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Hey guys.. So this is an open thread.. lately I've became so lazy.. I get tired so soon and don't just feel like I have the energy to study.. Even if I do I study a little bit then either I quit or I change the subject. Therefore what I have read so far is not much and really not focused like a little bit of a couple of chapters. Is anybody else like this? Anyone got any advice?
 
Go to the gym, regularly. It makes a big difference
 
Or if not the gym then at least some kind of physical activity. Also be sure to eat regularly and as healthily as possible.

Plus there's just the plain reality that, depending upon where you are in the process, you're burned out and the work just sucks. Not much advice for that other than try to power through.
 
Hey guys.. So this is an open thread.. lately I've became so lazy.. I get tired so soon and don't just feel like I have the energy to study.. Even if I do I study a little bit then either I quit or I change the subject. Therefore what I have read so far is not much and really not focused like a little bit of a couple of chapters. Is anybody else like this? Anyone got any advice?

If exercise, eating healthy, and sleeping well don't work, you might want to get some blood tests. I was similarly tired during my senior year of undergrad and found out that my Ferritin levels were like half of what they should be. I began taking iron supplements and the difference was extraordinary.
 
You could start taking small doses of iron supplements on your own (or eat a steak every other day for 2-3 weeks). No need to go get your Ferritin levels checked.

Gym, sleep, food, and friends are great for getting back some energy. It could also be because you are burnt out. This will happen to everyone. The best thing to do is just keep going, and realize life is just about passing.
 
excluding disease, the best thing you can do is set schedules and commit to them, with some sacrifice at first, alas.

Like tomorrow i dont have to wake up early, set the alarm cock early nonetheless, and do something you should, like vacuum the house and then go buy lunch. Or pick up your books and go to library and then lunch at school.
 
I agree with the above posters, going to the gym makes a huge difference.

Hit the weights, brah.
 
Plus there's just the plain reality that, depending upon where you are in the process, you're burned out and the work just sucks. Not much advice for that other than try to power through.
THIS. Exercise helps. Some people are depressed (and just don't know it) - and thus pharmacotherapy helps.
 
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If exercise, eating healthy, and sleeping well don't work, you might want to get some blood tests. I was similarly tired during my senior year of undergrad and found out that my Ferritin levels were like half of what they should be. I began taking iron supplements and the difference was extraordinary.
Yeah that did cross my mind.. It might be possible since iron deficiency is quite common.
 
excluding disease, the best thing you can do is set schedules and commit to them, with some sacrifice at first, alas.

Like tomorrow i dont have to wake up early, set the alarm cock early nonetheless, and do something you should, like vacuum the house and then go buy lunch. Or pick up your books and go to library and then lunch at school.
Good advice.. Actually I think I need a logical schedule as well.
 
What time during the day do you think is the best to go to gym?
I prefer to go in the late afternoon/early evening, but whatever time you can drag your ass in there will work.
 
😀 come on.. As I'm sure you know that iron deficiency is common in both males and females who especially work in indoor places like people who go to/ work in universities.. Offices.. Any kind of building or people who are home occupied. It's common in both genders.

Uhhh I think you're confusing iron with vitamin D... Iron deficiency anemia is much much much more common in pre-menopausal women than it is in men for obvious reasons, and it has nothing to do with being indoors or outdoors. Post-menopausal women and men, it's most likely due to internal bleeding.
 
😀 come on.. As I'm sure you know that iron deficiency is common in both males and females who especially work in indoor places like people who go to/ work in universities.. Offices.. Any kind of building or people who are home occupied. It's common in both genders.
I didn't know UV light can stimulate iron production. :slap:
 
Uhhh I think you're confusing iron with vitamin D... Iron deficiency anemia is much much much more common in pre-menopausal women than it is in men for obvious reasons, and it has nothing to do with being indoors or outdoors. Post-menopausal women and men, it's most likely due to internal bleeding.
totally right.. Don't know how I mixed that up!!!
 
What time during the day do you think is the best to go to gym?
Morning workouts put me in a great mood all day, but evening workouts help me sleep better. It helps me to stick to a scheduled time of day also, some times too much flexibility makes its easy to skip a workout. I mostly workout in the morning, but I do legs in the evening since it can be pretty miserable to be on your feet after :vomit:.
As long as you go consistently you'll start to feel better. :woot:
 
Well it can't. That was probably the worst mistake I've ever made.. So stupidly and very embarrassing! I think I'm like super tired! 😀
I'm just poking fun. Nothing to take serious - and definitely don't beat yourself up over it.. Have you evaluated that you're getting enough rest, eating right, and exercising? If you already are, then that's when u look at other things. That being said I think @NickNaylor is on the mark. There's kind of a baseline tired that happens in med school which can be aggravated by sleep deprivation, call, etc. Key is to know when it's something benign vs. more serious.
 
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totally right.. Don't know how I mixed that up!!!

Don't worry it's a common mistake. I mean you need vitamin D to absorb calcium and calcium is like practically next to Fe on the periodic table* so it's easy to get VitD and Fe confused. You just need more sleep.

*They are both elements on the periodic table.
 
I'm just poking fun. Nothing to take serious - and definitely don't beat yourself up over it.. Have you evaluated that you're getting enough rest, eating right, and exercising? If you already are, then that's when u look at other things. That being said I think @NickNaylor is on the mark. There's kind of a baseline tired that happens in med school which can be aggravated by sleep deprivation, call, etc. Key is to know when it's something benign vs. more serious.
I haven't been exercising lately due to my exams and some other stuff so I know that it will be good if I start going to gym again but.. I think I am really tired cause I haven't been on my game for a while now and
my confidence is very shaky cause I haven't been keeping up to my expectations.. I think that might be a more important reason for me.. Lack of confidence and a history of middle range results which has made me feel a little disappointed I guess.
 
I exercise every morning, but I get sleepy while I am reviewing. I found that sitting on one of those giant exercise balls tends to keep me more alert, since I am not leaning back in a semi-prone position.
 
I exercise every morning, but I get sleepy while I am reviewing. I found that sitting on one of those giant exercise balls tends to keep me more alert, since I am not leaning back in a semi-prone position.
You just started med school - your workload is hardly taxing.
 
You just started med school - your workload is hardly taxing.

Workload is self imposed. What week you are in has no bearing on this. Just because I only needed to study 2 hours on day 1, doesn't mean that is all I did.

Frankly, I am tired of people "further along" continually playing the "you aren't as far along as me so you haven't seen anything yet" card. It is tired and a weak argument. Or maybe you just enjoy patronizing someone behind you in the process?
 
Hey beemo, I hope you have a wonderful time during med school, we are just telling some cautionary tales for your benefit.
It is all gonna be alright, there are just though moments, like everything in life.
 
Workload is self imposed. What week you are in has no bearing on this. Just because I only needed to study 2 hours on day 1, doesn't mean that is all I did.

Frankly, I am tired of people "further along" continually playing the "you aren't as far along as me so you haven't seen anything yet" card. It is tired and a weak argument. Or maybe you just enjoy patronizing someone behind you in the process?
There's a difference in the amt. of material 3 weeks before a test and a week before.
 
Workload is self imposed. What week you are in has no bearing on this. Just because I only needed to study 2 hours on day 1, doesn't mean that is all I did.

Frankly, I am tired of people "further along" continually playing the "you aren't as far along as me so you haven't seen anything yet" card. It is tired and a weak argument. Or maybe you just enjoy patronizing someone behind you in the process?

If you procrastinate I can see that. If you review every day, and use your weekends maximally, then you don't have to cram before your test.

I'm not downplaying the workload you have now, because getting adjusted to med school can be overwhelming. I think what DermViser might be trying to say is that you'll look back on these first 2 weeks in a year and a half and think you had all the time in the world. MS1 (and MS4) are usually the least taxing years. Right now it's taxing, but you get used to it, and you'll get used to even more.
 
I'm not downplaying the workload you have now, because getting adjusted to med school can be overwhelming. I think what DermViser might be trying to say is that you'll look back on these first 2 weeks in a year and a half and think you had all the time in the world. MS1 (and MS4) are usually the least taxing years. Right now it's taxing, but you get used to it, and you'll get used to even more.

I appreciate the way you put this Ismet, and that makes sense to me. I have noticed they are slowly ramping things up as we get into things. The original post from DermVisor was trollish at worst, and severely lacking in decorum at best.
 
I appreciate the way you put this Ismet, and that makes sense to me. I have noticed they are slowly ramping things up as we get into things.

Anatomy felt like hell while I was in it. But looking back, it was one of the easiest classes of pre-clinical. Your frame of reference will change rapidly as you go through.
 
I'm not downplaying the workload you have now, because getting adjusted to med school can be overwhelming. I think what DermViser might be trying to say is that you'll look back on these first 2 weeks in a year and a half and think you had all the time in the world. MS1 (and MS4) are usually the least taxing years. Right now it's taxing, but you get used to it, and you'll get used to even more.
Yes. Exactly. MS-1 and MS-2 are relatively controlled - you can get a good night's sleep, exercise, eat well and on time, etc. Quite a walk in the park compared to MS-3, where timings are not controlled, you're on call where sleep is sometimes a low commodity, etc.
 
Anatomy felt like hell while I was in it. But looking back, it was one of the easiest classes of pre-clinical. Your frame of reference will change rapidly as you go through.

Yes. Every class I look back on " that was easy as hell, why the hell did that seem hard at the time?"
 
Yes. Exactly. MS-1 and MS-2 are relatively controlled - you can get a good night's sleep, exercise, eat well and on time, etc. Quite a walk in the park compared to MS-3, where timings are not controlled, you're on call where sleep is sometimes a low commodity, etc.

Not to mention as others have noted sitting down and studying at the beginning of anatomy is easy and almost fun in the first few weeks but burnout becomes a real thing later on in the year. I can't imagine yet what it becomes in years 2 and 3. That new first year is just naive, and whether they like hearing it or not it's true.
 
Not to mention as others have noted sitting down and studying at the beginning of anatomy is easy and almost fun in the first few weeks but burnout becomes a real thing later on in the year. I can't imagine yet what it becomes in years 2 and 3. That new first year is just naive, and whether they like hearing it or not it's true.
Yup. And this has been well-documented in many studies about burnout and decrease in empathy in medical school. Some people will always say it's not true, and we're all making it up, but eventually the realize it, no matter what med school they go to.
 
Yup. And this has been well-documented in many studies about burnout and decrease in empathy in medical school. Some people will always say it's not true, and we're all making it up, but eventually the realize it, no matter what med school they go to.
I think it's also related to the pressure you put on yourself as well.. Some people come to med school with very high standards and goals and then they might see hey, it's not working out that great.. I think if you are not an easy going type of person it'll get hard for you from the point start unless you really know what you're doing. I think it's like that with Shjanzey, which it's pretty awesome that he knows what he is doing from the starting point, I have seen people like that and I admire them.. But he must be careful that he doesn't apply too much pressure on himself. It is great only if it doesn't mess with your mind.
 
I think it's also related to the pressure you put on yourself as well.. Some people come to med school with very high standards and goals and then they might see hey, it's not working out that great.. I think if you are not an easy going type of person it'll get hard for you from the point start unless you really know what you're doing. I think it's like that with Shjanzey, which it's pretty awesome that he knows what he is doing from the starting point, I have seen people like that and I admire them.. But he must be careful that he doesn't apply too much pressure on himself. It is great only if it doesn't mess with your mind.
Not to mention Shjanzey just started med school on Monday.
 
I exercise every morning, but I get sleepy while I am reviewing. I found that sitting on one of those giant exercise balls tends to keep me more alert, since I am not leaning back in a semi-prone position.
yeah that was a problem for me as well. It's good the first hours but I get very sleepy in the night.. Actually I quited going to gym cause though it was fun and made me feel more alert it also made me really tired and after long hours of school and then this.. How was I supposed to study anymore?! That being said.. I still think that with a good plan it's still doable.
 
Not to mention Shjanzey just started med school on Monday.
I didn't know that 😀 it's interesting. Well.. Then I would tell him you have a very long road ahead of you man towards residency.. This is just the beginning The first two years are not comparable to third year.. And this is not something we say to distinguish ourselves cause eventually everybody goes through this road. (I don't know why I talk to him while answering you! 😀 )
 
yeah that was a problem for me as well. It's good the first hours but I get very sleepy in the night.. Actually I quited going to gym cause though it was fun and made me feel more alert it also made me really tired and after long hours of school and then this.. How was I supposed to study anymore?! That being said.. I still think that with a good plan it's still doable.
I used to get tired in the lab after a workout as well. Just keep pushing through your workouts and you'll have start more stamina in all areas, at least it worked for me. Another important thing for me was to quite drinking coffee first thing in the AM. I always crashed and got sleepy, then needed more. Instead I wait until after breakfast for my first cup, then have a cup of green tea with a piece of dark chocolate in the evening if I know I'll be up late running experiments.
Its more about endurance and consistency than anything. I got burned out after my first year of grad school for being too serious and setting too high of standards for myself. I had to relearn how to work hard without putting unnecessary stress on myself, and its improved the quality of my work. I think this would apply to studying too, someone flame me if I'm way off base here.
I hope you can avoid those same mistakes OP, good luck!
 
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