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Santygrass said:
You are a wagon because I've been shouting your name repeatedly though. And even then you are not like a consensus poe in the same degree Wasp was. Like everyone was giving a list of 2 or 3 names to vote, and yeah you were in some after my push and are the lead wagon, but more than a few people preferred to focus on the other poe slots to name . I noted that Wasp was the constant in everyone which is why I veto'd them in specific
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If genny flips wolf where do you vote tomorrow?
 
Santygrass said:
You are a wagon because I've been shouting your name repeatedly though. And even then you are not like a consensus poe in the same degree Wasp was. Like everyone was giving a list of 2 or 3 names to vote, and yeah you were in some after my push and are the lead wagon, but more than a few people preferred to focus on the other poe slots to name . I noted that Wasp was the constant in everyone which is why I veto'd them in specific
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I’m pretty sure I’m consensus POE, no one is stepping up to defend me.
 
genny said:
Clem is the runner-up? I’d shoot Clem
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Why so disinterested smh
How do you feel about the Clem wagon overall and the movement? Like if you're town here genny I need your help to guide me to who are the wolves taking advantage of my push on you now, and like who do you feel is in a similar postion as you (being pushed as villa).

Like I will value your read on gamestate a ton if you are villa but I feel like you are reading rn and up to date, and not really giving anything other than just commenting stuff as being present.

I might be being unfair but I really do think that when you are village you have fire reads, takes and instinct that often get misunderstood or are not much noticed, and the lack of those is my main fuel to beliebe you are a wolf . And the best and fastest way to prove me wrong is to solve and show who you think is wolf. Because like... It just feels like it doesnt matter who in the PoE gets killed and arent really reading into stuff much other than supporting the easy pushes
 
toberto said:
Looking at Genny

one of Genny's first posts they give an early reads list:


Early town lean on Kitz which I thought was odd - below I've quoted all of Kitz posts up until this point





















I'm not personally not really seeing much of anything to warrant a town read but I don't want to jump to conclusions on just that

On the very same page as Genny gives her reads, Beans and Fruitsalad have below views on Kitz/Genny's read of Kitz:







And Genny only responds with


a shoulder pass answer to explain an unusual take on the now flipped wolf


I'm not looking at the rests of their posts and there's nothing giving that that they are looking for a solve, it's passive play. Someone also called out a few times that Genny has a good Clem read apparently and yet I can't see her paying any attention to Clem?

unyeet Sars
Yeet Genny
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You are the f best thanks for piling up the posts

(Maybe someone did it earlier but I bookmarked this one)
 
genny said:
I’m pretty sure I’m consensus POE, no one is stepping up to defend me.
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Its not quite the argument Im.talking about in the post you're replying to .

Like, yeah you SAR Clem Wasp are all p close to consensus poe. But the one I noticed kinda just everyone has at the bottom with the weakest reasoning was Wasp, hence why I called it out.

Being in the PoE is not the focus of the matter
 
Santygrass said:
Idk!

Brain goes to Reassess dubz first. But I think the EoD will be very telling as well as the votecounta, which is not something I will look into unless I have a red flip
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But like, I would still reassess everyone because I dont think I have genny as potentially unpaired to anyone except for people in my village blocc already so yeh
 
First answer was dubz because I have them in my mind looking at me putting genny in the spotlight, saying 'Oh, interting maybe I'll look into it' to then never look much more into genny.

But I might have missed posts! Hectic day at work so probably missed a few things, and would be a ton lf stuff to relook and reassess

The main takeaway from a genny w!flip , would be to trust the village blocc and keep working together
 
genny said:
I’m pretty sure I’m consensus POE, no one is stepping up to defend me.
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I'll defend you.

genny is POE, but GTH she would not be one of my 3 wolf picks. Tonally nothing has seemed off to me, and I find the argument that her reads aren't spicy enough to be pretty weak when I think there is a strong consensus on POE. Like what is she supposed to do, say that the remaining wolves are me, fruit, and Santy? What exactly could she say that could be spicy without being completely disingenuous?

I respect that a genny flip would yield useful information, and we're splitting hairs among the POE. But I would put SAR, Zenge, Clem, and maybe dubZ ahead of genny in my POE power rankings.

7 posts left.
 
Zenge142 said:
To be fair, Kitz made no mention of Spurs, Beans, Me, Dubz, SAR, Rae, Squee, you, or Wasp, either.
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This made me chuckle

genny said:
I was honestly expecting more of a reaction to me village reading santy so early, since I’m usually sus of him forever.
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You saying this makes it feel ungenuine? Idk
WildZoo said:
I think santy brought up her reads list previously but here tis again
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This is
 
Day 2 Yeet Tally
Dubz (1) - Mrs Queequeg 26
SAR (3) - Spurs 117, fruit 42, kcalb 43
genny (4) - Santy 82, beans 20, Zenge 97, Toby 48
Zenge () -
Clem (3) - SAR 15, samac 102, Dubz 94
Wasp () -
Santy () -
rae () -

11/15
yeet closed in ~3 hours
 
Santygrass said:
Did you look at the chart? Pls. I was townreadimg him on a tonal level at SoD because he was both being /stubborn/ about some stuff but also clearly relooking at stuffs and doing his own stuff. Like idk how to explain it now Im on mobile but he had that solving fire in him and it shows. I feel that we are kinda clicking too.
And if that wasnt enough you have the PR claim so yeah Zenge is villa wowee
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I kinda wanted a more factual explanation but it's more like the solving energy which I noticed but isn't enough to make me overlook the rest of.the things I pointed out.

Also I'm still thinking his claim is fake, but that might be my bias and theres nothing to do about it
 
Santygrass said:
Did you look at the chart? Pls. I was townreadimg him on a tonal level at SoD because he was both being /stubborn/ about some stuff but also clearly relooking at stuffs and doing his own stuff. Like idk how to explain it now Im on mobile but he had that solving fire in him and it shows. I feel that we are kinda clicking too.
And if that wasnt enough you have the PR claim so yeah Zenge is villa wowee
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The amoung of times I said stuff in a single sentence svsksjsk sorry. I throw stuff when I dont really want to process which would be the correct word to write wheee probably a bad habit I should be working on.

Or I can just say skill issue and move on hmmyes
 
Black Kat said:
I kinda wanted a more factual explanation but it's more like the solving energy which I noticed but isn't enough to make me overlook the rest of.the things I pointed out.

Also I'm still thinking his claim is fake, but that might be my bias and theres nothing to do about it
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You also have what samac said about him.panicking as wolf and yet being kinda openly and casually wrong in EoD. And if I look into their posts I could maybe bring some receipts that are a good look but imo for now I think is alright if you keep the sus knowing its never a yeet for today.

After all we PRs have been blessed by the rand. We will self resolve B)
 
Also for.the record I skipped all of.the charts, my brain is already working overtime translating / playong to try to understand this chart thing. Sorry uwu
 
Santygrass said:
You also have what samac said about him.panicking as wolf and yet being kinda openly and casually wrong in EoD. And if I look into their posts I could maybe bring some receipts that are a good look but imo for now I think is alright if you keep the sus knowing its never a yeet for today.

After all we PRs have been blessed by the rand. We will self resolve B)
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Im also skipping meta reads since I find them subjetive / imposible to check if true in my POV and kinda wanna find my own conclusions with the game that is happening now. I wont prohibit them(? Just past over them if I find an argument that is exclusive to this game
 
Black Kat said:
This is not a take is what I was trying to say befor I posted it (?)
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Sorry I guess I shouldn't expect you to read my mind :laugh: I was saying she likely died because her reads were too correct, though her being the one person kitz "pushed" (if we can call it that) would also make sense
 
GoSpursGo said:
I'll defend you.

genny is POE, but GTH she would not be one of my 3 wolf picks. Tonally nothing has seemed off to me, and I find the argument that her reads aren't spicy enough to be pretty weak when I think there is a strong consensus on POE. Like what is she supposed to do, say that the remaining wolves are me, fruit, and Santy? What exactly could she say that could be spicy without being completely disingenuous?

I respect that a genny flip would yield useful information, and we're splitting hairs among the POE. But I would put SAR, Zenge, Clem, and maybe dubZ ahead of genny in my POE power rankings.

7 posts left.
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I find spurs reflecting my thoughts so accurately is scary. He lives in my head and sometimes beans to


Talking about it where is @beans2020
 
GoSpursGo said:
Probably me and KC loudly and continuously reading her towny for tone.

@samac did notably have almost nothing to say about kitz on day 1 though
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You right, I didn’t do much with her. I spoke with kitz and was somewhat spooked by her village reading me but then I wasn’t back on thread.
 
Santygrass said:
You also have what samac said about him.panicking as wolf and yet being kinda openly and casually wrong in EoD. And if I look into their posts I could maybe bring some receipts that are a good look but imo for now I think is alright if you keep the sus knowing its never a yeet for today.

After all we PRs have been blessed by the rand. We will self resolve B)
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Btw you kind of skipped over the main thrust of my post—what spicy take are you looking for from v!genny in this thread state? After how d1 panned out, it has felt clear that someone in the SAR/genny/clem/wasp group was going down today. So I’m not sure what you’re looking for to convince you to change your mind.

And I agree, Zenge isn’t the vote today because self resolving self resolving self resolving, self resolving, self resolving, self resolving, self resolving self resolving. But just as a fun thought experiment, why does v!Zenge make the claim at that point? I understand why you did it when you did, you were going down if you didn’t RR. He had what, 2 votes and all day to act village-y, why paint the target on his back like that?
 
GoSpursGo said:
I'm still interested in peoples' take on this.

I'm, um, down to only 10 posts. So I will by necessity be getting quiet. But I want to be clear--I kind of like voting for one of these two today, and between the two I would prefer SAR. If we vote today for genny and she flips village, I would look at SAR and Zenge next; if we flip SAR village, then I'd look at Clem and genny next.

I don't feel like we get a ton of direction with a Clem or Wasp flip.
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I also prefer SAR I think.
Though that can be recently bias cause I’m reading her posts and SAR isn’t here
 
genny said:
Town leaning spurs, santy, wasp, kitz.

I’d like to see more from fruit because I’m thinking of voting there
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genny said:
Yeah but doesn’t that make beans and fruit look great? I got info from both of them picking at the craps reads I gave.

Am I the only one who throws out poop just to see who sniffs it?
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toberto said:
what proves that was your motive
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genny said:
Anyone who takes me seriously when I say I village read someone for liking the US women’s hockey team maybe should practice more before champs.
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Does anyone believe this? I'd like to but the lack of follow up of the 'info test' until I brought it up makes it hard to believe
 
110?
has anyone done mention checks and posted them with the Poe and kitz? I know there have been posts of kitz posts, I did that. But has anyone done the other way around?
 
toberto said:
Does anyone believe this? I'd like to but the lack of follow up of the 'info test' until I brought it up makes it hard to believe
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This is the best justification for a genny vote IMO, and it pinged me at the time too. I still prefer SAR because I think she’s getting shielded by a relative lack of engagement, but this exchange wasn’t great.

Either way, I think we learn the most from SAR or genny flips

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toberto said:
Something about not being fully integrated into the came but recognising that wild zoo is called dubz unnerves me because I’m mostly caught up and integrated and it took me a while to realise let alone actually call them dubz

Makes me think is a wolfchat tell
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I did not know they were the same person

That explains a reaction lol
 
samac said:
110?
has anyone done mention checks and posted them with the Poe and kitz? I know there have been posts of kitz posts, I did that. But has anyone done the other way around?
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SAR and dubZ kind of defended kitz

I soft townread her

Zenge didn’t say much until EOD

I know Clem didn’t say anything

I don’t remember if genny said anything specific? Honestly that’s worth checking again.

Nothing else sticks out off top of my head. I feel like most people mostly ignored her or didn’t have much to say when I briefly looked.

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my site is notorious for skimming/failing to read the instructions until day 3. i
samac said:
OH
SO YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE YEETING CLEM?
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no, i did rae (whose name i read) and then dubz, whose icon says dubz. i saw dubz namechecked in people's posts and i *think* that's what i wrote down on my voting list, but that post its is at home.

i asked where the wagon on clem came from but no one replied
 
Zenge142 said:
You eliminate data points all the time, in analysis, if you feel they're outliers or otherwise obscuring the actual narrative.

Looking at climate change data for example you might be inclined to eliminate the months during the height of Covid when planes were mostly grounded and people were no longer commuting to work because of the lockdowns.
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I understand the general principle, I'm asking about the specific reason to eliminate these data points here
 
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