To those of you accepted into clinical PhD programs, where did you RA?

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It seems like getting "prestigious" RAships is getting harder these days..

For those of you in a PhD programs/accepted into them:: Where are you going and where did you do your RA ship? Was it in the specific area of study youre pursuing now?

I am finding it hard to secure a FT RA position in my area of interest (anxiety DOs)- particularly in the locations in which I want to live. How much does it matter that:

a) I work with a prestigious researcher/ in a well-known lab
and

b) that I work in my specific area of interest?

I have interviews in the fields of addictions, perinatal depression, and self-injurious behaviors. I am interested in all of these areas, but my *primary* interest & passion is in anxiety DOs.

I want to pursue primarily a research career, and top programs for me as of now include Boston University, UCSD, UCLA, Temple, Northwestern -- although I realize these are super-difficult to get into.

Thanks for your help!!

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Hi,
I am a grad school at a pretty big research university, in the clinical psych dept. I can tell you that i know exactly what you're going through (well, at least I think I do), because I remember being at your stage and worrying about exactly the same things. My experience has told me that IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER! I didn't work for people who do the same research as I'm doing now, and I don't think my advisor cared, nor did the advisor at the other program I got into. Also, I see other people in my program and know what they did before they came, and I think, "what the hell was I so worried about?!?!?" As long as you show you are a serious applicant and that you are really interested in psychology and in research when you interview, it should be ok. It's important that your GPA and GRE scores are good but the rest sort of falls into place on its own.

In our program, this is how it goes:

First, the school get TONS of applications. What they do first is look at all the students who fit above a certain cut (this is why GPA and GRE are important). Then they look at letters of recommendations (also VERY important). I didn't have a letter from a very well known person--I just had good letters. Then, I believe it's up to each advisor to choose how many applicants they want to interview and extend invites to. This depends on the needs of the lab -- how many students they already have, how many they need, how they want the build of their lab to be like (females and males, research interests--but not experience, just interests).

What's really important after you've made the cut is just that the school is a "good fit" .I think a lot of times, this depends on your personality. really! once you get an interview, it's really your personality that counts, and how the other grad students in the lab view you. Your research interests are important too, but this can be demonstrated through ways other than your previous research job.

Ironically, I was an RA for 3 years before grad school, and I think that taking more time off and learning more before grad school has actually hurt me. The program wants to shape you according to their views. They don't want someone who knows the stuff well enough to argue with them or ask too many smart-assed questions. They just want to do their research and hopefully graduate some good researchers as well. If you show you like research and you are interested in their research, that's all you need (after GPA and GRE scores). They know you don't have the experience -- that's why you're going to grad school! The reason I think people say you should be an RA before grad school is, I think, so that they know you have seen the world of research and still want to go into it, because it's rough world to be in. However, I must say that there are plenty of students in my cohort who only did one year or who didn't RA at all before grad school.

I know I'm rambling on, but the upshot is that you need good GPA and GRE scores, good letters of recommendation, and a high level of enthusiasm.

Also, if you are worried about getting at least a little experience with anxiety d/o's, one thing you can do is try to ask your new boss if you could do some sort of personal project on the side that is related to their interests but also incorporates anxiety disorders. Always remember there is a lot of comorbidity in psych. Addictions is def related to anxiety! So is depression and most disorders. See if they will let you do a paper on the side with them that talks about anxiety within their relm of research. Or, see if your boss knows others in the field who do anxiety disorders and would be willing to talk with you. Making contacts is always good, and they may have more input.

So, I hope I have helped and eased some of your worries. Let me know if you have any specific questions!
 
I'm also in a similar position right now. My area of interest is depression but there doesn't seem to be anything available in the Bay Area in California. Is it more beneficial to volunteer at a lab that researches depression or find a FT RA position at a lab that does something different (like dementia)?
 
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how good for the GREs? i think i've got competitive Math, Verbal, and Psych scores but just wanted to know if there's a good range to be in overall?
 
My quant was below the 50th percentile and I still got interviews.
 
I think working with a prestigious person/lab is important, as networking is important given the abundance of apps out there. Working in your particular field of interest not so much, as long as you have answers to interview questions involving the reason for what RA position you're doing and how your previous training will make you a good grad student in anxiety (e.g., I took this position because it looked interesting and was located near my family, but my long term interest is in anxiety. I learned many quantitative skills and saw substance use correlates of anxiety, which led to hypotheses A B and C ...)
 
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I'm also in a similar position right now. My area of interest is depression but there doesn't seem to be anything available in the Bay Area in California.

What exactly are you looking for? Do you need a paid junior specialist position or can you volunteer some time in a lab? There are some highly regarded labs in the SF Bay Area doing psychopathology research. Ian Gotlib at Stanford is well known: http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~mood/index.html

And I thought Jutta Joormann was coming to UC Berkeley. If not, Sheri Johnson researches mostly mood disorders, I think.
 
Thanks! I will look look into your suggestions. Right now I'm looking for a paid RA position but I will probably volunteer if I can't find a job. Hopefully it won't come to that...haha.


What exactly are you looking for? Do you need a paid junior specialist position or can you volunteer some time in a lab? There are some highly regarded labs in the SF Bay Area doing psychopathology research. Ian Gotlib at Stanford is well known: http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~mood/index.html

And I thought Jutta Joormann was coming to UC Berkeley. If not, Sheri Johnson researches mostly mood disorders, I think.
 
I am starting grad school this fall (yay!) and did my RA at a VA Hospital affiliated with a university. It had pretty much nothing to do with my area of interest (the research was on cognitive deficits and physiological measures in schizophrenia...my interests are in children's social relationships). But the reason I took the job is because it offered some really awesome and unique clinical and research training. Plus, graduate school is an enormous commitment and I wanted exposure to a wide range of populations and research before making a decision about what field I go into. I was kind of testing my focus by trying something interesting and totally different. I think some schools saw this as scattered, but others saw it as having a wide background and a willingness to learn new things. I think that if you choose an RA job that is outside of your area, make sure it is giving some really strong and unique skills and that you can relate it (in some distant way) to what you want to study. It's not an ideal situation but it's doable.
 
okay well that makes me feel better. :)

Glad to hear :D Just to let you know, I was over 1200 because my verbal was high. Just be strategic about it--I made sure to apply to schools with low or no GRE cutoff. However, I got interviews at two places that supposedly cut off at the 50th percentile, so I have no idea if that criteria was looser than they specified, or if they made an exception for me.

My GRE also never came up at interviews, so I really think it's true: once you make the cutoff, you're fine.
 
Thanks! I will look look into your suggestions. Right now I'm looking for a paid RA position but I will probably volunteer if I can't find a job. Hopefully it won't come to that...haha.


Jutta Joormann is now at the University of Miami, I'm an undergrad RA in her lab :). She was at Stanford originally, but to the best of my knowledge she is staying here for the time being.

I've heard them mention Sheri's name many many times in lab meetings, I do believe she is still there.

Good luck! :D
 
Jutta Joormann is now at the University of Miami, I'm an undergrad RA in her lab :). She was at Stanford originally, but to the best of my knowledge she is staying here for the time being.

I've heard them mention Sheri's name many many times in lab meetings, I do believe she is still there.

Good luck! :D

Thanks for the info!
 
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