The Official April MCAT 2015 Takers Thread

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Hey guys,

I've seen some old threads (from 2012, or early 2014) on the MCAT2015.

I am wondering if we can bring resources together here, discussions for those who are planning on taking the new one in or after April.

Has anyone gotten their hands on the new prep material for 2015, and the chance to compare the different companies? I scoured the internet, obviously not much at the moment. But I know someone out there has started, just need to get this info out!

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Resources mentioned in this thread or elsewhere:

  • Free mini-test: AAMC MCAT 2015 12 sample questions and answer (3 x 4 sections)
  • Next Step guide here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...e-mcat-2015-100-days-to-mcat-success.1101251/
  • TPR 2015 books: They seem to be the same as their previous books. Their bio book has a chapter on biochem.
  • Kaplan 2015 books: removed content that is not tested. Physics section is 400 pages (may be too much for the new MCAT). Very little practice. Whole book on biochem.
  • EK 9th edition books: reformatted the whole book. SDNer reviewer has said that even parts with same illustrations have whole new contents. Got rid of topics that won't be tested. May be too condensed though.
 
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Have you done any more NS FL since you took the first one? I have taken two of those by now and they are hard, especially the verbal and pschy!

wow i'm glad you feel the same way man. I thought I was alone in this boat.

On NS #2 I got:
PS: 126
VR: 123 (I couldnt ****ing believe it)
BS: 127
PSY: 129

Hands down the hardest test I've taken in the past 3 months. Extremely disappointed but that was definitely an outlier. I couldn't believe the verbal. The equivalent of a 6 🙁
 
wow i'm glad you feel the same way man. I thought I was alone in this boat.

On NS #2 I got:
PS: 126
VR: 123 (I couldnt ****ing believe it)
BS: 127
PSY: 129

Hands down the hardest test I've taken in the past 3 months. Extremely disappointed but that was definitely an outlier. I couldn't believe the verbal. The equivalent of a 6 🙁


Wow got the same scores as you on the first three section and blew psychology with a 124... Just when I thought I was getting a hang of things based on TPR 2 but TPR 2 was easier than the other FLs anyways...
 
Don't sweat it man. I took 8 TPR exams and 5 Kaplan exams and not a single one of those came close to that exam. TBH I don't really know how I feel about NS. The biology, even though I got 127 was just insane. There is no way AAMC would ask questions like that. Some of those question stems were literally essays.

Wow got the same scores as you on the first three section and blew psychology with a 124... Just when I thought I was getting a hang of things based on TPR 2 but TPR 2 was easier than the other FLs anyways...
 
So how are people feeling about the Khan academy passages? Are they worthwhile at all or just as overly detailed as Kaplan?
 
Not at all, Kaplan's are just plain terrible but TPR is still much harder than AAMC material for the sciences, and I think way too easy in psych. (I also got a 130 in psych without trying, although I do have a big psych background).

So, for now it looks like TPR has tests that are a better representation of AAMC than Kaplan and NS.
 
So should I even bother taking the Kaplan FL?
Honestly, in my opinion, no. But see what works for you. I took two Kaplan (I only have 3 Kaplan, the ones that came with the book set), and I didn't get anything from sitting through the test, which is a waste of 7 hours. I decided that I won't take test 3, I'll just review all the answers for some extra content review because they sometimes are pretty helpful.
 
So.. With 3 weeks to go--is anyone (ironically) losing motivation/feeling the signs of burnout? I somehow need to kick this feeling!

I'll just read the solutions for the Kaplan FLs and focus on other things then! Thanks.

And God, yes. Instead of feeling like I need to crack down on studying these next few weeks I just want to get the test over with. So tired of studying, it's been a long 3-4 months.
 
So, for now it looks like TPR has tests that are a better representation of AAMC than Kaplan and NS.
are you sure? I really don't think TPR passages are representative of the new mcat passages that will be asked. TPR recycled a ton of old passages


So how are people feeling about the Khan academy passages? Are they worthwhile at all or just as overly detailed as Kaplan?

they worked directly with the AAMC. other than EK 9th and AAMC 2015 questions, they are the best source of passages you can do. DO THEM

you'll see 95% of their passages involve some experiment being done (just like the new mcat will be) rather than just 3 paragraphs of information like most of TBR or TPRH
 
sorry for double post 🙁



I paid the $100 for NS 3 FL package and took the NS #1 today. Holy **** was it hard. My average statistics for all 8 FL Princeton over the past 6 weeks are: PS 127, VR 126, BS 129, PSY/SOC 130, for a cumulative total of 512. On this NS, I got 125, 125, 128, 128. For a grand total of 506. Holy hell. I was also really out of it because I had horrible back pain, but my overall evaluation is this: the physics on this test was insanely hard. AAMC would never ask questions like that. VR wasn't terrible I just sucked at it. BS again wasn't hard, but I did much worse than I thought. PSY was on par with other test prep companies. Overall, they repeated 3 entire passages VERBATIM from another TPR exam I took last week (even with the exact same answer choices verbatim), so I'm pretty sure one of those companies are plaigarizing the **** out of the other and that a lawsuit will probably start soon. Cheers!

thx for answering my other question

have you been taking AAMC 2015 passages or checked out their guide? or done khan academy passages? which company's tests do you think will help the most on the real thing? Have you taken the 2015 aamc test? I was considering buying NS's 3 or 5 exams, and maybe MCAT cracker as well
 
are you sure? I really don't think TPR passages are representative of the new mcat passages that will be asked. TPR recycled a ton of old passages




they worked directly with the AAMC. other than EK 9th and AAMC 2015 questions, they are the best source of passages you can do. DO THEM

you'll see 95% of their passages involve some experiment being done (just like the new mcat will be) rather than just 3 paragraphs of information like most of TBR or TPRH
Why EK 9th? Just wondering if I missed something significant
 
So.. With 3 weeks to go--is anyone (ironically) losing motivation/feeling the signs of burnout? I somehow need to kick this feeling!

YES. I came on here to see if anyone else was feeling this way. I hit the apathy stage waaaay too soon lol. Whenever I get to a topic I don't like studying, I just think "meh, chances of this being on my test are slim". LOL not a good place to be.
 
Why EK 9th? Just wondering if I missed something significant

EK 9th did extremely well updating their passages, they're also pretty difficult. But they're very representative in that you'll be seeing lots of primary research articles being referenced in the passages, and having to interpret confusing graphs from actual experiments that were done

I'm scanning them all and adding highlight features to them all to make it really feel like I'm taking an AAMC test, I hate doing passages within a book
 
With 3 weeks left, which FLs have you guys taken and which ones do you think were most/more representative to AAMC style questions?
It seems like the general consensus seems to be AAMC sample test > AAMC question packs > TPR > NS > Kaplan. What about GS? How does that compare?
 
With 3 weeks left, which FLs have you guys taken and which ones do you think were most/more representative to AAMC style questions?
It seems like the general consensus seems to be AAMC sample test > AAMC question packs > TPR > NS > Kaplan. What about GS? How does that compare?
I heard MCAT cracker is really good but not I'm not sure myself. has anyone taken it? I tried to register for their free half test and it kept saying I don't have a login :/

I also heard NS > TPR. I've only taken TPR exams and I don't think they're good
 
I heard MCAT cracker is really good but not I'm not sure myself. has anyone taken it? I tried to register for their free half test and it kept saying I don't have a login :/

I also heard NS > TPR. I've only taken TPR exams and I don't think they're good
I have access to Kaplan FLs but now I'm debating on using those since they don't seem to be representative. Advice on which FLs to take? Considering I work FT, I'm trying to be strategic as possible. I can take probably 5 FLs.
I haven't tried MCAT cracker. I'll have to give them a look.
 
I'm scanning them all and adding highlight features to them all to make it really feel like I'm taking an AAMC test, I hate doing passages within a book

I too hate all things printed, I would so love to study for MCAT only using online/computer resources.
 
Hello April MCAT takers,
Anyone planning on taking an MCAT prepcourse? If so, why are you choosing one prep company over the other?
I have spoken with a few representatives on the phone from different companies, and they sound just as unsure about what to expect from AAMC.
Please share what you know of different strengths and weaknesses of different prep courses for the 2015. I'll appreciate any insights,
Thanks in advance.

This is my thought process . I was doing the same as you; shopping around for prep courses, however, I agree with you. I don't think these prep companies know any more than we do about this exam, which is not comforting when they're asking for more than $1,000 to take their course; they are using the same references that we are using from the AAMC. So, here's my thought. Don't pay for a course unless you seriously cannot force yourself to study at home. If there are worries in regards to understanding subject matter, then just look for a tutor, which is 10x cheaper.
In regards to study materials, my motto is I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I ended up purchasing 2013 TBR, 2015 EK, some old AAMC Exams, the AAMC MCAT book w/ online quest, and AAMC Test. I've heard enormous positive things about TBR, so I emailed them about their updated 2015 mcat materials. Basically they told me that in 2012 they added new material to their books (including the Biochm) because "they were anticipating this change in the MCAT subject matter", and therefore any books from 2012 and up contain the amount of material needed for the new mcat, with the exception of the psych and soc book, which will be released some time towards the middle of 2015. Meaning, that they are not changing the present books they are selling. The negs I heard about TBR was that old MCATers complained that there was too much info in the books. Taking this into consideration, I figured I would purchase books with an over abundance of info, and I also decided to purchase a 2015 prep book set to supplement so that my butt is completely covered in regards to a) the amt of info provided for specific subject matter and b) the exact info covered for new MCAT. When it comes to whether or not TBR is updated for new MCAT, aside from what their company rep says, no one knows, but I did notice something interesting while studying today. I read molecular ch from EK, and they listed all 20 amino acids, but said that you only need to know the gen structure, not the specific R groups. When reading my 2013 TBR section 6, TBR is telling you to memorize the R groups of all 20 AA's and know which groups they are in (polar, non polar, etc). I figure that whatever TBR is telling me to know that EK is skipping, I'm just gonna memorize it b/c at this point, the only way to feel better about taking an exam in which you have no idea what to expect, is to cover your behind and know it all. Sorry for the ridiculous rant from me; I was just tryin to maybe help anyone reading all these comments.
 
This is my thought process . I was doing the same as you; shopping around for prep courses, however, I agree with you. I don't think these prep companies know any more than we do about this exam, which is not comforting when they're asking for more than $1,000 to take their course; they are using the same references that we are using from the AAMC. So, here's my thought. Don't pay for a course unless you seriously cannot force yourself to study at home. If there are worries in regards to understanding subject matter, then just look for a tutor, which is 10x cheaper.
In regards to study materials, my motto is I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I ended up purchasing 2013 TBR, 2015 EK, some old AAMC Exams, the AAMC MCAT book w/ online quest, and AAMC Test. I've heard enormous positive things about TBR, so I emailed them about their updated 2015 mcat materials. Basically they told me that in 2012 they added new material to their books (including the Biochm) because "they were anticipating this change in the MCAT subject matter", and therefore any books from 2012 and up contain the amount of material needed for the new mcat, with the exception of the psych and soc book, which will be released some time towards the middle of 2015. Meaning, that they are not changing the present books they are selling. The negs I heard about TBR was that old MCATers complained that there was too much info in the books. Taking this into consideration, I figured I would purchase books with an over abundance of info, and I also decided to purchase a 2015 prep book set to supplement so that my butt is completely covered in regards to a) the amt of info provided for specific subject matter and b) the exact info covered for new MCAT. When it comes to whether or not TBR is updated for new MCAT, aside from what their company rep says, no one knows, but I did notice something interesting while studying today. I read molecular ch from EK, and they listed all 20 amino acids, but said that you only need to know the gen structure, not the specific R groups. When reading my 2013 TBR section 6, TBR is telling you to memorize the R groups of all 20 AA's and know which groups they are in (polar, non polar, etc). I figure that whatever TBR is telling me to know that EK is skipping, I'm just gonna memorize it b/c at this point, the only way to feel better about taking an exam in which you have no idea what to expect, is to cover your behind and know it all. Sorry for the ridiculous rant from me; I was just tryin to maybe help anyone reading all these comments.

Definitly memorize the aa, they were ehavily questioned on the actual AAMC test.
 
What do you guys think of the new scoring scale? I know lots of people are translating their practice test scores to the old scale, but is this really accurate? Yes, the scale is still out of 15 points, but from what I've read the percentage of people at each score is supposed to be different.

Also, I read this on AAMC:
"Additionally, the score scales give special attention to scores in the center of the scales. This makes sense because history shows that the vast majority of students who enter medical school with scores in the center of the current scales graduate on time and pass their USMLE Step exams on the first attempt.3 The data show that students with a wide range of MCAT scores and UGPAs have succeeded in medical school, demonstrating admissions committees’ skill in combining information about applicants’ qualifications from applications, transcripts, letters, and interviews with information about medical schools’ curricula, support services, and graduation requirements to accept students likely to succeed. Importantly, emphasizing the center of the scale, rather than the top third, is consistent with holistic review practices"

Thoughts?
 
What do you guys think of the new scoring scale? I know lots of people are translating their practice test scores to the old scale, but is this really accurate? Yes, the scale is still out of 15 points, but from what I've read the percentage of people at each score is supposed to be different.

Also, I read this on AAMC:
"Additionally, the score scales give special attention to scores in the center of the scales. This makes sense because history shows that the vast majority of students who enter medical school with scores in the center of the current scales graduate on time and pass their USMLE Step exams on the first attempt.3 The data show that students with a wide range of MCAT scores and UGPAs have succeeded in medical school, demonstrating admissions committees’ skill in combining information about applicants’ qualifications from applications, transcripts, letters, and interviews with information about medical schools’ curricula, support services, and graduation requirements to accept students likely to succeed. Importantly, emphasizing the center of the scale, rather than the top third, is consistent with holistic review practices"

Thoughts?
I read this too. Maybe AAMC is trying to evaluate human beings instead of intelligent robots to do medicine?
 
What do you guys think of the new scoring scale? I know lots of people are translating their practice test scores to the old scale, but is this really accurate? Yes, the scale is still out of 15 points, but from what I've read the percentage of people at each score is supposed to be different.

Also, I read this on AAMC:
"Additionally, the score scales give special attention to scores in the center of the scales. This makes sense because history shows that the vast majority of students who enter medical school with scores in the center of the current scales graduate on time and pass their USMLE Step exams on the first attempt.3 The data show that students with a wide range of MCAT scores and UGPAs have succeeded in medical school, demonstrating admissions committees’ skill in combining information about applicants’ qualifications from applications, transcripts, letters, and interviews with information about medical schools’ curricula, support services, and graduation requirements to accept students likely to succeed. Importantly, emphasizing the center of the scale, rather than the top third, is consistent with holistic review practices"

Thoughts?

that'd be awesome if they actually followed through on those words. the way I feel about the mcat is, everyone studies MONTHS for this exam. if you don't, you probably won't score as high. not because you're less smart but gave less time. how is that an evaluation of your success ESPECIALLY in the 3rd and 4th years when you're with patients and have to think fast. you can't be like "oh wait, can't deal with you right now. need to go back to the drawing board and figure out what to do."
 
YES. I came on here to see if anyone else was feeling this way. I hit the apathy stage waaaay too soon lol. Whenever I get to a topic I don't like studying, I just think "meh, chances of this being on my test are slim". LOL not a good place to be.

also, this is me. lol I did this last mcat with amines. "no way the 1 ochem passage I'll get will be on amines." what did I have a whole passage on?! ouch. trying to force myself to cover my bases this time around. hard though when I don't know (or care) where charged particles are going in an electric field.
 
also, this is me. lol I did this last mcat with amines. "no way the 1 ochem passage I'll get will be on amines." what did I have a whole passage on?! ouch. trying to force myself to cover my bases this time around. hard though when I don't know (or care) where charged particles are going in an electric field.
Agreed. Right now, even today, I'm like...I can't sludge through one more pointless verbal passage, I'm going numb...but then I'll switch to lab techniques or go over fluids again. Of course, on the actual exam it will be that one topic I didn't go over enough. How is anyone else taking these last 3 weeks?

I'm trying for 5-6 practice exams with a thorough review of each, but I tend to be too ambitious and get sidetracked. I cannot wait to have a life again rather than living and breathing the mcat, at least until I get my score and figure if I need to retake or not.
 
I was reviewing the content for the exam, did anyone else notice Boltzman's constant? So that isi 1.38 x 10^-23 J/K. other than that and gravity, did anyone else notice what constants are needed to know?
 
I haven't noticed any other constants but it might make life easier to know the mass of electrons and protons.

Has anyone come across anything about the percentiles they're giving us on 5/8? Meaning are they giving us the percent we got correct or the percentile of other test takers we scored higher than?
 
I haven't noticed any other constants but it might make life easier to know the mass of electrons and protons.

Has anyone come across anything about the percentiles they're giving us on 5/8? Meaning are they giving us the percent we got correct or the percentile of other test takers we scored higher than?
I believe that it is our percentiles; a kid in my prep course said that med schools will end up using our percentile ranks as basis for evaluation anyways since the new scale is uncharted territory. Idk how I feel about that / how valid that is
 
They aren't supposed to compare our percentiles to the percentiles of applicants with the old MCAT since they're two very different tests. In other words, 83rd percentile on the old MCAT does not equal 83rd percentile on the new MCAT, since the tests have different subject material. I don't know that this will actually happen, because that would result in almost two separate application pools, with old MCAT applicants in one pool and new MCAT applicants in the other. This whole thing is an effing mess.
 
They aren't supposed to compare our percentiles to the percentiles of applicants with the old MCAT since they're two very different tests. In other words, 83rd percentile on the old MCAT does not equal 83rd percentile on the new MCAT, since the tests have different subject material. I don't know that this will actually happen, because that would result in almost two separate application pools, with old MCAT applicants in one pool and new MCAT applicants in the other. This whole thing is an effing mess.
Its starting to seem like admissions won't understand the new test scores...but I believe I heard somewhere that the percentage is going to be based off of how you do compared to others who also taking the exam. Sounds like my Evolution class in undergrad where there were 3 exams with a major curve and a 65%=A. Totally didn't learn anything in that class other than I hate organic evolution. That is the impression I am getting with this exam.

At least on this exam it seems more relevant to actual medical school. Who needs to know how a laser moves electrons that beam up into the sky to cause some nitrogen to alpha decay from the lava flowing through the half-sphere mousetrap at the bottom of the ocean...then calculate the buoyancy of a snowball that falls into the lava. I'm glad I can flush that!
 
Would like to confirm on the number of passages in each section. Some FLs I have done got 9 and some got 10. What about on the AAMC sample test? And the real thing? I'd like to make sure before I screw myself thinking that I would have 10 mins for each passage (especially on the verbal).
 
That constant was given, plank's wasn't though.
I was reviewing the content for the exam, did anyone else notice Boltzman's constant? So that isi 1.38 x 10^-23 J/K. other than that and gravity, did anyone else notice what constants are needed to know?
 
Would like to confirm on the number of passages in each section. Some FLs I have done got 9 and some got 10. What about on the AAMC sample test? And the real thing? I'd like to make sure before I screw myself thinking that I would have 10 mins for each passage (especially on the verbal).
9 passages on AAMC sample
 
Would like to confirm on the number of passages in each section. Some FLs I have done got 9 and some got 10. What about on the AAMC sample test? And the real thing? I'd like to make sure before I screw myself thinking that I would have 10 mins for each passage (especially on the verbal).
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Same for the other sections, except CARS, which says 53 questions/90 minutes
 
^yeah, but that could be 9 or 10 passages. on the AAMC sample test, was it 9 passages per section or only 9 on verbal and 10 on every other section?
I'm not sure its safe to say 9 passages. Maybe noone will know til test day. On test day, it might be wise to run through the passages to count them first or just keep track of your time with the number of questions. That is about 1.69 minutes per question. The old mcat was about 1.34 minutes per question. While the new exam may seem like more minutes per question, I'm thinking the passages might be longer.

Yesterday I was completely slacking off, so I've got get back on that bull and ride it out.
 
I'm not sure its safe to say 9 passages. Maybe noone will know til test day. On test day, it might be wise to run through the passages to count them first or just keep track of your time with the number of questions. That is about 1.69 minutes per question. The old mcat was about 1.34 minutes per question. While the new exam may seem like more minutes per question, I'm thinking the passages might be longer.

Yesterday I was completely slacking off, so I've got get back on that bull and ride it out.
i've only taken TPR exams and they have 39 passages. but I am curious to know from someone who took the AAMC sample test. also supposedly some passages are 12 questions long? that's crazy if true, TPR only had 4-6 questions per passage.

passages may be a little longer, but I think one of the main reasons you get more time is to interpret all the data/graphs which will be on just about every passage
 
i've only taken TPR exams and they have 39 passages. but I am curious to know from someone who took the AAMC sample test. also supposedly some passages are 12 questions long? that's crazy if true, TPR only had 4-6 questions per passage.

passages may be a little longer, but I think one of the main reasons you get more time is to interpret all the data/graphs which will be on just about every passage

10 passages each. 9 for verbal.
 
Just finished. PHEW!

So here were my score breakdowns for the AAMC Sample:

Phys/Chem: 39/59 ----> 66%
CARS: 45/53 ----------->85%
BIO: 43/59------------>73%
Psyche: 50/59 ---------->85%

Believe it or not, I've really raised those science sections! Was an International Studies/French major in college, so well... yeah. The only time I do passages on psyche/verbal is during practice exams, so that was about it until the real deal. It will be science grind from here on out. Cheers everyone!
 
@Levrone Lol no never 12 questions... there would only be 4-5 passages if 12 questions each. I'd say on average, about 5 questions. Of course with the discretes trickled throughout.
 
@Levrone Lol no never 12 questions... there would only be 4-5 passages if 12 questions each. I'd say on average, about 5 questions. Of course with the discretes trickled throughout.
Thank you. Have you taken other 2015 full lengths for comparison? sry for all these Q's
 
Thank you. Have you taken other 2015 full lengths for comparison? sry for all these Q's

don't worry about it. I was you up until yesterday and am still interested in others' thoughts.

I took the NS diagnostic (never a FL) thought it was easy. that was right after content review a while back. Then, more recently, 3 TPR which I did not like. The one good thing about them was biochem. I don't have any sources of passages for biochem and that helped me hone in on a few of the emphases.

What I have done recently though is what someone on here suggested: the AAMC pack. Bought them (ugh) but they are def more representative of the AAMC practice test than TPR
 
Just finished. PHEW!

So here were my score breakdowns for the AAMC Sample:

Phys/Chem: 39/59 ----> 66%
CARS: 45/53 ----------->85%
BIO: 43/59------------>73%
Psyche: 50/59 ---------->85%

Believe it or not, I've really raised those science sections! Was an International Studies/French major in college, so well... yeah. The only time I do passages on psyche/verbal is during practice exams, so that was about it until the real deal. It will be science grind from here on out. Cheers everyone!

What have you been practicing with?
 
For those of you who haven't taken sample test, FYI its true, SO heavy on the AAs full structures, properties, single letter and three letter abbreviations, etc. so don't listen to the test prep companies and make sure you memorize and understand them!
 
What have you been practicing with?

I have a bunch of stuff from past years. Predominantly TPR workbook I stumbled upon on my laptop. Sometimes TBR passages. Just realized I have EK 1001 q packs so used a couple of those lesson passages for bio. I don't think it's so much what you use, but rather that you practice those weak areas in any way possible!
 
For those of you who haven't taken sample test, FYI its true, SO heavy on the AAs full structures, properties, single letter and three letter abbreviations, etc. so don't listen to the test prep companies and make sure you memorize and understand them!
wait, the single letter and 3 letter abbreviations are on there?!? i am familiar with the structures and properties of each but didnt want to waste my time with the abbreviations...
 
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