Supevised Hours: Pre-licensure vs PostDoc

[DynamicDidactic]

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Hey all,

I currently live in a state with no postdoc hours requirement but I doubt I will be living here for an extended time period afterward. I wanted to know how different states categorize hours. I believe that CA emphasizes that the supervised hours must be pre-licensure (fine with me since I don't want to be there). I think many other states just require supervised hours post doctorate. So,

Does anyone know other states that may underscore the need for your supervised hours to be pre-licensure?

Anyone here receive supervised hours after licensure?

 

[473912]

Hey all,

I currently live in a state with no postdoc hours requirement but I doubt I will be living here for an extended time period afterward. I wanted to know how different states categorize hours. I believe that CA emphasizes that the supervised hours must be pre-licensure (fine with me since I don't want to be there). I think many other states just require supervised hours post doctorate. So,

Does anyone know other states that may underscore the need for your supervised hours to be pre-licensure?

Anyone here receive supervised hours after licensure?

I just happened to look this stuff up. I know Washington State requires 3000 hrs total, >1500 hrs on internship and the rest can be made up post doc. I think Texas is similar. I'm curious about this too.

Correction: Texas accepts proof of license in good standing from another state in lieu of proof of supervised hours. So... there is that.

 

[DynamicDidactic]

Just to be clear, WA does not require postdoc hours. It just requires at least 1500 from internship and the other 1500 from any other experience. APA internships are 2000 hours, so those students need 1000 supervised hours otherwise. People can get those 1500 in postdoc if needed.

Still looking for people that have had experience with post-licensure supervised hours and whether they had issues with portability.

 

[Loansforlife]

Hey all,

I currently live in a state with no postdoc hours requirement but I doubt I will be living here for an extended time period afterward. I wanted to know how different states categorize hours. I believe that CA emphasizes that the supervised hours must be pre-licensure (fine with me since I don't want to be there). I think many other states just require supervised hours post doctorate. So,

Does anyone know other states that may underscore the need for your supervised hours to be pre-licensure?

Anyone here receive supervised hours after licensure?

I actually had this situation as I moved to Washington to do post-doc but did all my schooling/internship in California. It was my understanding when I had researched it at the time that you needed post-doctoral hours pre-licensure as part of the requirement for many states (such as California). Apparently if I hadn't met post doc hours, I may never be able to move to a state that had that requirement (HSP registar, CPQ portability aside).

The hours required for "post-doc" states that require it for license I believe need to meet certain requirements, such as a structured program, so many hours per week of supervision, etc. Each state should have specific requirements for "Post-doctoral supervised experience".

Supervised experience post licensure was in my understanding something to undertake if learning a new skill, technique, becoming re-certified in a specialty etc.

 

[erg923]

I took an assistant prof position at a small Jesuit college after internship. I saw clients in the college counseling center prelicensure (but with a temp license) that year. I moved on to a clinical position the next year and continued to get supervision AFTER I took my states written and oral. I am now licensed in 3 states.

I know there are some states where I cant be licensed (until the 10 year mark or something) but those states suck anyway...

 

[DynamicDidactic]

I had researched it at the time that you needed post-doctoral hours pre-licensure as part of the requirement for many states (such as California)

is it many? For example, if I look over NYS I do not see anywhere a stipulation that states "pre-licensure." However, each state's regulations are cumbersome to simply verify. Looking for other folks' experience.

 

[Loansforlife]

is it many? For example, if I look over NYS I do not see anywhere a stipulation that states "pre-licensure." However, each state's regulations are cumbersome to simply verify. Looking for other folks' experience.

I like this link myself for getting an idea which states require post doc hours http://www.asppb.org/HandbookPublic/Reports/default.aspx?ReportType=SupervisedExperience

Then I would select 3-4 most likely places you would want to live and check their application for licensure to determine specifics of the post-doc. Even if someone here has actual experience counting licensed "post doc hours" I would still verify on the states website.

 

[PhDToBe]

I took an assistant prof position at a small Jesuit college after internship. I saw clients in the college counseling center prelicensure (but with a temp license) that year. I moved on to a clinical position the next year and continued to get supervision AFTER I took my states written and oral. I am now licensed in 3 states.

I know there are some states where I cant be licensed (until the 10 year mark or something) but those states suck anyway...

Which states don't allow supervised clinical hours to count as a post-doc?