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Thanks for the advice. I know how to respond to the "how did you improve your app" question, I'm just hoping I don't get anything like "why didn't you do well in your interview last year?". hahah

Well again, most post-mortems offer some insight into what you did wrong in your interview, so just tell them that.

And I had my interview with A&M today and they asked me what they said I could improve upon in years past. So I guess A&M does it too (no idea if you're even applying there, just struck me as odd since they didn't ask last year).
 
Well I just had my interview at Western this morning. I think it went pretty well, but you never know with these things. Anyone else have any interviews or acceptances? I need to hear some good news from the 3rd,4th,5th,...nth timers!
 
Me so far:

Applied to :luck:

  • A&M
  • Kansas
  • Western
  • Ohio
  • Iowa
  • Missouri
  • Colorado
  • Louisiana
  • Edinburgh

Rejected 😡

  • Missouri
  • Colorado

Interviewed :scared:

  • A&M
  • Ohio
  • Kansas
  • Western
  • Iowa

Waitlisted 😱

  • Ohio (13)
  • Louisiana

Accepted :soexcited:

  • Edinburgh
 
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Yay! I'll jump on the bandwagon although my wagon is much smaller...

Applied:
Western
Illinois
Purdue

Rejected:😡
Purdue

Interviewed::scared:
Western
Illinois (feb 22)

Accepted:
Still Waiting! :xf:
 
Good luck to you both!! Although HopefulAg doesn't need it because he's already in!! Yayyyyy
 
Natalie can have my portion of luck then.

:luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck:



Wow, I just kept clicking to see how many it'd let me do lol. Quite a bit.
 
Natalie can have my portion of luck then.

:luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck::luck:



Wow, I just kept clicking to see how many it'd let me do lol. Quite a bit.

Haha I will GLADLY take your portion! I'm just so ready to start the vet school journey!
 
Nat,
Had interview at Western today as well, in your group, the tall blond one! Mine went very well also, but as you said, one never knows! Third timer as well with rejections this year from Colorado and Virginia, as expected being out of state!
Best of luck!
 
I'm guessing your name is the same as a country on the other side of the world? I was wondering if I'd see any sdn people! Little did I know there was one in my group. I think the interview went well, but I have felt like that before and just been waitlisted. Keeping positive thoughts until march 15th!:scared:
 
You got it! Well, I am still waiting to hear from Davis...so we will see what happens with that, not hopeful. If nothing again then grad school it is, and attempting to move on for good. We shall see, and yes good thoughts for all! Hope you have/had a safe trip back home. I'll be in Chicago in 2 weeks...Brrr.
 
Hey...any good news yet??? I'm waiting in limbo for a few more weeks, but we need an update on our multiple timers!
 
Well since it was brought back up, I suppose I'll update my list.


Applied to :luck:

  • A&M
  • Kansas
  • Western
  • Ohio
  • Iowa
  • Missouri
  • Colorado
  • Louisiana
  • Edinburgh

Rejected 😡

  • Missouri
  • Colorado

Interviewed :scared:

  • A&M
  • Ohio
  • Kansas
  • Western
  • Iowa

Waitlisted 😱

  • Ohio (13)
  • Louisiana
  • Iowa

Accepted :soexcited:

  • Edinburgh
  • Kansas
  • Texas A&M
 
Wow, congratulations HopefulAg!! 3 acceptances! :highfive:
Have you decided where you're going?
 
Have you decided where you're going?

No, taking suggestions though.

Seriously I've no idea how I'm going to decide, so I'm hoping for an epiphany or something lol.
 
Way to rock round three HopefulAg! You are my hero/role model at this point😀!

Good luck with the decision though... I envy you, but don't envy you!

I am considering a trip to Scotland this summer to see if I can see myself in school there. It sounds like a fantastic school and opportunity, but I am a pretty serious homebody (with 2 large dogs and aging parents) so I just don't know if I could do it. I wish I were more adventurous, and then I'd apply in a heartbeat!
 
No, taking suggestions though.

Seriously I've no idea how I'm going to decide, so I'm hoping for an epiphany or something lol.
Congrats! I recommend a dartboard myself -- isn't that how they decide who to interview, anyway? 😛😛😛
 
So as a soon-to-be second timer, what did you learn from the rejections? Meaning did you get post-denial interviews and what did they tell you? Also, what did you do differently and what do you wish you had done sooner???
 
So as a soon-to-be second timer, what did you learn from the rejections? Meaning did you get post-denial interviews and what did they tell you? Also, what did you do differently and what do you wish you had done sooner???


I did a post interview after my second round but not my first.

Things I wish I'd done differently?
Not been such an oblivious thought I was a know-it-all. I went in to my undergrad thinking that all I needed was good grades and scores, and a little bit of vet experience. I didn't do my homework on vet school and as such never realized that things like undergraduate research, extra curricular activities, etc might have been a good idea. As such, I have GREAT GPA, GRE scores, and a crap ton of only SA experience....and almost nothing to say for myself.

Now I'm working on some animal oriented community service stuff, and trying to convince myself that my experience of working a full time job and having a grown up adult life can make up for my lack of doing anything other than SA and having no research experience to speak of.
 
So as a soon-to-be second timer, what did you learn from the rejections? Meaning did you get post-denial interviews and what did they tell you? Also, what did you do differently and what do you wish you had done sooner???

I did post-mortem interviews but only at A&M, and they told me to essentially improve my GPA and get more large animal experiences. So since I finished my degree a year early, I went ahead and stayed in college for my Senior year and basically goofed around. I took classes I wanted to take, vs classes I had to take. They were still relevant to my goal (IE a butchering class, a horse training class, etc) for the most part but I did well in them, ending up with a 4.0 in the fall semester and a 3.7 in the spring (stupid Parasitology!), which ended up knocking a 3.1 semester off my record for Last 45 Hours GPA and caused that particular one to rocket from a 3.35 to 3.58.

What I wish I had done sooner was pay attention to the interview feedback here. The first interview I went to, I went in blind with just a cursory feel for questions they'd ask. The second year, I did a bit more research on potential questions from the database here, but just looked at them and played around with a couple of answers. This year, however, for each school I interviewed at, I took every question off the interview feedback form and prepared some kind of answer to it. Then I rehearsed the ones I thought most likely they'd ask (i.e. "why do you want to be a vet", "why (school)?", "what is the air velocity of an unladen swallow?", "do you know how much vet school costs?", etc.) Seems I was pretty on the money, as the ones I prepared for were asked invariably and then all the other secondary questions that I typed out a response to (but didn't necessarily rehearse) helped dredge up memories that I could relate to similar questions they might ask.
 
"what is the air velocity of an unladen swallow?"QUOTE]

A: "An African or a European swallow?" (or something like that)

I wonder how many people are going to have any idea about this reference. If I was on the adcoms I would have immediately admitted you with that one.

"Q: How do you know she's a witch: A: She turned me into a newt.... well, i got better"
 
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate!
 
"WHAT is your favorite color....?"
 
Just wanted to share my story so others know never to give up!! Third timer with a couple waitlists the first year, nothing the second, and now good news!! Best of luck to everyone!! Stay positive, it will happen! Good news coming your way!!! 👍:luck:🙂


Applied to :luck:

  • Tufts
  • Wisconsin
  • Western
  • Kansas
  • Glasgow

Rejected 😡

  • Wisconsin

Interviewed :scared:

  • Tufts
  • Kansas
  • Western
  • Glasgow

Waitlisted 😱

  • Kansas

Accepted :soexcited:

  • Tufts
  • Glasgow
 
Blue! No, yellow! :laugh:

I wonder what it would look like if we tried analyzing the interests of a common veterinary school hopeful. Aside from the typical variety amongst a regular population, I think we'd find lots of dorkier interests pop up way more often. 😀

🤣Oh, this can go right along with the up and coming research on varies Pre-professional's use of NeoPets.

Personally, I'm really hoping I don't have to give up World of Warcraft if I make it in this year. The thought makes me cry.
 
🤣Oh, this can go right along with the up and coming research on varies Pre-professional's use of NeoPets.

Personally, I'm really hoping I don't have to give up World of Warcraft if I make it in this year. The thought makes me cry.

I knew a few 4th years still playing 🙂 I finally had to give up because of "real life", and I know the gals had to give it up briefly in 2nd year. But they also played on a PVP server and used it as a way to get rid of some irritation at the end of the day 🙂
 
It is amazing the different feel of the pre-med site vs pre-vet. I really like the energy over here. One of the major reasons I am happy to leave my career is that the people I meet in veterinary medicine, although not angels, are much nicer on balance. Especially SDNers!
 
they scare me

The first thread on that forum

"Which one is easier to deal with in med school: a dog or a girlfriend"
I'm thinking about getting one or the other, having a tough time deciding. Thanks for your input.

WTF!
 
The first thread on that forum

"Which one is easier to deal with in med school: a dog or a girlfriend"
I'm thinking about getting one or the other, having a tough time deciding. Thanks for your input.

WTF!

OMG ITS TRUE!! and there are 30 responses so far! lol


"
and its also easier to get rid of a bad dog...

This is true, you can't just drop your girlfriend off at the shelter and be done with her." *shock*
 
"What if the dog is the girlfriend?"

"Then you're probably matriculating somewhere in the midwest... "

"Also if your girlfriend is your dog, then you probably should be in vet school anyway." <-----I resent that!

I could keep going... this is hilarious
 
But they also played on a PVP server and used it as a way to get rid of some irritation at the end of the day

Oh lord. Hell hath no fury like a stressed vet student.
 
I knew a few 4th years still playing 🙂 I finally had to give up because of "real life", and I know the gals had to give it up briefly in 2nd year. But they also played on a PVP server and used it as a way to get rid of some irritation at the end of the day 🙂

oooohhh....I could probably learn to like pvp real fast. I never thought about it that way. >< I have some friends that other than our once a year get together, WoW is the only way we spend time together due to living in different places. Plus the new expansion just looks cool.
 
Now we're going to ask you a clinical question . . .

. . . is this parrot dead, or merely resting?

"If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch he'd be pushing up the daisies!"
 
He's not pining, he's passed on!

Beautiful plumage, eh?
 
I'm writing as an official third timer heading into next year's application. I've kept an eye on this forum, beginning with my first two rejections. You guys are true inspirations! Thanks for sharing and thanks for the laughs!!
 
...Note to self: Never drink anything containing tequila while reading the pre-allo forums. Yes, it makes every thread more entertaining, but the burning pain upon exit from the nostrils is not worth it.

That, and I don't think my laptop appreciates it lol

🙁
 
Congratulations Jill418, HopefulAg, Sheesabigstar, causticus, eringobraugh, and any others I'm missing from the 3+ club!!!!

Sometimes I have delayed reactions. soooo
 
Well it's official....3rd year waitlister here. Still waiting to hear from western, but this is a downer. 🙁
 
ACK! so frustrating!

Good luck with Western and the UIUC waitlist...Truth74 got in off of the IS waitlist there last year so it's obviously possible!!! :luck:
 
Hi guys!

Well it looks like I am getting ready to be a Third Timer! And I really want to get some advice....before I start setting things up for this summer.

BACKGROUND info:
Going to be 26 this year :scared:
B.S. Animal Science 2007 from K-State's Distance Degree Completion program with a 3.86 GPA (last 45 3.91)
GRE 1100+ (I need to raise my verbal score astronomically)

My IS is Colorado and that is where I REALLY REALLY want to go (need to almost because of in-state tuition). BUT obviously I didn't do my undergrad there, which is kind of what some vets I have talked to that graduated from there said might be "part" of the problem.

I live EXCEPTIONALLY rural (which is why I finished via distance) and that isn't going to change unless I get into vet school. I have gained a lifetime of "animal" experience because I was raised on a cattle ranch and that is where I am currently working...along with doing medical transcription at night over the internet (which I thought would look kind of "unique" to adcoms?). Then over the last several years I have been able to acquire about 1,100 hours of vet shadowing with a mixed practice vet (mostly large animal, which is what I am interested in purusing) and then one summer at an internship with a zoo.

In my file review....about the only two things that were said was RAISE my verbal GRE and that my statistics are solid but that I just don't "stand out" as an applicant in a phenomenal pool 😡.

Does anyone think that there is a way that I can "redeem" myself and make myself competitive here??????

Besides retaking the GRE (and possibly doing the Princeton Review to study) I was thinking about volunteering one day a week at the nearest animal shelter (which is over an hour away) and then possibly get a different vet to let me shadow 1-2 days a week for the next 5 months or so. I just can't think of anything else that would help.......or that would be within my boundaries.

THANKS
This thread has really been an inspiration to try one more time!
Good LUCK to all upcoming THIRD TIMERS! :luck: and CONGRATS to you guys this year that made it IN!👍
 
Hi guys!

Well it looks like I am getting ready to be a Third Timer! And I really want to get some advice....before I start setting things up for this summer.

BACKGROUND info:
Going to be 26 this year :scared:
B.S. Animal Science 2007 from K-State's Distance Degree Completion program with a 3.86 GPA (last 45 3.91)
GRE 1100+ (I need to raise my verbal score astronomically)

My IS is Colorado and that is where I REALLY REALLY want to go (need to almost because of in-state tuition). BUT obviously I didn't do my undergrad there, which is kind of what some vets I have talked to that graduated from there said might be "part" of the problem.

I live EXCEPTIONALLY rural (which is why I finished via distance) and that isn't going to change unless I get into vet school. I have gained a lifetime of "animal" experience because I was raised on a cattle ranch and that is where I am currently working...along with doing medical transcription at night over the internet (which I thought would look kind of "unique" to adcoms?). Then over the last several years I have been able to acquire about 1,100 hours of vet shadowing with a mixed practice vet (mostly large animal, which is what I am interested in purusing) and then one summer at an internship with a zoo.

In my file review....about the only two things that were said was RAISE my verbal GRE and that my statistics are solid but that I just don't "stand out" as an applicant in a phenomenal pool 😡.

Does anyone think that there is a way that I can "redeem" myself and make myself competitive here??????

Besides retaking the GRE (and possibly doing the Princeton Review to study) I was thinking about volunteering one day a week at the nearest animal shelter (which is over an hour away) and then possibly get a different vet to let me shadow 1-2 days a week for the next 5 months or so. I just can't think of anything else that would help.......or that would be within my boundaries.

THANKS
This thread has really been an inspiration to try one more time!
Good LUCK to all upcoming THIRD TIMERS! :luck: and CONGRATS to you guys this year that made it IN!👍


I would recommend definitely taking their advice and raising your verbal GRE score. I also got the feeling from my file review from them that they really want to see what makes you unique. Take some time to really think about what makes you different from the rest of the applicants and then tell them how that will make you a better vet in the future. That is the feeling I received from them. Otherwise your stats are really good! Good Luck! And keep us updated on how your third try works out for you! Hopefully third time will be the charm! :luck:
 
Hi guys!

Well it looks like I am getting ready to be a Third Timer! And I really want to get some advice....before I start setting things up for this summer.

BACKGROUND info:
Going to be 26 this year :scared:
B.S. Animal Science 2007 from K-State's Distance Degree Completion program with a 3.86 GPA (last 45 3.91)
GRE 1100+ (I need to raise my verbal score astronomically)

My IS is Colorado and that is where I REALLY REALLY want to go (need to almost because of in-state tuition). BUT obviously I didn't do my undergrad there, which is kind of what some vets I have talked to that graduated from there said might be "part" of the problem.

I live EXCEPTIONALLY rural (which is why I finished via distance) and that isn't going to change unless I get into vet school. I have gained a lifetime of "animal" experience because I was raised on a cattle ranch and that is where I am currently working...along with doing medical transcription at night over the internet (which I thought would look kind of "unique" to adcoms?). Then over the last several years I have been able to acquire about 1,100 hours of vet shadowing with a mixed practice vet (mostly large animal, which is what I am interested in purusing) and then one summer at an internship with a zoo.

In my file review....about the only two things that were said was RAISE my verbal GRE and that my statistics are solid but that I just don't "stand out" as an applicant in a phenomenal pool 😡.

Does anyone think that there is a way that I can "redeem" myself and make myself competitive here??????

Besides retaking the GRE (and possibly doing the Princeton Review to study) I was thinking about volunteering one day a week at the nearest animal shelter (which is over an hour away) and then possibly get a different vet to let me shadow 1-2 days a week for the next 5 months or so. I just can't think of anything else that would help.......or that would be within my boundaries.

THANKS
This thread has really been an inspiration to try one more time!
Good LUCK to all upcoming THIRD TIMERS! :luck: and CONGRATS to you guys this year that made it IN!👍


Hey there!

I hope I can give you some helpful insight. I'm also 26, a third timer, and applied to the same schools (mostly) three years running. I desperately wanted to go to Tufts from the beginning. I spoke with admissions people over the last few years after being waitlisted (Y1) and then rejected (Y2). They suggested that I increase my GRE score, take some upper level bio courses to improve my grades, and to consider doing a Masters Degree first. I re-took the GRE and improved my writing score but math/verbal stayed pretty much the same. I did take some additional classes and improved my grades slightly.

However, overall, I think what paid off this year for me are things that might pay off for you as well, as you seem on a similar path:

1.) Persistence! Despite admissions suggesting I consider a different path, I kept at it and I think by continuing to apply, you demonstrate your dedication to the field and are considered more strongly. Don't give up on Colorado if it's what you want!

2.) Essay guidance: If they are seeking for you to STAND OUT, this is a great way to do it, despite the fact that grades/GRE/experiences may not change very much (even though it sounds like you have great experiences/grades!). That first sentence of your essay can mean the difference between being placed at the top of the pile and at the bottom. This time around, I sought out a number of sources to read and critique my essays. I think I had 8+ people read it, and the essay, while (because I am stubborn) it remained mine, morphed into something that was far clearer, concise and more insightful into who I am/what I want to do. The differences between my original essays and the most recent one is really dramatic and I think that can REALLY be to your benefit if you are seeking a way to stand out in their eyes. Have friends read it, trusted academic advisors, and pre-medical advisors at school, english professors, creative writing friends, musicians -- whoever you think can help you put together the most concise, clear and creative statement. Seek not just grammatical/spelling issues but ask them to read for: "Does this speak to who I am? Does it speak to who I want to be? Do I sound dedicated to this? Do I sound passionate and aware of what the field entails? Do I sound wishy-washy in any way (avoid at all costs!)? Does my opening statement grab their attention? Do I maintain your attention? Is my conclusion concluding -- says what I want, and rounds out the essay?" Anyway, just some suggestions.

3.) Maturity level - You have undoubtedly matured markedly since your first application, and that will show in your willingness to reapply, to retake exams, and to dedicate yourself to the path. Some adcoms have indicated that they prefer students who've been out of school awhile as they are returning to vet medicine, 100 % sure of it being their path. This could help you. I'd definitely consider re-taking the GRE, and using a prep course if you are confident your score could improve. Otherwise, the cost of a prep course may not be worth it, and you might be able to improve your score on your own.

4.) More letters of rec. First two years, I had three letters (same people each time). This year I got seven people (including a committee letter from a pre-health advisor at my undergrad institution (graduated 2006). Though they ask for three and may not read all of the ones you submit, I think this can really be to your benefit if they are deciding between you and another equally qualified candidate as each letter writer may be able speak to different aspects of who you are. If you only do three, consider submitting different people than last year....

5.) Also, it is certainly up to you, and you know your own financial situation and needs better than anyone, but, would you consider applying out of state? It would cost more, but, you might have a better shot of getting in and if it's really what you want to do, could be worth it. I applied this year both to the schools I had previous applied to (and been waitlisted at in previous years), and also a couple of schools that weren't my top choice, but had a higher statistical chance of being accepted. I was accepted to a few out of state programs, but ended up getting in where I'd hoped to all along. So even if not your top choice, having a back-up can be good.

Don't forget as well -- just because a school says other candidates are of a "phenomenal pool" - it doesn't mean that you aren't a phenomenal candidate as well. Remember to treat yourself well, be gentle, and give yourself due credit for hard work! Because many people that apply are excellent candidates (they've all got great grades, great experiences, great letters), but only so many can be accepted each year. Some simply put together a package that grabbed the admissions commitees eyes more openly. That's why I think the essay can really help put you towards the top of the application pile!

This is all just stuff from my own experience, you needn't consider any of it if you don't want to or feel that it will benefit you. But I pushed through even when they suggested I consider a different path and I ended up getting into that very school on my third try. 🙂

Good luck! Feel free to PM me if you want additional ideas or some informational sites that helped me. 👍

*Also, many people's experiences may have been different than mine, so, please know if you are reading this, I mean no offense to anyone else's experiences or paths. 🙂
 
turquoisewolves- oh man that sucks! you have an awesome GPA too!! I guess i would also say to raise your verbal GRE score, and since you are taking it over again...might as well work your butt off in your "Stronger" area, quantitative, so you can blow them away lol.

The LA experience should really set you apart from others, its good you have that. Since that hasn't "blown them away" and they want something to set you apart. I would suggest research (may be hard to find and finish in one year though) or a volunteer trip...I haven't read many of those trips that are posted because I can't go on them. But that would be a great thing for you to do this summer. If it was at all possible to go on one of these trips I would defintely do that. Maybe you can find one that pays for at least food+shelter? You will also get a good eLOR from that.

I know you can't read what your eLORs wrote, but did you ask if they were decent letters? I'm always afraid of this since you cant see what they wrote.

Maybe have some SDNers, family, advisers read over your personal statement. If you have a friend who is an english major...especially in creative writing. Maybe they can put a more interesting spin on your PS.
 
Hi guys!

Well it looks like I am getting ready to be a Third Timer! And I really want to get some advice....before I start setting things up for this summer.

BACKGROUND info:
Going to be 26 this year :scared:
B.S. Animal Science 2007 from K-State's Distance Degree Completion program with a 3.86 GPA (last 45 3.91)
GRE 1100+ (I need to raise my verbal score astronomically)

My IS is Colorado and that is where I REALLY REALLY want to go (need to almost because of in-state tuition). BUT obviously I didn't do my undergrad there, which is kind of what some vets I have talked to that graduated from there said might be "part" of the problem.

I live EXCEPTIONALLY rural (which is why I finished via distance) and that isn't going to change unless I get into vet school. I have gained a lifetime of "animal" experience because I was raised on a cattle ranch and that is where I am currently working...along with doing medical transcription at night over the internet (which I thought would look kind of "unique" to adcoms?). Then over the last several years I have been able to acquire about 1,100 hours of vet shadowing with a mixed practice vet (mostly large animal, which is what I am interested in purusing) and then one summer at an internship with a zoo.

In my file review....about the only two things that were said was RAISE my verbal GRE and that my statistics are solid but that I just don't "stand out" as an applicant in a phenomenal pool 😡.

Does anyone think that there is a way that I can "redeem" myself and make myself competitive here??????

Besides retaking the GRE (and possibly doing the Princeton Review to study) I was thinking about volunteering one day a week at the nearest animal shelter (which is over an hour away) and then possibly get a different vet to let me shadow 1-2 days a week for the next 5 months or so. I just can't think of anything else that would help.......or that would be within my boundaries.

THANKS
This thread has really been an inspiration to try one more time!
Good LUCK to all upcoming THIRD TIMERS! :luck: and CONGRATS to you guys this year that made it IN!👍


Hey there!

I hope I can give you some helpful insight. I'm also 26, a third timer, and applied to the same schools (mostly) three years running. I desperately wanted to go to Tufts from the beginning. I spoke with admissions people over the last few years after being waitlisted (Y1) and then rejected (Y2). They suggested that I increase my GRE score, take some upper level bio courses to improve my grades, and to consider doing a Masters Degree first. I re-took the GRE and improved my writing score but math/verbal stayed pretty much the same. I did take some additional classes and improved my grades slightly.

However, overall, I think what paid off this year for me are things that might pay off for you as well, as you seem on a similar path:

1.) Persistence! Despite admissions suggesting I consider a different path, I kept at it and I think by continuing to apply, you demonstrate your dedication to the field and are considered more strongly. Don't give up on Colorado if it's what you want!

2.) Essay guidance: If they are seeking for you to STAND OUT, this is a great way to do it, despite the fact that grades/GRE/experiences may not change very much (even though it sounds like you have great experiences/grades!). That first sentence of your essay can mean the difference between being placed at the top of the pile and at the bottom. This time around, I sought out a number of sources to read and critique my essays. I think I had 8+ people read it, and the essay, while (because I am stubborn) it remained mine, morphed into something that was far clearer, concise and more insightful into who I am/what I want to do. The differences between my original essays and the most recent one is really dramatic and I think that can REALLY be to your benefit if you are seeking a way to stand out in their eyes. Have friends read it, trusted academic advisors, and pre-medical advisors at school, english professors, creative writing friends, musicians -- whoever you think can help you put together the most concise, clear and creative statement. Seek not just grammatical/spelling issues but ask them to read for: "Does this speak to who I am? Does it speak to who I want to be? Do I sound dedicated to this? Do I sound passionate and aware of what the field entails? Do I sound wishy-washy in any way (avoid at all costs!)? Does my opening statement grab their attention? Do I maintain your attention? Is my conclusion concluding -- says what I want, and rounds out the essay?" Anyway, just some suggestions.

3.) Maturity level - You have undoubtedly matured markedly since your first application, and that will show in your willingness to reapply, to retake exams, and to dedicate yourself to the path. Some adcoms have indicated that they prefer students who've been out of school awhile as they are returning to vet medicine, 100 % sure of it being their path. This could help you. I'd definitely consider re-taking the GRE, and using a prep course if you are confident your score could improve. Otherwise, the cost of a prep course may not be worth it, and you might be able to improve your score on your own.

4.) More letters of rec. First two years, I had three letters (same people each time). This year I got seven people (including a committee letter from a pre-health advisor at my undergrad institution (graduated 2006). Though they ask for three and may not read all of the ones you submit, I think this can really be to your benefit if they are deciding between you and another equally qualified candidate as each letter writer may be able speak to different aspects of who you are. If you only do three, consider submitting different people than last year....

5.) Also, it is certainly up to you, and you know your own financial situation and needs better than anyone, but, would you consider applying out of state? It would cost more, but, you might have a better shot of getting in and if it's really what you want to do, could be worth it. I applied this year both to the schools I had previous applied to (and been waitlisted at in previous years), and also a couple of schools that weren't my top choice, but had a higher statistical chance of being accepted. I was accepted to a few out of state programs, but ended up getting in where I'd hoped to all along. So even if not your top choice, having a back-up can be good.

Don't forget as well -- just because a school says other candidates are of a "phenomenal pool" - it doesn't mean that you aren't a phenomenal candidate as well. Remember to treat yourself well, be gentle, and give yourself due credit for hard work! Because many people that apply are excellent candidates (they've all got great grades, great experiences, great letters), but only so many can be accepted each year. Some simply put together a package that grabbed the admissions commitees eyes more openly. That's why I think the essay can really help put you towards the top of the application pile!

This is all just stuff from my own experience, you needn't consider any of it if you don't want to or feel that it will benefit you. But I pushed through even when they suggested I consider a different path and I ended up getting into that very school on my third try. 🙂

Good luck! Feel free to PM me if you want additional ideas or some informational sites that helped me. 👍

*Also, many people's experiences may have been different than mine, so, please know if you are reading this, I mean no offense to anyone else's experiences or paths. 🙂
 
Maybe have some SDNers, family, advisers read over your personal statement. If you have a friend who is an english major...especially in creative writing. Maybe they can put a more interesting spin on your PS.

You know BlackKAT this might be a really good idea. Anyone bored and want to read my PS????????? 😉

I had a variety of people read (2 vets...an M.D....family) but I think maybe since they "know" me they transposed that into the essay instead of thinking that these admissions people are going to read it without having ever met me first. SO I am afraid it doesn't convey an image of myself. Maybe it might be nice to get some people's opinions that have NEVER met me! Plus I think I am ignorant as to WHAT people write in their PS...Creativity probably is not my strong suit!

Jill418:

It is really nice to hear someone else's success story of getting in where they really wanted to end up after 3 tries. I am really hoping just plain "persisence" works in my favor.
I was wondering about the number of letters of rec. I was told that the 3 that I did submit put me in "the top 2% pile" which I am not entirely sure I know that that means. I am thinking I should add a couple more to the "list" on top of the required 3. Sounds like it can only help!


ONE more ?
I heard a rumor that when you apply to more than 1 school it looks "better" to the one that you want to get into. Is that true? I wasn't even aware that the VMCAS sent out to the individual schools the names of all the schools that a person applied to. BUT technically I did apply to 2 this year so it didn't help me out with CSU anyway...just curious though.

THANKS guys...
I am starting to get lots of hope and ideas! of the little things that I can "refine"👍
 
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