Suspended from ivy league school for 2.5 years due to alcohol. comeback story chances?

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Sunflowersunrise said:
I’m going to be one eventually even if I have to go Caribbean. People make mistakes. It was my first dui btw and the history of substance abuse is documented medically not criminally.
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Sunflowersunrise said:
Well based on the replies here it will likely be 29 or possibly even never
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I’m still giving you the benefit of the doubt because I see you’re in a lot of pain right now. I believe that otherwise good people can make terrible choices, and I also believe people can change. You can change too, but you and I both know that doesn’t happen overnight.

If you truly want to be a doctor, then you will hear us when we say the *only* way for that to *ever* be a possibility for you is to focus on your sobriety and becoming a totally different person than the senior who got a DUI on the eve of his/her medical school matriculation.

That might take 2.5 years. It might take 10. If you want it badly enough, you’ll make your peace with that. That’s the price you have to pay for your mistake.
 
Well someday you will **** up and will hope your judge doesn’t have the same attitude
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
But it literally is a crime of negligence by definition. Nobody who drives under the influence says “I’m going to hurt somebody.” While people who cheat say “I will undermine my school and classmates to benefit myself”
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More like - “I could hurt people or even kill people driving under the influence but I’m just going to do it anyway.”
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
Well someday you will **** up and will hope your judge doesn’t have the same attitude
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No, most people don't drink and drive, putting many other lives at risk and then show no remorse aside from how it affects their medical school admission. The majority of people don't "**** up" and end up in front of a judge during their lifetime.

Why does SDN give people like this advice? Don't give them the tools to talk their way through an interview if they can't find remorse and responsibility for their own actions themselves.
 
I'm pretty sure this guy's a troll... literally everything he says is something that's quite obviously entitled and designed to get a rise out of people.

Mention Caribbean, "what if I get high STEP score", "DUI not a big deal", downplay DO/Pod/Dental, explicit entitled attitude, etc. screams troll to me.

6/10 for effort.
 
Everybody makes a mistake at some point in their life. Maybe it’s not a dui or a
Literal judge
 
crocsandsocks said:
Why does SDN give people like this advice? Don't give them the tools to talk their way through an interview if they can't find remorse and responsibility for their own actions themselves.
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As if OP is ever going to get an II from a US medical school. The moment a review committee sees "DUI conviction," the nearest trash bin suddenly becomes just a bit fuller.
 
As I said before I will send the mods my suspension letter and acceptance letters to prove I’m not trolling
 
DoctoOcto said:
I'm pretty sure this guy's a troll... literally everything he says is something that's quite obviously entitled and designed to get a rise out of people.

Mention Caribbean, "what if I get high STEP score", downplay DO/Pod/Dental, explicit entitled attitude, etc. screams troll to me.

6/10 for effort.
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People who do bad things sometimes go into denial downplaying what they did. And they will get defensive when people try to tell them the magnitude of they did wrong and the consequences. I don’t think it’s troll.
 
I never said it wasn’t bad but I don’t think I shouldn’t get another chance
 
crocsandsocks said:
Why does SDN give people like this advice? Don't give them the tools to talk their way through an interview if they can't find remorse and responsibility for their own actions themselves.
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To be honest, I like seeing members make good faith attempts to help posters, even when the OP is trolling or being obstinate. I like to think that the advice in this thread could help some future premed who also made a terrible mistake and is looking for advice and answers. I lurked on SDN for many years before I made an account, and reading through all the threads specific to my problems and situations helped me immensely.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
How is it warranted a few years of punishment. In my opinion cheating on an exam or plagiarism is much worse than a DUI. One is a crime of blatant malfeasance whereas the other is a crime of negligence
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Not one to typically post on this forum, but your thread caught my attention. The carelessness with which you talk about your DUI is concerning. And the fact that you would compare it to cheating is, quite frankly, very childish. Deciding to get behind a wheel drunk is a decision and an amazingly poor one at that. While you say you did not have the "intention" of hurting anyone, you chose to drive drunk knowing that your coordination was impaired, and thus, knowing that you could injure someone. If the fact that you made a decision that could have hurt someone is not your biggest concern, that is very telling. Additionally, your seeming concern only for yourself is not an admirable trait for a doctor.

As a physician, you will most likely make mistakes. When one of those mistakes influences your patient, what will you do? Whine about how you didn't "intend" harm? Transfer to another hospital that doesn't chew you out? Self-growth and reflection are important as an aspiring physician, and your lack of remorse and the callousness with which you speak about your actions makes it seem as though you do not see anything wrong with your actions.

As someone who had a friend who was hit by a drunk driver-- and may I add, so hard that her engine ended up in her front seat-- I have seen the first hand effects of drunk driving. She needed 20+ surgeries to go back to normal life. Your posts on this thread are very off-putting and disheartening. I would not want my future doctor talking about endangering others so carelessly. I hope you take the time, after your disappointment passes, to reflect on your actions, take responsibility for them, and grow as a person. Focus on yourself, as opposed to your medical school app process.
 
If you want another chance then you need to sort yourself out with your substance abuse issues before you apply again and listen to what others have said. Medical school is very stressful at times and would only feed substance abuse issues if you don't have them completely under control. And the consequences only become more severe the further you get into medicine.
 
JanetSnakehole said:
To be honest, I like seeing members make good faith attempts to help posters, even when the OP is trolling or being obstinate. I like to think that the advice in this thread could help some future premed who also made a terrible mistake and is looking for advice and answers. I lurked on SDN for many years before I made an account, and reading through all the threads specific to my problems and situations helped me immensely.
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While I absolutely get that and have also found good advice this way, if OP isn't a troll they need to sort themselves out. As someone else said I wouldn't want this person treating me in the next couple years and it concerns me that they could sneak through admissions. There are certainly 2-3 in my class with personalities and traits such that I can't understand how they got through the interview. People also did give OP genuinely good advice regarding focusing on his substance abuse first and he didn't want to hear it.
 
I didn’t hit your friend or anybody else. So every time you speed or drive recklessly should med schools take away your acceptance? It was wrong but I blew a .09. I passed the sobriety test but was still charged. I wasn’t blackout drunk driving like a mad man. In fact I was only pulled over because my dad forgot to get the car inspection renewed
 
I had seen DUI comeback stories on SDN. A few important things they demonstrated before being accepted:

Transparency
Humility
Respect
Responsibility
Regret and Remorse
Patience

All of the successful applicants who have gone on to MD/DO completely reevaluated their life and went on to do things to demonstrate that they are completely changed as a person.

To OP, this means you need to communicate. You need to heal yourself. You need to take time. You need to do activities that will show you are a completely changed person. You have 2.5 years to kill now. Volunteer, Peace Corps, Community Service. You will probably also have to retake the MCAT.

Right now the attitude you are showing us is not conducive to these steps. It can be done, but the people replying to this thread are doubtful based on what they have seen. If you are truly serious about MD/DO then you will take the advice of those on this thread and work to fix your life. These will take time. Even if it is expunged, you will still have to report it. A few years will not hurt you. Start by taking the steps for correction and go from there.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
Thanks for meaningful advice rather than meaningless attacks @electropartyogram. I will do all that and aim for 523+
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I think @Goro would say that retaking a 520 is worse than a DUI.

Edit: ohh but that’s right, we’re talking several years from now. Your current MCAT will be expired. I’m being dense.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
@SeaHusky is the worst type of premed. Likely a state school grad who scraped by with a 3.6 and a 510. After an acceptance to Tulane, GW, geisinger tier school they tear down anonymous people to feel better about themselves
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What’s wrong with state schools? Plenty of people go to “top tier” medical schools from state schools.

Yes, I know you’re just trying to bait someone into being like “Well at least SeaHusky has 3 acceptances and you don’t lol” so you can keep fighting with people.
 
I didn’t want to fight at all but the initial comment came out of nowhere and was out of line imo
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
@SeaHusky is the worst type of premed. Likely a state school grad who scraped by with a 3.6 and a 510. After an acceptance to Tulane, GW, geisinger tier school they tear down anonymous people to feel better about themselves because they are no longer surrounded by near high school dropouts. At interviews, he/she likely made sure to talk very loudly and frequently despite it being mainly nonsense. In med school they will struggle immensely, constantly posting on forums about “muh imposter syndrome” and “muh #medschoollyfe.” They will match peds and live and unremarkable life, get a divorce after 10 years of marriage, and be hated by his/her own children due to never spending tome with them.
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Hey, I think you forgot to change your SDN status there bud, underneath your location.
 
I think you need to realize that no matter how much more complain, your situation isn't going to get any better. Step away from the screen and when you have a clear mind, come back and read all the advice everyone's been giving you.

A DUI is a big deal. You need to get your substance abuse under control. Med schools want to accept people who will be able to practice medicine. Medical boards suspend licenses for alcohol abuse, alcohol-related arrests, DUI, etc. It's not something that's taken lightly. No medical school is going to want to take you with this big red flag.

You got yourself in this hole, and you can dig your way out. If medicine is really the only thing you see yourself doing, then it will take time to reinvent yourself. You will need to prove that you've matured and realized the severity of your actions. But take this time to realize the severity of your actions and accept the consequences.
 
Most of my class is in their mid-late 20's. Don't worry about your age; worry about getting better.

Have you lost the acceptances yet? To get a 2.5 year suspension sounds pretty serious, but maybe you can try to transfer to a state school and still graduate.
 
@StanleyYelnats
I see a psychologist And a psychiatrist Weekly. Go to two or three aa meetings per week. Am starting to volunteer at an end overdose campaign in two weeks. Will become a sponsor in january
 
I feel like I can speak from personal experience on this. I had a DUI towards the end of undergrad and am a few years out now and have had success this application cycle. That being said, it was an incredibly humbling experience. It definitely derailed my plans and I stepped away from anything related to medical school and worked my ass off to dig myself out of that hole. Alcohol in any capacity (buzzed or drunk) + driving is never worth It and is a highly serious offense.
You have to realize that you are NOT a victim. I initially felt like my future was stripped away from me unfairly, but once I came to terms with the fact that the DUI was MY fault I was liberated in a sense and free to work to correct it, as I have done with any other mistake I’ve made throughout my life. It came up in an interview at one of my top choice med schools and I explained how I accepted full responsibility for it and was truly humbled by it and that same school accepted me.
You can bounce back from it, but it requires a lot of effort and the right mindset. It will also come up when attempting to get your license and during residency interviews and is with you for life.... you have to accept responsibility, humble yourself, and grind harder than ever before to work past it.
 
This just occurred to me, is it standard to get suspended from a university for 2.5 years for a DUI? Did you hit a campus safety vehicle or something?

My undergraduate university took no action against the guy with the cocaine possession conviction I referenced earlier in the thread because the arrest happened off campus.

Is this your first run in with your university’s disciplinary body?
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
@StanleyYelnats
I see a psychologist And a psychiatrist Weekly. Go to two or three aa meetings per week. Am starting to volunteer at an end overdose campaign in two weeks. Will become a sponsor in january
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Have you been doing all of this since before your DUI? You have officially hit rock bottom and you need to figure out what you need to do to fix this. You can't become a sponsor for AA if you are still drinking.
 
@SeaHusky is the worst type of premed. Likely a state school grad who scraped by with a 3.6 and a 510. After an acceptance to Tulane, GW, geisinger tier school they tear down anonymous people to feel better about themselves because they are no longer surrounded by near high school dropouts. At interviews, he/she likely made sure to talk very loudly and frequently despite it being mainly nonsense. In med school they will struggle immensely, constantly posting on forums about “muh imposter syndrome” and “muh #medschoollyfe.” They will match peds and live and unremarkable life, get a divorce after 10 years of marriage, and be hated by his/her own children due to never spending tome with them.
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damn, SDN pasta is just as fresh as reddit now

still needs some more salt for my taste, tbh
 
I’m 3 months sober at this point and will try to become one at 6 months.

no but the committee took into account the fact that I had been to a detox before

had 8 months before the incident
 
JanetSnakehole said:
This just occurred to me, is it standard to get suspended from a university for 2.5 years for a DUI? Did you hit a campus safety vehicle or something?

My undergraduate university took no action against the guy with the cocaine possession conviction I referenced earlier in the thread because the arrest happened off campus.

Is this your first run in with your university’s disciplinary body?
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He ran over the President of the University
 
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