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[GoBeaux]

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anyone have the contact info for the admissions ppl at uthsc-sa, baylor?

i have the general email address that they post on their websites (e.g. [email protected]) but i'm looking for names and numbers.

thanks

 

[thanksd]

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[RSimon]

Hey guys, just wanted to vent a little since I'm getting impatient waiting to hear back from Houston and Baylor and of all people, you guys probably understand the best =).

I submitted my application May 31st and it was transmitted to the schools June 19th. I interviewed a month back at S.A. and thought that I would be hearing back from Baylor and Houston soon after. That has not been the case and now I'm starting to get worried if I made the right decision applying to only 3 schools.

I felt I had a strong credentials (22AA, 21TS, 22PAT, 3.75 GPA) and thought when I finished the DAT back in June, that I should be good to go since last year, of the 1000 students that applied, only 57 were 21AA+ and 41 matriculated. I also have 100+ hours shadowing and volunteer activities.

I contacted both schools a couple of weeks back, and they told me my application was being reviewed, but I'm getting antsy as the weeks pass and other people are getting interviews who had their applications transmitted after mine. BTW, congratulations to you guys and best of luck on interviews! =) I hope to join y'all in the future!

Anyways, end vent. Thanks for listening my fellow future dentists hopefuls.

Now see thats very frustrating, I too have 20+ scores and have only heard from SA. However, three other students from my school have 17AA's and have gotten interviews at Baylor and Houston. Nothing against anyone that gets and interview with lower scores but I just don't really understand the logic on the schools part. Only thing I can think of is race and gender and meeting certain quotas.

Just be patient is all I can say, I would not call the schools anymore it may come across negatively in the long run. Don't forget that we are still pretty early in to interview and have another 4 months or so to hear something.

 

[thanksd]

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[RSimon]

Thanks for the friendly ear. I forgot to mention I am a non-traditional applicant (old fogie) with a non-bio degree (i.e. pre-reqs only).

Since I'm non-traditional, Baylor said I may hear in September if they give me an interview so I do have 2 more weeks, but Houston has been MIA. I know there are pro's and con's to being non-bio, but as mentioned by others, there are people who get in with bare minimum. I have a friend who got into Baylor in 2001 with bare minimum courses and a math degree. We'll see...🙁

The students that get interviews/accepted and scrape by with bare minimum is very frustrating...what makes them a better candidate than me? I dont think age should matter unless you are to the point where going into debt and the years you will be practicing makes it sort of pointless. I feel that the most qualified people should be interviewed and accepted assuming that they have some sort of personality and common sense. If it were up to me I would remove the following from our applications: Name, Age, Race, Gender, income and housing value, and especially the URM status. All that should be on there is a social security number for them to look up that information once an applicant is selected based on merit and performance. People say that those things do not play a role but personally I feel that its BS and they have certain quotas to fill. If I am not a strong applicant I expect not to get accepted and be required to strengthen my application for the next cycle simple as that.

 

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[txlonghorn]

Although I agree with some of your latter points (and I am not trying to start a debate), your first sentence came off to me that you are frustrated that students with minimum pre-reqs scrape by to get in while you have more biology classes. So I'd ask the same question in reverse, why would someone in my position make me a lesser candidate?

While working a 50 hour/week job, I pursued night courses every night for 2 years and not only achieved A's, but maintained to be at the top 3 people in each course. In addition, I studied for an entrance exam that comprised of material from completely different subjects than my undergrad degree (of which I only had the bare minimum) and achieved 21-24 for each section (less 1 section). In addition, I exhausted my vacation days to shadow and volunteer to keep up with traditional students.

If you were in my shoes and found out that you wanted to pursue dentistry later in life, would you want them to require 45+ hours of biology you didn't have? They have requirements, and I've met them. I also have an undergraduate degree and maintained a high GPA. I've proven my determination for dental school. I'm not a genius by any means, but I've worked hard to achieve where I'm at now. If schools need to determine my character, then that should be where the interview comes in.

Just my $0.02. BTW, if I came off in my previous post that older applicants are better candidates, that was not my intent. I was just posing a thought that perhaps that's why I haven't heard back because I know some schools such as Baylor bring in non-traditionals at the same time on a later date and wanted some opinions.

I agree! 👍 I don't understand why Baylor prefers students with tons of bio classes 😕 I understand classes like physiology and anatomy, but why would they like to see classes such as cell bio? Are we really going to be using techniques such as FRET and chromatography in dental school?

 

[jirotrom]

I agree! 👍 I don't understand why Baylor prefers students with tons of bio classes 😕 I understand classes like physiology and anatomy, but why would they like to see classes such as cell bio? Are we really going to be using techniques such as FRET and chromatography in dental school?

To my knowledge Baylor likes that you have many sciences because they are a school that is very lab intensive in addition to the science courses. If you have seen many of the courses before it will be a much smoother ride at the school there. I believe Houston and SA dont do nearly as many labs, actually not many schools do at all. So you're doing quite a bit more work at Baylor than others.

This is just one of the factors though, that I know is true as I've spoken with many students there about the courseload.

Another issue is the rest of the app, I was told point blank by a professor at Baylor that the personal statement is very, very, important. As well as the app presentation. They said they basically toss out around half or more apps if there are spelling and punctuation mistakes. That dentistry is a precise art and not being precise and clean in the app dose not bode well. Not saying that you all have this issue, but its just stuff to think about.

Be real thankful if you even have one interview, I know I am because that in and of itself is challenging considering the number of applicants.

 

[slm266]

Is there an easy way to print off the entire TMDSAS app? The chronology only displays the first 50 characters.

 

[Denteeth]

Thanks for the friendly ear. I forgot to mention I am a non-traditional applicant (old fogie) with a non-bio degree (i.e. pre-reqs only).

Since I'm non-traditional, Baylor said I may hear in September if they give me an interview so I do have 2 more weeks, but Houston has been MIA. I know there are pro's and con's to being non-bio, but as mentioned by others, there are people who get in with bare minimum. I have a friend who got into Baylor in 2001 with bare minimum courses and a math degree. We'll see...🙁

Houston hasn't really been MIA - they have been interviewing almost 20-25 students for past 4-5 weeks on every Monday.

Regarding BIO courses requirements - it is not just the Baylor that requires several advanced courses, Houston and SA both will give preference to students who have taken courses like immunology, biochem, cell bio, genetics etc. because these courses will help you tremendously when you actually take some of these course in ds and trust me they are like 10x harder.
good luck!

 

[tdh278]

Yes theres a view entire application link above the announcements on the homepage. When you click on that it'll create a pdf of your app so you can save and print.

ps also I had problems opening up the pdf in mozilla but it worked fine in IE

 

[slm266]

Yes theres a view entire application link above the announcements on the homepage. When you click on that it'll create a pdf of your app so you can save and print.

ps also I had problems opening up the pdf in mozilla but it worked fine in IE

awesome, thanks

 

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[NAVY DDS 2010]

To my knowledge Baylor likes that you have many sciences because they are a school that is very lab intensive in addition to the science courses. If you have seen many of the courses before it will be a much smoother ride at the school there. I believe Houston and SA dont do nearly as many labs, actually not many schools do at all. So you're doing quite a bit more work at Baylor than others.

This is just one of the factors though, that I know is true as I've spoken with many students there about the courseload.

I just went to the BCD website and compared the course load of BCD and UTDB. For the most part, the programs are very similar. BCD does have labs in Physiology and micro that we do not have, but in manner should taking a bunch of extra science course be needed for that. Af far as BCD being lab intensive, I bet you are referring to the requirements for prosth once in the clinic. if this is what you are referring to, then I can guarantee having more science courses in undergrad in no way will help anyones ability. There was no science course that I took in science course that prepared me for doing lab work in dental school. Well, actually, physics was probably the most helpful for dental school (being able to understand forces applied and how it can affect occlusion and distributed occlusal forces). But in no way would that be necessary. You can easily learn what you need about forces while in dental school.

IF it is true that BCD does prefer students to have a lot more science courses than Houston ro SA, the reason cannot be because of more lab courses because that just isn't the case.

 

[alanan84]

I agree! 👍 I don't understand why Baylor prefers students with tons of bio classes 😕 I understand classes like physiology and anatomy, but why would they like to see classes such as cell bio? Are we really going to be using techniques such as FRET and chromatography in dental school?

I think it's plain and simply because they've found that students with a strong science background (and that doesn't JUST mean a good TS score on the DAT, or meeting the minimum prereqs) have less problems with the curriculum. And having been here for a month I can totally see how that's the case. The Gross Anatomy course here sucks all your time and is largely new material for everyone. I can see how if you've never learned fatty acid catabolism or the pentose phosphate pathway, you would struggle a little more not just in biochem, but in the other classes as well. Being in class from 8 - 5 really limits the amount of time you have to study and if you end up having to spend twice as long with gluconeogenesis as everyone else, you're behind.

 

[Denteeth]

I think it's plain and simply because they've found that students with a strong science background (and that doesn't JUST mean a good TS score on the DAT, or meeting the minimum prereqs) have less problems with the curriculum. And having been here for a month I can totally see how that's the case. The Gross Anatomy course here sucks all your time and is largely new material for everyone. I can see how if you've never learned fatty acid catabolism or the pentose phosphate pathway, you would struggle a little more not just in biochem, but in the other classes as well. Being in class from 8 - 5 really limits the amount of time you have to study and if you end up having to spend twice as long with gluconeogenesis as everyone else, you're behind.

I can totally attest what Alan stated above^ about the rigorous nature of workload in ds!

There are some in my class who are really hurting bad even though utdb asked them to take some of these classes at utdb during the summer before the actual school started….

 

[jirotrom]

To my knowledge Baylor likes that you have many sciences because they are a school that is very lab intensive in addition to the science courses. If you have seen many of the courses before it will be a much smoother ride at the school there. I believe Houston and SA dont do nearly as many labs, actually not many schools do at all. So you're doing quite a bit more work at Baylor than others.

This is just one of the factors though, that I know is true as I've spoken with many students there about the courseload.

I just went to the BCD website and compared the course load of BCD and UTDB. For the most part, the programs are very similar. BCD does have labs in Physiology and micro that we do not have, but in manner should taking a bunch of extra science course be needed for that. Af far as BCD being lab intensive, I bet you are referring to the requirements for prosth once in the clinic. if this is what you are referring to, then I can guarantee having more science courses in undergrad in no way will help anyones ability. There was no science course that I took in science course that prepared me for doing lab work in dental school. Well, actually, physics was probably the most helpful for dental school (being able to understand forces applied and how it can affect occlusion and distributed occlusal forces). But in no way would that be necessary. You can easily learn what you need about forces while in dental school.

IF it is true that BCD does prefer students to have a lot more science courses than Houston ro SA, the reason cannot be because of more lab courses because that just isn't the case.

this is it I believe... its not that the science will help the prosth, its more that the prosth takes away from study time. The Baylor students I spoke with the biggest annoyance they had was when working on all the prosth work when they felt they needed to be studying for other classes. Its more a time management thing... The sciences aid in the study process because of familiarity. I'm just going by what Dr. Miller basically said.

 

[RSimon]

Although I agree with some of your latter points (and I am not trying to start a debate), your first sentence came off to me that you are frustrated that students with minimum pre-reqs scrape by to get in while you have more biology classes. So I'd ask the same question in reverse, why would someone in my position make me a lesser candidate?

While working a 50 hour/week job, I pursued night courses every night for 2 years and not only achieved A's, but maintained to be at the top 3 people in each course. In addition, I studied for an entrance exam that comprised of material from completely different subjects than my undergrad degree (of which I only had the bare minimum) and achieved 21-24 for each section (less 1 section). In addition, I exhausted my vacation days to shadow and volunteer to keep up with traditional students.

If you were in my shoes and found out that you wanted to pursue dentistry later in life, would you want them to require 45+ hours of biology you didn't have? They have requirements, and I've met them. I also have an undergraduate degree and maintained a high GPA. I've proven my determination for dental school. I'm not a genius by any means, but I've worked hard to achieve where I'm at now. If schools need to determine my character, then that should be where the interview comes in.

Just my $0.02. BTW, if I came off in my previous post that older applicants are better candidates, that was not my intent. I was just posing a thought that perhaps that's why I haven't heard back because I know some schools such as Baylor bring in non-traditionals at the same time on a later date and wanted some opinions.

I think I left a few words out in my first few sentences that made it come accross poorly. I in no way was attacking you but trying to somewhat relate to you. All I was referring to by scraping by with the bare minimum was GPA and DAT scores and still getting accepted. Pre-reqs are what we are judged on and thats somewhat of a predictor to how well students will do in medical/dental school. I applaud you for taking the chance and working so hard to completely start over and that says a lot about you.

 

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[slm266]

Adcoms are constantly analyzing the correlation of certain admissions criteria to future success in dental school. I'm pretty sure they can do a much better job than we can, so its pointless to whine and complain about areas that we may not be as "qualified" as another applicant.

RSimon, your comments about "the most qualified" applicants really shows a lack of understanding of texas schools' admissions philosophy. You are viewing acceptance into dental school as a gift that should go to the person that deserves it the most.

I think that admissions view it more on a level of "who will represent our school best and fulfill their purpose of serving the entire population of Texas". Yes, I'm sure they do face pressures and quotas from the State. However, by your own logic, the hundreds of OOS applicants with better stats than you should receive preference over you because they are more qualified.

None of us are complaining about the fact that we receive better treatment as Texas residents. We don't feel bad because we know that we are more likely to stay in Texas after dental school and serve the people here. Likewise, a diverse dental class increases the chances that the URM populations in Texas will be served by compassionate dentists. The last thing schools want is to turn out 100 white male dentists each year who only want to do veneers and implants for the rich.

 

[solstice]

I can totally attest what Alan stated above^ about the rigorous nature of workload in ds!

There are some in my class who are really hurting bad even though utdb asked them to take some of these classes at utdb during the summer before the actual school started….

Hey Denteeth, Are you a DS1 at UTDB? So UTDB had some science summer courses for some of the students? Was it invitation based or some people knew about it and participated?

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

this is it I believe... its not that the science will help the prosth, its more that the prosth takes away from study time. The Baylor students I spoke with the biggest annoyance they had was when working on all the prosth work when they felt they needed to be studying for other classes. Its more a time management thing... The sciences aid in the study process because of familiarity. I'm just going by what Dr. Miller basically said.

I can tell you this from experience since I am in the clinic and have didactic courses as well. At this point in the dental education, there is absolutely NOTHING from your undergrad education that will prepare you for the classes you are taking in your 3rd and 4th years. If you have made it this far in your dental education, whether you were a science major, a French major, a business major or a History major, then it really doesn't matter during the clinic years. If you have a lot of prosth work, then the amount of time you spend on doing the lab work (and away from studying) depends on your hand skills and how anal retentive you aer about the work you produce. Once you have reached the clinical years of your education, you are no longer in the basic sciences which are the courses you can be exposed to in undergrad. Once in the clinic years, the courses are dental related. By this point, it really doesn't matter if you have a bunch of science courses. You are learning totally new stuff.

I disagree that you need to be heavily science oriented to attend Baylor if the reason is based on a reason as mentioned in the post quoted above.

 

[Denteeth]

Hey Denteeth, Are you a DS1 at UTDB? So UTDB had some science summer courses for some of the students? Was it invitation based or some people knew about it and participated?

Dude.....I heard it was suggested/recommended to some students and I don't want to start a war but you can guess who 'those' students are.... just ask them in your class and they will tell you.....

how are Physiology and microB classes coming along 😳)

 

[jirotrom]

I can tell you this from experience since I am in the clinic and have didactic courses as well. At this point in the dental education, there is absolutely NOTHING from your undergrad education that will prepare you for the classes you are taking in your 3rd and 4th years. If you have made it this far in your dental education, whether you were a science major, a French major, a business major or a History major, then it really doesn't matter during the clinic years. If you have a lot of prosth work, then the amount of time you spend on doing the lab work (and away from studying) depends on your hand skills and how anal retentive you aer about the work you produce. Once you have reached the clinical years of your education, you are no longer in the basic sciences which are the courses you can be exposed to in undergrad. Once in the clinic years, the courses are dental related. By this point, it really doesn't matter if you have a bunch of science courses. You are learning totally new stuff.

I disagree that you need to be heavily science oriented to attend Baylor if the reason is based on a reason as mentioned in the post quoted above.

I dont want to argue as you know way more about the system than I do (no sarcasm being very serious) but I thought the dental school students at Baylor have a ton of prosth work beginning in their first year? If this is the case would not having a strong science background be helpful in giving you some familiarity reducing study time for your lecture classes a bit allowing you to more easily manage your time in the day? I was just always told that Baylor does more prosth work than the other schools that they even joke about having a prosth residency right out of dental school.

 

[slm266]

I dont want to argue as you know way more about the system than I do (no sarcasm being very serious) but I thought the dental school students at Baylor have a ton of prosth work beginning in their first year? If this is the case would not having a strong science background be helpful in giving you some familiarity reducing study time for your lecture classes a bit allowing you to more easily manage your time in the day?

+1

Of course being very familiar with the krebs cycle won't affect you in the clinic, it will help you in your first year of dental school (somewhat).

Baylor's website says to increase chances of admission, an applicant will have "upper-division biological science courses similar to those taken by the first-year dental students."

The first 2 years of dental school are supposed to be the hardest, so previous exposure to many of the first year courses should correlate with success there.

 

[Baylor2011]

Just had my UTHSCSA interview earlier today and just wanted to let everybody know that it seems like an excellent school, all the students seem really happy about their choice, the faculty was extremely nice, and my interviewers (Dr. Haney and a D3) were awesome. Interviews were very relaxed and they basically just wanted to see if I could carry a conversation, and think quickly on my feet and respond...Nothing to worry about here, just enjoy it if you get an interview!

 

[kkmaths90]

Had an interview yesterday with Houston. Dr. Pierpont and Dr. Jeske both were just absolutely amazing, and of course all other faculty members and students were very nice too. I am from San Antonio, but I had great time there in Houston Dental Branch.

 

[skifastrokclimb]

Hey Denteeth, Are you a DS1 at UTDB? So UTDB had some science summer courses for some of the students? Was it invitation based or some people knew about it and participated?

I am and I've heard nothing about this, which doesn't mean it is not the case.

how are Physiology and microB classes coming along 😳)

They suck. Physio is easy material but they managed to screw us on the first test by writing questions that allow you to narrow down to a 50/50 where neither answer is fully correct. Micro/Immuno is just hard. We covered a semester of immunology in a few weeks and had a killer test on it. The micro component that we are on now is easier.

 

[tkylen]

The Houston interview is very similar to the other Texas schools. You'll interview with one professor for about 30 minutes. Have answers for the obvious questions like "What got you interested in dentistry," etc. Also, I was asked questions about grades and my personal statement, which was not necessarily the case at other schools. I was also asked a lot of general academic questions like "How do you study?" and "How do you deal with stress?" It's not difficult, you'll be fine.

Contact UTDB to see if they have hotel discounts in the area, as everything in the med center / west U is expensive.

Good luck!

Is there a student interview or Is it just ONE 1-to-1 interview with a faculty member?

 

[tkylen]

Hey there future dentists, congrats to everyone so far that has received an interview so far.

I have an interview on the 27th at San Antonio, for those that have already interviewed there im just curious as to what the day format is like and whether you actually interview with multiple people or just one? One of my friends interviewed at Houston and she said it was basically just an hour long conversation with one person about her and her life, no hard questions just really straightforward.

Any advice?

You'll have an orientation about the dental program, financial aid etc in the morning, then lunch with some dental students. You'll get a 30 min interview with a faculty member and 30 min interview with a student (D3 or D4). You'll get a tour of the school and a writing sample at the end of the day. San Antonio is very relaxing, they interview you as much as they want you to interview them. Good luck

 

[Astros1fan]

Is there a student interview or Is it just ONE 1-to-1 interview with a faculty member?

You only have a faculty interview for about 30-45 min.

 

[DK72003]

My application was transmitted on 9/3/2010. I received interview invitation from Baylor even with only two rec letters 🙂 I'm so excited yet scared. Any Baylor interview pointers? anyone?

 

[txlonghorn]

Man, they have had my scores for a while now, but have not given me an invite. I am now 100% sure it is due to not having a ton of upper div science credits.

 

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[tkylen]

You only have a faculty interview for about 30-45 min.

sounds good. Thanks.

 

[txlonghorn]

+1 man. 🙁 I think we're in the same boat. I'll keep you updated if I heard from Baylor or Houston. Please do the same.

Will do bud!

On another note, my fiancé got an interview invite for UTHSCSA for Oct 8th.

 

[Baylor2011]

On another note, my fiancé got an interview invite for UTHSCSA for Oct 8th.

Congrats! I had my interview there Monday and I had a really good time...hope he/she likes it!

 

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[toothy87]

does any of the three dental schools accept people who will not be graduation by time of admittance ? I got interviews in the 3 of the dental school and I have not graduated/will not be gradutating ...what do u guys think?
I am a transfer student from an over-seas dental school and I've taken ALL sorts of higher biology classes.like 80 hours transferred beside my prereqs

 

[coolbeans123]

My application was transmitted on 9/3/2010. I received interview invitation from Baylor even with only two rec letters 🙂 I'm so excited yet scared. Any Baylor interview pointers? anyone?

Just relax. The three interviews are really nice and no weird/crazy/super tough questions. Besides the interview, you take a tour, eat some lunch, and just walk around the school. It's pretty much how you imagine the typical interview.

Talk to your fellow interviewees and make friends. You'll be spending alot of the day together. It's 10x better when everyone gets to know each other. Good luck!

 

[coolbeans123]

+1 man. 🙁 I think we're in the same boat. I'll keep you updated if I heard from Baylor or Houston. Please do the same.

Man, they have had my scores for a while now, but have not given me an invite. I am now 100% sure it is due to not having a ton of upper div science credits.

I think this whole waiting thing's driving everyone a little crazy. Just sit back and relax a little bit. Plenty of people get interviews in late September, October, and November and still get in. There's nothing you can do to speed up the process and worrying/stressing isn't going to get you anywhere. If that interview email comes, great. If not, then you just have to wait. We're all in the same boat.

 

[Baylor2011]

Houston - Please look at my application this weekend and send me an invite next week 🙂 I'm going crazy waiting!

I think this whole waiting thing's driving everyone a little crazy. Just sit back and relax a little bit. Plenty of people get interviews in late September, October, and November and still get in. There's nothing you can do to speed up the process and worrying/stressing isn't going to get you anywhere. If that interview email comes, great. If not, then you just have to wait. We're all in the same boat.

Just for you coolbeans 😉 True post though, everybody needs to relax...TX schools are known to be a little slower than the rest of the nation, especially Houston

 

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[slm266]

Hopefully it's not 100% based on first come, first served.

It's not. For example, I know baylor may interview you later if you are already graduated because they prefer students to not be out of school for very long before matriculation.

Dont worry, it'll come.

 

[HoustonDAT]

Houston - Please look at my application this weekend and send me an invite next week 🙂 I'm going crazy waiting!



Just for you coolbeans 😉 True post though, everybody needs to relax...TX schools are known to be a little slower than the rest of the nation, especially Houston

It sucks that TX schools are the slowest, because that forces all of us to spend $$$ on going to out of state interviews, when the majority of us on this thread want to stay in state. If they were a little quicker about their application process, that would allow us to be more selective as to what interviews to attend....assuming I get 15 invites

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

It sucks that TX schools are the slowest, because that forces all of us to spend $$$ on going to out of state interviews, when the majority of us on this thread want to stay in state. If they were a little quicker about their application process, that would allow us to be more selective as to what interviews to attend....assuming I get 15 invites

I am not trying to be negative towards your comment, but the schools aren't slow. Every week, a new group of faces graces the hallways of our school. The schools are inviting people they feel are a fit for their school. I am not saying you wouldn't be a fit, but right now you must not fit the exact criteria they are looking for. Just be patient. If you were meant to go to school here, you'll get your day of glory.

Also, the schools aren't forcing you to do anything. With a 3.09 GPA, it is of your best interest to apply to OOS/private schools to increase the odds.

 

[HoustonDAT]

Also, the schools aren't forcing you to do anything. With a 3.09 GPA, it is of your best interest to apply to OOS/private schools to increase the odds.

With a 4.0 GPA my last three years of school, I've done my part. I can't really change what initially happened in undergrad. So, I am well aware of what I have to do, and I am well aware of my own interests. Thanks for your unsolicited "advice". I also understand that TMDSAS processes thousands of applications, but taking over 6 weeks to submit my application to the schools is SLOW IMO. I hope I have as much time as you to "advise" predents when I'm in D-school.

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

With a 4.0 GPA my last three years of school, I've done my part. I can't really change what initially happened in undergrad. So, I am well aware of what I have to do, and I am well aware of my own interests. Thanks for your unsolicited "advice". I also understand that TMDSAS processes thousands of applications, but taking over 6 weeks to submit my application to the schools is SLOW IMO. I hope I have as much time as you to "advise" predents when I'm in D-school.

If you post here and make comments here, then it is solicited for anyone who chooses to comment. If you are going to make a negative comment ( TX schools being the slowest) when it isn't true, you need to be corrected. Plus, in your last post as mentioned above, it is TMDSAS that is slowing the process - not the schools.

As far as having "as much time as" me, you really can pick and choose to spend your time as you wish. I don't plan on specializing, so it doesn't matter to me that I be the best in the class. I choose to spend some of my time doing something I want to do. I jump on here if I have a few minutes in between classes, working with patients, doing lab work, playing with and feeding my children, spending time with my wife, exercising and studying. I choose not to do other things that other classmates do in their spare time. I really don't spend a whole lot of time on here collectively.

 

[Noble6]

With a 4.0 GPA my last three years of school, I've done my part. I can't really change what initially happened in undergrad. So, I am well aware of what I have to do, and I am well aware of my own interests. Thanks for your unsolicited "advice". I also understand that TMDSAS processes thousands of applications, but taking over 6 weeks to submit my application to the schools is SLOW IMO. I hope I have as much time as you to "advise" predents when I'm in D-school.

Hmm, let's see. TMDSAS opens in May. You didn't submit till August and then you want them to hurry it up. Baylor moves fast through their apps, Houston is a little slower but they give everyone a good look. Just be patient.