The Official August 15, 2014 MCAT Thread

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Hey guys, I'am signed up for this date. I didn't find a thread for August 15th, so here it is. Let's make this a fun experience, and hope we all come out the other end satisfied with our score.

Materials:
PS: BR Physics, NOVA Physics, BR Chemistry, EK 1001 Chem & Phys
BS: EK Biology, BR Biology, EK 1001 Biol
Verbal: EK 101, TPR Verbal

Extras: TPRH SW, WIkiPremed Flashcards & videos. All AAMC FL plus all Kaplan FL.

Lets do this.
 
Are y'all planning on studying the day before? I feel like I shouldn't, but I'm sure I will gravitate towards doing some light studying anyways
 
@TBRBiosadist Do you think you could help me out with this question? I was taking the AAMC self-assessment and the question is "What kind of interactions take place between NH3 molecules?" I put down Hydrogen-bond only, but the answer is both hydrogen bond and dipole-dipole bond. I'm a little confused since I thought H-bonds were just much stronger versions of dipole-dipole bonding. Why would there be dipole-dipole bonds as well?
 
I am going through the BR fluids chapter now but I mainly get frustrated when I do passages because I feel like I understand the main concepts as I am reading the chapters but when it comes to applying them in problems, I seem to have an issue 🙁 Any suggestions? I do better when doing EK1001 problems but not by much. Thanks!
 
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I am going through the BR fluids chapter now but I mainly get frustrated when I do passages because I feel like I understand the main concepts as I am reading the chapters but when it comes to applying them in problems, I seem to have an issue 🙁 Any suggestions? I do better when doing EK1001 problems but not by much. Thanks!
 
@TBRBiosadist Do you think you could help me out with this question? I was taking the AAMC self-assessment and the question is "What kind of interactions take place between NH3 molecules?" I put down Hydrogen-bond only, but the answer is both hydrogen bond and dipole-dipole bond. I'm a little confused since I thought H-bonds were just much stronger versions of dipole-dipole bonding. Why would there be dipole-dipole bonds as well?

The nitrogen has a lone pair of electrons which cause the H atoms to be bent downwards. A consequence of this is the dipole is not canceled because it is not a trigonal planar molecule. It is trigonal pyramidal. (haven't studied this in awhile but I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track)
 
I am going through the BR fluids chapter now but I mainly get frustrated when I do passages because I feel like I understand the main concepts as I am reading the chapters but when it comes to applying them in problems, I seem to have an issue 🙁 Any suggestions? I do better when doing EK1001 problems but not by much. Thanks!

Don't worry about it. Suffer through the problems. The thing is, the MCAT will not be composed entirely of difficult problems. There will be a mix of all types. BR usually has high difficulty problems, these are not meant to gauge your score but cause a deeper understanding of the material. For reference, I got smoked on basically every chapter of the BR Physics and Chemistry and i'm doing really well on the AAMC's. Beware though, the AAMC's tend to "broaden" the concept to make it seem foreign when it is actually very simple. Good luck!!
 
The nitrogen has a lone pair of electrons which cause the H atoms to be bent downwards. A consequence of this is the dipole is not canceled because it is not a trigonal planar molecule. It is trigonal pyramidal. (haven't studied this in awhile but I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track)

Ahh ok that makes sense. So by that logic H2O can also go experience dipole-dipole interactions?
 
Don't worry about it. Suffer through the problems. The thing is, the MCAT will not be composed entirely of difficult problems. There will be a mix of all types. BR usually has high difficulty problems, these are not meant to gauge your score but cause a deeper understanding of the material. For reference, I got smoked on basically every chapter of the BR Physics and Chemistry and i'm doing really well on the AAMC's. Beware though, the AAMC's tend to "broaden" the concept to make it seem foreign when it is actually very simple. Good luck!!

Thanks! That makes me feel a lot better 🙂 I am going to take my first AAMC test tomorrow.
 
Anyone else using Princeton's Reviews Science workbook? I'm really liking this book. Seems about on par with AAMC difficult, maybe a little harder. :happy:

AAMC 9 and 10 were both 37's for me which makes me more than happy. Dumb mistakes cost me a 40 score but i'm not complaining.

Last test is aamc 11 for me. Taking it next week either before or after my orgo lab final.
Good luck everyone!
 
Anyone else using Princeton's Reviews Science workbook? I'm really liking this book. Seems about on par with AAMC difficult, maybe a little harder. :happy:

AAMC 9 and 10 were both 37's for me which makes me more than happy. Dumb mistakes cost me a 40 score but i'm not complaining.

Last test is aamc 11 for me. Taking it next week either before or after my orgo lab final.
Good luck everyone!

Doing EK for everything but Bio and then doing Bio in TPR's Science Workbook. EK's more difficult than it needs to be, but I feel like it's good review for me. And nice work on those scores! I've taken AAMC 10, and thought it was one of the easier ones. How did you think 9 was compared to 10?
 
The nitrogen has a lone pair of electrons which cause the H atoms to be bent downwards. A consequence of this is the dipole is not canceled because it is not a trigonal planar molecule. It is trigonal pyramidal. (haven't studied this in awhile but I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track)

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure hydrogen bonding is a type of dipole-dipole bonding. I've always remembered them as building on each other. If you have hydrogen bonding, you have dipole-dipole, london.

(http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/hbond2.html) "Hydrogen bonding is a special type of dipole-dipole attraction between molecules, not a covalent bond to a hydrogen atom."

That's how I've always understood it at least. Might be worth asking in MCAT Q&A. Sorry to interject, just wanted to make sure I understood this lol
 
Do y'all read the BS passages? I realized one of the reasons I've plateaued at 10-11 is because I miss details that I would have read in the BS passages. But I feel like if I do read the BS passages, I won't have enough time at the end..
 
Do y'all read the BS passages? I realized one of the reasons I've plateaued at 10-11 is because I miss details that I would have read in the BS passages. But I feel like if I do read the BS passages, I won't have enough time at the end..
Really, because bs section is the only section right now where I have ridiculous amounts of time left over? And I've heard that's fairly normal.
 
Do y'all read the BS passages? I realized one of the reasons I've plateaued at 10-11 is because I miss details that I would have read in the BS passages. But I feel like if I do read the BS passages, I won't have enough time at the end..

Absolutely read the passages. It is a huge mistake not to. Many of the questions are geared specifically towards knowledge gained from the passage. If you don't get through the bio passages with reading, there is something else you need to work on. I would suggest getting through a bunch of bio passages with reading untimed for a while before trying to time yourself again. Forgoing reading the passages makes nearly all the questions harder. It may be that it is taking so much time because you are contemplating a seemingly hard question that would not be as hard if you gained the information that is given in the passage.

@TBRBiosadist it is hard for you to compare yourself because you are getting nearly perfect scores on every AAMC you take...
 
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Ive just seen that on other threads, otherwise I wouldnt have said anything because I know its not applicable to everyone
 
@iforget2 I agree with what @sillyjoe said! While some questions can be answered strictly based on outside knowledge and don't require anything from the passage, some questions deal with the passage directly and ask about things that more than likely you don't know coming into the exam. This rewards students who not only have a solid bio content base but also have good reading comprehension skills. In my experience it's definitely worth spending a couple minutes reading the passage to see what your'e dealing with. Especially passages that involve relationships between things (hormone X is secreted and binds to Y which causes Z) or experiments. I think it would end up saving you time from having to go back and look up details. While @TBRBiosadist is definitely doing a lot better than I am on my practice tests, I also have noticed that I usually have some time leftover on BS. I usually don't have much if any leftover for PS or VR.
 
AAMC 7
(15/15/14) that bs had about 3-4 orgo passages, ridiculous, and there was a fair amount of random knowledge needed (thank you medical shows)

Just finished AAMC 7 and got the same score on a section as TBRBiosadists #lifecomplete #forgettherealtest

If only I could get above a freaking 10 on Verbal
 
Absolutely read the passages. It is a huge mistake not to. Many of the questions are geared specifically towards knowledge gained from the passage. If you don't get through the bio passages with reading, there is something else you need to work on. I would suggest getting through a bunch of bio passages with reading untimed for a while before trying to time yourself again. Forgoing reading the passages makes nearly all the questions harder. It may be that it is taking so much time because you are contemplating a seemingly hard question that would not be as hard if you gained the information that is given in the passage.

@TBRBiosadist it is hard for you to compare yourself because you are getting nearly perfect scores on every AAMC you take...

I'd have to echo his sentiments, though. Bio is the only one I finish "easily", though my PS score is usually higher.
 
Thanks guys! I'm taking AAMC 7 tomorrow and will start reading the BS passages before going to the questions

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oh forgot to update here AAMC 8#
14/15/15 (14 if you cant a question that was a mismark)
 
Doing EK for everything but Bio and then doing Bio in TPR's Science Workbook. EK's more difficult than it needs to be, but I feel like it's good review for me. And nice work on those scores! I've taken AAMC 10, and thought it was one of the easier ones. How did you think 9 was compared to 10?

Honestly, I was a bit nervous at first because I did a bit of research before taking any practice tests and the general consensus was that they got harder. What I experienced was that they indeed did NOT get harder. They all felt the same.

Preparing for the MCAT is mostly learning how to take the test, much less content review. I mean yeah you have to know the basics but you have to know how the aamc wants you to apply it. If you figure this out early in your studying. Your golden. I'm glad I did. I didn't do any serious content review. Just tons and tons of Q's from a variety of sources. Berkeley Review, Gold standard MCATs, Examkrackers, AAMC self assessments, aamc MCATs, Princeton Review Science and verbal workbooks. To get me exposed to as many questions as possible and hone in on my test taking abilities. My averages are pretty good at around 35 and If i got that on the real one, I'd be more than happy. Heck, even a 31-32 I'd be happy. I try not to let hubris get in the way. I just want to be a Doctor. Maybe MD/PhD depending on my score. We'll see.
 
Hey guys! first off, good luck to you all, just 12 days to go!

I took my AAMCs in this order:
#5- 30 (11, 10, 9) in early july
#7- 34 (12, 9, 13) on 8/2
#3- 36 (11, 12, 13) on 8/3

Planning to take 4, 8, 9, 10, 11 in that order over the next 12 days. On days after I take a practice MCAT and days in between, what do you recommend I should do? My content is pretty solid so i was thinking about reviewing flashcards and doing verbal passages but just keeping my day fairly relaxing in general. Should i follow this or do more practice passages/problems from TPR online (took the course) or the Science WB?

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
 
Hey guys! first off, good luck to you all, just 12 days to go!

I took my AAMCs in this order:
#5- 30 (11, 10, 9) in early july
#7- 34 (12, 9, 13) on 8/2
#3- 36 (11, 12, 13) on 8/3

Planning to take 4, 8, 9, 10, 11 in that order over the next 12 days. On days after I take a practice MCAT and days in between, what do you recommend I should do? My content is pretty solid so i was thinking about reviewing flashcards and doing verbal passages but just keeping my day fairly relaxing in general. Should i follow this or do more practice passages/problems from TPR online (took the course) or the Science WB?

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!

I would just review the exams for what you missed to fill in those (small) content gaps. But like you said I'd also keep it sorta light to give your brain a break since that's a lot of full lengths to take in the next 12 days. And since you're already doing so well on them. Nice work!

Edit: Also I would keep note of any particular subjects or types of passages you tend to miss and spend some time studying just that content to get it down pat.
 
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Hey all! I decided to just take this test and void it because I've heard the real test is more challenging than any of the AAMCs..so hopefully paying all that money will be worth the practice.
 
Hey all! I decided to just take this test and void it because I've heard the real test is more challenging than any of the AAMCs..so hopefully paying all that money will be worth the practice.

If you are scoring in your target range on the AAMC's you probably should not do this.
 
Yeah I'm not quite there yet--that's why haha

Believe me, I also want to be done with this stupid exam...
 
Yeah I'm not quite there yet--that's why haha

Believe me, I also want to be done with this stupid exam...

If your not that far off you may want to give it a shot. The MCAT might be "harder" but the curve is still judging people the same.
 
In reply to the mcat being harder. It isnt. If it was the average taker wouldnt score within two points of their aamc average, plus or minus. It seems harder either because they are making it easier with a curve or its just the stress of test day.
 
I actually already hired him to take my exam. Just working past the biometric issue...
Dont worry about that sillyjoe, because here is the twist. I AM YOU. I am simply a manifestation of a schizophrenic consciousness and sillyjoe simply has a second account where he posts as me
 
In reply to the mcat being harder. It isnt. If it was the average taker wouldnt score within two points of their aamc average, plus or minus. It seems harder either because they are making it easier with a curve or its just the stress of test day.


Yeah that may be so--granted, this is just what I've heard from people who recently took it and said no AAMC compared well. You can check the forums for more testimonials. Either way, the extra practice can't hurt.
 
Its different yes. Harder, Ive heard high scorers say it isnt harder, just different
 
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