Thoughts on the new curriculum at UNC?

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http://meded.ucsd.edu/index.cfm/ugme/curriculum_requirements/core_curriculum/
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Here's UCSD.

UCLA also has an organ system curriculum. http://dgsom.healthsciences.ucla.edu/dgsom/education/pages/mep

Ppl on the school specific threads for these programs can probably elaborate on this curriculum type.
 
Lots of schools do. It's called "vertical integration".

Makes no difference compared to the classic Flexner model either.

I'm waiting for the flipped curriculum. That should prove interesting.

UNC is implementing a new curriculum in 2013-2014: http://www.med.unc.edu/md/curriculum/curriculum-overview/tec-curriculum-information/tec-curriculum

Any thoughts on this? I am concerned that including the basic science sections in the organ systems would lead to a weaker basic science foundation. Do any other schools currently have a curriculum like this?
 
Do any other schools currently have a curriculum like this?
Look it up. Loads of schools do.

Lots of schools do. It's called "vertical integration".

Makes no difference compared to the classic Flexner model either.

I'm waiting for the flipped curriculum. That should prove interesting.
What's the flipped curriculum?
 
UNC is implementing a new curriculum in 2013-2014: http://www.med.unc.edu/md/curriculum/curriculum-overview/tec-curriculum-information/tec-curriculum

Any thoughts on this? I am concerned that including the basic science sections in the organ systems would lead to a weaker basic science foundation. Do any other schools currently have a curriculum like this?
Baylor has been doing the 1.5 year pre-clinical curriculum for years. And Baylor Med students do exceptionally well on their board exams.https://www.bcm.edu/osa/handbook/index.cfm?pmid=5608
I believe @jturkel can elaborate on this.
 
Lots of schools do. It's called "vertical integration".

Makes no difference compared to the classic Flexner model either.

I'm waiting for the flipped curriculum. That should prove interesting.

I think that's inevitable. When you look at medical education as it already is, medical students essentially teach themselves. Lectures are helpful, but I find it hard to believe that the number of students that use their lecture notes as a primary learning source is anything more than a minority - particularly when it comes to the step exams. That leads me to question: what the **** am I actually paying for?

It makes sense to use this trend to the advantage of our own education. Have us meet for 2-3 hours a day to go over cases and give us the rest of the day off to study and use as we please. Clearly outline what we need to learn and we'll do it. That's how medical education already works.

I don't see this as revolutionary as the article above seems to suggest.
 
The new curriculum was discussed extensively on interview day and even more so on second look day. If you were at either or both this year, forgive me for rehashing what you've probably already heard.

Everyone's first concern is whether they'll come out of this curriculum overwhelmed with two years' worth of material crammed into three quarters of that time and unprepared for standardized testing. IMO, that largely depends on the student. I think that a capable student can absolutely get a solid basic science foundation in this amount of time and do well on Step 1 without going crazy. Like others have said, several other schools have successfully implemented similar curricula. And the schools listed are all well-respected schools. Have any of the schools mentioned above suffered in terms of Step averages or residency placements? I honestly don't know, but I would bet that if they had, they would have reverted to their old curricula by now.

So if the concept of the condensed curriculum has been shown to work so far, the next concern should be the implementation at UNC specifically. It's really all about the execution. The Class of 2018 will be the first to experience the TEC curriculum in its entirety, but it is my understanding that the Class of 2017 has had a transitional curriculum, where they've had mostly the old curriculum with a few experimental components added to test out newer things. Keep in mind, a new curriculum doesn't mean that they are starting from square one; they are just changing they way material is taught.

Yes, there will be frustration and growing pains, but the administration is committed to gathering and acting on the feedback of their students. They're experienced educators and administrators. I'm actually kind of excited about diving into systems right away.
 
I have no qualms with a 1.5 pre-clinical curriculum as it has been proven to work, but being a guinea pig for the first year of curriculum reform at any school would give me pause.
 
I think that's inevitable. When you look at medical education as it already is, medical students essentially teach themselves. Lectures are helpful, but I find it hard to believe that the number of students that use their lecture notes as a primary learning source is anything more than a minority - particularly when it comes to the step exams. That leads me to question: what the **** am I actually paying for?

It makes sense to use this trend to the advantage of our own education. Have us meet for 2-3 hours a day to go over cases and give us the rest of the day off to study and use as we please. Clearly outline what we need to learn and we'll do it. That's how medical education already works.

I don't see this as revolutionary as the article above seems to suggest.
You should look at Hofstra's model, it literally is choose your own resources and teach yourself for the vast majority of it, then show up for some PBL discussions. May be nice for learning, but really not sure what you're paying for in the preclinical years as you are essentially completely self educating.
 
My thoughts are that I'd be more interested in it if OOS students had more than a snowflake's chance of getting into that school =/.
 
Thanks everyone! I'm applying for 2014-2015 so won't be in the first batch of guinea pigs, luckily. We'll see how it goes next year!
 
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