Wrong way of thinking about this. Sure might make it easier to get into vet school, but it will be that much harder to find a job after vet school with that many more indebted new graduates flooding the market. I say boo to this.
The problem with this school, and the two others trying to open a veterinary program, is that there isn't necessarily a deficiency in rural veterinarians. There's simply no money in those economies to support rural veterinarians, even those with in state tuitions.
Even if TT is stingy with their OOS acceptances like A&M, a majority of the classes will still go into urban and suburban medicine cause it pays the bills. If any state wants to incentivize people to practice in a specific location, they need to offer some loam forgiveness or repayment.
Yeah, is certainly something I'm interested in learning more aboutThe problem with this school, and the two others trying to open a veterinary program, is that there isn't necessarily a deficiency in rural veterinarians. There's simply no money in those economies to support rural veterinarians, even those with in state tuitions.
Even if TT is stingy with their OOS acceptances like A&M, a majority of the classes will still go into urban and suburban medicine cause it pays the bills. If any state wants to incentivize people to practice in a specific location, they need to offer some loam forgiveness or repayment.
Yeah, is certainly something I'm interested in learning more about
The Veterinary Medicine Loan Repayment Program
The VMLRP is for qualified veterinarians to reduce their educational debt by providing veterinary services for three years in designated food shortage area.nifa.usda.gov
From what I've heard from some rural med people, it's better but still has headaches related to actually getting paid once you're accepted for the program.
This is the big thing that these hopeful schools haven’t figured out and it’s frustrating. If someone said “you can either make $80,000-$100,000+ with a good chance to go up in pay as you gain experience, or make $50,000 working horrible hours in harsh conditions for the rest of your life” you’d choose the former. Just because you want more rural vets doesn’t mean they’ll magically appear when you increase the number of schools.The problem with this school, and the two others trying to open a veterinary program, is that there isn't necessarily a deficiency in rural veterinarians. There's simply no money in those economies to support rural veterinarians, even those with in state tuitions.
Even if TT is stingy with their OOS acceptances like A&M, a majority of the classes will still go into urban and suburban medicine cause it pays the bills. If any state wants to incentivize people to practice in a specific location, they need to offer some loam forgiveness or repayment.
For the University of Arizona (soon to be) vet school at least, they're incentivizing that by making tuition ridiculously cheap for in state students. I haven't seen the figures in a while but I remember it being pretty close to even ncsu costs. Most Arizona students end up moving to a different state for vet school and never end up coming back, so making an incredibly "cheap" and accessible school for IS students helps at least a bit in retaining vets in the area and giving them the ability to work in a rural setting with low wages, if they choose to do that.
Well, when you put it that way.. I’d have to agree.
This is less of a dumper fire from my understanding. I've done a lot of digging because the area I want to go back to qualifies and has for the past 10 years. You still definitely need to know what you are doing as it seems the biggest hang up is filing paperwork correctly to start with like as a year 1 just moved to the job. One vet that came to my practice had his ducks in a row and didn't have any issues. However, a different vet didn't and got "denied for needing the proper case load." So it definitely pays to do your research and be prepared with this program. Plus hopefully they'll have the taxes taken off of it on the back end so they can award more soon to be more comparable to the same MD programYeah, is certainly something I'm interested in learning more about
The Veterinary Medicine Loan Repayment Program
The VMLRP is for qualified veterinarians to reduce their educational debt by providing veterinary services for three years in designated food shortage area.
Didn’t they also have it where you could be admitted and do your first bit of the program, which was essentially the undergrad stuff, and then not make it onto the end of the program even if you still did decently or something vaguely similar to this? Or am I making things up
Yeah you're remembering that correctlyDidn’t they also have it where you could be admitted and do your first bit of the program, which was essentially the undergrad stuff, and then not make it onto the end of the program even if you still did decently or something vaguely similar to this? Or am I making things up
Didn’t they also have it where you could be admitted and do your first bit of the program, which was essentially the undergrad stuff, and then not make it onto the end of the program even if you still did decently or something vaguely similar to this? Or am I making things up
They had their most recent AVMA site visit in the past month or two. Not sure if they got the results back, but they've been fixing the issues the AVMA presented last time. Last I heard, they hired a permanent dean and are working on hiring on vet school staff this summer. Granted, I don't go there anymore so not up to date on the current status.
.I went to school in California, but had no interest in large animal medicine, so take what I say with a grain of salt. From what I remember, food animal medicine DOES pay pretty well in California although six figures straight out of the gate would be a little unusual. However, most food animal vets ARE making about that much after some years in practice. However, you have to live in the less than ideal areas of California, principally central California. So, while the area may not be rural in the same sense that North Dakota is, you're still pretty far away and isolated from the rest of the state and that kind of living doesn't usually coincide with the desires of most recent grads, at least where I went to school. You're also generally on call 24/7. In addition to this, I think salaries are suffering a little bit for food animal medicine in California as multi-doctor practices are starting to buy out independent practitioners.It's weird that you say this, because one of our faculty(who currently practices bovine medicine) told us that going into bovine medicine in California is really lucrative since there aren't many cow vets here. He specifically said that we were doing something wrong if we did not make more than 6 figures as a new grad going into bovine medicine in California. I was personally skeptical when I heard this from him, but he probably knows better than me
It's weird that you say this, because one of our faculty(who currently practices bovine medicine) told us that going into bovine medicine in California is really lucrative since there aren't many cow vets here. He specifically said that we were doing something wrong if we did not make more than 6 figures as a new grad going into bovine medicine in California. I was personally skeptical when I heard this from him, but he probably knows better than me
Definitely wasn’t going to hold my breath. I think every year they tell people they’re program will be up and running and that they should apply.
I thought their plan was a little outrageous and decided to not wait, thankfully so seeing as where they’re at in the process I definitely wouldn’t have waited around much longer.
I have some people waiting until they open a school before applying, I’d rather get in elsewhere and hurry and get through school
It's weird that you say this, because one of our faculty(who currently practices bovine medicine) told us that going into bovine medicine in California is really lucrative since there aren't many cow vets here. He specifically said that we were doing something wrong if we did not make more than 6 figures as a new grad going into bovine medicine in California. I was personally skeptical when I heard this from him, but he probably knows better than me
(I thought of you too when I saw that and scrolled up to see where you had posted in the thread before I figured out what she meant)
FWIW this is actually incorrect. AZ residents (as well as several other states like HI) may apply to WICHE schools and get affordable IS tuition while attending an OOS school. There are definitely limited slots and not every AZ resident gets it. But one of my good friends in my class gets IS tuition at OSU. Our website says there are only 2 WICHE students in our class but I know this to be factually incorrect, as I know of at least 2 AZ residents and 2 HI residents who got WICHE in my class.
Our website says there are 2 in the entire class but I heard differently during orientation (and personally know of at least 2+ WICHE students)
Um, no I don't think so. I think the website is wrong. Because like I said, they personally told us during orientation that there were (at least) 2 AZ students and 2 HI students who got WICHE. And, like I said, I know more than 2 people who have WICHE, just like I know people who are from these states and didnt get it. Idk why you would assume my classmates and administrators are lying to me.
Ah, sorry. hard to pick up on sarcasm on the internet sometimes lol
