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Freshman year I basically nerded out and had a fantastic year: great gpa, good ECs, research, awards, etc. But no friends. Is it worth it to make friends in college? I feel like they will mooch off me, making my application suffer consequently. I hear all the hype about college being the best years of one's life but isn't getting into med school more important than socializing? thoughts
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👎 :zip:
 
Such relevant and interesting posts people!

LOL at the resident ripping on this thread too.
 
SDN people are so mean. It's awesome.
 
kaylak05 said:
Honestly, this was funny for a little bit but now it's just getting ridiculously mean. If she really has no friends why are you all sitting here rubbing it in her face? OP if I were you I'd just stop reading if I were you. No need to let others bring you down...or try to at least.
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we need more people like you on SDN for real! OP dont listen to these people ... work hard in school but you can always find a balance ... its a trait that will come in handy as a physician. Good luck
 
Simplify said:
Wait, there are females on the Internet? 😱
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yeah, i just found that out yesterday and my jaw dropped sa low that it hit the table i had to get my chin stitched.. gah!
 
Janieve said:
We're kind of worse than 4Chan. That takes balls. Go us! 👍
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It's because the later someone was born the more likely they are to be a tech savant internet weirdo. The SDN crowd is mainly people who were born in the 90s now (pre-allo at least). Hence the weirdos
 
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I blame 4chan for the downfall of this thread, and others like it.

Even if they were lame in the first place.
 
huskerdye said:
....not!

"Isolate yourself and don't reintroduce yourself to civilization until you can picture every single sheet of notes in your head.

For all of my exams I have every page so that I can visualize it and where certain points and facts are on that page. That definitely helps on essays and stuff to be able to say like "this on page 47 in my book" and then be able to see what is on that page." http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=756823

I doubt you can do this, but if you can you're one of the few. Even if you can, talking to other people is important. And most people cannot do this, nor would they spend all 24 hours of their day memorizing every detail.

"Hey guys,

Just finished freshman year and was wondering what I should do socially for next sem.

Freshman year I basically nerded out and had a fantastic year: great gpa, good ECs, research, awards, etc. But no friends. Is it worth it to make friends in college? I feel like they will mooch off me, making my application suffer consequently. I hear all the hype about college being the best years of one's life but isn't getting into med school more important than socializing? thoughts?" http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=755637

Medicine isn't all about being book smart. Plus, freshman year is so easy. I got all a's freshman year and went out three times a week.

"I don't ever have career crises which is awesome. I basically have just one option. I like it like that actually. My parents are doctors. My cousins are either attendings, residents, or students." http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=10044569#post10044569

YOU'RE A FRESHMAN/going to be a sophomore.. YOU'VE ONLY TAKEN GEN CHEM AND GEN BIOLOGY. Oh and I can't forget English 1, that's definitely a toughie.

You are very ill-informed. You may know the application process, but the fact remains your a sophomore and you run around this forum acting like you're a sixty year old attending.

I disagree with almost all of your posts, call it trolling if you wish. I call it as it is.
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This can't be a real person...
 
once said:
This thread, originally started with good intentions, has returned remarkably high comedic value.
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Unfortunately, it is mostly at your expense.
 
Electronegative said:
nope, just a neurotic pre-med
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My faith in humanity just can't let me believe that neurotic pre-meds are truly that bad. I was on the border with non-trad, so I missed out on the undergraduate experience of being a pre-med... maybe I'm wrong.
 
dear god, someone seems to have no life, no friends and obviously no idea about what's going on. I think this is what med schools screen for during interviews ... the no life A++ students that are in it because everyone else in the family is doing it. And I say thank God for adcom screening committees.

Lord knows med school's already filled with A type neurotic med students and hard as ****, to have people who're socially inept would just make the whole med school experience that much more ****ty.
 
Ischemic said:
dear god, someone seems to have no life, no friends and obviously no idea about what's going on. I think this is what med schools screen for during interviews ... the no life A++ students that are in it because everyone else in the family is doing it. And I say thank God for adcom screening committees.

Lord knows med school's already filled with A type neurotic med students and hard as ****, to have people who're socially inept would just make the whole med school experience that much more ****ty.
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I actually read a book written by a physician - I'll have to look up the title later - where he had received a letter by someone who had applied to medical schools and got rejected and wanted advice on what he could do to make his application better for next cycle. He had perfect grades, EC's .. you name it, he had it, and so the physician who wrote the book was baffled, so they decided to chat on the phone, and he figured it out. He explained the applicant had no emotion at all - he had a very monotonous voice and didn't sound interested at all in anything. And it just proves that while you need all the technical stuff as well, adcoms also want to see that you're human.
 
TarHeelEMT said:
My faith in humanity just can't let me believe that neurotic pre-meds are truly that bad. I was on the border with non-trad, so I missed out on the undergraduate experience of being a pre-med... maybe I'm wrong.
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Were not like that trust me. Its just a select few like "Once".
 
Neurocentric said:
I actually read a book written by a physician - I'll have to look up the title later - where he had received a letter by someone who had applied to medical schools and got rejected and wanted advice on what he could do to make his application better for next cycle. He had perfect grades, EC's .. you name it, he had it, and so the physician who wrote the book was baffled, so they decided to chat on the phone, and he figured it out. He explained the applicant had no emotion at all - he had a very monotonous voice and didn't sound interested at all in anything. And it just proves that while you need all the technical stuff as well, adcoms also want to see that you're human.
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Hey, I think I read the same book. It was a book about how to get into med school. Pretty good book I thought.
 
Ischemic said:
Hey, I think I read the same book. It was a book about how to get into med school. Pretty good book I thought.
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Oh yeah, definitely wasn't bad. It had a list of the all the schools, both Allopathic and Osteopathic, too.
 
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"If she.. weighs the same.. as a duck.. she's made of wood!"
"And therefore?"
"A WITCH!"
 
jj6vcb said:
It's because the later someone was born the more likely they are to be a tech savant internet weirdo. The SDN crowd is mainly people who were born in the 90s now (pre-allo at least). Hence the weirdos
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You have a wade boggs avatar! it got me excited.
 
I seriously don't know why undergrad requires so much work and memorization for OP. Try to understand the material and you can get straight As with like doing little work and all your friends will think you are a genius.

Yes, I know what you are thinking OP. "How exactly do you understand?"
Well, that is where intelligence comes in.

LOl I didn't really want to write this but I don't want to have some girl crying in her room so I am going to say that please don't take anyone in here seriously.
 
huskerdye said:
....not!

"Isolate yourself and don't reintroduce yourself to civilization until you can picture every single sheet of notes in your head.

For all of my exams I have every page so that I can visualize it and where certain points and facts are on that page. That definitely helps on essays and stuff to be able to say like "this on page 47 in my book" and then be able to see what is on that page." http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=756823

I doubt you can do this, but if you can you're one of the few. Even if you can, talking to other people is important. And most people cannot do this, nor would they spend all 24 hours of their day memorizing every detail.
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Sorry to get in the way of the OP bashing, but how do you know it took the OP hours and hours to do this?

I know for general chemistry I would routinely memorize my notes before the exam. It would take me about 3 hours before my exam but I found it to be helpful in addition to working problems. You're right that not everything can do it but I have a semi-photographic memory and I assume that OP does as well if he/she can do this.

I remember for history classes in high school I wouldn't actively try to memorize the textbook but by reading each chapter aloud in my head 3-4 times up to an exam, I would realize that I had committed at least 50% of the most important text in the book, word-for-word, into my memory. I know I'm only talking about high school and it was a long time ago for me, but it was a tremendous benefit on closed-book history exams to be able to quote from the book from memory and cite it -- "Just as the abolitionists in Massachusetts struggled with X, the author of our textbook, the American Pageant, pointed out on page 92 that these Massachusetts residents were not the only Americans struggling with the moral bankruptcy of slavery... saying that "John Brown stood as a moral beacon of hope for those Americans who wished to see slavery ended." (Kennedy, 47).

I would routinely pull do quite well because I was one of only two kids in the class of 30 who had this ability (to some degree). The other kids would have to write their essays without appropriate sourcing (and thus a lot of fluff). It was also a tremendous benefit on the multiple choice exams (like the AP US) because I could call up the textbook in my head, mentally flip to the rough chapter that the question was referencing (pre-revolutionary war, industrial, civil war, post-ww1, 1970s- police state) and figure out the answer. Why are you knocking OP because he/she has this ability? Again, maybe it didn't take him/her hundreds of hours to do this. For my history exams I could pick up about 20% of the text just from reading it the first time. Subsequent readings would increase this to approx 50%.
 
LawNonTrad said:
Sorry to get in the way of the OP bashing, but how do you know it took the OP hours and hours to do this?

I know for general chemistry I would routinely memorize my notes before the exam. It would take me about 3 hours before my exam but I found it to be helpful in addition to working problems. You're right that not everything can do it but I have a semi-photographic memory and I assume that OP does as well if he/she can do this.

I remember for history classes in high school I wouldn't actively try to memorize the textbook but by reading each chapter aloud in my head 3-4 times up to an exam, I would realize that I had committed at least 50% of the most important text in the book, word-for-word, into my memory. I know I'm only talking about high school and it was a long time ago for me, but it was a tremendous benefit on closed-book history exams to be able to quote from the book from memory and cite it -- "Just as the abolitionists in Massachusetts struggled with X, the author of our textbook, the American Pageant, pointed out on page 92 that these Massachusetts residents were not the only Americans struggling with the moral bankruptcy of slavery... saying that "John Brown stood as a moral beacon of hope for those Americans who wished to see slavery ended." (Kennedy, 47).

I would routinely pull do quite well because I was one of only two kids in the class of 30 who had this ability (to some degree). The other kids would have to write their essays without appropriate sourcing (and thus a lot of fluff). It was also a tremendous benefit on the multiple choice exams (like the AP US) because I could call up the textbook in my head, mentally flip to the rough chapter that the question was referencing (pre-revolutionary war, industrial, civil war, post-ww1, 1970s- police state) and figure out the answer. Why are you knocking OP because he/she has this ability? Again, maybe it didn't take him/her hundreds of hours to do this. For my history exams I could pick up about 20% of the text just from reading it the first time. Subsequent readings would increase this to approx 50%.
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Wow great to know that you and OP have this super ability to memorize texts. But it really hurts me to let you know that your super ability is worthless with absolutely no use in reality

By the way, I am just curious on what exactly do you spend three hours before the class memorizing? There was absolutely no memorization when I took gen chem.
 
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LawNonTrad,

You are missing the point. The majority of individuals here are not bashing because she has a specific study habit, but that she is being a complete hippocrite by denouncing the very same type of pre-med that she makes herself out to be.
 
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LawNonTrad said:
Sorry to get in the way of the OP bashing, but how do you know it took the OP hours and hours to do this?

I know for general chemistry I would routinely memorize my notes before the exam. It would take me about 3 hours before my exam but I found it to be helpful in addition to working problems. You're right that not everything can do it but I have a semi-photographic memory and I assume that OP does as well if he/she can do this.

I remember for history classes in high school I wouldn't actively try to memorize the textbook but by reading each chapter aloud in my head 3-4 times up to an exam, I would realize that I had committed at least 50% of the most important text in the book, word-for-word, into my memory. I know I'm only talking about high school and it was a long time ago for me, but it was a tremendous benefit on closed-book history exams to be able to quote from the book from memory and cite it -- "Just as the abolitionists in Massachusetts struggled with X, the author of our textbook, the American Pageant, pointed out on page 92 that these Massachusetts residents were not the only Americans struggling with the moral bankruptcy of slavery... saying that "John Brown stood as a moral beacon of hope for those Americans who wished to see slavery ended." (Kennedy, 47).

I would routinely pull do quite well because I was one of only two kids in the class of 30 who had this ability (to some degree). The other kids would have to write their essays without appropriate sourcing (and thus a lot of fluff). It was also a tremendous benefit on the multiple choice exams (like the AP US) because I could call up the textbook in my head, mentally flip to the rough chapter that the question was referencing (pre-revolutionary war, industrial, civil war, post-ww1, 1970s- police state) and figure out the answer. Why are you knocking OP because he/she has this ability? Again, maybe it didn't take him/her hundreds of hours to do this. For my history exams I could pick up about 20% of the text just from reading it the first time. Subsequent readings would increase this to approx 50%.
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Shhh, I got to make up all my history exams even though the syllabus explicitly said "NO MAKE-UP's." u mad? u irate?
 
LawNonTrad said:
Sorry to get in the way of the OP bashing, but how do you know it took the OP hours and hours to do this?

I know for general chemistry I would routinely memorize my notes before the exam. It would take me about 3 hours before my exam but I found it to be helpful in addition to working problems. You're right that not everything can do it but I have a semi-photographic memory and I assume that OP does as well if he/she can do this.

I remember for history classes in high school I wouldn't actively try to memorize the textbook but by reading each chapter aloud in my head 3-4 times up to an exam, I would realize that I had committed at least 50% of the most important text in the book, word-for-word, into my memory. I know I'm only talking about high school and it was a long time ago for me, but it was a tremendous benefit on closed-book history exams to be able to quote from the book from memory and cite it -- "Just as the abolitionists in Massachusetts struggled with X, the author of our textbook, the American Pageant, pointed out on page 92 that these Massachusetts residents were not the only Americans struggling with the moral bankruptcy of slavery... saying that "John Brown stood as a moral beacon of hope for those Americans who wished to see slavery ended." (Kennedy, 47).

I would routinely pull do quite well because I was one of only two kids in the class of 30 who had this ability (to some degree). The other kids would have to write their essays without appropriate sourcing (and thus a lot of fluff). It was also a tremendous benefit on the multiple choice exams (like the AP US) because I could call up the textbook in my head, mentally flip to the rough chapter that the question was referencing (pre-revolutionary war, industrial, civil war, post-ww1, 1970s- police state) and figure out the answer. Why are you knocking OP because he/she has this ability? Again, maybe it didn't take him/her hundreds of hours to do this. For my history exams I could pick up about 20% of the text just from reading it the first time. Subsequent readings would increase this to approx 50%.
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Okay, so you're telling me that you can literally memorize every single page in a textbook.

no that's impossible. If you can do that you would have absolutely no need to go to class, you have you're life handed to you.

And no I'm not a 'neurotic pre-med'. I don't run around this forum acting like I know every single damn thing about what it's like to be a doctor, because I don't. I'm sick of her hypocritical advice and her acting like she's an attendant. In reality, if she thinks friends aren't important, I wouldn't want her as my physician.

If I want to make an argument, I post evidence. I'm not going to simply type "OP you're stupid and don't know what you're talking about". It's an irrelevant post. I decided I was sick of her posts and wanted her to read mine so maybe she can understand where I'm coming from.

I'm sure Once is a very smart person, but somebody who really doesn't have any idea what it's like to be an attending, although she thinks she does. I'm not saying I do either, but I don't run around acting like I am. And also, I didn't poke fun of her about having that ability. I'm saying it's horrible advice for somebody who had problems taking tests, but knew the information. Maybe read my post and the attached link if you want to start an argument?

Also, please see the post about whether or not shes ever had an "identity crisis" after freshman year. There is a long way to go Once. Freshman year is cakes.


PS: I don't believe you, wtf would you memorize in Gen Chem? The first five hundred digits of Avagadros number??????? Idk. There is no memorization in general chem.
 
iwantMD said:
Wow great to know that you and OP have this super ability to memorize texts. But it really hurts me to let you know that your super ability is worthless with absolutely no use in reality

By the way, I am just curious on what exactly do you spend three hours before the class memorizing? There was absolutely no memorization when I took gen chem.
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You're clueless if you don't think memorization has any uses. I just told you about an instance where it came in very handy (AP US exam).
 
LawNonTrad said:
You're clueless if you don't think memorization has any uses. I just told you about an instance where it came in very handy (AP US exam).
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It does have uses, but they are limited. Sure, some classes are just pure memorization, but most of the time, you're not learning anything if you're just vomiting facts from the book. If the situation you're using the information in changes slightly, what are you gonna do then? You'd only know what you memorized from the book, not actually learning that plus understanding the "why".
 
huskerdye said:
Okay, so you're telling me that you can literally memorize every single page in a textbook.

no that's impossible. If you can do that you would have absolutely no need to go to class, you have you're life handed to you.
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You're wrong. The fact that you don't happen to possess this ability doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone to possess.

I go to classes where pop quizzes are given out and classes where straight memorization won't help. I skipped all of my courses in college that only required memorization and basic critical thinking skills. I skipped every Modern Euro History class after the first lecture, I skipped every Financial Accounting class after the first lecture, etc.

I'm not lying. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but what reason would I have to lie to you? I can do this and maybe the OP can as well. When I was 15 and was sent to my school district's psychologist, he gave me the set of Wechsler Intelligence for Children tests (for those up to age 16) and one set of them consisted of memory tests. I scored 99th percentile on the digit span test, where he read increasing numbers of digits out to me and asked me to repeat them back to him from memory. The average adult can do this up to 7 digits. I was able to do this out to 22 digits before I made a mistake. If someone sat in front of you and told you the number 582759178490346317402, could you repeat it back to them? The psychologist told me after all the testing was completed that he had tested over 800 children in the 25 years that he had been with the district, and that I had the highest score of anyone that he'd ever tested on the digit span section.
 
God, lawnontrad strikes again. Anyone see a familiar theme running in her last few posts on this thread? She loves to make things all about her doesn't she?
 
LawNonTrad said:
You're wrong. The fact that you don't happen to possess this ability doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone to possess.

I go to classes where pop quizzes are given out and classes where straight memorization won't help. I skipped all of my courses in college that only required memorization and basic critical thinking skills. I skipped every Modern Euro History class after the first lecture, I skipped every Financial Accounting class after the first lecture, etc.

I'm not lying. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but what reason would I have to lie to you? I can do this and maybe the OP can as well. When I was 15 and was sent to my school district's psychologist, he gave me the set of Wechsler Intelligence for Children tests (for those up to age 16) and one set of them consisted of memory tests. I scored 99th percentile on the digit span test, where he read increasing numbers of digits out to me and asked me to repeat them back to him from memory. The average adult can do this up to 7 digits. I was able to do this out to 22 digits before I made a mistake. If someone sat in front of you and told you the number 582759178490346317402, could you repeat it back to them? The psychologist told me after all the testing was completed that he had tested over 800 children in the 25 years that he had been with the district, and that I had the highest score of anyone that he'd ever tested on the digit span section.
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I get the feeling LawNonTrad just likes to brag about her mental capabilities. And doesn't get exactly how annoying that is to most of us. It's like when you're having a conversation with someone and they spout off some incorrect factoid and you correct them, only to have them snottily inform you that their IQ is in the triple-digits and THEREFORE they're smart enough to know what they're talking about.

And who cares if you're naturally good at memorizing things? Doesn't do jack for you if you're not good at synthesizing concepts or, more importantly, engaging in a conversation without making it a competition. We don't care if your metaphorical cock is bigger than ours. Everyone knows that it's not the size that matters - it's how you use it.

Ischemic said:
God, lawnontrad strikes again. Anyone see a familiar theme running in her last few posts on this thread? She loves to make things all about her doesn't she?
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I'd love to meet her in real life. She probably thinks she can do no wrong and that the entire world should live by her code. After all, we're always the ones who are wrong.
 
LawNonTrad said:
You're wrong. The fact that you don't happen to possess this ability doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone to possess.

I go to classes where pop quizzes are given out and classes where straight memorization won't help. I skipped all of my courses in college that only required memorization and basic critical thinking skills. I skipped every Modern Euro History class after the first lecture, I skipped every Financial Accounting class after the first lecture, etc.

I'm not lying. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but what reason would I have to lie to you? I can do this and maybe the OP can as well. When I was 15 and was sent to my school district's psychologist, he gave me the set of Wechsler Intelligence for Children tests (for those up to age 16) and one set of them consisted of memory tests. I scored 99th percentile on the digit span test, where he read increasing numbers of digits out to me and asked me to repeat them back to him from memory. The average adult can do this up to 7 digits. I was able to do this out to 22 digits before I made a mistake. If someone sat in front of you and told you the number 582759178490346317402, could you repeat it back to them? The psychologist told me after all the testing was completed that he had tested over 800 children in the 25 years that he had been with the district, and that I had the highest score of anyone that he'd ever tested on the digit span section.
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I bet Once is glad you logged on your just taking the beating from her in exchance for your own crucifiction. You sir, are a good man.🙄
 
Gosh folks. Sorry if I detest the fact that you all seem to get some perverse joy out of picking on a pre-med (once) lacking social skills. Does it make you feel better Janieve? Does it? Haha. Come on now. That's pathetic. Same goes for the rest of you. This thread turned into a crapfest because of you guys.
 
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Janieve said:
I get the feeling LawNonTrad just likes to brag about her mental capabilities. And doesn't get exactly how annoying that is to most of us. It's like when you're having a conversation with someone and they spout off some incorrect factoid and you correct them, only to have them snottily inform you that their IQ is in the triple-digits and THEREFORE they're smart enough to know what they're talking about.
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I pointed out someone's incorrect assertion. How dare I, right? How dare I! I should really know better. And to think that I included a supporting anecdote as well. The straw broke the camel's back last week if I get your drift (or whenever my last thread was).

Janieve said:
And who cares if you're naturally good at memorizing things? Doesn't do jack for you if you're not good at synthesizing concepts or, more importantly, engaging in a conversation without making it a competition. We don't care if your metaphorical cock is bigger than ours. Everyone knows that it's not the size that matters - it's how you use it.
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This thread isn't about me regardless of your attempt to divert it away from the original topic of discussion. I love how you construct these elaborate straw men. You must be very impressed with yourself. Just because you're good at memorization, LawNonTrad, doesn't mean you're good at synthesizing concepts. Nah nah nah nah nah, so take that, LawNonTrad. What do you think critical thinking is? What do you think law school is?

By the way, I don't think mine is bigger than yours...

Janieve said:
I'd love to meet her in real life. She probably thinks she can do no wrong and that the entire world should live by her code. After all, we're always the ones who are wrong.
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Hey, if the shoe fits. But keep making it a blame game. Oh, woe is you, Janieve... it's just not fair. :laugh:
 
Lawnontrad I don't think you are going to make it to medical school. I suggest that you start work at burger king
 
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Ischemic said:
I'm gonna go with no. Lawyers are only good at ordering chinese takeout.
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good thing she can apparently memorize the menu of every take-out place in a 20 mile radius
 
Well, all I want to ask of you, LawNonTrad, is:

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iwantMD said:
Lawnontrad I don't think you are going to make it to medical school. I suggest that you start work at burger king
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You fail at humor and at post edits. I liked the window washing suggestion better. I worked at a car wash during high school (yep, wasn't spoiled rotten like some SDN premeds, I have actually held paid jobs before applying to medical school) and I think I learned how to wash windows rather well.
 
LawNonTrad said:
You're wrong. The fact that you don't happen to possess this ability doesn't mean that it's impossible for anyone to possess.

I go to classes where pop quizzes are given out and classes where straight memorization won't help. I skipped all of my courses in college that only required memorization and basic critical thinking skills. I skipped every Modern Euro History class after the first lecture, I skipped every Financial Accounting class after the first lecture, etc.

I'm not lying. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but what reason would I have to lie to you? I can do this and maybe the OP can as well. When I was 15 and was sent to my school district's psychologist, he gave me the set of Wechsler Intelligence for Children tests (for those up to age 16) and one set of them consisted of memory tests. I scored 99th percentile on the digit span test, where he read increasing numbers of digits out to me and asked me to repeat them back to him from memory. The average adult can do this up to 7 digits. I was able to do this out to 22 digits before I made a mistake. If someone sat in front of you and told you the number 582759178490346317402, could you repeat it back to them? The psychologist told me after all the testing was completed that he had tested over 800 children in the 25 years that he had been with the district, and that I had the highest score of anyone that he'd ever tested on the digit span section.
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Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
 
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