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[Raryn]

So you've completed one year of residency? Many states will give you a license after one year right? Work in an icc?

Probably not if he's an IMG. The only state left that will grant an IMG a license after one year of residency is Georgia, and they have a list limited to certain foreign medical schools.

WI was the only other and they have changed their laws in the last few years.

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[Gastrapathy]

Dude gtfo of here, she hit him first he has the right to retaliate/defend himself...it's called feminism at its finest. Also I love that she hits him first but you say he needs help and don't even mention her...very fair

Defend himself = legal
Retaliate = domestic violence

I'm not saying he crossed that line but those are very different actions.

OP, I don't have specific advice but the "no letter" statement is false. They have to complete a summative eval. Your lawyer should request your training file once it's finalized so you can see what will be available. There is a small chance it won't be so terrible.

 

[michaelrack]

OP, did you actually pay a lawyer, or did you just try to get some free advice (initial consultation before giving a retainer). It's probably going to cost you a 5-10 thousand retainer to get significant help from a lawyer

 

[rambo91]

So you've completed one year of residency? Many states will give you a license after one year right? Work in an icc?

2 years to be exact. whats icc?

 

[rambo91]

OP, did you actually pay a lawyer, or did you just try to get some free advice (initial consultation before giving a retainer). It's probably going to cost you a 5-10 thousand retainer to get significant help from a lawyer

lawyer is involved, but the law is so one sided, its very difficult. Even in student's case their best case usually is going to different school.

 

[Keona]

2 years to be exact. whats icc?

Immediate care center. I'm a second year resident and can work in them unsupervised. Not sure how that would change if I wasn't a resident. I know after two years of residency I can get a full state license. I can't be board certified in my specialty though and most places want that.
Did you get credit for two years?
I just don't want to pay the extra money now for the full one.

 

[anonperson]

Since the divorce is pending.

If it's your kid, file for primary custody since you're out of a job and can actually raise the kid. Not like she can do it working as a single resident.

Collect child support.
Sue for alimony since you are a battered spouse and she caused you to lose your job. I'm sure if you have a good enough lawyer, you could try to pull this off.

Profit!

 

[rambo91]

Since the divorce is pending.

If it's your kid, file for primary custody since you're out of a job and can actually raise the kid. Not like she can do it working as a single resident.

Collect child support.
Sue for alimony since you are a battered spouse and she caused you to lose your job. I'm sure if you have a good enough lawyer, you could try to pull this off.

Profit!

yea about that, none of thats really going to boost moral, just that residency position is such a crucial thing prob nothing can replace it.

 

[hamstergang]

Immediate care center. I'm a second year resident and can work in them unsupervised. Not sure how that would change if I wasn't a resident. I know after two years of residency I can get a full state license.

If you're working as a doctor unsupervised, I don't get how you could not have a full medical license in your state. Is this ICC something through your residency? Is there a licensed doctor you can call to obtain phone supervision?

 

[Hakuna Matata]

If you're working as a doctor unsupervised, I don't get how you could not have a full medical license in your state. Is this ICC something through your residency? Is there a licensed doctor you can call to obtain phone supervision?

Everything depends on the state. In my state you get your full unrestricted license after you complete your first year of residency and pass your Step3/Level3. You can work in an ER, urgent care, you name it (does not have to be associated with your residency at all). But if you left the residency after just that 1 year, you can practice as a 'general practitioner' (again, depending on your state) but you can't get board certified in your specialty.


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[anonperson]

yea about that, none of thats really going to boost moral, just that residency position is such a crucial thing prob nothing can replace it.

Who cares about moral.
Try to get another spot but at the end of the day you gotta eat and need a roof over your head.

 

[hamstergang]

Everything depends on the state. In my state you get your full unrestricted license after you complete your first year of residency and pass your Step3/Level3. You can work in an ER, urgent care, you name it (does not have to be associated with your residency at all). But if you left the residency after just that 1 year, you can practice as a 'general practitioner' (again, depending on your state) but you can't get board certified in your specialty.

None of that addresses my point. The other poster stated he was working unsupervised without a full license. That's not legal in any state that I know of, so I thought maybe it was part of his residency and therefore technically supervised even though he thought it wasn't.

 

[Keona]

None of that addresses my point. The other poster stated he was working unsupervised without a full license. That's not legal in any state that I know of, so I thought maybe it was part of his residency and therefore technically supervised even though he thought it wasn't.

Not supervised. I have an R type license currently or a residency license I can pay more now that I've finished two years of residency to get the full license. I can call specialists if I have a question in their field but I'm not working under an attending physician. Sometimes there is an older physician there but they aren't supervising me. We get paid less without the full license.

This is separate from my residency program, we aren't supposed to represent ourselves as residents while working in an urgent care setting. It is through a separate employer entirely. We are not allowed licenses as interns in my state.

Edited to add I looked up the statute and the moonlighting in an urgent care is at a facility approved by my program director. I have a letter from my program giving me permission to moonlight.

 

[LucidSplash]

Not supervised. I have an R type license currently or a residency license I can pay more now that I've finished two years of residency to get the full license. I can call specialists if I have a question in their field but I'm not working under an attending physician. Sometimes there is an older physician there but they aren't supervising me. We get paid less without the full license.

This is separate from my residency program, we aren't supposed to represent ourselves as residents while working in an urgent care setting. It is through a separate employer entirely. We are not allowed licenses as interns in my state.

Edited to add I looked up the statute and the moonlighting in an urgent care is at a facility approved by my program director. I have a letter from my program giving me permission to moonlight.

What state are you in? This seems like a very odd setup to me. I have never heard of working independently without an unrestricted license. We are all familiar with what moonlighting is and many of us have done it once we passed Step 3 and have an unrestricted (not residency or training) license. But I have never heard of a state that lets a resident work unsupervised/outside their residency without an unrestricted license.

Edit to add: sorry just realized this wasn't the original thread topic. @Keona maybe you should reply only once here vs start your own thread on the topic. I think others might be interested in your answer.

 

[Keona]

What state are you in? This seems like a very odd setup to me. I have never heard of working independently without an unrestricted license. We are all familiar with what moonlighting is and many of us have done it once we passed Step 3 and have an unrestricted (not residency or training) license. But I have never heard of a state that lets a resident work unsupervised/outside their residency without an unrestricted license.

Edit to add: sorry just realized this wasn't the original thread topic. @Keona maybe you should reply only once here vs start your own thread on the topic. I think others might be interested in your answer.

It would make my identity too obvious, I was only replying to this to help OP feel like they did have options.

 

[LucidSplash]

It would make my identity too obvious, I was only replying to this to help OP feel like they did have options.

For the benefit of anyone that is wondering about this situation:

I looked up the link you sent. That state's residency license is for residents who have completed one year of postgraduate training and are currently in a residency program. There is apparently a different license for interns which does not permit any moonlighting (which makes sense because it's not permitted by ACGME either) and is automatically granted to interns when doing an internship in that state. The one you have also allows for moonlighting under the specific permission of the PD. Once you have completed 2 years of training and passed Step 3, you are expected to apply for a regular medical license.

What you are doing would not be an option for the OP as it requires that you be a resident and have specific permission from a PD to work there and the OP doesn't have a residency program so they would have neither.