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Holy ****. Goodjob, I should reschedule so I don't have to take the same day as you. What have you been getting on various prep companies practice tests?Just completed the AAMC practice test. Feeling more confident after doing it (definitely easier than EK), and more motivated, as my studying seems to be paying off. I'm still super nervous about the psych/soci section though. Still so many WTF moments when I'm reading questions.
Chem/Phys: 55/59 (93%)
CARS: 52/53 (98%)
Biol: 54/59 (92%)
Psych/soci: 51/59 (86%)
What material have you been using for each subject?Just completed the AAMC practice test. Feeling more confident after doing it (definitely easier than EK), and more motivated, as my studying seems to be paying off. I'm still super nervous about the psych/soci section though. Still so many WTF moments when I'm reading questions.
Chem/Phys: 55/59 (93%)
CARS: 52/53 (98%)
Biol: 54/59 (92%)
Psych/soci: 51/59 (86%)
Last practice test I took was EK, where I got somewhere between 75-80% correct (I can't remember the exact breakdown). I also took the NS half diagnostic (514?) and a diagnostic from PR/Kaplan (I can't remember which), where I got a 504 or 505. I'm going to take the 2 other EK exams before my June 20th test date, but won't be bothering with any other prep companies exams, as they're way too focused on the details, and I just find it frustrating doing the test. I think my time will be better spend addressing particular topics I'm still struggling with.
I've primarily used the EK books, although I'm supplementing with KA passages. I've also started supplementing EK with practice problems from BR (yay for hand me downs 😛) for the subjects I'm weak on. I haven't taken physics/gen chem in 8 years at this point, so there are some definite cobwebs that have had to be brushed off 😛 As for psych/soci I've supplemented EK using the topic list from AAMC and google, but clearly still not caught all the terms, as every test I take, there's some new WTF moment where I have no idea what they're talking about 😛
I'm just super relieved. It's been difficult balancing school/work and studying, but thankfully it seems to be paying off. Gives me the motivation to keep working hard for the next 3 weeks since I know all the work is not going to waste 😛
Keep in mind that while I've seen improvements, I still don't feel 100% improved and my 60% in verbal today on the TPR 2 reinforced that. I seem to do better on the AAMC official stuff, but most of that was untimed (maybe 11-13 min per passage). Also keep in mind that this process takes time to get used to. I've been doing about 4 passages every day with analysis.
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I'm by no means a verbal expert. But I've significantly improved by percentages in AAMC passages from 60% to 85% by watching the 4 cambridge learning center videos on youtube.
It encourages an in depth reading of the passage. You use analysis on rhetoric (relationship of sentences) to identify:
Topic sentence of each paragraph (usually first sentence) - Key idea of the paragraph. Every thing after will by used as support or to elaborate. Also can be the main point of the passage if this paragraph is the thesis paragraph.
Conclusion sentence - this is the significance of every thing stated between it and that first topic sentence of the paragraph.
These are the main points you remember on your first read through. While you read the paragraph, you also look for rhetorical cues, or indicators of importance. Here are some examples:
Pivotal words - but, and, therefore, etc...
Quotation marks - author is saying, pay attention to this - and it either is support for the topic sentence, a clarification/definition, or most importantly, irony - where the author means the opposite.
Semicolons and colons - the author uses this to indicate importance. He's saying, this is important and I'm going to say it twice in two different ways. Usually the most important thing is what comes after the semicolon/colon.
So you read the paragraphs, reflect on the key ideas (topic sentence) and significance of the paragraph (conclusion sentence) and you have mapped out the important cues of each paragraph but you don't really need to memorize them, just know where they are when you need to answer a question.
So how do you tell the meaning of these sentences? You use grammar analysis. Grammar is the relationship of words in a sentence. You basically find the main clause of that thesis/conclusion sentence, the NOUN VERB part of the sentence that doesn't rely on anything else to support it. You strip down the modifiers and you have the idea.
When you answer questions about the passage, you are asked to identify key ideas, reasons why author mentioned things, and inferences. This is actually pretty simple. You identify the location of the question reference within the passage and you use the thesis or conclusion sentence to associate the key idea or significance.
For inferences, you usually relate key idea and significances (PLURAL) together to draw a conclusion about why the author mentioned it. This also goes for questions the author asks in the text.
Now these things aren't always black and white, but with enough consistency and practice, it becomes second nature. This is what I've been noticing in my work with it, and as I understand this more and more, it saves me time answering questions.
This was an interesting video. Always curious what people who score in the 12-15 in verbal do differently. Based on reading the old posts it seems like a 12=~~15 considering the luck of the draw has a part to play. However, it seems like in his analysis he missed some nuance. The studies in the passage were completely glossed over, and so was the methodology of the study. It is not only important to understand what the key ideas are but in questions like : why is the authors assumption weak? or what would most weaken? or what would most strengthen the authors case? All these questions require an understanding of what evidence was provided as support. My two cents. Not an expert either. Heck, english isnt even my first language.
Ha! Maybe i should have read the darn verbal book. I havent practiced verbal at all besides the FL practice tests.Oh I totally agree. Keep in mind that this is a brief overview of part of the strategy of analysis. But this is also provided by a learning center that wants to encourage you to take their online class, so they won't review everything.
I've read through the whole TPR CARS book and have received a lot of other useful insight on attacking other questions through passage work. I think the strengthen/weaken questions are actually a little easier, because often the answers are extremes.
Ha! Maybe i should have read the darn verbal book. I havent practiced verbal at all besides the FL practice tests.
Yes. TPR FLs. I scored a 129 on one a few weeks back in verbal and before that 127-128 average. The most recent ones have been destroying me for some odd reason, most definately a timing and practice thing since i have been focused on the sciences i havent practiced verbal as much. took an old aamc today and scored an 11, so I hope the most recent TPR FL verbal sections were just insane. I havent done any of the new AAMC material yet maybe tomorrow.TPR full length tests?
I practice so much and it is so incredibly frustrating. For AAMC material I do pretty well in the 70-80% correct range. But when I do TPR passages, every other passage I get like half wrong. I don't know whether they are harder or what :/
whoareyou?Should I focus more on content review or passages? Kaplan biochem is so detailed and I didn't memorize every single aspect of it.... But would it benefit me more to practice doing passages rather than memorizing metabolic pathways? Thanks
Yeah I know haha. I guess I'll focus more on passages because I keep making silly mistakes.whoareyou?
Next Step 1/2 Diag: 497 (taken at beginning of prep)
TPR Demo #1: 502 123, 126, 125, 129
TPR FL #2: 502 125, 125,125, 127
TPR FL #3: 502 123, 126,126, 127 (Just recently taken)
AAMC Official FL: 63%, 85%, 73%,64% (This was taken at the beginning of my prep)
What are your scores?
I scored a 502 on Kaplan FL #6, and a 499 on Kaplan FL #7. I find the Kaplan FL's to be incredibly frustrating from time to time.
Are you noticing on the TPR exams that they only allow you to see one question at a time?
I am actually avoiding the TPR tomorrow just for that reason. I always scan through the questions and answer the ones that I can quickest first, so having to answer one at a time messes up my entire approach.
The new MCAT only shows 1 question at a time so you better get used to it.
Lol yup. Don't really know how I feel about it...WTF.
WTF.
You got that right.I scored a 502 on Kaplan FL #6, and a 499 on Kaplan FL #7. I find the Kaplan FL's to be incredibly frustrating from time to time.
Have you taken the AAMC yet?Just finished TPR 3 today! Got a 504. I will review tomorrow to see what I got wrong, but feels good to see my scores go up in each section 🙂 (except for CARS lol there were two passages that destroyed me...the other ones were great!)
Take the AAMC test sooner than later. It is drastically different than the Kaplan tests and will make you feel a lot better about where you are sitting.I've taken 4 Kaplan FL so far, but my score hasn't changed much. I haven't even broke 500 yet 🙁 with the test 3 weeks ago, I am concerned that I won't be ready. Any advice/suggestions?
I've taken 4 Kaplan FL so far, but my score hasn't changed much. I haven't even broke 500 yet 🙁 with the test 3 weeks ago, I am concerned that I won't be ready. Any advice/suggestions?
No need to apologize. Are you talking about the free standing questions at the end of the chapters? If so I'm not gonna sit here and either demoralize or patronize you based on the difficulty of those questions, I would say rather that if you do get them wrong understand why and the theory/concept behind the question it might help in the long run. Keep your head up. I've heard that they are not very representative of questions on the test anyway, this last part is only hear say so make of it what you will.I apologize if this has been answered, but for anyone that has been using the TPR review books, how do you feel about the questions at the end of each chapter? I've been finding them difficult :/
No need to apologize. Are you talking about the free standing questions at the end of the chapters? If so I'm not gonna sit here and either demoralize or patronize you based on the difficulty of those questions, I would say rather that if you do get them wrong understand why and the theory/concept behind the question it might help in the long run. Keep your head up. I've heard that they are not very representative of questions on the test anyway, this last part is only hear say so make of it what you will.
Yes they're hard. They definitely stress specifics and aren't representative of the real test. With that being said, they are still important topics to know, and they can certainly help you do better on the tests. If you can answer the hard stuff, then you definitely have a good understanding of what's going on.Yes, I've definitely been doing that. It's just so frustrating getting them wrong esp those physics questions! It's good to hear that it might not be representative though!
Nope! I'm gonna take it this week. I'll update you all how it goes. I'm excited for it!Have you taken the AAMC yet?
I usually get 7 or 8 /10 right. They are specific for sure and they purposely make them hard. A lot of times they'll throw something in that one may get wrong based on the way it was covered in the chapter just to teach you a specific case/exception.I apologize if this has been answered, but for anyone that has been using the TPR review books, how do you feel about the questions at the end of each chapter? I've been finding them difficult :/
dont worrry... Im at the same boat. Prinston and kaplan tests just rape me... Took AAMC got 80%. Those tests are very unrepresentative. But good in a sense that if you can do well on kaplan you will do WELL on the real thing.I've taken 4 Kaplan FL so far, but my score hasn't changed much. I haven't even broke 500 yet 🙁 with the test 3 weeks ago, I am concerned that I won't be ready. Any advice/suggestions?
Anyone know how to access the EK mcat FL practice exams after you purchase them? Its an exam you take online correct? I can't seem to find how you access it.
Anyone know how to access the EK mcat FL practice exams after you purchase them? Its an exam you take online correct? I can't seem to find how you access it.
I am just waiting on two more transcripts and I will be ready to submit. Snaaaaaail Mail.How are you guys all balancing your studying with filling out your applications? What's the goal for submitting?
How are you guys all balancing your studying with filling out your applications? What's the goal for submitting?
I usually get 7 or 8 /10 right. They are specific for sure and they purposely make them hard. A lot of times they'll throw something in that one may get wrong based on the way it was covered in the chapter just to teach you a specific case/exception.
I have tried a bunch but I think the Khan passages are most closely related to the official guide questions. I haven't done the practice test yet though.What material do you guys use for practice questions, practice passages, and practice exams?
My average is right around 6/7 correct out of 10. I was getting worried because I would think I had a very good understanding of the material until I do the questions! I'll be doing the AAMC practice test soon though to see where I really stand 🙂
What material do you guys use for practice questions, practice passages, and practice exams?