hey guys i still havent gotten a phone call. and my status is still under review...does this mean its time to move on?
**** The Official UNC Class of 2017 Interview/Acceptance Thread ****
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Since interviewers are the ones calling, as it was on December 3rd (and 4th... and 5th...) then I think we should give it until the end of the day tomorrow before making any definitive statements about things being over. UNC isn't usually one to update AADSAS very promptly, so I think Seahawk's experience in December was more of a fluke than something any of us should expect (as far as statuses still saying "Under review"). Hopefully more of us will hear soon.
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It definitely was, according to them.
AADSAS will tell all tales when it updates as it did last time.
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Besides this post no one has reported a call today on 1/31. The admissions office said they were calling people today and there is only one report of a call today. Anyone know what is going on? Is aadsas suppose to update tomorrow?
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Some people i know got the call today. I guess it's over now...
Mine did as well. Waitlisted.
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Join the club.
So much for instate tuition.
I wish it updated yesterday after they made the decisions instead of leaving me waiting by my phone for 2 days.
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Declined.
I feel dead inside.
I feel dead inside.
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Declined. I am dying, I can't believe this, my interview went stellar. This is horrible.
in the same boat.
I just logged onto my AADSAS account and saw that I have been wait listed. Does anyone know how many people are on it? or when I could expect to hear back? also, is it bad to call the school and ask those things?
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I think you can email Dr. Wilder if you want to talk face to face, although I'm sure he would respond through email as well.
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sorry for the confusion... left my accnt signed in and my roommate thought he would have some fun... rejection here.
Hang in there people. I know it seems like the end of the world now, but it will get better. Just gotta keep your head up, stay positive, and go full steam ahead to improve your application for next year. This is my second year applying so I understand how it feels. So far I've only been waitlisted at UNC this year.
I did contact Dr. Wilder last year to set up a meeting. If you do email him, expect a pretty long wait to hear anything back, and it will probably be from Dr. Morano responding on behalf of Dr. Wilder. Believe it or not, he told me via email that there was nothing wrong with my application and that a face to face meeting would not be particularly helpful, so I did not go.
Good luck to you all and congrats to those accepted.
I did contact Dr. Wilder last year to set up a meeting. If you do email him, expect a pretty long wait to hear anything back, and it will probably be from Dr. Morano responding on behalf of Dr. Wilder. Believe it or not, he told me via email that there was nothing wrong with my application and that a face to face meeting would not be particularly helpful, so I did not go.
Good luck to you all and congrats to those accepted.
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I am wondering the same thing. :/ Does anyone know?
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I am also very surprised, but hopefully you got into other schools. I personally would rather go to a school where I am welcomed and feel as if I am their top candidate. If you didn't get in this cycle, I would suggest applying to a broad selection of schools. UNC is not the only school in the universe! LOL.
You are right, diversify your applications. The more schools the more opportunities, especially with UNC accepting OOS people at a 22% level.
If you are in-state the real question for UNC administration is "Why so many OOS?" when there is a higher liklihood that these students will practice elsewhere? As well, in-state applicants must search for schools outside the state to satisfy their passion to be dentists. Why would they choose to come back and practice in a state that jilted them in favor of OOS candidates who may never elect to practice in NC? Simple logic that somehow is being overlooked.
At the same time, the state is having trouble finding dentists to practice in the eastern part of North Carolina? UNC could cut back their OOS offers to early year 2000 levels (12-16% and ask for some written commitments to the East and fully earn the $ allocated to them by the taxpayers as well as allow acceptance for some additional applicants.
If you are in-state the real question for UNC administration is "Why so many OOS?" when there is a higher liklihood that these students will practice elsewhere? As well, in-state applicants must search for schools outside the state to satisfy their passion to be dentists. Why would they choose to come back and practice in a state that jilted them in favor of OOS candidates who may never elect to practice in NC? Simple logic that somehow is being overlooked.
At the same time, the state is having trouble finding dentists to practice in the eastern part of North Carolina? UNC could cut back their OOS offers to early year 2000 levels (12-16% and ask for some written commitments to the East and fully earn the $ allocated to them by the taxpayers as well as allow acceptance for some additional applicants.
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I get the impression that your interviewers are not on the adcom and furthermore cannot do much more than give you an interview score. I was literally told by all my interviewers that I would make a great addition to the school and they hoped to see me again. Then to not even get waitlisted????? Wonder what the point of the interviews even are?
I know for a fact that is not true. Interviewers are on the adcom and do help determine who is selected.
From what I understand, the interviewers first give you a score. From these scores, the interviewers compare you to the other 8 or so students they interviewed. When the ADCOM meets, if your interviewer liked you, they will vouch for you and try to get votes from everyone else on the committee. Unfortunately, even though everyone is qualified, they cannot vouch for everyone they interview.
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You are 100% correct. I had the process explained by my interviewer today. Did you know that the student body then votes?? Or something to this effect. Both of my interviewers vouched for me and I still got denied!
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I'm trying not to take this personally, but it's difficult. When it is a battle of one person vs another, I know I met plenty of outstanding people at my one interview.
It's a shame, because I really loved everything about this school. Maybe I will go there for residency, who know.
It's a shame, because I really loved everything about this school. Maybe I will go there for residency, who know.
yeah it really just comes down to how well they can sell you to the committee, and luck.
I unfortunately was not accepted this cycle. I emailed Dr. Wilder on Thursday to see if I could meet to go over my application and ways to improve it some time, but I have not heard back from him. I've contacted him via email a couple times before and he was usually very good about getting back but I still have not heard anything. Just wondering if anyone else has emailed him about this type of thing and if you've heard anything? Also, should I email anyone else if I haven't heard from him soon?
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His reply time has always been directly proportional to the caliber of the question/request.
It will come though.
I emailed him as well. I am expecting a reply within a few weeks. It is expected of him because you've just emailed him at a height in the adcom schedule. its pretty much now and in june when they get bombarded with paperwork, things to do, and emails.
so sit tight, he'll get back to you. dont expect a quick reply.
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As far as I know, this is not accurate.
You are interviewed by 3 interviewers. They get together on the day of the interviews and talk about it. Then, a meeting occurs later where all the interviewers (minus some of the student interviewers) get together and select the first pool of acceptances (around late November). Then, after the January interview date, they meet again and select the last acceptances from the whole pool of interiewees.
That's it. Each applicant's complete application is considered along with his/her interviews, etc.
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+1 billion.
I'm not sure why a bunch of you guys think that the interviewers must 'argue' for their favorites out of the group of candidates they interviewed. That wouldn't make sense and wouldn't be fair to anyone.
The interviewers meet after the interview and give you an interview score.
Bottom Line is that by the time you get to interviews most candidates possess equal combinations of DATs, GPAs, and shadowing or experience to be virtually identical. If not, they shouldn't have been interviewed. Why waste everyone's time? We must trust that the university is being prudent in those standards?
The wild card is the interview where different groups of interviewers interpret your credentials, demeanor, and platform skills and then provide an interview score. There is objectivity for candidates where the questions and the reviewers are the same in interviewee comparisons. There is subjectivity where you were in a group that faced a different set of interviewers yet somehow the selection process attempts to standardize your score relative to someone who had a differerent panel of interviewers? Interviews by their nature are subjective, even when dealing with the same interviewer.
Just like interviewing for a job or overtrivializing and being judged in a beauty contest or political decision, many qualified candidates are rejected. Not because they couldn't be dentists but because it comes down to the numbers - only so many can be accepted and the interview cutoff criterion are, at best, perceptions. Some go on to be accepted in future years; some are accepted elsewhere and others never realize their dream though they were qualified. The truth is that many of today's interviewers and practicing dentists don't have the credentials of many of you and others who weren't afforded interviews?
The objective criterion make qualifying highly competitive and the subjective criterion (interviews) have no basis for standardization. You may not even face the same questions, certainly not the same interviewers. You will never make sense of the process as it will never be published and heresay and guesses will only frustrate you. If you qualified to interview then you are as good as any that have been accepted and quite a few who are practicing dentists (the historical student profiles prove that). I know that's no consolation but its the best I have to offer.
The wild card is the interview where different groups of interviewers interpret your credentials, demeanor, and platform skills and then provide an interview score. There is objectivity for candidates where the questions and the reviewers are the same in interviewee comparisons. There is subjectivity where you were in a group that faced a different set of interviewers yet somehow the selection process attempts to standardize your score relative to someone who had a differerent panel of interviewers? Interviews by their nature are subjective, even when dealing with the same interviewer.
Just like interviewing for a job or overtrivializing and being judged in a beauty contest or political decision, many qualified candidates are rejected. Not because they couldn't be dentists but because it comes down to the numbers - only so many can be accepted and the interview cutoff criterion are, at best, perceptions. Some go on to be accepted in future years; some are accepted elsewhere and others never realize their dream though they were qualified. The truth is that many of today's interviewers and practicing dentists don't have the credentials of many of you and others who weren't afforded interviews?
The objective criterion make qualifying highly competitive and the subjective criterion (interviews) have no basis for standardization. You may not even face the same questions, certainly not the same interviewers. You will never make sense of the process as it will never be published and heresay and guesses will only frustrate you. If you qualified to interview then you are as good as any that have been accepted and quite a few who are practicing dentists (the historical student profiles prove that). I know that's no consolation but its the best I have to offer.
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I was wait listed last year and accepted this year. I had a friend who had the same thing happen the year before, so I'm giving a combination of my advice and his. If you have additional references, it will only help to have those sent on your behalf - the sooner the better (in paper or by email or both). As far as the # of people on the list - this is information they do not divulge, so don't even ask. I was told the number has historically been between 2 and - if I remember correctly - 7 or 9 at the most that are actually offered a seat from the wait list. But, there are no guarantees. The number this year may be zero or higher than in the past. Making it on the list basically means that you were of the caliber they are looking for and barely missed the cut. As far as being given an offer, the latest they have ever done it was on the second or third day of classes (in August) when a student couldn't continue in the program any longer (for personal reasons). So, there is no magic date that you should have in your mind. For your sanity, your best move is to forget about the wait list and do whatever you can to improve your application for next year so that you will be above the cut. Also, apply earlier than everybody else - don't miss a beat! Early on in the spring, after everything has died down (give Dr. Wilder a break for a little while!), try to set up a meeting to come in to speak with Dr. Wilder and see if you can find out how you can improve your application. For me, it was retaking the DAT and increasing my shadowing hours. He is very kind, helpful, and easy to talk to. The things that to you stand out the most as having room for improvement, I would go ahead and start working on now. Then, you can tell him how you are improving your application, which also makes you look better should a seat open up (my understanding is that they reconsider each student on the wait list as opposed to having a ranked order of wait listed students they work through). Just show him what you are doing and ask if there are any other areas he would suggest improving on.
I can appreciate where you are. God bless!
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It is interesting that you say this. Obviously, when it comes to dental skills/knowledge, they are leagues more qualified than us.
However, I can't remember talking to a practicing dentist or faculty member (besides those that have graduated in the past 5-7 years) who had undergraduate research, volunteering, GPA, DAT scores, and shadowing experiences that today's candidates have.
More often its the "it wasn't that difficult to get into dental school", "I never shadowed", "No research here". In their defense, it wasn't necessary to have these qualifications in years past.
Let's just be thankful for those of us that are getting in now, no matter how hard it is. It terrifies me to imagine the statistics and extracurriculars you are going to need in another 15 years to get into dental school short of oral cancer treatment discoveries and African clinics built in your name.
Actually this isn't true. I met with Dr. Wilder last week and directly asked him this question...he looked through some documents for a minute or so and indicated the waitlist is approximately 30 people this year, but that it differs year to year. Yeah I know, I was very surprised as well.
I think what the OP was saying isn't that only 2-10 people are on the waitlist, but that only 2-10 people usually get in off the waitlist. Basically, the waitlist doesn't move much.
Question about background check after acceptance. After I have completed and passed the application station background check sent to me via email after I was accepted, do I only need to "release that information" or do I need to actually "distribute the report"? I just assumed that simply releasing the information would get it to UNC but I wanted to double check. Thanks!
I am pretty sure it will be released to the schools automatically.
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According to Dr. Everett: 1.) The interviewers are on the adcom. 2) The student who interviewed you is also part of the adcom when voting is concerned. 3) Your interviewers vouch for you if they like you. 4) Other members of the adcom who did not interview you cast a vote along with your interviewers.
Sorry if that student body thing was vague, I know it sounded like students were just willy nilly casting votes. The 4 items above are a fact confirmed by Dr. Wilder and Dr. Everett.
Sorry if that student body thing was vague, I know it sounded like students were just willy nilly casting votes. The 4 items above are a fact confirmed by Dr. Wilder and Dr. Everett.
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1 - Agreed.
2- You're getting a few things mixed up. Student adcom members aren't the same as the regular adcom members. Not all votes are equal. Not all student interviewers are student members of the committee. They are involved in the interview-day meeting that occurs for a single group of interviewees, however.
3 - Of course. That happens everywhere.
4 - Right. It's a committee that's larger than just the group who interviewed you.
I was on the committee - I'm trying to be helpful.
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Got a letter in the mail that I am an alternate. I stopped checking my status in December and I don't know what my chances are of getting in, but good luck to the rest of you who are still waiting!
HEY! every1 just wanted to say that yay I am an OOS and I got accepted! I interviewed in late January and got that amazing phone call like 3-4 weeks later! I thank God for it all. As of right now I think I am definitely going to UNC. I just wanted to connect with other ppl of the 2017 class. I am soo excited to meet every1😳😀😀
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HEY! every1 just wanted to say that yay I am an OOS and I got accepted! I interviewed in late January and got that amazing phone call like 3-4 weeks later! I thank God for it all. As of right now I think I am definitely going to UNC. I just wanted to connect with other ppl of the 2017 class. I am soo excited to meet every1😳😀😀
Congrats! I'm an OOS as well and just got the call in february 🙂 Definitely going to UNC too, and actually looking for a facebook group? Anyone know if there is one?! Excited to meet people and hopefully find some housing!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/289703134483338/
Try this. If that doesn't work you can search UNC Dental School Class of 2017. Congrats!
Try this. If that doesn't work you can search UNC Dental School Class of 2017. Congrats!
OOS
Where did u go to undergrad? Trying to figure out if that matters? Got into UNC, UVA, U F and some good privates with fabulous scholarships,trying to keep debt down. But If undergrad matters, might go UNC. I live in Fla.
Free or 48K per year for undergrad!
Where did u go to undergrad? Trying to figure out if that matters? Got into UNC, UVA, U F and some good privates with fabulous scholarships,trying to keep debt down. But If undergrad matters, might go UNC. I live in Fla.
Free or 48K per year for undergrad!
Hey everyone. I had a question about the immunization and medical forms for incoming first years. I went to UNC for undergrad and graduated in 2012, meaning I was not required to complete a online immunization form for UNC (since I am in the two year window). I did however have to get a couple of vaccines in order to get everything up to NC state standards. However, I was curious if I needed to get all of my updated immunization information from general campus health office over the Foretta Davis at the school of dentistry or if we only are required to send over the additional school of dentistry requirements by July 20th? The only reason I ask is because the wording in the acceptance pack seemed a little vague to me and I was unsure. Thanks!
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Great question. I may be wrong on this, but I think I had to submit everything to them. I also attended UNC undergrad, and was within the 2 year window, but I think when I called and asked, Ms. O'Conner (lady there before Ms. Davis) said that the student health computer systems and dental school systems couldn't talk to each other (University inefficiency at its best!!!). You may just want to give Ms. Davis a quick call and verify though--should be able to find her on the "people search" tool on the SoD website. Congrats on getting in, and enjoy the heck out of the summer!!!!
