Suspended from ivy league school for 2.5 years due to alcohol. comeback story chances?

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My arrest was also off campus. I guess my school is strict. I read about a Stanford football player who got a dui and only had to miss 1 game as punishment
 
Lets be civilized folks. OP has enough problem already. First of all, you made a terrible mistake, you need to accept your responsibility and that your chance to get accepted to medical school is zero for now. Dont think about applying till you are more responsible for your drinking habit. I am glad that you didnt kill anyone while driving under influence, as it could have been much worse.
Having said that, I do believe in second chance, and it is earned and not entitled to. After 2.5 years and you get your undergrad degree, and if you have been responsible with your actions during that time, you can retake MCAT and apply again. Do not apply to schools outside of US for now as your path will become much harder, and you may not be able to get a license to practice.
You are still young, I will be 33 when I matriculate next year. I am sure that your are very smart and capable, as reflected in your MCAT and GPA. Be patient, and be thankful that you did not kill anyone. Learn from your mistake, and in 3 years, come back let us know how you have matured since then. I rather your recognize your problem now. than later when you already already practicing medicine. Alcohol problem will have your license either suspended or provoked. And trust me, I have been a nurse for 10 years, I have seen it all, and it is always sad to see a brilliant resident or attending physician go down that way.
“What does not kill you, will only make you stronger.”
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
I’m 3 months sober at this point and will try to become one at 6 months.

no but the committee took into account the fact that I had been to a detox before

had 8 months before the incident
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That puts the length of the suspension in some context, then.

Congratulations on your sobriety. Truly. You should be really proud of that accomplishment.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
Possible I’ll be a doctor idk
I can’t afford 4 sessions per week
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I would not guide your therapy based on what a bunch of premeds say. You're seeing a psychiatrist and that's all that matters.

This has probably come as a shock and you're freaking out. Take some time to cool off. This thread isn't doing you any favors. But you've seen people who put in the work and held themselves accountable bounce back.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
For people who are all going to be doctors it seems like nobody understands how powerful the disease of addiction can be. Sad
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But that doesn’t mean you can downplay the effects of that addiction on others? You’re describing a DUI as if it were a careless mistake, and not a conscious decision that has the potential to seriously hurt people. For someone who wants to be a doctor, you don’t seem to care very much for the principle of doing no harm. If you expressed remorse, this thread would be very different.
 
I would file an ADA suit against the school because they really shouldn’t factor medical treatment into disciplinary matters but I’m not going to take on an Ivy League legal team and lose 150k in lawyer bikls
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
@Goro agrees that cheating is worse than a dui so clearly I’m not the only one
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But you were suspended for 2.5 years for it. I have never heard of anyone being suspended for 2.5 years for anything. So there just has to be more to the story than you are sharing.
 
Since I had taken a previous medical withdrawal for detox and rehab they thought 2.5 years was necessary to make sure it doesn’t happen again when I come back
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
For people who are all going to be doctors it seems like nobody understands how powerful the disease of addiction can be. Sad
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We don't discount the power of addiction at all. I have personally struggled with addiction. The problem is not your addiction, it is how you are dealing with it. What are you going to change? Your 3 months of sobriety is great, but the reason we say apply in 2.5 years is because of the seriousness of addiction. It takes time to overcome. It doesn't happen overnight.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
For people who are all going to be doctors it seems like nobody understands how powerful the disease of addiction can be. Sad. With the exception of @Ultimax
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All of us recognize how terrible addiction is. That's why the first few posts on this thread were supportive and offered you advice about how to get your life back on track, which is what should be important to you right now. It was only after you showed your arrogance, entitlement and unwillingness to take responsibility for your actions that people changed their tune. Yet through it all, people have continued to offer you advice and encouragement and shown you the path you must take. Instead you've continued to show your entitlement and inability to recognize the seriousness of your actions. You have a lot of growing up to do, and I wish you all the best in finding a happy life free from addiction, but that path MUST start with you reflecting on what you've done wrong, accepting that the future is out of your hands unless your solve these problems now, and making a conscious effort to change for the better WITHOUT it being for the goal of one day getting into medical school. I hope you can change, I know it's possible because I've seen it. Good luck.
 
Orangekiwi said:
All of us recognize how terrible addiction is. That's why the first few posts on this thread were supportive and offered you advice about how to get your life back on track, which is what should be important to you right now. It was only after you showed your arrogance, entitlement and unwillingness to take responsibility for your actions that people changed their tune. Yet through it all, people have continued to offer you advice and encouragement and shown you the path you must take. Instead you've continued to show your entitlement and inability to recognize the seriousness of your actions. You have a lot of growing up to do, and I wish you all the best in finding a happy life free from addiction, but that path MUST start with you reflecting on what you've done wrong, accepting that the future is out of your hands unless your solve these problems now, and making a conscious effort to change for the better WITHOUT it being for the goal of one day getting into medical school. I hope you can change, I know it's possible because I've seen it. Good luck.
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Not to mention bashing and tearing down another member
 
Not one that gets bumped to a violation after a year. You don’t have to report it then because violations are not crimes. The initial conviction is dropped from a misdemeanor to a violation so your only conviction is a violation
 
I find it very hard to believe that a 3.94/520+ wouldn’t get a single II if applied to 75 schools
 
OP, get off SDN, r/premed, etc. and focus on your life. There is too much going on there for any of us to advise you on. Do what your therapist says, maybe start journaling; might help you reflect on your actions and the potential consequences it could have on others. edit: and become grateful you didn't kill or maime anyone or yourself with your mistakes. You wouldn't be sitting here typing to us if one of those were the case.
 
Orangekiwi said:
All of us recognize how terrible addiction is. That's why the first few posts on this thread were supportive and offered you advice about how to get your life back on track, which is what should be important to you right now. It was only after you showed your arrogance, entitlement and unwillingness to take responsibility for your actions that people changed their tune. Yet through it all, people have continued to offer you advice and encouragement and shown you the path you must take. Instead you've continued to show your entitlement and inability to recognize the seriousness of your actions. You have a lot of growing up to do, and I wish you all the best in finding a happy life free from addiction, but that path MUST start with you reflecting on what you've done wrong, accepting that the future is out of your hands unless your solve these problems now, and making a conscious effort to change for the better WITHOUT it being for the goal of one day getting into medical school. I hope you can change, I know it's possible because I've seen it. Good luck.
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OP, listen to this advice. Stop insulting people. Work on yourself. Listen to the genuine advice, and start moving on with your life. You are not in any position to crap on other people here and it just makes you come off as incredibly entitled.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
I find it very hard to believe that a 3.94/520+ wouldn’t get a single II if applied to 75 schools
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Why would any school take a 3.94/520+ with a history of substance abuse and a recent DUI arrest when they have hundreds of applicants with similar stats and without future licensing issues?

If you can answer this question, then go ahead and apply.
 
So every school has hundreds of people with 3.9+ 520+. It is my understanding that only like 450 get above a 520
 
Red flags on his medical school application:
  • Getting kicked out of his dorm (first semester of college)
  • Alcohol issues
  • Vandalism
  • Bar fights
  • Getting a DUI
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
Red flags on his medical school application:
  • Getting kicked out of his dorm (first semester of college)
  • Alcohol issues
  • Vandalism
  • Bar fights
  • Getting a DUI
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Some pieces of advice for premed students:
Own your mistakes. If you’re dealing with med school red flags of your own, communicate that you’re very much responsible for what you’ve done, but be able to demonstrate how you’ve changed.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
So every school has hundreds of people with 3.9+ 520+. It is my understanding that only like 450 get above a 520
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The issue that other posters are pointing out is that it isn't just your grades and MCAT. Medical schools have to think down the line and if you have a history of substance abuse and now a DUI they will need evidence that you will remain clean and will be able to obtain a medical license after graduating. Why accept someone that could get into trouble again and not even be able to practice medicine? That's a wasted seat.

The 2.5 year suspension is time to reflect and work on that evidence that you have overcome this and could be successful if admitted.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
medicalschoolhq.net

Overcoming a DUI on His Way to Med School

Ryan now has an acceptance to medical school, but as a premed, that wasn't always a sure thing. With several alcohol related incidents, he needed to change!
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Doesn’t make me “special” but the above statement that hundreds of other applicants ha e the same stats is inaccurate
 
The fact that you’re solely thinking about your career plans right now says a lot about you. You betrayed the trust of your community, you put innocent lives at risk, and you brought shame to those who care about you. And yet here you are, on a pre-med WAMC thread asking about how much longer you have to wait before you can become a doctor, as if your current situation is just a minor inconvenience.
 
Sunflowersunrise said:
medicalschoolhq.net

Overcoming a DUI on His Way to Med School

Ryan now has an acceptance to medical school, but as a premed, that wasn't always a sure thing. With several alcohol related incidents, he needed to change!
medicalschoolhq.net medicalschoolhq.net
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Did you pick up on the fact that he was nontrad when he applied and several years had passed between his infractions and applications? He also found religion in the interim, apparently.

Also, military.
 
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