The Bell Commission... is there a list

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I was wondering, is there a list of hospitals that adhere to the Bell Commission? If so where can I find them. I'm Pre med but I have relatives who, after hearing about Libby Zion want to know what hospitals follow the Commission and which ones do not.

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I really would like to know. Can someone just answer then this topic can be closed.
 
What is the Bell commission....I've never heard of it and I'm sure I'm not the only one out there who hasn't.

Have you tried a web search? Maybe that's your best bet.
 
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I had no idea either. I did a web search, and it has something to do with limiting resident work hours. Libby Zion is a patient who died due to her doctor's lack of sleep.
I have no idea what hospitals adhere to it.
 
Look, they are talking about doing something about residencey hours in the UK too :clap: Maybe we really will see a change by the time we get to that stage in our medical careers.

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Doctors warn over sleep dangers

The jailing of the sleep-deprived man who caused the Selby rail crash has could affect the way junior doctors work, they claim.
Doctors at the British Medical Association's junior doctors conference in London on Friday were highlighting the exhaustion suffered at the end of a night shift.

In January, Gary Hart was jailed for five years for the manslaughter of 10 people who died when his Land Rover ended up in the path of an oncoming train.

At the trial, the court heard Hart had fallen asleep at the wheel of his car having not slept the night before.

From the patients point of view, they would rather be treated by a doctor who has had adequate rest

Dr Jo Hilborne, BMA junior doctors committee
Junior doctors say the government should admit that all doctors unfit to drive home after a period of prolonged duty must also have been unfit to treat patients towards the end of their shift.

They are calling for measures to be put in place to ensure patients, and doctors themselves are not put at risk.

The conference demanded hospitals provide rest areas for doctors to use at the end of their shift - and put in place to ensure doctors can travel home safely after work.

In addition, junior doctors want national and international working hours limits enforced in full.
 
I'm borrowing this post from scamp.... this is what scamp posted in "Front page NY Times today...Concerning New Limits on Resident Hours" thread.

Hospital Accreditor Will Strictly Limit Hours of Residents
By LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN and DENISE GRADY

In a move that is expected to make a significant change in the way doctors are trained, the group that accredits the nation's teaching hospitals said yesterday that it would impose strict new limits on the number of hours worked by medical residents.

The rules, intended to reduce the risk of dangerous errors by sleep-deprived young doctors, are to take effect in July 2003. They will limit the workweek to 80 hours, require at least 10 hours of rest between shifts, restrict duty to no more than 24 hours at a time and restrict work outside the hospital.

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They will also require stricter supervision and accountability from the hospitals that train the residents. Faculty members and program directors will be required to assess the residents for signs of sleep loss and fatigue.

Residents are newly minted doctors who spend three to seven years training as specialists in hospitals after they earn a medical degree. Many of the nation's 100,000 residents complain that they now work 100 or more hours a week.

Some specialties like internal medicine and emergency medicine have already limited residents' workweek to 80 hours. But the new working-hour rules are the first ever imposed on all specialty training programs by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education, an organization in Chicago that monitors the training of residents in 114 specialties in 7,800 programs throughout the country.

New York is the only state with a law limiting such work hours, to 80 a week for all residents. The council's action coincides, however, with the introduction of federal legislation by Senator Jon Corzine, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative John Conyers Jr., Democrat of Michigan, that would also limit residents' hours. Concern about residents' schedules has intensified, the council noted, now that hospitals are under ever greater pressure to discharge patients quickly as a way to control costs.

Responding to the new rules, a union representing residents said the council had done little to enforce existing rules that it adopted in the 1980's. Those rules say residents should get at least one day off in seven and be on call no more often than every third night.

The union's national president, Dr. Ruth Potee, said the council had "come a long way in this year in recognizing that residents' hours are extreme" and was now "closer to where we'd like them to be." But she added that the union was not happy with a provision of the rules that will allow hospitals to increase the 80-hour week by 10 percent if they can justify doing so on educational grounds.

"We feel strongly that 80 hours a week is truly the limit," said Dr. Potee, a family medicine resident at Boston Medical Center.

Dr. Potee said some residents now worked 120 hours a week. Hours tend to be longest, she said, in surgery, obstetrics and gynecology, and family medicine.

Her union, the Committee of Interns and Residents, has about 12,000 members — some 10 percent of the nation's residents — and is affiliated with the Service Employees International Union, the largest union in the A.F.L.-C.I.O.

Among the groups represented on the accreditation council are the American Hospital Association, the Association of American Medical Colleges, the American Medical Association and the American Board of Medical Specialties.

Dr. David Leach, the council's executive director, said it intended to enforce the new rules aggressively, using confidential Internet surveys of residents to find out whether hospitals are violating them. Reports of egregious violations could lead to a quick visit to the hospital to evaluate them on site, he said.

Violations could be costly: a training program might be stripped of accreditation. If so, the hospital would lose some of its reimbursement from Medicare and Medicaid. In addition, doctors cannot be certified as specialists unless they graduate from a training program that is accredited.

Last month the council threatened Yale-New Haven Hospital, a teaching affiliate of the Yale School of Medicine, with loss of accreditation of its surgical program because residents were on call too many nights and were working weeks of 100 hours or more. Although existing rules place no specific limit on the workweek of surgical residents, in general the council can act when it finds that a hospital has breached the rules' spirit.

In any event, the new changes "will force a redesign of the entire training system," Dr. Leach said.

Strict compliance with the rules could increase teaching hospitals' costs by millions of dollars, since those hospitals often rely on residents as a source of low-cost labor.

In separate interviews, Dr. Leach and Dr. Potee noted that budget constraints had forced many teaching hospitals to reduce their staffs, including nurses and workers who draw blood and move patients. Although many hospitals have hired aides called "physician extenders" to help with such work, much of the burden has fallen on residents, increasing their hours and interfering with their education.

In 1999, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences issued a report citing evidence that medical errors in hospitals killed 44,000 to 98,000 people a year.

A number of experts have come to believe that most medical errors result from systemic flaws in the way hospitals, clinics and pharmacies operate, not from individual recklessness. Training programs are part of the larger system, and the council wanted to fix its part of the systemic problem, Dr. Leach said.

The rules will have a big effect on surgery because that specialty has not set workweek limits on its own.

Leading surgical educators recognize that patients have a right to an alert physician to deliver appropriate care. But they also say surgical training requires a commitment to continuity in patient care, regardless of the time of day, number of hours already worked or on-call schedules.

Standards set by the surgical specialty specified only that surgical residents were supposed to spend at least one day out of seven free of hospital duties and not be on call any more than every third night. There were a variety of reasons for the absence of a maximum workweek.

One was the widely accepted belief that the more often a surgeon does a procedure, the better the performance. In their desire to do as many operations as possible, surgical residents have tended to stay at the hospital longer to get the experience.

Another reason was the importance of continuity in patient care. Surgeons have felt a heavy obligation to stay with a patient, particularly if a complication arises, until they recover.

Although New York State limits all residents to an 80-hour workweek, the accreditation council's surveys have found those regulations "were not all that effective," Dr. Leach said. But, he said, in recent months New York had stepped up the enforcement and fines associated with the regulations.

I just wanted to know because it could make a lot of attendings and faculty very irate and resentful toward incoming students and graduating students. They may see it as the new MD's have it too easy.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by lola:
•Look, they are talking about doing something about residencey hours in the UK too :clap: Maybe we really will see a change by the time we get to that stage in our medical careers.

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Doctors warn over sleep dangers

The jailing of the sleep-deprived man who caused the Selby rail crash has could affect the way junior doctors work, they claim.
Doctors at the British Medical Association's junior doctors conference in London on Friday were highlighting the exhaustion suffered at the end of a night shift.

In January, Gary Hart was jailed for five years for the manslaughter of 10 people who died when his Land Rover ended up in the path of an oncoming train.

At the trial, the court heard Hart had fallen asleep at the wheel of his car having not slept the night before.

From the patients point of view, they would rather be treated by a doctor who has had adequate rest

Dr Jo Hilborne, BMA junior doctors committee
Junior doctors say the government should admit that all doctors unfit to drive home after a period of prolonged duty must also have been unfit to treat patients towards the end of their shift.

They are calling for measures to be put in place to ensure patients, and doctors themselves are not put at risk.

The conference demanded hospitals provide rest areas for doctors to use at the end of their shift - and put in place to ensure doctors can travel home safely after work.

In addition, junior doctors want national and international working hours limits enforced in full.•••••now wouldn't you want to know which hospitals would participate and which wouldn't?
 
As far as I know the Bell Commission is only in New York state and applies to all residency programs in that state. It has improved hours somewhat, but is hard to enforce in tougher programs like surgery or neurosurgery.
 
I'm M4 student about to start the search for residency.

The only way I know to find out information like this is to ask the residents at a particular hospital. Unless the various residency review committees publish a list of violators, I can't imagine there being a list, as no one would want to admit to violating the rules.

I would guess that probably the majority of residency programs probably don't adhere to the 80 hour work week. Depends a lot on the specialty too. Things are really starting to change now, though. At my school, most of the residency programs (internal medicine, surgery, OB at least) were threatened with fines if they didn't change the way they do things. So for my 4th year, call schedules and the like will be very different than they are now. Not necessarly better...in some circles the concensus is that they will be worse.

I'd bet that by the time the class of 2006 graduates, things will have changed.
 
I'm not quite sure if I like the change or not,but by time I'm done with postbac courses and applying and inevitably getting in I think things will be dramatically different. Basically I wanted to know out of curiousity. Thanks Guys. Oh and if anyone can find any info on this subject I would appreciate it. I am still looking and asking about but with no success. Thanks again.

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