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BigNavyPedsGuy

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OK, I just spent 5 minutes reading another rant about how terrible everything is. I was terrified to go on active duty after reading this site. Then I did my ATs and found that the situation wasn't so bleak at all.

But since I start my internsihp in T minus 6 months I'm asking for someone out there to give me the glass-is-half-full argument. Forget it, lie to me, just tell me something other than the your-career-will-suck rhetoric that fills this site.

What is good about military medicine? And please don't turn this into a rant: there are already plenty of those.
 
Your co-workers will likely be great to work with. I have enjoyed working with all my peers (some more that others). The worker bees are generally good folk.

Convenience. Yesterday I sent a patient down for a sonogram and a plain film. Didn't like the sonogram findings and got a CT scan, all three done 100 yards from my office and all done in about 2 hours. Images immediately available online for immediate review.

Great patients. Treat them right, be respectful of their time, give them a smile. They will love you.
 
OK, I just spent 5 minutes reading another rant about how terrible everything is. I was terrified to go on active duty after reading this site. Then I did my ATs and found that the situation wasn't so bleak at all.

But since I start my internsihp in T minus 6 months I'm asking for someone out there to give me the glass-is-half-full argument. Forget it, lie to me, just tell me something other than the your-career-will-suck rhetoric that fills this site.

What is good about military medicine? And please don't turn this into a rant: there are already plenty of those.

Good people to work with, for the most part.

Excellent patient population. Healthy active duty, mostly healthy dependents, retirees who are a privilege to serve. Four or five times per month I get to take care of someone who walked ashore on D-Day, or was outside Pearl Harbor on a cruiser on Dec 7th 1941, or did three tours in Vietnam, or did something else I'd otherwise only see on the History Channel. Everyone has insurance.

Double the pay, compared to civilian interns and residents. (Granted, most of us will make a lot less post-residency.)

Unique opportunities to go places and do things other doctors can't. A GMO tour, while a senseless waste of the military's money and our education, has the potential to be very rewarding ... if you luck into the right command, and if you approach it with the right attitude.

I'm happy. I'll also be the first to admit I'm still cozy in the tender womb of residency, as MedicalCorpse puts it, and lack experience and perspective.
 
What is good about military medicine? And please don't turn this into a rant: there are already plenty of those.

You will have the opportunity to care for some of the best patients in the world. Despite all the obstacles thrown in your path by microcephalic *****s with coruscating birds and stars on their shoulders, at the end of the day, you will have cared for at least one hero/heroine per week. And when you look back at what could have been your military career in an alternate reality, you will realize that your courageous choice to speak up to improve their care, at the cost of your career, was worth it all.

Peace out, and Happy BOOM New Year,

--
Rob
 
I'm happy. I'll also be the first to admit I'm still cozy in the tender womb of residency, as MedicalCorpse puts it, and lack experience and perspective.

Dude,

Thanks for that.

Happy New Year,

--
Rob
 
OK, I just spent 5 minutes reading another rant about how terrible everything is. I was terrified to go on active duty after reading this site. Then I did my ATs and found that the situation wasn't so bleak at all.

But since I start my internsihp in T minus 6 months I'm asking for someone out there to give me the glass-is-half-full argument. Forget it, lie to me, just tell me something other than the your-career-will-suck rhetoric that fills this site.

What is good about military medicine? And please don't turn this into a rant: there are already plenty of those.


I had an urge to just post a blank reply, because the good is sometimes very hard to see, but in the spirit of telling the recruiters half truths...

Not really caring how much the million dollar workup costs because its you and the patient against the system, is kind of nice.

being able to tell your patient that the $3000 worth of medicine that they are going to waltz down to pharmacy (and wait in long line) to pick up is not going to cost them a dime is nice.

Being able to refer patients relatively easily because your a GMO and don't have much training is kind of nice.

The pay is not bad.

Port calls when your a GMO are a lot of fun.

You will also have some life stories to tell that you can't get anywhere else in the world. Of course you have to survive the initial event to be able to tell the story...

There are some great commands to go to as a GMO, I haven't been to any good ones, but I keep hearing about them, so they must exist 🙄

Find a mentor early on that seems to do well in the system, and get them to teach you how to manipulate the system. You will never change the system, so the best you can do is get some guidance on how to make it work for you.
Chiefs are great for this.

i want out
 
You will have the opportunity to care for some of the best patients in the world

That's God's honest truth right there, boys.

I've had the honor of taking care of some serious heroes... and I don't use that word lightly. I've met POWs who still suffer from black lung from forced labor in japanese coal mines. I've taken care of Korean-war-era Marines wearing every decoration imaginable. I've taken care of vietnam and OIF vets. These guys are the salt of the earth... and nothing if not humble. They never brag, and they'll NEVER tell you about it unless you ask. Most times they never mentioned it at all... in the case of one Korea-era Gunny, I only found out from his buddies gathered around the waiting room in wheelchairs, all waiting to hear if "Gunny" was going to be OK, and all wearing their own numerous decorations.

On the flip side, you may also run into a minority of patients (Disclaimer: I've yet to meet a decorated vet like this) who have an obnoxious mentality of entitlement and a RHIP attitude. These are the types that will file complaints all over your chain of command to try to get you to do something they want (often something medically inappropriate). These types can be a real pain-in-the-neck.

Other than those few, best patient population in the world.
 
Sorry for interupting the thread ( i started out looking for the same info as I decide to go into HPSP but...

If you had so amny problems with military medicine and the nurses commanding you etc, why did yiu stay in for so many years, i thought that would be beyond your original MSO agreement
 
Sorry for interupting the thread ( i started out looking for the same info as I decide to go into HPSP but...

If you had so amny problems with military medicine and the nurses commanding you etc, why did yiu stay in for so many years, i thought that would be beyond your original MSO agreement


i should give you as good rap on the knuckles for trying to derail this thread. this thread is a rare breed around here, lol. besides, MC has a lot of posts-- or you can PM him.

--your friendly neighborhood hijack preventing caveman
 
i should give you as good rap on the knuckles for trying to derail this thread. this thread is a rare breed around here, lol. besides, MC has a lot of posts-- or you can PM him.

--your friendly neighborhood hijack preventing caveman

Get him Homunculus! I think I saw this guy post in another thread stating that being a SDN administrator was so easy, a caveman could do it. F-ng unoriginal bastard! 😉 😛
 
OK, I just spent 5 minutes reading another rant about how terrible everything is. I was terrified to go on active duty after reading this site. Then I did my ATs and found that the situation wasn't so bleak at all.

But since I start my internsihp in T minus 6 months I'm asking for someone out there to give me the glass-is-half-full argument. Forget it, lie to me, just tell me something other than the your-career-will-suck rhetoric that fills this site.

What is good about military medicine? And please don't turn this into a rant: there are already plenty of those.

1 - More free time than I know what to do with.
both good and bad
2 - I got to meet my kids for the first time since residency
3 - I can get groceries far cheaper than the local store and selection is nice
4 - I have a fairly decent book budget so I've collected a nice library for my clinic
5 - I get freebies to some sporting events, nothing professional, but some good college games on military appreciation days
6 - Sea World is free
7 - Some airports have nice military appreciation rooms with free food and drinks
8 - On occaision someone will tell me thanks for serving. I just tell them, thanks back but I'm really just serving the real heroes
9 - the patients are probably about the most compliant you'll find anywhere
10 - I get to teach residents
both good and bad because they're FP residents--some want to learn some couldn't care less about learning ENT stuff
11 - my NCOIC follows me from clinic to the OR and everywhere in between so he knows me, what I like, how I treat people, and most importantly knows everything that's happened to a patient from the time they first arrive in consultation
12 - cheaper golf, albeit on a cheaper course.
13 - sometimes, when I show up in uniform somewhere in town, people will let me forward in line simply because I'm AD. I don't take advantage of it (see 8 for why), but I think it's awesome that citizens in this area respect those who serve the way they do
14 - Oh, did I mention how much time I have free to do stuff? Like this post. On your tax dollars.
14b) if there is so much as a note on the calendar, it's a day off. Honestly, I think the only thing on my calendar that I didn't get off was Boxing Day in Canada. Oh wait, yes I did, it was just considered closed.
15 - I can take a permissive TDY to go to a conference if I don't want to take leave or they won't pay for it ( a frequent occurrence)
16 - As long as I respond to e-mails, do my CBT, show up to meetings at least long enough to sign-in, and don't volunteer for anything, it's always the other guy that's getting harrassed by supervisors.
17 - oh, and the number of hours in a week? Gimme a break. When I first arrived and asked if I could book a surgical case for 1630, the OIC in the OR nearly herniated laughing herself silly. But, if I want to, I can take that patient to the local civilian hospital where in the doctor's lounge they have free lunch, free drinks, free 50 inch plasma tv, free snacks, and an amazing opportunity to network ad nauseum. The nurses there always ask me if there's something more they can do to make me or my patients happier. I'm offered a smile and a handshake every time I come into the OR. Then again, this last one is more non-military than military. Still good, still happening while I'm on AD so there you go.
 
1) The patients a terrific.
2) The people you work with are as a rule great to work with.
3) You get to travel.
4) Sea stories. (real and slightly exagerated)
 
Here are a few more:

1 -Free skiing at Squaw Valley
2 -You can walk into the airport with 3 M-16s and 3 M-9s, and nobody even opens the case
3 -BAH is tax free, pays most of your mortgage, and you get to write all the interest off on your taxes (biggest military scam ever)

OK, the rest have probably been mentioned, but number one is a big one.

Actually, I have an awesome GMO position that is not really representative of the norm. Still, I have had an incredible experience. The advice above to learn how to work the system is key. There are a lot of cool things to do in the military that can't be done anywhere else in the world. You just have to learn how to take advantage of them. The one really cool thing about a GMO tour is that you, being the astute medical communicator that you are, can usually convince your chain of command that it is EXTREMELY important for you to go to the 1 week Wilderness Medicine Seminar on casualty evacuation in remote environments that just happens to be taught on a rafting trip in the Rockies.
 
....4) Sea stories. (real and slightly exagerated)

There are none of the former, by definition they are ALL the latter.... 👍
"There I was, standing OOD in the Straits of Malacca......"

Here are a few more:

1 -Free skiing at Squaw Valley .....

.....I have an awesome GMO position that is not really representative of the norm.....The one really cool thing about a GMO tour is that you, being the astute medical communicator that you are, can usually convince your chain of command that it is EXTREMELY important for you to go to the 1 week Wilderness Medicine Seminar on casualty evacuation in remote environments that just happens to be taught on a rafting trip in the Rockies.

I SO want your job.....

Bumping this as the "feel good" thread of the year. 👍 +pad+ 👍
 
I was considering joining the military b/c i heard it was a lot less stressful, so I am curious to hear how many hours a week military doctors have to work as compared their civilian counterparts.

Anyone have info on this?
 
I was considering joining the military b/c i heard it was a lot less stressful, so I am curious to hear how many hours a week military doctors have to work as compared their civilian counterparts.

Anyone have info on this?
All I can say is that the hospital I work at has military EM residents coming to our ICU for 1-month shifts. These guys work less than the civilian residents do, from pure hours-per-week to hours-per-shift. And they make more money while doing it.
 
I was considering joining the military b/c i heard it was a lot less stressful, so I am curious to hear how many hours a week military doctors have to work as compared their civilian counterparts.

Anyone have info on this?

For my specialty (ENT):

Average number of hours per week devoted to practice (civilian according to my Academy): 58.2
My average number of hours per week: 42-44

About an 2-2.5 hours a day less as a military doc. However, I get paid just over 1/3 of what I'll make next year as a civilian. So let's suppose I do work at least 2.5 more hours a day every day for about a $200,000/yr increase--let's see, that works out to about $285 an hour for those 150 extra minutes/day when I'm "busting my hump" as a civilian.

Hmmmm. I'll make that sacrifice.
 
As stated above many times, but it bears repeating, the vast majority of your patients are fantastic people. They are healthy, compliant, and truly interested in getting better.

Though fighting the system is futile, once in a while you can truly make a huge difference in someone's life.

If you get "stuck" doing a GMO tour, you get to go to interesting places and do interesting things that your civilian colleagues can only dream of.

Combat Zone Tax Exclusion is awesome.

Getting paid to do TDY/TAD boondoggles.

Getting to play with cool military stuff/hanging out with people who blow **** up for a living.

Breezing through airport security with your military ID.

Federal Holidays.
 
Just bringin' this thread back up. We need to add a li'l good karma
 
I still got a pat down.

They gave me a full search when I was in my whites. My shirt stays kept setting off the damn metal detector.

They also "randomly" searched my sea bag which came back with all my stuff not as well packed as it was before. I'm pretty sure one of those bastards stole my shoe shine kit.
 
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I would bet less than 10% of military physicians have ever even worn those.

Maybe it has something to do with walking around all day feeling like a marionette being pulled up by the socks, or perhaps the occasional pulling of the leg hair by the elastics, or was it the banjo-twang noise they made when slipping around the leg when going from standing to sitting, or was it just the vague notion--maybe a mix of annoyance and embarrassment--that you were wearing something just a bit kink and that would have fit in better in prewar Berlin?
 
I always wore shirt garters with my blues, and my gig line was straight.

I'm not one of those military docs whose uniform looked like garbage. I took pride in wearing it. Those guys who rolled in looking like they'd slept in their uniform used to drive me crazy.
 
not to completely change the subject of the thread, but you can still have your uniform look good without wearing shirt stays, but i do agree with you on some people not taking the time to make sure the uniform looks sharp.
 
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I would bet less than 10% of military physicians have ever even worn those.

I'm a dork. I still wear them. But then again, my shirt likes to bunch up since I"m a big guy (hence the screen name).
 
I used to wear them about 50% of the time, but I'm not allowed in blues anymore. ACC says I'm only allowed to wear BDU's in order to show "solidarity" with my deployed brethren.

I love being a professional in combat boots.
 
Do you wear a white coat over the BDU's?

All the general surgeons do, but I don't. Once I'm at work I just change into scrubs, at least that way I feel somewhat more normal.

Something about wearing combat boots and a long white coat still feels stupid.
 
I preferred BDUs... I found the blues to be uncomfortable, and very difficult to get stains out of (blood, etc). Stains just don't show up as well on BDUs... saves having to wear an un-sat uniform until you can get it to the cleaners.
 
I wore blues for the first time in 2+ years instead of flight suit a few weeks ago just to see if I could still fit into them. Everybody kept asking me what I did to get in trouble and when did I have to go see the commander. It was hilarious. Anyway, I also did it to show solidarity with our enlisted troops who typically wear blues once per week or so. I haven't heard ACC say anything about not wearing blues in order to show solidarity with deployers.
 
I think shirt stays serve more purpose for Navy/Marine because of the military creases. It looks really bad when someone tries to do a military tuck without them.

For the record, if I'm in my whites, I'm not going to skimp out on the shirt stays since I want to look my best.

At least for the ladies 😀 or the occasional person that thinks we're airline pilot or some other random civilian service industry person.
 
Free skiing at Squaw Valley? Is that for all military or do you work in Bridgeport and have a special deal?

I feel a need to refute some the good things other people are saying.

My PT time (TIW) was taken away so we could see more patients. I now go after work (at the expense of family time) or during lunch if I have the time (usually not).

I don't get to refer to whomever for whatever I want. My referral requests get reviewed by a nurse 800 miles away who looks in a book and if it doesn't meet certain criteria, it gets rejected. This is before the referral goes to Tricare.

Good things are generally good folks to work with and the pay is OK considering I'm not in debt, other than the mortgage.
 
Free skiing at Squaw Valley? Is that for all military or do you work in Bridgeport and have a special deal?

It's free for all active duty military. There are some black out dates (check their website), but who wants to ski on national holidays anyway? I heard it's owned by a retired Navy CDR. You just go up to the special tickets counter with your ID, and they give you a pass. Pretty good deal.
 
I bet 90% of those physicians are USUHS grads.

I would have thought USUHS grads would be better dressed/pay more attention to "military" stuff than HPSP grads. Is this not the case?
 
Bump (time appropriate)

well, if you want it from the perspective of one your potential customers (the father of a 14-month old in SD), I'll give it to you: We've got nothing but great care out of Peds at NMCSD and TOC Clairemont. Never had a problem scheduling an appt with our Ped, never had a problem getting at least an NP on the line for my late night panic attacks every time his temp bumps up a bit! Great customer service, mucho thanks!
 
Stumbled upon this unique thread and wanted to give a 👍

Respect.
 
This thread was useful for preparing for the "Do you know the pros/cons of milmed?" interview question lol. I was getting worried I'd only have negatives to report.

Thanks guys! 😀
 
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