The Under 3.0 Club part 02

[dmoney2010]

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You are an idiot!

And your ignorance represents the real danger to society...

👍👍👍
I truly wish that you were never accepted to any dental school. It is your elitist attitude that causes any professional to be viewed in a poor light. If someone is not capable of being a dentist they WILL BE WEEDED OUT in dental school, unfortunately it will just be an expensive mistake for the school as well as the student but no harm to society. So get off your high horse and start working hard so that maybe you can prove yourself to all who have succeeded before you.

 

[DrDientes]

I can't even really tell if LITTLEFRENCHMAN is being serious or not? Can someone be that ignorant to believe that someone with a low undergrad GPA can't be a good dentist? Wow😕 you need to really rethink that statement you're just making yourself look dumb

 

[peerless218]

No offense guys, but i wouldn't want my dentist to be an under 3.0 gpa, so i hope none of you get anywhere... You represent a danger for society.

Nothing personal

Don't you think that's a LITTLE too much dude??? To wish people not to get anywhere? Being BOOK smarts has nothing to do with having good hand skills. Dentistry really isn't rocket science, you don't need to be the smartest person in the world to prep teeth or even place an implants. but you DO need steady hands. Wow, that's really a rude comment to make there buddy.

 

[torque]

No offense guys, but i wouldn't want my dentist to be an under 3.0 gpa, so i hope none of you get anywhere... You represent a danger for society.

Nothing personal

seriously? danger for society? wow.

someone needs to get this littledouchebag's address and kick his nuts.

Nothing personal.

 

[saycheeese]

seriously? danger for society? wow.

someone needs to get this littledouchebag's address and kick his nuts.

Nothing personal.

👍 haha yes...nothing personal

 

[Gbrando2]

Hey littlefrenchie,
I noticed that your TS score is pretty damn good at a 23, but your AA is a 20. Does that mean you pulled like a 16 in both RC and QR? I don't know if I feel comfortable with my dentist having 2 DAT scores below average, especially when RC has been found by some to correlate best to performance on the board exams.

PS- West Side

 

[Tommy43087]

I cant even stay mad at the guy/girl/girly-guy, with a name like littlefrenchie who can stay mad?

 

[americanpierg]

guys dont take it personally, just ask yourself if you would want the surgeon who is going to operate you to have steady hands but a 2.5 GPA..???

what does undergrad GPA have to do with being a good surgeon? would you care if your gynecologist had a 2.0 gpa in elementary school? if your surgeon got a 2.5 in medical school, then sure, you can pull that arguement, but then they wouldnt have gotten into that competitive residency would they.

undergrad for premedical/predental students is worthless anyways. what do you learn in undergrad that is actually useful towards your career as a physician? Absolutely nothing. who gives a rat's @ss if you pull a 1.0 in undergrad but then came out with a 4.0 in medical school.

im pretty sure everyone hiring these college graduates right out of college don't give a crap that they got a 2.5 in highschool if their college grades are good.

 

[efitzger]

I had a 3.0 undergrad (10 years ago now), am currently applying for dental school, and plan on going into oral surgery (as my long term plan).

I'm confident I'll be an excellent surgeon once I receive the requisite education and training, undergrad gpa be damned. Undergrad GPA varies for a million reasons, and on it's own, is not a reliable indicator of one's competence or intelligence. It's certainly not a measure of a surgeon's potential. For me, immaturity was the culprit. At 17, I had no idea why I should be spending my time studying when there was a perfectly good concert piano located in a very nice concert hall to which I had the key...

I can hack dental school, and I can hack the rigors of surgery, even with my so-so 3.0 undergrad GPA! Tell me otherwise, and I'll prove you wrong.

what does undergrad GPA have to do with being a good surgeon? would you care if your gynecologist had a 2.0 gpa in elementary school? if your surgeon got a 2.5 in medical school, then sure, you can pull that arguement, but then they wouldnt have gotten into that competitive residency would they.

undergrad for premedical/predental students is worthless anyways. what do you learn in undergrad that is actually useful towards your career as a physician? Absolutely nothing. who gives a rat's @ss if you pull a 1.0 in undergrad but then came out with a 4.0 in medical school.

im pretty sure everyone hiring these college graduates right out of college don't give a crap that they got a 2.5 in highschool if their college grades are good.

 

[efitzger]

Is there some truth to that; the correlation between RC and boards? You and I both rocked that section with a 26!

Hey littlefrenchie,
I noticed that your TS score is pretty damn good at a 23, but your AA is a 20. Does that mean you pulled like a 16 in both RC and QR? I don't know if I feel comfortable with my dentist having 2 DAT scores below average, especially when RC has been found by some to correlate best to performance on the board exams.

PS- West Side

 

[alec0884]

No offense guys, but i wouldn't want my dentist to be an under 3.0 gpa, so i hope none of you get anywhere... You represent a danger for society.

Nothing personal

This must be the most ignorant guy applying to dental school this year......I hope he said that in his interview....

Anyway I like the comment about his AA, he really must not be able to read or do any math.....I think I rather have someone with a low gpa and better common sense then this ******bag.

 

[alec0884]

hey i found this guy's predents.....his ID: 7640, he got into NYU name: rasiel666 (some kind of satanist)

 

[Gbrando2]

Is there some truth to that; the correlation between RC and boards? You and I both rocked that section with a 26!

Dr. Kingsley at UNLV did a big study on it and found that RC was the score that correlated best with board scores. He wrote a paper on it, but I don't remember where it was published. That's why UNLV's ranking formula weighs the RC score so heavily.

 

[154930]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

 

[SuperTank]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

There are lots of people out there with excellent hand skills that lack the intellectual ability to become a competent dentist. It's just the cards they were dealt. They will excel in some other area. There are also many people out there that are extremely intelligent that would never cut it as a dentist. They will excel in some other area. To say that you hope nobody with a sub 3.0 GPA makes it to dental school is ridiculous. Yes, it's an important factor... but it is one of many factors. If schools just let people in based on manual dexterity, how many would lack the cognitive capabilities to actually succeed in school? Likewise, if they let people in based solely on prior academic performance (namely GPA) how many would discover they are not committed or interested in the field of dentistry and fail to complete the program? Didn't we all list a plethora of information on our applications? Personal Statement, LOR's, GPA, DAT scores, achievements, research, volunteer, job shadowing, etc etc etc? Didn't we all fill out secondaries with even more information? Didn't we all attend interviews to showcase ourselves and prove our dedication to dentistry? Why do dental schools even bother looking into this ENORMOUS quantity of information if they could simply say "If you're under 3.0, you're not in?" It's because they understand that a persons undergrad GPA alone is not a good factor to use in determining whether or not someone will be a successful dental student, and much more importantly, a successful dentist.

Hope that helps you understand why your comment offended so many people.

 

[bennijai]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

Think of it this way, your GPA is used as a filtering system and demonstrates some characteristics of the person in terms of academic discipline, knowledge, and background. So it is necessary to check the GPA of the applicant, but it doesn't make the dentist.

If all you have is a nice GPA you'll probably fail at dentistry. You're going to need social skills as well as a steady hand to be adept at what you do. The last two years of your dental program will be more clinical based so in some sense they do test your dexterity.

And your comment wasn't just a tease but it was offensive. Especially since you came into this thread to make such a strong statement like that. Be considerate of others, it's something you'll need to learn as a dentist too.

 

[efitzger]

Apology accepted if you mean it.

You're going to find edgy people here this time of year because we're waiting to see if this is 'our year' - or we have to bust ass again for another year just to get an interview/ acceptance...I currently work 50+ hours a week, am taking 8 credits at night, and supporting my family after my dad went through heart surgery. Do I think I deserve a shot with my 3.0 avg? Yes.

GPA's are one measure of a person's ability to dedicate themselves to something. You don't get a 4.0 doing nothing. Then again, there are plenty of truly brilliant folks out there who goofed off in college and were lucky to break the 3.0 mark. That doesn't mean they're not every bit as capable of becoming a dentist, physician, etc. as someone who showed a little more discipline during undergrad and graduated with a better GPA.

Honestly, I want to go to dental school where the overall package trumps one 'measure', as it's been my experience that often the most interesting stories like between unassuming covers.

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

 

[alec0884]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

were you really just teasing? (doesn't sound like it).....I would recommend that you consider your comments as being entirely tasteless....your lack of humility and sincerity is obvious in every post and your *******t of an apology I'm sure didn't alleviate anyone's feeling toward you.

Do you really believe that you will be pulling from any of the Orgo or other undergraduate classes as a dentist. GPA is a means of screening candidates, while not perfect, it is the most applicable considering most all of us are finishing a 4 year college program. Your attitude is not helping the stigma of your country and I would hope you adjust it as you go through dental school.

I DO hope you become a good dentist, but like most of us believe, nothing you have done in a lecture hall will guarantee that.

 

[alec0884]

I think i found our boy "frenchy"

http://rasiel666.cocoloop.com/\

maybe not............but i like to think so

 

[bennijai]

This is the same french dude that said schools are accepting more minorities because they can treat their own race better...the guy doesn't know where to stop.

 

[nicz888]

guys keep up the good work and you will reach your goal one day.
and please ignore anyone who try to bash your dream.

 

[torque]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

Dental schools look at GPA as one of the indicators that a student may succeed in their schools and that's why they use GPA as their filtering tools. That does NOT mean however, having a high GPA would necessarily make a good dentist.
A good dentist should possess lots of things and skills, but I don't think having a good undergrad GPA constitutes as a qualification for good dentist.

There are many people who have English as their second, or third language even and score high on RC (myself included). So that doesn't make an excuse for your low RC score.

You were a douchebag coming in here to say that you hope none of us gets into dental school.

oh anyway, don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i hurt u. donkey arsehole.

 

[peerless218]

Wooooow, i think i made this popular with my comment.
I actually got accepted to nyu, usc, nova, and columbia 🙂
regarding my rc score, i indeed got a 17 :-/ (as my nickname indicates it, English is my third language, nevertheless got 2 A's in ENG comp and lit)

anyway, guys don't take this too seriously, I was just teasing, and please forgive me if i've hurt anyone...

Having said that, can anyone tell me why gpa matters so much in your dental app, if really what matters most to be a good dentist is to have steady hands?
Maybe, they should test students on their dexterity rather than on their academic achievement...

Well you have to take account that A LOT if people in undergrad works FULL time. It's great that others have the ability to balance both school and work. However, some people just can't deal with all those all together, that's why their grades took a hit. A lot of people do well in dental school with below 3.0 undergrad GPA because now that's the ONLY aspect they have to deal with in dental school. I know people who barely got a 3 in undergrad, but it's now top 10% of his class. Stats aren't everyhthing, you can't just judge someone purely on their numbers. It's just unfair...

What do you call the person who grdauted last of his/her class? A doctor...
What do you call the person who got into dental school with a 2.8GPA? A dental student

 

[ustacould22]

Hey everyone,

I'm only a sophomore in my undergrad work but my sci gpa so far is around a 2.7 with cum. gpa about 3.25. I was wondering though how much dental schools look in to your extracurricular activities? Also would going 5 years for my undergrad work really hurt my chances of being accepted?

 

[ballsin2win]

I was in the same boat. I had a gpa below 3.0. I did a Post-Bac Program and got a 3.5. I got into 2 dental schools already.

My question is, if you can't get above a 3.0 in undergrad, what makes you think you will do any better in dental school. You just need to get real serious about your gpa. Just think of how much money you would waste in dental school only to realize that you aren't fit for it.

 

[nextuszerodmd]

I was in the same boat. I had a gpa below 3.0. I did a Post-Bac Program and got a 3.5. I got into 2 dental schools already.

My question is, if you can't get above a 3.0 in undergrad, what makes you think you will do any better in dental school. You just need to get real serious about your gpa. Just think of how much money you would waste in dental school only to realize that you aren't fit for it.

during my sophmore year in college i had a 2.7 GPA overall. i never did a post-bacc and currently i'm a second year in dental school. i have an over GPA of 3.75......

people make mistakes......

 

[ustacould22]

yes i'll admit i've been a bit lazy so far and balancing both athletics and school took some time to get used to. thats why i was curious as to what weight is put on extracurricular activities and if taking a redshirt for sports would hurt my acceptance chances because my workload would be less rigorous over five years.

 

[Impulse155]

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GPA's are one measure of a person's ability to dedicate themselves to something. You don't get a 4.0 doing nothing. Then again, there are plenty of truly brilliant folks out there who goofed off in college and were lucky to break the 3.0 mark. That doesn't mean they're not every bit as capable of becoming a dentist, physician, etc. as someone who showed a little more discipline during undergrad and graduated with a better GPA.

This paragraph basically sums me up. I can study like crazy for a test and ill know everything up to the test however I just finished gen chem and only gotg a B in it. Meanwhile the day before I was able to ace the practice exams. Some people are just not good test takers, or dont perform well knowing that 3 tests make up your grade. (in my biology class, we have 4 tests, 1 gets dropped, and the last is a final, attendence isnt mandatory for hte class, no participation. 100% based off grades). Its all about know what material to study.
And then as for becoming a dentist, hell right now if you put me and a pre dental student in a room together I could definately out-perform them with my current knowledge. Ive worked in my moms dental office since I was like 10 (used to clean my dads teeth). Now I take x-rays, make molds, as well as make bleach trays for them. I also volunteer at an oral surgeon who is a professor at Columbia dental school.
So in the end, what does everything come down to? GPA. And the fact that stony brook doesnt replace grades, they average together ;\
Bryan

 

[Doctor Thriller]

This is the same french dude that said schools are accepting more minorities because they can treat their own race better...the guy doesn't know where to stop.

While I don't agree with frenchie's other comments, I do agree with this one. Think about it, if you are white you most likely go to a white physician/dentist and if your black you are most likely going to a black physician/dentist. Most people feel more comfortable around professionals of their same kind and culture. This is not a political issue but just a fact. With that said, why do yall think minorities have a slight edge on getting accepted into certain D schools than other majority races? this reason.

 

[nextuszerodmd]

This paragraph basically sums me up. I can study like crazy for a test and ill know everything up to the test however I just finished gen chem and only gotg a B in it. Meanwhile the day before I was able to ace the practice exams. Some people are just not good test takers, or dont perform well knowing that 3 tests make up your grade. (in my biology class, we have 4 tests, 1 gets dropped, and the last is a final, attendence isnt mandatory for hte class, no participation. 100% based off grades). Its all about know what material to study.
And then as for becoming a dentist, hell right now if you put me and a pre dental student in a room together I could definately out-perform them with my current knowledge. Ive worked in my moms dental office since I was like 10 (used to clean my dads teeth). Now I take x-rays, make molds, as well as make bleach trays for them. I also volunteer at an oral surgeon who is a professor at Columbia dental school.
So in the end, what does everything come down to? GPA. And the fact that stony brook doesnt replace grades, they average together ;\
Bryan

you're right. it isn't about grades. it's about having connections and being hooked up early in life (having parents as dentists).....👎

 

[SayWordSon]

Hey all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. This site has been very helpful to me in my pursuit of Dentistry and I figured I would give back with a bit of optimism.

After I applied to Dental School I discovered this forum and started lurking. I know each applicant is different, but here is my story. The main reason I post this is to show the "average joe" who may be/will be in my position that they can get in.

Undergraduate University: UCLA (class of 2009)
cGPA: 3.11
sGPA: 2.99
post-bacc/masters GPA: N/A
AA: 18 TS: 18 PAT: 19
Shadowing: ~125 hours
EC's: Research, Community involvement, no leadership positions.
Date AADSAS submitted: 10/02/09

So those are the stats, which are below many of the members at this forum. For the record, I am not a URM.

So far I have interviewed at Temple (Dec. 3) and ASDOH (Dec. 10) and have Jan. interviews at Tufts and UOP. I have been accepted at both Temple and ASDOH.

I don't want to come off as an e-bragger, just let all the applicants know that it is possible. After reading parts (not all) of this forum I began to get down because I felt I did not compare statistically with most of the members and would have to re-apply. But I applied late, with below average stats and was able to not only get interviews but acceptances. I wish the best for you all, especially in this thread because I can relate so strongly with what you guys are going through.

Keep pushin, it will all work out.

 

[skylark]

wow saywordson, im soooo jealous! congratulations! what do you think made you stand out? because not to be mean, you're more of a "below average joe".

 

[SayWordSon]

Lol, you're right man, "below average joe" is definitely more accurate.

But as fas as standing out, I think one thing may have been my choice of emphasis. I want to work in community dentistry, and I dont know if this makes me "stand out" but I think it may have helped differentiate me a bit.

Also, I think with low stats getting an interview is the hardest part. Because once you are at the interview it is as if you are equal to all the other applicants statistically. Now it is just time to be yourself and let the adcom see your personality. I think having that mentality helped me to relax, knowing that although everyone here has much higher stats than me that I have the opportunity to stand out.

 

[HopefulDDStobe]

Hi Everyone,

this is a great thread, i have been reading it just to give myself some hopes.

I am borderline below 3.0, my current stat is cgpa 3.25 sgpa 2.97 and non science ( does that even matter? ) is 3.5. I am really borderline, right now im just thinking about my options. I have one more semester, I did not take DAT yet, but like other people I am "planning" to do well, but easier said than done, right? Im still hopeful though. Most of my EC are dental related since I am a dental hygienist, so I have tons of volunteer and work experiences as a hygienist mostly serving the low income population. I still want to be a dentist but boy why is it so hard to get there?????

I feel like im almost there, working with patients, educating people, keeping up with dental education, etc but yet my academic performance hinder me to be where I wanna be. Gosh what is wrong with my studying habit! I know I can do it, but man, don't you feel you just wanna give up sometimes?

..but thanks to this thread. Lets do this, guys!

 

[HopefulDDStobe]

Hey all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. This site has been very helpful to me in my pursuit of Dentistry and I figured I would give back with a bit of optimism.

After I applied to Dental School I discovered this forum and started lurking. I know each applicant is different, but here is my story. The main reason I post this is to show the "average joe" who may be/will be in my position that they can get in.

Undergraduate University: UCLA (class of 2009)
cGPA: 3.11
sGPA: 2.99
post-bacc/masters GPA: N/A
AA: 18 TS: 18 PAT: 19
Shadowing: ~125 hours
EC's: Research, Community involvement, no leadership positions.
Date AADSAS submitted: 10/02/09

So those are the stats, which are below many of the members at this forum. For the record, I am not a URM.

So far I have interviewed at Temple (Dec. 3) and ASDOH (Dec. 10) and have Jan. interviews at Tufts and UOP. I have been accepted at both Temple and ASDOH.

I don't want to come off as an e-bragger, just let all the applicants know that it is possible. After reading parts (not all) of this forum I began to get down because I felt I did not compare statistically with most of the members and would have to re-apply. But I applied late, with below average stats and was able to not only get interviews but acceptances. I wish the best for you all, especially in this thread because I can relate so strongly with what you guys are going through.

Keep pushin, it will all work out.

o hey, btw your stat is similar to mine, well I didnt take the DAT yet, but I was thinking of doing postbacc, or I should just shoot straight for D school huh? aside from serving the community, is there anything else that helped you stand out? did you invent something?? lol.

Thanks, this gives me hope.

 

[MikeG4936]

First of all, I just want to say THANK YOU to all the contributors to this thread, just lurking here for the past hour gave me TONS of motivation.

Here I am, beginning the last semester of my Undergruadate senior year looking for advice on where to start the "reparation" process. 😕

I have a 2.7 cGPA and a 2.9 sGPA. I have not yet taken the DAT, but I have taken the Kaplan DAT course. I plan on buying Destroyer and studying that next semester.I have 400 hours working in an Ortho office and plan on starting work in a dental clinic this summer.

Most of the posts in this thread seem to suggest that a post-bac program would be best for people in my position. Essentially, I need to show the school that I can "cut it" in a lecture/classroom environment. Right now, I'm trying to hammer out a solid game plan for next year, and I am still uncertain as to what I should be doing academically. Is post-bac definitely what I should be looking at for next year?

THANKS AGAIN!!!👍

 

[supermax]

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[coolslugs]

Ok guys I got my first acceptance letter. I had 2.90 science GPA and cGPA 3.02. Currently doing MS program, I maintained 3.5 first semester of graduate program. I had one bad year due to my health and financial conditions. I apologize about my English, its not my first language.

Congrats!! That's great news. Where did you get accepted and when did you apply/interview?

 

[supermax]

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[efitzger]

👍 Congrats. You earned it.

I applied in August, got interviewed in late October.

 

[SayWordSon]

I did not invent anything, although I have my ideas (watch out for pants with built in knee pads *e-patented* lol).

But as far as standing out, the only other advantages I think I had are:

1) Undergraduate Univiersity: I went to UCLA, which I think is a relatively competitive school, so I think that may have deflated my GPA a bit. This may be something adcoms looked at.

2) Upbringing: I am from a "low income" family. I don't think this is the same as being a URM, but it couldn't hurt.

3) Upward Academic Trend: My first two years of college were rough on me (2.5ish) but my final two years I was able to consistently earn 3.4-3.7 GPAs.

Hope this helps, please let me know if I can help in any other way...

o hey, btw your stat is similar to mine, well I didnt take the DAT yet, but I was thinking of doing postbacc, or I should just shoot straight for D school huh? aside from serving the community, is there anything else that helped you stand out? did you invent something?? lol.

Thanks, this gives me hope.

 

[SayWordSon]

Oh 1 more thing...

I authored a publication my senior year. I know not all schools value research experience the same, but that is an additional resume builder (for what it's worth).

 

[uclaDDS101]

1) Undergraduate Univiersity: I went to UCLA, which I think is a relatively competitive school, so I think that may have deflated my GPA a bit. This may be something adcoms looked at.

On the contrary, I always considered GPAs at UCLA to be inflated. Did you get the impression from adcomms that they considered UCLA to have gpa deflation?

Oh 1 more thing...

I authored a publication my senior year. I know not all schools value research experience the same, but that is an additional resume builder (for what it's worth).

Just curious.. what department was your research in? Dentistry?

 

[SayWordSon]

On the contrary, I always considered GPAs at UCLA to be inflated. Did you get the impression from adcomms that they considered UCLA to have gpa deflation?

That is the first time I have heard UCLA and grade inflation in the same sentence. Maybe your experience was unique, but I have heard from countless UCLA students and staff that due to the public school grade quotas etc that earning high grades at UCLA is something you definitely have to earn. As far as adcomms, both interviews have mentioned UCLA and seemed impressed by it.

Just curious.. what department was your research in? Dentistry?

My research was done in human genetics. It was actually atherosclerosis research lol, so not too close to dentistry.

 

[pogue]

I am a non-traditional student. Wife, kids, all that stuff. I want to put my stats on here so you all know where I am coming from.

This is a straight up copy and paste of my GPA from ADEA 2010. Post continues after the fold...

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BCP 2.37
Science 2.27
Non-Science 2.65
Total 2.37
Repeated Hours: 13.34
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I want everyone to pay particular attention to the "repeated hours". I took Organic I and II twice... each. Both were failed and repeated for a D. I took calculus and failed. Retook and got a B. That marked the end of my first attempt at professional school, and it accounts for the majority of my repeated work.

I took the DAT this summer and scored, shall we say, astonishingly average. Take a peek:
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Academic Average: 17
Perceptual Ability: 18
Quantitative Reasoning: 17
Reading Comprehension: 21
Biology: 17
General Chemistry: 15
Organic Chemistry: 16
Total Science: 16
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I applied to one school. I know I won't get an interview, because their cutoff for Total Science is 17.

I am currently in a M.S. program and doing better than most of the others in my program. I attribute this to the fact that I am 10 years older than most of them, and I study like the future of my kids depends on it (which, financially, it does).

Sometime around Christmas of next year I will post my acceptance letter for the matriculating class of 2011.

Good luck to my fellow underachievers for this application cycle. Make the rest of us "dummies" proud. 😀

So that school that I wrote off? I'm interviewing the 1st week in February. Based on my portfolio, I can only assume that my personal statement was outstanding.

I'm going in and laying it all on the table. I have nothing to lose, and I am pumped up to at least have a shot! 🙂

 

[Futuredds2010]

So that school that I wrote off? I'm interviewing the 1st week in February. Based on my portfolio, I can only assume that my personal statement was outstanding.

I'm going in and laying it all on the table. I have nothing to lose, and I am pumped up to at least have a shot! 🙂

OMG WOW! I am so happy for you!!!

 

[punkin85]

So that school that I wrote off? I'm interviewing the 1st week in February. Based on my portfolio, I can only assume that my personal statement was outstanding.

I'm going in and laying it all on the table. I have nothing to lose, and I am pumped up to at least have a shot! 🙂

Hey...what school did you get your interview at? That's awesome for you!

 

[DrDientes]

I got an interview invite today for UCSF. If I got an interview any of you that don't think you can, just know that it is possible if you really work hard for and be honest in your personal statements and your whole application.

 

[HopefulDDStobe]

I got an interview invite today for UCSF. If I got an interview any of you that don't think you can, just know that it is possible if you really work hard for and be honest in your personal statements and your whole application.

Congrats! best of luck to you!
Do you mind if I ask what you stat is? or is it on predents.com? What are the things that made you stand out more? Im applying for 2011 cycle, and Im nervous because of my GPA, but im doing it anyway.
Good luck!!

 

[DrDientes]

My GPA 2.85 sGPA 2.75 DAT: AA:20 TS:22 PAT:21 Played a College Sport. Good Hours of shadowing and alot of community service hours. Don't know what made me stand out I am just as surprised to get an interview as other people on here probably will be. I also applied late, application was submitter in late september, but not complete until November