Textbooks

[NStarz]

OSU is switching to a semester schedule this year (from quarters)--yay for being guinea pigs! Anyway, we're taking a brand new clinical pathology course with the c/o 2015. The professor is supposed to be pretty good with his notes, however he also provides a list of eleven textbooks that we may want to consider purchasing. None are required. I wouldn't mind buying a couple if they will be good references later, however. I have absolutely no basis to go off of, though. I asked a vet I worked with her for her opinion, but she's a specialist and these are not in her specialty. I'm leaning towards ER/CC if that helps any. Maybe WTF or someone else can sound off, if you don't mind? Which books have name recognition/do you see vets using often?

And if others want to use this thread for their own 'should I buy this textbook' questions, please feel free!

THANKS!!!

1. Schalm's Veterinary Hematology (Weiss and Wardrop)
2. Veterinary Laboratory Medicine (Duncan and Prasse)
3. Small Animal Internal Medicine (Nelson and Couto)
4. Veterinary Hematology: A Diagnostic Guide and Color Atlas (Harvey)
5. Fundamentals of Veterinary Clin Path (Stockham)
6. Kirk's Current Veterinary Therapy (Bonagura)
7. Large Animal Internal Medicine (Smith)
8. Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine (Ettinger)
9. Small Animal Clinical Oncology (Withrow and MacEwen)
10. Small Animal Clinical Diagnosis by Laboratory Methods (Willard, Tvedten, eds.)
11. Manual of Veterinary Clinical Chemistry (Sharkey and Radin)

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[dyachei]

OSU is switching to a semester schedule this year (from quarters)--yay for being guinea pigs! Anyway, we're taking a brand new clinical pathology course with the c/o 2015. The professor is supposed to be pretty good with his notes, however he also provides a list of eleven textbooks that we may want to consider purchasing. None are required. I wouldn't mind buying a couple if they will be good references later, however. I have absolutely no basis to go off of, though. I asked a vet I worked with her for her opinion, but she's a specialist and these are not in her specialty. I'm leaning towards ER/CC if that helps any. Maybe WTF or someone else can sound off, if you don't mind? Which books have name recognition/do you see vets using often?

And if others want to use this thread for their own 'should I buy this textbook' questions, please feel free!

THANKS!!!

1. Schalm's Veterinary Hematology (Weiss and Wardrop)
2. Veterinary Laboratory Medicine (Duncan and Prasse)
3. Small Animal Internal Medicine (Nelson and Couto)
4. Veterinary Hematology: A Diagnostic Guide and Color Atlas (Harvey)
5. Fundamentals of Veterinary Clin Path (Stockham)
6. Kirk's Current Veterinary Therapy (Bonagura)
7. Large Animal Internal Medicine (Smith)
8. Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine (Ettinger)
9. Small Animal Clinical Oncology (Withrow and MacEwen)
10. Small Animal Clinical Diagnosis by Laboratory Methods (Willard, Tvedten, eds.)
11. Manual of Veterinary Clinical Chemistry (Sharkey and Radin)

6. we use this at work
7. if you are into large animal, then yes
8. definitely

the others I've never used.

 

[squirrelsrule]

I, too, feel like I should be getting at least one or two books from such a long list, but my big recommended not getting any and then checking them out in the library if I need more info. and if I find a book that's really helpful, then buy it. She doesn't think she'll be getting any books for the class.

Might get number 8, though, if Dyachei thinks it will be a good reference

 

[dyachei]

I, too, feel like I should be getting at least one or two books from such a long list, but my big recommended not getting any and then checking them out in the library if I need more info. and if I find a book that's really helpful, then buy it. She doesn't think she'll be getting any books for the class.

Might get number 8, though, if Dyachei thinks it will be a good reference

It is the "go to" medicine book for internal med (at least for me). I own a copy myself and there is another copy at work.

 

[NStarz]

Thanks Dyachei (and squirrels!)!

Is the Ettinger book better than the Nelson and Couto book? I think I'll get one internal med book, but probably not two.

 

[dyachei]

Thanks Dyachei (and squirrels!)!

Is the Ettinger book better than the Nelson and Couto book? I think I'll get one internal med book, but probably not two.

never used it, so I don't know.

 

[rugbychick16]

5. I love it, but I might be biased since he was our professor. A very comprehensive clin path reference

7. Good for large animal stuff, but only buy it if you're interested in LA and plan to keep it around. Otherwise borrow someones

8. Very good for small animal stuff

9. Nice book, but probably only needed if you plan to someday go into oncology or internal med

 

[OH Bunny Girl]

My Big Sib said she was going to wait and see too. She said for all her classes last year she focused on her class notes and only used the books for reference or if she was confused. So I'm not sure which route I plan to use yet :/

 

[sunnex3]

i second (third, fourth?) the ettinger recommendation - i have worked with 2 IMED specialists, as well as a vet who is doubel certified in ER/CC and IMED, and they ALL swear by Ettinger. I think one of them is even passing on an old edition of it to me before i leave for school

 

[LetItSnow]

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11. Manual of Veterinary Clinical Chemistry (Sharkey and Radin)

I don't know about her manual, but I will say that Dr. Sharkey is one scary smart person. She's one of those folks you learn a huge amount being around, and you're intimidated the entire time. She pretty much rocks.

 

[4paws]

OSU is switching to a semester schedule this year (from quarters)--yay for being guinea pigs! Anyway, we're taking a brand new clinical pathology course with the c/o 2015. The professor is supposed to be pretty good with his notes, however he also provides a list of eleven textbooks that we may want to consider purchasing. None are required. I wouldn't mind buying a couple if they will be good references later, however. I have absolutely no basis to go off of, though. I asked a vet I worked with her for her opinion, but she's a specialist and these are not in her specialty. I'm leaning towards ER/CC if that helps any. Maybe WTF or someone else can sound off, if you don't mind? Which books have name recognition/do you see vets using often?

And if others want to use this thread for their own 'should I buy this textbook' questions, please feel free!

THANKS!!!

1. Schalm's Veterinary Hematology (Weiss and Wardrop)
2. Veterinary Laboratory Medicine (Duncan and Prasse)
3. Small Animal Internal Medicine (Nelson and Couto)
4. Veterinary Hematology: A Diagnostic Guide and Color Atlas (Harvey)
5. Fundamentals of Veterinary Clin Path (Stockham)
6. Kirk's Current Veterinary Therapy (Bonagura)
7. Large Animal Internal Medicine (Smith)
8. Textbook of Veterinary Internal Medicine (Ettinger)
9. Small Animal Clinical Oncology (Withrow and MacEwen)
10. Small Animal Clinical Diagnosis by Laboratory Methods (Willard, Tvedten, eds.)
11. Manual of Veterinary Clinical Chemistry (Sharkey and Radin)

3. Is a good over-all guide, and far less cumbersome than Ettinger.

7. Seems like the "go-to" book for large animal people (which I am not so I've never used it).

8. Is "the small animal internal med book" according to everyone I know. It's very thorough, but may be over-kill in some cases. I like it, but often peak at Nelson/Couto first if I just have a quick question.

9. Is a pretty good oncology book, but I've never seen any others, so I don't know what else is out there.

10. Is an awesome guide for interpreting CBC, Chem, UA, etc. I've also seen it used by seasoned vets to figure out differentials when values are just plain weird.

Don't have much/any experience with the others...

 

[bbeventer]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

 

[NStarz]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

I bought 1, 2, 4, and 9. 1 is your dissection guide--need that one. Everyone said Whater's histo is excellent.

 

[LetItSnow]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

The general rule of thumb is that you don't need books.

One notable exception is the Guide/Dissection. You want that for anatomy.

After that... it's nice to have a decent anatomy book. I love Pasquini and have used it in several classes.

I *really* liked Constanzo's physiology. It's not veterinary specific, but that doesn't matter. It's well-written, readable, study-able, great charts/diagrams... one of the few books I used a *lot* first year to supplement the class.

Can't speak to the others. I didn't bother with a histo book, didn't crack my biochem book, read-but-wouldn't-recommend my immunology book.... and my other books were all purchased just for personal interest.

 

[PetPony]

My friends used #12 in their repro class and liked it. It's an UG class though. The ones wanting to go to vet school are keeping it though because they used it there, too. I downloaded one online if you want that one (free!), though it's not the latest edition (there is one coming out right now apparently).

 

[scb44f]

My friends used #12 in their repro class and liked it. It's an UG class though. The ones wanting to go to vet school are keeping it though because they used it there, too. I downloaded one online if you want that one (free!), though it's not the latest edition (there is one coming out right now apparently).

Our repro phys professor highly recommended it. I didn't buy it, but soon I realized his lectures sucked. I ended up borrowing a copy from someone in my class to understand synchronization methods further, which helped me tremendously.

 

[lei325]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

I agree with LetItSnow. Unless you think you'll want to have it close at hand, don't buy it. I hated Dyce (2), and I wish I hadn't bought it. Haven't cracked that thing open since October 2010. Wheater's (9) is awesome for reference of normal histo. For Physiology, I really liked Cunningham (5), but that's a matter of preference.

 

[UIUCHopeful]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

Not sure how much this will help since I'm in your class and in the same boat... I ordered 1,2, and 5 online. My big sib said not to bother getting the histo books. I'll probably get the anatomy coloring book too. Also, on our checklist it says we need a blue coat. Can we not just wear the one we get at the blue coat ceremony?

 

[Tco87]

Not sure how much this will help since I'm in your class and in the same boat... I ordered 1,2, and 5 online. My big sib said not to bother getting the histo books. I'll probably get the anatomy coloring book too. Also, on our checklist it says we need a blue coat. Can we not just wear the one we get at the blue coat ceremony?

I think we need those coats for clinics 2nd year so it would probably be better to not get anatomy juices all over them. I heard some people just wore scrub tops to anatomy lab, so that's something to consider.

Does anyone have thoughts on using on older edition of Guide to the Dissection of the Dog? A friend sold me her 6th edition copy for $20 and I'd rather not buy a newer one unless there are significant differences.

I don't plan to buy any new books until the semester starts and if I think I need something I'll either get it from the bookstore or from Amazon.

 

[squirrelsrule]

I bought a used copy of guide to the dissection of the dog- 6th edition to use in lab because that copy will likely be destroyed and then I got myself a new 7th edition one to study from. I compared the two and the page numbers are different (new edition is bigger so more on each page) but the general info. is the same and everything appears to be in the same order. Also, the new one is in color and the 6th edition in black and white. I'd say go for the older edition for cheaper though

 

[orca2011]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

Dyce and the dissection guide are the only two I've bought so far and really the only two older students have told us to buy. All our books are on in reserve in our library so they're at least there if you need them. They also told us to hold off on buying anything for Histology or Developmental until we find out how we need to study for it. And I already have our Biochem recommended text but it's an older edition by like a year so I'm not even bothering with that one.

 

[LetItSnow]

All our books are on in reserve in our library so they're at least there if you need them.

The library comment is excellent. Most libraries have all the textbooks, and there's no real reason you have to have textbooks right away ... take the time to check them out and decide if they'll be useful, and THEN order the ones you want.

 

[Bill59]

I wouldn't buy any text book that's not absolutely required. Especially if you have access to a vet. medical library with ebooks and books on reserve. The clinical texts will be out of date by the time you graduate. Once you get a job you can always get what you need -- you'll have more money and it's tax deductible.

 

[LetItSnow]

I wouldn't buy any text book that's not absolutely required. Especially if you have access to a vet. medical library with ebooks and books on reserve. The clinical texts will be out of date by the time you graduate. Once you get a job you can always get what you need -- you'll have more money and it's tax deductible.

... and you won't be using loan money with interest to purchase them (for those on the loan path through school).

 

[devyn]

So I got my book list today... and am wondering what you guys think on each. Also are the vet consult ad-ons that much more beneficial and useful then just the textbook? The top portion of books are all listed as required... however, what am hearing from other students most don't buy all of them. Thanks!!!

1. Guide to the Dissection of the Dog 7th Edition (Evans & DeLahunta), 2009
2. Textbook of Veterinary Anatomy (Dyce et al.), 2009,
4. Anatomy of Domestic Animals (Pasquini et al.) Sudz Publishing
Physiology
5. Veterinary Physiology 4th Edition(Cunningham & Klein)
6. Physiology (Costanzo) 4th Edition, 2009
7. Textbook of Veterinary Physiological Chemistry (Engelking)
Histology
8. Veterinary Histology (Samuelson), 2006
9. Wheater's Functional Histology (Young et al.), 5th Edition

We have some recommended books as well:
10.Bill, Robert: Medical Mathematics and Dosage Calculations for Veterinary Professionals (2nd Edition). Blackwell Publishing, 2009.
11. West, JB. Respiratory Physiology: The Essentials, 8th ed. Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
12. Senger, PL. Pathways to Pregnancy and Parturition.

I bought way too many books my 1st year because I was told by 2nd years that we needed them - I think they just wanted to sell their books TBH. You can easily read the chapters from most books in the library when you need to and you can get away with buying the bare minimum as far as books go.

I prefer Pasquini to Dyce....so I would recommend that. Just a great quick reference guide and no fluff. I have Cunningham and I found it super helpful. Engelking is great, but the chapters are super short, so it is easy to read what you need in the library and be done with it.

If you want a great anatomy book with photos and dissection related ****e then the Color Atlas of Veterinary Anatomy: The Dog and Cat is awesome - it is pricey, but totally worth it - and they have a horse & ruminants edition.

 

[bbeventer]

Wow thanks for all the replies! So if I went ahead and bought 1, 4, and 5 you think I would be good? I have a stronger background in histology than I do Physiology, so I feel like I may need a phys book for reference.

They did say all these books are available in the library. Uh, so much money.

 

[orca2011]

Wow thanks for all the replies! So if I went ahead and bought 1, 4, and 5 you think I would be good? I have a stronger background in histology than I do Physiology, so I feel like I may need a phys book for reference.

They did say all these books are available in the library. Uh, so much money.

The dissection guide isn't too bad. I got mine for like $58+ $4 in shipping from half.com. I think it was the same price on Amazon too for a brand new copy. I wish I had bought Dyce at the same time though...I ended up getting both books from the same seller so I could have saved $4 on shipping costs. =( That equals one coffee to keep me awake in my millions of hours of class or late nights studying.

 

[bbeventer]

The dissection guide isn't too bad. I got mine for like $58+ $4 in shipping from half.com. I think it was the same price on Amazon too for a brand new copy. I wish I had bought Dyce at the same time though...I ended up getting both books from the same seller so I could have saved $4 on shipping costs. =( That equals one coffee to keep me awake in my millions of hours of class or late nights studying.

Thats good to know. I have never used half.com before, I'll have to give it a look.

 

[NStarz]

I checked on half.com and got a little nervous because of the 3rd party sellers. I'm more of a main company kind of girl. So I went with amazon. However, my parents also bought my textbooks so I had a little more wiggle room than most.

 

[devyn]

Wow thanks for all the replies! So if I went ahead and bought 1, 4, and 5 you think I would be good? I have a stronger background in histology than I do Physiology, so I feel like I may need a phys book for reference.

They did say all these books are available in the library. Uh, so much money.

I do not have 1, but Cunningham and Pasquini are definitely worth the money in my opinion. Cunningham does a really good job explaining the phys of vet and I have found it very helpful - I see myself using it 2nd year as well. And of course the Pasquini with the anatomy I would think will be helpful throughout vet school.

 

[orca2011]

I checked on half.com and got a little nervous because of the 3rd party sellers. I'm more of a main company kind of girl. So I went with amazon. However, my parents also bought my textbooks so I had a little more wiggle room than most.

FWIW, I have never had a problem with anything I have bought on half.com. It's an ebay company, so you're covered by all their Buyer Protection and stuff. I think I've gotten pretty much all my books from there since my sophomore year, brand new and some were cheaper than Amazon. I bought my stats books used from them and sold it back to my school and made $40+ on it. For the most part, many of the books are coming from sellers with good ratings (and some seem to be book warehouses/stores)and are reliable and many have return/refund policies if there is an issue. I've even been given coupons from certain sellers for discounts on my next purchase.