Thinking About Quitting Anesthesia Residency

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I see no point to this thread. Can you guys please shut it down.

Cambie



I never thought that was a good reason to close a thread. There's no point to most threads here. While you're at it, I'd close the thread about gum chewing, hangovers, fake cell phones, farts, jokes, and any thread asking strangers to arrange someone else's ROL.

Then our forum will be like every other residency subforum- BORING!

If there is no interest, then no one posts.
 
I never thought that was a good reason to close a thread. There's no point to most threads here. While you're at it, I'd close the thread about gum chewing, hangovers, fake cell phones, farts, jokes, and any thread asking strangers to arrange someone else's ROL.

Then our forum will be like every other residency subforum- BORING!

If there is no interest, then no one posts.

Agree.
 
when you're THE ONE that has to make real clinical decisions (not how much prop to push in a healthy 24 year old for an LMA) and take full responsibility for them, you'll see how "algorithmic" it is. the reason you don't actually know how much you don't know or how much responsibility you will have is because you are a ca1. you may get a feel of what it's like to be an attending sometime in your ca3 year.

the attending doesn't just push drugs and signs charts - he actually approves and monitors the complete scope of a midlevel's practice. CRNAs are so used to this that they think they are practicing without supervision. right. as soon as **** hits the fan, or there is an upper level management question (a patient with a T3 cord lesion and and morbid obesity with difficult airway comes for a cystoscopy...) the attending is the one who is there to BACK THEM UP. she is the LAST LINE OF DEFENSE.

i wouldn't call a NURSE getting 150k/yr for 36 hour workweeks (while many MDs make substantially less) as "getting raped" either.

as far as being "sure that this will lead to a good end" - you can't be sure of ANYTHING IN LIFE. yea, there is a chance that gas salaries will get hit and you'll be making 150k/yr. yep, has happened before. there is a chance that you may have a difficulty finding a job, because the entire country has converted to ONLY nursing anesthesia. or maybe a version of the McGill anesthesia machine that just does everything electronically. once the cuts hit, trust me rads is not going to make 500k/yr for suggesting to clinically correlate. \


what is more likely however, is that:
1. you will always have a job, regardless of economy or country of residence
2. you will always make enough money to lead at least a middle class life
3. residency sucks more than most things and once you're an attending you will develop relationships with surgeons, as well as mutual respect
4. CRNAs will not get completely independent practice in states that believe in evolution/have populations >5 million and put all MDs out of business.
5. this is one specialty i which you can do a 1 year fellowship in:
a. peds - nurses will NEVER be allowed to touch kids in most of US
b. ICU - nurses will NEVER supervise an ICU
c. cardiac - nurses will NEVER get TEE
d. pain - nurses will NE...well, i hope not.
e. OBs will never let a CRNA manage anesthesia on their floors

Thank you for this post
 
There is absolutely no need for a study.
What the nurses do is called "Nurse Anesthesia" it is basically the administration of anesthetics ordered by a physician.
What we do is called Anesthesiology, it is a medical field that includes all the aspects of perioperative medicine, critical care and pain management.
Comparing a medical specialty to what nurses do is inappropriate and therefor can not be studied.
There are new nurses who were mislead by their leadership and told that they are going to be comparable to physicians, these are the same nurses that call their training "residency" and claim that they can do everything a physician can do.
Most of them usually change their attitude after a couple of years of practice and come back to planet earth.


Im only a pre med student.... Microbiology/Spanish @ USF in Tampa, FL. I served 6 yrs in the military and now im out chasing my dreams living off my educational benefits and going to school... Since i can remember i wanted to be a doc.... never anything else... my aunt went to the army and came back a nurse... i used to always say to her "why be a nurse when you can be a doc" she would always say that she didnt want the responsibility....

Being a do has been a consistent desire recently turned obsession in my life... first i wanted to be a vet... my mother owns a pet grooming business... ok typical... then ob gyn... i saw my baby cousins being born.. one of the most amazing things i had ever seen... then i had some growth under my arm when i was abt 22 i think... the md injected me with something.. i couldnt feel a thing... and he go rid of it... i didnt get to see the procedure bc it was under my arm... but i simply thought it was amazing that i was sceduled for surgery.. and was numbed and was out the same day... but what amazed me was how the medication or drug he gave me... in minutes i didnt feel a thing in that area... woooow.... i have aways been into meds and drug and how they affect the body...i was thinking pharmacy... but i want the interaction with the or andthe patients... with anesthesiology i can get it all.... i could b in the Ob wards... OR... everywhere.... (to satisfy the animal thing...i got 2 dogs lol)

I hear so much about the field being downsized and so forth but i dont care... i want to have a career not a job.. i want to do something that im in love with doing... so when i come home from work im fulfilled...

i guess what im getting at is... this thread almost discouraged me... really it did... but when i get there... to where you are... and im going through the same things you go through..ill look back at all the times i went to the hospitals and turned into jello when the DR came in.... all the times in the AF when i was just bored with life...all the hours i spent on forum after forum researching med schools and majors... everytime i would sneak and try on my aunt's white coat and pretend i was making a break through diagnosis...everytime i would bite someone's head off in defense when they complain abt their MD and how he knows nothing....everytime i get sick to my stomach during registration when see i have to take chemistry... and i say to myself(eh..maybe next semester)... WHen i get where you are... im going to say... YEEEAAAAHHHH BAABBBYY this is what this is all about!! every one of those moments led up to this!!!!
I feel u really enjoy anesthesiology.... dont let it get to you.... take a breakdurin one of your breaks and reflecton all yur hard work.. your kids...wht kind of a future you want for them... our wife and how you wanna provide for her.. and lastly.... your love of medicine.... and enjoy every minute of it.... SURVIVE THE EXPERIENCE! What anesthesiologists do is relieve the pain.. for surgeries...procedures...chronic pain or what have you... unfortunately...and ironically... youre gonna have to feel the pain... to get through this... there is no pill... or epidural... you can give yourself to not feel pain... i wih there was... bc you sound very sad... just know that I think anyone whohas made it past medical school is a genius.... INTO med school for that matter... and that i believe in you.. and i hope to share your profession with you one day... why wouldyou feel less of a person.... You have a degree... youre a medical scientist...youra loving husband and father....or future father... you are far from that.... you are far from being a lower life form.... stay strong... survive the experience...live the dream....
 
Sorry for the typos... i was semi in the dark.... and im still getting used to this new laptop keyboard...really im smart guys lol... i can spell very well in BOTH languages.... lol
 
Sorry for the typos... i was semi in the dark.... and im still getting used to this new laptop keyboard...really im smart guys lol... i can spell very well in BOTH languages.... lol

many threads have been written regarding this, however, in summary, most of your reasons for becoming a physician are flawed. you seem to have absolutely NO idea what this process is all about and what it requires. why don't you pass chemistry first, before telling a resident to hang in there.

i wish you best of luck, but, it is exactly your type of naive, starry-eyed type optimistic opinion that the OP was NOT attempting to elicit.
 
Im only a pre med student.... Microbiology/Spanish @ USF in Tampa, FL. I served 6 yrs in the military and now im out chasing my dreams living off my educational benefits and going to school... Since i can remember i wanted to be a doc.... never anything else... my aunt went to the army and came back a nurse... i used to always say to her "why be a nurse when you can be a doc" she would always say that she didnt want the responsibility....

Being a do has been a consistent desire recently turned obsession in my life... first i wanted to be a vet... my mother owns a pet grooming business... ok typical... then ob gyn... i saw my baby cousins being born.. one of the most amazing things i had ever seen... then i had some growth under my arm when i was abt 22 i think... the md injected me with something.. i couldnt feel a thing... and he go rid of it... i didnt get to see the procedure bc it was under my arm... but i simply thought it was amazing that i was sceduled for surgery.. and was numbed and was out the same day... but what amazed me was how the medication or drug he gave me... in minutes i didnt feel a thing in that area... woooow.... i have aways been into meds and drug and how they affect the body...i was thinking pharmacy... but i want the interaction with the or andthe patients... with anesthesiology i can get it all.... i could b in the Ob wards... OR... everywhere.... (to satisfy the animal thing...i got 2 dogs lol)

I hear so much about the field being downsized and so forth but i dont care... i want to have a career not a job.. i want to do something that im in love with doing... so when i come home from work im fulfilled...

i guess what im getting at is... this thread almost discouraged me... really it did... but when i get there... to where you are... and im going through the same things you go through..ill look back at all the times i went to the hospitals and turned into jello when the DR came in.... all the times in the AF when i was just bored with life...all the hours i spent on forum after forum researching med schools and majors... everytime i would sneak and try on my aunt's white coat and pretend i was making a break through diagnosis...everytime i would bite someone's head off in defense when they complain abt their MD and how he knows nothing....everytime i get sick to my stomach during registration when see i have to take chemistry... and i say to myself(eh..maybe next semester)... WHen i get where you are... im going to say... YEEEAAAAHHHH BAABBBYY this is what this is all about!! every one of those moments led up to this!!!!
I feel u really enjoy anesthesiology.... dont let it get to you.... take a breakdurin one of your breaks and reflecton all yur hard work.. your kids...wht kind of a future you want for them... our wife and how you wanna provide for her.. and lastly.... your love of medicine.... and enjoy every minute of it.... SURVIVE THE EXPERIENCE! What anesthesiologists do is relieve the pain.. for surgeries...procedures...chronic pain or what have you... unfortunately...and ironically... youre gonna have to feel the pain... to get through this... there is no pill... or epidural... you can give yourself to not feel pain... i wih there was... bc you sound very sad... just know that I think anyone whohas made it past medical school is a genius.... INTO med school for that matter... and that i believe in you.. and i hope to share your profession with you one day... why wouldyou feel less of a person.... You have a degree... youre a medical scientist...youra loving husband and father....or future father... you are far from that.... you are far from being a lower life form.... stay strong... survive the experience...live the dream....

Now, I have a headache.
 
Wow, so nobody bows down to your knowledge and skill as a CA-1 and they dont let you do all the really complex cases? Seriously? You have to start at the bottom dude. You dont know **** yet, but you expect everyone to throw a party when you arrive? Really? If youre ego is this big you need to move on, go see how much respect a surgery yr 1 gets from those same surgeons! NONE. Surgeons are notorious ashats until you prove yourself to them. Also for the record you smack of a huge TROLL, but I thought i would be nice and give you the benefit of the doubt.🙂
 
many threads have been written regarding this, however, in summary, most of your reasons for becoming a physician are flawed. you seem to have absolutely NO idea what this process is all about and what it requires. why don't you pass chemistry first, before telling a resident to hang in there.

i wish you best of luck, but, it is exactly your type of naive, starry-eyed type optimistic opinion that the OP was NOT attempting to elicit.


Wow you actualy dont know WHAT my reasons are.... i only told you WHY i was interested in anesthesiology.. and chemistry i havent taken at the college level yet.... ive never failed... and my curent gpa is a 3.9.... to be honest ... i cant believe judgement was passed so quickly on me... wow... didnt say anything negative at all about anyone.... and this is what i get? wow.... If ou actually knew me... u would know I have the starry eyed approach to almost everything in life....everyone doesnt look at all thing as if its a human body or a question on the mcat.. i actually have a personality...besides the fact that im intelligent. to be honest... it seems that OP as some other issues elsewhere.. he has a wife who supports him... he got through alot so far and he is complaining about the douche bag people he works with who probably are worthless other than the fact that they possess a degree... life is all about attitude... and if i was a hooker on the streets and read this post io would still have the right to tell him he shouldnt give up....

WHEN i become a doctor... i will take great pleasure in knowing that the pricks like you will be to my left and my right instead of over me....Ive been in contact with ALOT OF DOCS bc im an lpn... and i notice the ones with the egos are not the dinosaurs.... the ones who have been in the game...its the one who think they have a little experience.... OOOHHH woooowww ur so special....

And bc of the rude comments... ill continue to be a lurker....maybe even close my account... wow, no wonder the world has such a negative attitude about life.... ad the people in it....
 
many threads have been written regarding this, however, in summary, most of your reasons for becoming a physician are flawed. you seem to have absolutely NO idea what this process is all about and what it requires. why don't you pass chemistry first, before telling a resident to hang in there.

i wish you best of luck, but, it is exactly your type of naive, starry-eyed type optimistic opinion that the OP was NOT attempting to elicit.


And also....aside from actually going to a medical school and obtaining a residency...etc.. im sure i know as mush as you do i not more abt the process and the requirements....

Im disgusted by you and the ***** with a headache, dont forget where you came from.... some time ago you were just like me... with a plan and a passion for medicine.... unless youre a trustfund baby who came from a dynasty of mds.
 
And also....aside from actually going to a medical school and obtaining a residency...etc.. im sure i know as mush as you do i not more abt the process and the requirements....

Im disgusted by you and the ***** with a headache, dont forget where you came from.... some time ago you were just like me... with a plan and a passion for medicine.... unless youre a trustfund baby who came from a dynasty of mds.

Blah blah blah. Learn how to type.
 
Sorry for the typos... i was semi in the dark.... and im still getting used to this new laptop keyboard...really im smart guys lol... i can spell very well in BOTH languages.... lol

While I'm sure you know how to capitalize and use only one period at a time, keep in mind that this board is full of professionals with advanced degrees. Some people here can get away with sloppy writing because their knowledge and experience are evident, and some do it deliberately for emphasis or comic effect. Premed noobs aren't going to get the same benefit of the doubt. This place is very informal and no one's going to try to enforce grammar standards, but be aware that you're not going to be taken seriously when you write like a kid.
 
While all the ellipses do kinda make my head hurt, I think Alexxus makes a valid point. It's pretty easy when you're in medical school (and I presume residency) to get down on yourself, because you're surrounded by so many driven and successful people who make it look so easy (on the outside). And by people whose job it is to put you down either for your own good or for theirs. It's even easier to forget that 95% (at least a majority) of the population will still look up to you as a physician and respects you for your hard work, intelligence, and (occasionally) compassion.

I've also become increasingly frustrated with people criticizing others' reasons for going into medicine. What's the right reason? To help people? To make money? To get your ego stroked? Because it's interesting? Mommy and Daddy expected you to? I've seen people do it for all of the above. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter why you do it as long as you get what you want out of it. She'll find out if she's going to get what she wants out of medicine soon enough, she doesn't need anyone questioning her motivations.
 
[speaking to Jeff05] im sure i know as mush as you do i not more abt the process and the requirements

Oh boy.

some time ago you were just like me...

No, not really. That's the point.

First, you're a nontraditional premed. That alone makes you different - much different - from 90% of us.

Second, your writing is atrocious. None of us write like that. When I was an undergrad, one of the lame duties I got suckered into as part of some ongoing research was TAing the lab portion of the PI's neuroscience course. It was almost entirely premeds, and most of them were applying to medical school that year on the same cycle as me. Most of the lab projects were group efforts so nearly everyone was turning in the same data. It was still obvious which ones were wasting their AMCAs money because their sloppy presentations and inability to write clearly marked them as careless or clueless. I wish Vegas would've taken my bets on who'd still be waiting for their first interview invitation when the class ended in December.

Don't underestimate how important the ability to communicate clearly and effectively with other professionals is. To this day I have to endure email correspondence with people who write like you do. Oddly enough, none of them are doctors.

And again, that's the point.


WholeLottaGame7 said:
she doesn't need anyone questioning her motivations.

I agree. Let he who never thought of the chicks, money, power, and chicks cast the first stone. I firmly believe that the vast majority of matriculating medical students have no idea what they're getting themselves into. I didn't.
 
I firmly believe that the vast majority of matriculating medical students have no idea what they're getting themselves into. I didn't.

Haha who does? There is nothing that CAN prepare you for what you're getting yourself into. I presume that's one of the few advantages being a doctor's kid would be, is that you have a better idea of the lifestyle. Barring that, I think all premeds are just varying degrees of uninformed; for sure I was. But it's turned out alright so far.

As for the grammar/spelling, I agree it reflects poorly, but then again it's just an internet forum. Blade has his crazy user-unfriendly cut and paste antics, militaryMD goes off on his borderline psychotic rants, and tons of people swear like drunken sailors, but I don't presume they act the same way in the OR (or maybe some of them do). And then some people are unnecessarily anal about punctuation/grammar like me. To each their own.
 
Haha who does? There is nothing that CAN prepare you for what you're getting yourself into. I presume that's one of the few advantages being a doctor's kid would be, is that you have a better idea of the lifestyle. Barring that, I think all premeds are just varying degrees of uninformed; for sure I was. But it's turned out alright so far.

As for the grammar/spelling, I agree it reflects poorly, but then again it's just an internet forum. Blade has his crazy user-unfriendly cut and paste antics, militaryMD goes off on his borderline psychotic rants, and tons of people swear like drunken sailors, but I don't presume they act the same way in the OR (or maybe some of them do). And then some people are unnecessarily anal about punctuation/grammar like me. To each their own.


Hey my writing may be atrocious...sure... but i am online...when it needs to be correct it is.... the judgement is so harsh on here.... i guess the world isnt whip cream and lollipops....

Thanks for at least tryin to see my point of view... Im going to continue lurking... all i wanted to do was help OP see the brigter side of things... im just not going to continue the back and forth with people i respect... i respect you guys without even knowing you bc we all love medicine... but hey...its cool no hard feeling... im starry eyed...use alot of ellipses...and give people headaches lol... its ok.... and the LPN thing...who cares... i work on weekends... bc i like being in the career field... nursng is fun but its not my life's work or anything...i take my job serious but im no braggard bc im a nurse.... i have the utmost respect for MDs and when in on the floor i soak up as much info as i can...

Professional has always been a glorified name for PRICK to me... but hey... it is what it is... i have my prickish ways too but never with people who dont know me well enough not to get offended...

Ill leav you all alone... and believe me... im sure your writing is way better than mine... it should be...u have way more schooling than I have... AND also... wearenot the same...but you were like me before...WITH A PLAN AND A PASSION... I HOPE>>>> i hope you have a passion for medicine...

Sorry if i offended anyone.... OP please dont give up... i wish i could be in your shoes....GOODBYE ALL...
 
Hey my writing may be atrocious...sure... but i am online...when it needs to be correct it is.... the judgement is so harsh on here.... i guess the world isnt whip cream and lollipops....

Thanks for at least tryin to see my point of view... Im going to continue lurking... all i wanted to do was help OP see the brigter side of things... im just not going to continue the back and forth with people i respect... i respect you guys without even knowing you bc we all love medicine... but hey...its cool no hard feeling... im starry eyed...use alot of ellipses...and give people headaches lol... its ok.... and the LPN thing...who cares... i work on weekends... bc i like being in the career field... nursng is fun but its not my life's work or anything...i take my job serious but im no braggard bc im a nurse.... i have the utmost respect for MDs and when in on the floor i soak up as much info as i can...

Professional has always been a glorified name for PRICK to me... but hey... it is what it is... i have my prickish ways too but never with people who dont know me well enough not to get offended...

Ill leav you all alone... and believe me... im sure your writing is way better than mine... it should be...u have way more schooling than I have... AND also... wearenot the same...but you were like me before...WITH A PLAN AND A PASSION... I HOPE>>>> i hope you have a passion for medicine...

Sorry if i offended anyone.... OP please dont give up... i wish i could be in your shoes....GOODBYE ALL...


please...
stop...
posting... thank...
you...
 
Hey my writing may be atrocious...sure... but i am online...when it needs to be correct it is.... the judgement is so harsh on here.... i guess the world isnt whip cream and lollipops....

Thanks for at least tryin to see my point of view... Im going to continue lurking... all i wanted to do was help OP see the brigter side of things... im just not going to continue the back and forth with people i respect... i respect you guys without even knowing you bc we all love medicine... but hey...its cool no hard feeling... im starry eyed...use alot of ellipses...and give people headaches lol... its ok.... and the LPN thing...who cares... i work on weekends... bc i like being in the career field... nursng is fun but its not my life's work or anything...i take my job serious but im no braggard bc im a nurse.... i have the utmost respect for MDs and when in on the floor i soak up as much info as i can...

Professional has always been a glorified name for PRICK to me... but hey... it is what it is... i have my prickish ways too but never with people who dont know me well enough not to get offended...

Ill leav you all alone... and believe me... im sure your writing is way better than mine... it should be...u have way more schooling than I have... AND also... wearenot the same...but you were like me before...WITH A PLAN AND A PASSION... I HOPE>>>> i hope you have a passion for medicine...

Sorry if i offended anyone.... OP please dont give up... i wish i could be in your shoes....GOODBYE ALL...


You might be a good soul out there, but I highly doubt you have all needed qualifications for the field of medicine....and it is not about schooling or passion 😉
It is just plain attentiveness 🙂
 
You don't "soak up" anything. I love how nurses think they can "soak up" information from docs rounding on the same floor. No wonder LPN = RN = NP = MD these days. 🙄

Hey my writing may be atrocious...sure... but i am online...when it needs to be correct it is.... the judgement is so harsh on here.... i guess the world isnt whip cream and lollipops....

Thanks for at least tryin to see my point of view... Im going to continue lurking... all i wanted to do was help OP see the brigter side of things... im just not going to continue the back and forth with people i respect... i respect you guys without even knowing you bc we all love medicine... but hey...its cool no hard feeling... im starry eyed...use alot of ellipses...and give people headaches lol... its ok.... and the LPN thing...who cares... i work on weekends... bc i like being in the career field... nursng is fun but its not my life's work or anything...i take my job serious but im no braggard bc im a nurse.... i have the utmost respect for MDs and when in on the floor i soak up as much info as i can...

Professional has always been a glorified name for PRICK to me... but hey... it is what it is... i have my prickish ways too but never with people who dont know me well enough not to get offended...

Ill leav you all alone... and believe me... im sure your writing is way better than mine... it should be...u have way more schooling than I have... AND also... wearenot the same...but you were like me before...WITH A PLAN AND A PASSION... I HOPE>>>> i hope you have a passion for medicine...

Sorry if i offended anyone.... OP please dont give up... i wish i could be in your shoes....GOODBYE ALL...
 
Wow you actualy dont know WHAT my reasons are.... i only told you WHY i was interested in anesthesiology.. and chemistry i havent taken at the college level yet.... ive never failed... and my curent gpa is a 3.9.... to be honest ... i cant believe judgement was passed so quickly on me... wow... didnt say anything negative at all about anyone.... and this is what i get? wow.... If ou actually knew me... u would know I have the starry eyed approach to almost everything in life....everyone doesnt look at all thing as if its a human body or a question on the mcat.. i actually have a personality...besides the fact that im intelligent. to be honest... it seems that OP as some other issues elsewhere.. he has a wife who supports him... he got through alot so far and he is complaining about the douche bag people he works with who probably are worthless other than the fact that they possess a degree... life is all about attitude... and if i was a hooker on the streets and read this post io would still have the right to tell him he shouldnt give up....

WHEN i become a doctor... i will take great pleasure in knowing that the pricks like you will be to my left and my right instead of over me....Ive been in contact with ALOT OF DOCS bc im an lpn... and i notice the ones with the egos are not the dinosaurs.... the ones who have been in the game...its the one who think they have a little experience.... OOOHHH woooowww ur so special....

And bc of the rude comments... ill continue to be a lurker....maybe even close my account... wow, no wonder the world has such a negative attitude about life.... ad the people in it....


you know MORE than i do about the process? nothing you say, if actually understood, can ever be taken seriously after that remark.

i am more scared of people like you getting into medical school than the dude that knows what is actually going on. the super optimistic excited people usually fall the hardest once they get a taste of the reality of medical practice. i've seen it over and over.

medicine is a profession. it is a put-your-head-down-and-push marathon. the only way to make it, in my opinion, is to see it for what it actually is - and not what you WISH it to be, because for most - it is NOT exactly what we wished for.

i wish you luck and only the best in your future endeavors.
 
Jet the FBI Profiler stands at the periphery of the interrogation room, arms across his chest, leaning against the wall, eyes keened on the suspect who is seated at the table in the middle of the room.

"Hmmm. So Unhappy, I know where you are. Can't by the life of me see that place the way you describe....matter of fact I've got a colleague who's been there since the Halothane days."

Jet walks up to the table and leans on it with both hands, arms straight, directly in front of the suspect. His stare has not left the man's face.

"Looks like you're a fraud, right Unhappy? There's one anesthesia residency where you are. And you don't work there, do ya Slim?"

:bow:
Love the image Jet!
 
Damn folks, you guys are like piranhas. I agree that *all* premeds are too idealistic and have no idea what they're getting into, but come on, let's not attack every newbie who posts on here. We need to keep attracting bright folks into the field, not scare everyone away.

Not that this poster qualifies as bright, judging by writing style.
 
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