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[mc2004]

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would i be able to take the mcat by just completing first year chem and bio, and an advanced grade 12 course in physics? i would not be taking organic chemistry. i would also be taking a half course in physiology. but that is it. i am also planning on also using the entire examkrackers collection and taking a princeton review course or kaplan review course. do you think i would be able to get over 32 by doing this? i believe i have sufficient experience/knowledge to do well on the written and verbal sections. 😕

 

[medic170]

but if i read an ochem textbook and examkrackers, then took the course, you wouldn't be teaching me anything for the first time. i can learn it by myself.

If your so ****in smart and sure of yourself, why are you even asking for the opinions of idiots like us?

 

[MoosePilot]

If your so ****in smart and sure of yourself, why are you even asking for the opinions of idiots like us?

Because he's a troll. Never posted in any other thread.

Why didn't I take the MCAT in grade school? I could have learned high school from SAT prep classes and then read EK and maybe taken a TPR class, aced the MCAT, and been good to go. I've heard there's a med school in Botswana that doesn't have any pre-reqs, including High School 😀

 

[mc2004]

If your so ****in smart and sure of yourself, why are you even asking for the opinions of idiots like us?

i already told everyone my mind was made up, but you all keep posting your opinions, so i feel the need to respond to them. and i never said any of you were idiots. 😉

 

[DualSuperLead]

Why are you people still talking to this guy?

 

[45408]

You won't be able to learn the organic, and you're foolish to say it's not important.

 

[mc2004]

then so be it. my mind is already made up. it's as if you all have a personal vendetta against me. it's as if you want me to score low on the mcat. because if i score high with less effort than you all put in, it would seem upsetting.

 

[txguy]

when i was in grade 11 and 12, i had this really bad teacher that convinced me i was bad in chemistry 🙁 ever since, i have been afraid to take chemistry courses. he always said that i would do awful in ochem if i ever took it. 🙁

Well, if it helps, Organic Chemistry is not like your typical chemistry course. Yes, it requires some general chemistry knowledge, but the class itself is totally different. There are NO calculations or equations in Ochem!!

The class honestly isnt that bad--its not rocket science. You just gotta consistently work hard, because the concepts you learn are cumulative. If you are a visual person, like me, you will do great! I was a little scared when I took the class too, because everyone says its "so hard". Just bust your butt and get ready to learn some reactions! 👍

-tx

 

[adamj61]

then so be it. my mind is already made up. it's as if you all have a personal vendetta against me. it's as if you want me to score low on the mcat. because if i score high with less effort than you all put in, it would seem upsetting.

This is hilarious. That is true...it all depends on what form this kid gets. And if he does well, that kind of pisses us off.

I had a genetics professor make a very good arguement why the mcat is an IQ test. There is a reason some people can't will a 30...no matter how hard they worked.

And with a 170 on the LSAT and those logic games, I wouldn't put a decent mcat score past him. I would rather have an intelligent doc, then someone who was good at o-chem, that is why the Canadian schools probably don't require it. Yet, they are big on the writing section, I would be screwed with my L.

 

[!dr_nick!]

Why, what did I do, I just gave my opinion?

As for your NO, i did it. No organic chem. Only a year of gen chem and gen zoo. That was it. Pulled a 32.
All self study. And i must say i had an easy time in org chem the next year because of it.

You know why i could do it? Because I didnt believe everyone who said it couldnt be done.

 

[MoosePilot]

then so be it. my mind is already made up. it's as if you all have a personal vendetta against me. it's as if you want me to score low on the mcat. because if i score high with less effort than you all put in, it would seem upsetting.

I don't care if you get a higher score with less work, I mainly think you're a punk because you ask a question you've already decided the answer to.

You were going to take a diag and post your result. How's that coming?

 

[mc2004]

i'm not trying to be a punk. i just wanted to know peoples opinions about not taking ochem for the mcat. even now, i'm not 100% decided, but i'm leaning towards not taking ochem for the mcat. 😎

 

[VFrank]

i'm not trying to be a punk. i just wanted to know peoples opinions about not taking ochem for the mcat. even now, i'm not 100% decided, but i'm leaning towards not taking ochem for the mcat. 😎

If you really are being serious about your post, doesn't it worry you that maybe half the people responding think you're a troll. Do you know why they all think that? Because your idea about not taking Orgo before the MCAT is RIDICULOUS! Orgo is not biology -- it's not something you can simply memorize. The point of taking an organic chemistry class is to develop a kind of chemical intuition which you simply can't get without the experience and practice offered by a class. I think you're putting yourself at a serious disadvantage by not taking a class.

it's as if you all have a personal vendetta against me. it's as if you want me to score low on the mcat. because if i score high with less effort than you all put in, it would seem upsetting.

And I don't think the people here are "mad" because they are worried you will do better without studying. It's just sometimes frustrating to try to communicate someone so stubborn and stupid he couldn't understand good advice if his life depended on it.

when i was in grade 11 and 12, i had this really bad teacher that convinced me i was bad in chemistry ever since, i have been afraid to take chemistry courses. he always said that i would do awful in ochem if i ever took it.

By the way, my high school chemistry teacher was fired three months into the school year, but they asked her to stay on because they couldn't find anyone else. We learned absolutely NOTHING the entire year (for our midterms, we made stuffed moles and for our final, we did tie-dye). People have bad teachers, that's just something you have to get over.

 

[MoosePilot]

VFrank 👍

 

[medic170]

i'm not trying to be a punk. i just wanted to know peoples opinions about not taking ochem for the mcat. even now, i'm not 100% decided, but i'm leaning towards not taking ochem for the mcat. 😎

You told us about 10 posts ago that you WERE decided, now you just said you were not. You are a troll.

i already told everyone my mind was made up, but you all keep posting your opinions, so i feel the need to respond to them.

You also said you were going to do a diag and post the results. maybe you did and thats why your not 100% decided now. We are still waiting to see how you did...

ok, i will take it tomorrow or wednesday and let you all know how i do. so, what is the url for this website?

Of course, I am just jealous because you can do better than me without studying and I worked hard. I am vindictive because I did not have enough brain power to cut corners and because you know more than us about the MCAT, even though we have taken it and you have not . 🙄

 

[willthatsall]

This has long been a question of mine. Why does it seem like people are so much more impressed by natural ability than they are by hard work? It seems like it should be the other way around.

 

[MoosePilot]

This has long been a question of mine. Why does it seem like people are so much more impressed by natural ability than they are by hard work? It seems like it should be the other way around.

I think it's because there's the thought that "the natural" can always learn hard work, where "the hard worker" isn't likely to ever luck across 30 IQ points.

I do some European martial arts and one of my buddies teaches a class on how to handle "naturals" vs. how to handle "technique" fighters. Somebody always asks how to handle someone who is both. There isn't a good answer, because that describes most of your top people in any program.

 

[!dr_nick!]

You told us about 10 posts ago that you WERE decided, now you just said you were not. You are a troll.

You also said you were going to do a diag and post the results. maybe you did and thats why your not 100% decided now. We are still waiting to see how you did...

LOL, if he's a troll, i doubt he'd post REAL results. I can see it now, "well my diagnostic said i made a 46Z".

 

[mc2004]

ok, i said i would take the test today or tomorrow.. it's not wednesday yet. and i tried to take it today, but i was unable to sign up. there is some sort of problem. i will keep trying though. and i am no troll. 🙁

 

[slackerjock]

bump. this troll amuses me.

 

[medic170]

ok, i said i would take the test today or tomorrow.. it's not wednesday yet. and i tried to take it today, but i was unable to sign up. there is some sort of problem. i will keep trying though. and i am no troll. 🙁

It is Wednesday night troll, did you take the test?

 

[Mossjoh]

DO NOT TAKE THE MCAT UNPREPARED! O-Chem is half the biology section! Organic chemistry is essential to pass the MCAT..if not even adding on a basic understanding of biochemistry.

Take some college level courses..I recommend the following

General biology
Microbiology
Anatomy (Comparative anatomy...the MCAT has questions about amphibian/reptile anatomy on it ect)
Human Physiology
Genetics
General Chem (2 semesters a must)
Organic Chemistry (2 semesters)
Possibly biochemistry (not totally essential, much is covered in other courses, glycolysis, TCA cycle, electron transport ect)

A student at my undergrad..against my advice decided to rush into this test also and try to get it done quickly...only to not do so well on the exam. To my knowledge, she has not gotten into medical school. Do yourself and your future patients a favor, go slow, learn the subjects above, and prepare.

If not....you will be in trouble

Mossjoh

 

[slackerjock]

It is Wednesday night troll, did you take the test?

troll must be busy with hydrocarbons rite now...

 

[mc2004]

ok. here is the truth: i was able to sign-up. and i started taking the biological sciences part of the test. however, i didn't complete the test. but i did look over the whole test, and while there were some ochem questions, the majority were part of passages. and i was easily able to find the answers in the passages themselves. but the independent questions were more difficult, and i couldn't figure out the answer. but there weren't many of these questions anyway. so i figure i could get a 10-11 on the biological sciences section without taking ochem.

 

[liverotcod]

It's kind of meaningless to take *part* of the section and then look over the rest. In order to get a meaningful result, you need to take the whole thing under timed conditions. But unfortunately, you have now ruined your opportunity to use a free resource to accurately check where you stand right now (on organic chemistry as well as biology).

 

[ken37]

ok. here is the truth: i was able to sign-up. and i started taking the biological sciences part of the test. however, i didn't complete the test. but i did look over the whole test, and while there were some ochem questions, the majority were part of passages. and i was easily able to find the answers in the passages themselves. but the independent questions were more difficult, and i couldn't figure out the answer. but there weren't many of these questions anyway. so i figure i could get a 10-11 on the biological sciences section without taking ochem.

Wow, same thing here! I read the instructions and a few sample items for the MCAT and figured I could at least get a 40 or so, so I've just written to the AAMC to ask that they reflect a score of 40T for me. I've also read some admissions literature for several schools, and figure that my 40T should get me into Harvard, so I've also got a letter into them explaining the situation and asking for my acceptance letter posthaste.

🙄 🙄

 

[MoosePilot]

😴

Not worth replying to, except that it's vaguely amusing. Get a score and then talk.