Tips for Aching Feet while on Call?

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Any recommendations for the most comfortable shoes?
Or any other tips to keep your feet from killing while on them for so long?
Thanks.
 
lots of ppl swear by dansko shoes. (there's a dansko outlet in pennsylvania and the online outlet is also cheaper...) I also recommend compression hose - i wear the knee highs with my dansko shoes.
 
MOST DEFINITELY agree with Dansko's. It can take a little time to break them in, but there is nothing better for your feet and back when your standing for 12+ hours. Stretching helps too. May look stupid but stretch. Bend over and touch your toes, squat down, and of course sit when you can.
 
I also had Dansko's. They're great for your back and feet but put a lot of pressure on your knees.

If you've got bad knees like I do I recommend regular sneakers with gel insoles.

Get off your feet as much as you can. Try getting your attending to round in the conference room first, rather than standing the whole time on rounds. You may feel like a wimp when you do it the first time, but the entire team will appreciate it if the attending says yes.
 
I strongly recommend avoiding sneakers or athletic shoes. Running shoes and athletic shoes are designed for a tight fit to stablize the foot for high impact sports and lateral movement. Tight fitting shoes are not what you want for prolonged standing, however. They'll just make your feet hurt more. Find a good pair of clogs or mocs that fit you, and you'll be so much happier. Also when you get a chance to sit or lie down, prop your legs up. That also makes a big difference.

If I were an internist on an academic service, I'd conduct rounds in lounge chairs.
 
This topic periodically gets beaten to death on SDN.

For previous pearls of wisdom, walk in here, totter ataxically over here, or throw your paretic feet into this. 🙂
 
axm397 said:
lots of ppl swear by dansko shoes. (there's a dansko outlet in pennsylvania and the online outlet is also cheaper...) I also recommend compression hose - i wear the knee highs with my dansko shoes.

Hey Folks,

I swear by Birkenstock Bostons for operating especially on the long cases. I can slip my foot in and out for instant refreshement. The Danskos have a heel that I am not fond of. (Everyone has a preferance, I just happen to prefer Birks for long hours of standing).

If you wear compression hose or T.E.D. hose, remember to take them off periodically during the day and put them back on. I sit in the OR lounge and remove my T.E.D. hose between cases. My little ritual is to dictate the case in my barefeet. 😀

Sit when you can is also a good thing too! I also treat myself to a good pedicure. Keeping your nails well groomed and clipped can help with standing long hours.

Enjoy! It's all good!
njbmd 😎
 
Sessamoid said:
If I were an internist on an academic service, I'd conduct rounds in lounge chairs.

Hey sessamoid, for these reasons, I think that's a bad idea. We've lost too much that was good and great in American medicine.
 
Where can you buy compression hose or T.E.D. hose? I think that is a great idea.
 
Neuron said:
Hey sessamoid, for these reasons, I think that's a bad idea. We've lost too much that was good and great in American medicine.
Bedside teaching is invaluable, but I had too many internist attendings in residency and medical school who would just choose to hold hour-long discussions while standing up in the hallway. No particular reason to do it, but my feet and back were killing me at the end of the day. One particularly humane attending did the case presentation sitting at the table, then we'd all go and see the patient at the bedside after the presentation.

Bedside teaching is one of the most important parts of medical education. Many was the time that I listened to a resident or student present a case to me and realized that they were heading down the wrong diagnostic pathway. I think it was much more memorable when I didn't just tell them they were wrong, but actually brought them back to the bedside to show them how to elicit the necessary history or physical findings. Actually seeing the light go on over their heads was pretty neat. Now that I don't have academic duties anymore, I kind of miss that interaction.
 
I agree with most of what you say. My only problem with ?lounge rounds? is that all too often it stops right there ? there is no real bedside teaching.

I think this mirrors a trend in our medical education where the clinical method has been entirely sunk undersea. Fewer and fewer students get good training in taking a good history and doing a good exam. This is reflected in their increasingly poor performance ? 3rd year residents perform no better than 4th yr med students in cardiac ausculatation, recognising only 20% of abnormalities. The figure is 40% for lung sounds. There is a general ineptitude in learning to think about a clinical problem ? I have lost count of the number of students whose first reaction to mental status changes in a patient is ?let?s get a head CT?. WTF??? You wouldn?t believe the number of fourth year students I?ve had rotating through neurosurg who cannot do a half-way decent neuro exam, and I find myself having to teach them this ? they look as if they?re seeing it for the first time.

I think part of the problem is that increasingly the people who should know better, the people who should care, the people whose responsibility it is too teach us to become good doctors, don?t bother anymore. The professors themselves just scan everyone these days, order unnecessary tests. Bad habits are easy to pick up, and when students see this, they just incorporate it into their general approach to medicine.

Sorry to the OP for the digression. Pet peeve. 🙂
 
DOgator said:
Where can you buy compression hose or T.E.D. hose? I think that is a great idea.

Hi there,
You can get great compression hose in places like Sears, Wal-Mart, uniform shops or medical supply places (expensive). If you are fortunate, you can get these from the hospital that you work in. Anyplace that sells nursing shoes will have good support hose for sale too.

njbmd 🙂
 
Do people where sneakers with their tie and dress pants?
 
njbmd said:
If you are fortunate, you can get these from the hospital that you work in.

(Read: steal from the stockroom like there's no tomorrow. And do it again the next day!!!)


P.S. What the dilly-o with you and your pedicures?? 😕
 
kinetic said:
(Read: steal from the stockroom like there's no tomorrow. And do it again the next day!!!)


P.S. What the dilly-o with you and your pedicures?? 😕

Hi there,
Just spend 10 hours operating in T.E.D. hose with toenails that are too long. You end up with the same problems that marathon runners have. The poorly cut or uncut nails end up digging into your flesh. A good pedicure gets your toenails into good condition and keeps you and your feet happy. Besides, if you ever have a good pedicure, you will keep getting them. You get a good foot and leg massage built in. Great stuff if you want to take good care of your feet. Happy feet = happy surgeon!
njbmd 😀
 
(nicedream) said:
Do people where sneakers with their tie and dress pants?


I have a pair of all-black NB cross trainers that I even wore with my AF uniforms (not dress blues). They're great, shine up adequately for the AF, and are very comfortable. Plus, they actually fit my feet. I had real dress shoes (plastic, very high shine) and leather for dressy occassions, and of course flight boots for real work.

If you go to big trade shows like ComDex (in Las Vegas) you'll see the booth workers wearing suits and sneakers, since they're on their feet all day. It's odd at first
😳
 
Sadly...having a 14 EEE foot....Danskos are not in my future....any one out there with Pontoons??
 
I don't have too much of a problem with aching feet thanks to my danksos, but swear by ted hose for aching shins/legs. The best I've found are Jobst Relief style -- I like them best because they've got a reasonable amt of cotton (don't seem as warm as mostly nylon/rayon) AND the toes are cut out, which makes me VERY happy to still have the feel of cotton socks against my toes. If you work on it, you can occassionally find your size on ebay. (Do a search, save it, and have ebay email you when something new is put up -- saves you from searching yourself.)
 
Also, don't pay full price for the dansko shoes. You can get them for 30% off on danskooutlet.com, or if you live in the area, there is a dansko factory outlet selling danskos for about 50% off in pennsylvania btwn philly and lancaster. It says it's second rate shoes - but I have had my pair for 3 years now with no problems. I think most of the "damage" is cosmetic - a small scratch here, a little scuff mark there...
 
Where can I purchase Dansko shoes? Can I buy them at a store in person or must I purchase them online?
 
Thanks njbmd 🙂
 
Has anyone bought any dansko's from the online dansko outlet? Where the shoes ok? I love dansko's but was a lil weary bc the site says they do have cosmetic flaws.
 
I bought my dansko at the outlet - the cosmetic flaw was not apparent - I think it may have had a small scratch on the side...

If you don't like purchasing online, or if you don't know what size you are or how the shoes may fit - I'd go to a store and try them on. The dansko website has a store locator function. I think Nordstroms and other major department stores also carry them.
 
Also try Merrill brand shoes. The mocs are probably the most popular, but they also have clog-type slip-ons, that most people I know rave about.
 
Hahaha!! I spelled it wrong twice...ok, so I'm post-call. Merrell. There!
 
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