Today in vet school I learned...

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nyanko said:
This is my main take home message more or less every single day.
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i've accepted the fact that i am very stupid. it happened a long time ago haha.

this particular reference was to my radiology lab class the other day. we had a large animal surgery exam that afternoon and as labs and classes (mostly) are not mandatory, in true style 2/3rds of my class didnt come. this professor is also a poor teacher and more than half of us look at a horse and think alien so i can understand why no one came (also apparently last weeks session went over by 45 mins). upon seeing such poor attendance, he proclaimed "this is stupid. you are stupid." and then wandered off to get set up. probably not very motivational to tell the attending students they are stupid when they actually dragged themselves out of bed to come to lab...
 
jmo1012 said:
probably not very motivational to tell the attending students they are stupid when they actually dragged themselves out of bed to come to lab...
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Right? We had a teacher once who was mad at the number of people that skipped, and somewhere toward the last 1/3rd of his lecture just kinda said "Oh well, since so many people are gone you all can just read the rest of these slides on your own."

Way to go, prof. You just punished all of us who DID show up by reinforcing that there was no point in coming, since you decided to blow off the lecture 2/3rds of the way through.

It's always really interesting to see which teachers are ego-driven and which ones just plain love medicine and teaching it.
 
LetItSnow said:
It's always really interesting to see which teachers are ego-driven and which ones just plain love medicine and teaching it.
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It's also really interesting that the ego-driven teachers are the ones who usually have poor attendance and get all pissy. The ones that love medicine and teaching it have good attendance (I skip 90% of all lectures at least, and even I go to them).

Except of course the ego driven a**hole profs that love having this reputation for being the "hard" professor (when in reality it's just poor teaching), and has a weird cult following from the gunners in the class.
 
jmo1012 said:
today in vet school i learned that i am stupid.
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nyanko said:
This is my main take home message more or less every single day.
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👍

And the clinicians wonder why it is that students always end their sentences with question marks...

I also learned that as long as you're a bubbly student, the clients don't care how stupid you are. Also that as long as you have a good attitude and are attentive about getting all the paperwork and busywork done properly, clinicians don't care how stupid you are (to a degree).
 
LetItSnow said:
Right? We had a teacher once who was mad at the number of people that skipped, and somewhere toward the last 1/3rd of his lecture just kinda said "Oh well, since so many people are gone you all can just read the rest of these slides on your own."

Way to go, prof. You just punished all of us who DID show up by reinforcing that there was no point in coming, since you decided to blow off the lecture 2/3rds of the way through.

It's always really interesting to see which teachers are ego-driven and which ones just plain love medicine and teaching it.
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I had a professor like this in undergrad. The class included group presentations every week, and in order to prevent people from skipping on presentation days (since it was mostly review anyway) he announced that if there were any unexcused absences on presentation day he would dock points from the entire class on the next quiz. His theory was that the good students would pressure the slackers into attending. Problem was that if someone doesn't care enough about their own grade, they aren't going to give a damn about the rest of the class.

It was a relatively lower-level class so of course people still skipped. And I'm pretty sure the pre-vet gunners went to his office hours and freaked because they were being punished for not being able to control the slackers. He never actually enforced the rule, fortunately. 🙄
 
I was halfway paying attention to anaesthesia lectures today and saw this on a slide:

rubber duckie.jpg

and the only wording on the slide was "the ideal anaesthetic".

So, apparently rubber ducky is the ideal anaesthetic... or at least that is how my tired brain computed it... 😳

ETA: I also then couldn't stop singing... "Rubber Duckie you're the one, you make bathtime lots of fun!!"
 
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DVMDream said:
I was halfway paying attention to anaesthesia lectures today and saw this on a slide:

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and the only wording on the slide was "the ideal anaesthetic".

So, apparently rubber ducky is the ideal anaesthetic... or at least that is how my tired brain computed it... 😳

ETA: I also then couldn't stop singing... "Rubber Duckie you're the one, you make bathtime lots of fun!!"
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On anaesthesia rotation now....

Not understanding the connection.
 
shortnsweet said:
On anaesthesia rotation now....

Not understanding the connection.
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I don't think there was one.... think he was just discussing the importance of using the right anaesthetic for the patient. And he just happened to have a rubber duckie picture up there... :shrug:

I was starting to fall asleep.
 
DVMDream said:
I don't think there was one.... think he was just discussing the importance of using the right anaesthetic for the patient. And he just happened to have a rubber duckie picture up there... :shrug:

I was starting to fall asleep.
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Boooo...but I like anaesthesia!
 
shortnsweet said:
Boooo...but I like anaesthesia!
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This was very, very basic introduction lecture... what is anaesthesia? How can it be given? And then a lecture on anaesthetic machines.... again rather straightforward and basic. He also doesn't look at the class at all... he talks to the wall/computer and he talks fast, so it is hard to stay awake.
 
Today in vet school I learned that if you're really struggling during an exam, you can always fake a seizure. :meanie:
 
BlackDog17 said:
Today in vet school I learned that if you're really struggling during an exam, you can always fake a seizure. :meanie:
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Did you have a hat-wearing guest speaker in Intro to Vet Med? He is a funny guy.
 
ky261682 said:
Did you have a hat-wearing guest speaker in Intro to Vet Med? He is a funny guy.
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We did! He's an interesting lecturer, but I didn't appreciate having to give up my Wednesday morning sleep in for it. 🙄
 
Today I learned that professors don't always double-check their exams before administering them. Well, I've been learning that all along (through typos), but today was bad (they printed off the exam key instead of exam).
 
TwistedRose said:
Today I learned that professors don't always double-check their exams before administering them. Well, I've been learning that all along (through typos), but today was bad (they printed off the exam key instead of exam).
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100s for everyone!!!!
 
Today I learned that uncommon presentations of common diseases are more common than common presentations of uncommon diseases.
 
Today I learned that vets in the US can longer get Thiopental because it is the main ingredient in human euthanasia solution.
 
bbeventer said:
Today I learned that vets in the US can longer get Thiopental because it is the main ingredient in human euthanasia solution.
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Yeah... So we pray to the heavens that they never use pentobarbital for capital punishment. And we're worried propofol will become a controlled drug soon... That would be a sad sad day
 
Today I learned that I get to embalm a horse in December. So much to look forward to.
 
Today I learned that the overwhelming feeling of being behind may never go away......

"Embrace it!", they say.

I think I just need to add alcohol.
 
Today I learned that just because the professor is an insanely smart physics person who knows how different forms of radiography work, does not mean that he will know how to operate the microphone in the lecture theatre.
 
Today I learned that just because a professor is damn good at pathology does not mean they can identify the breed of dog on the table before them..... he said it was a large Samoyed... it was clearly an Alaskan Malmute....
 
DVMDream said:
Today I learned that just because the professor is an insanely smart physics person who knows how different forms of radiography work, does not mean that he will know how to operate the microphone in the lecture theatre.
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:laugh:
 
Minnerbelle said:
Yeah... So we pray to the heavens that they never use pentobarbital for capital punishment. And we're worried propofol will become a controlled drug soon... That would be a sad sad day
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that they did (only once or twice) use pentobarbital for capital punishment. I don't remember the specifics, but I read about it when researching for a paper on capital punishment.
 
bbeventer said:
Today I learned that vets in the US can longer get Thiopental because it is the main ingredient in human euthanasia solution.
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I don't understand. Why can't you get it? We still use it rarely in the OR (generally on the occasion propofol is back ordered).

Minnerbelle said:
Yeah... So we pray to the heavens that they never use pentobarbital for capital punishment.
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It already does get used in lethal injection.
 
DVMDream said:
Today I learned that just because the professor is an insanely smart physics person who knows how different forms of radiography work, does not mean that he will know how to operate the microphone in the lecture theatre.
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Hahahaha. So in our third-year classroom, we have some beams that run diagonally floor to ceiling (it's an old remodeled barn; it's pretty cool). Because of sight lines, they had to put all sorts of screens up for the presentation: there are two right above the speaker (side by side), and then another two large tv-screens on beams halfway back the room. There's one tv monitor on a beam that's *facing* the speaker so that they can see what's being displayed.

Our radiology guru spent half the last lecture using his laser pointer on the screen that's oriented facing him - the one screen in the entire room that nobody in the audience can actually see.

Cracked me up.
 
Dwindlin said:
I don't understand. Why can't you get it? We still use it rarely in the OR (generally on the occasion propofol is back ordered).
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Really? Back in 2011 Hospira said they were exiting the market because of the use of Pentothal for capital punishment.

Maybe you're just using old stock that's still trickling around the market? Or has it come back on the market in the last 2 years? (I really don't know anything about it other than what was covered in our anesthesia class. I've never used it.) Or are there other manufacturers than Abbott/Hospira? Or do you get it through some sort of nefarious black-market sleazy sketchy overseas pipeline? 😉
 
Dwindlin said:
I don't understand. Why can't you get it? We still use it rarely in the OR (generally on the occasion propofol is back ordered).
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We were told it was because the 1 and only US manufacturer of thiopental stopped producing it in 2011(?) due to the whole capital punishment thing. Not sure how human hospitals get them, but thiopental doesn't really exist anymore in the vet world. It makes our anesthesiologist a very sad, and they get nostalgic every time they bring it up. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/23/lethal-injection-sodium-thiopental-hospira


Dwindlin said:
It already does get used in lethal injection.
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Oh shizzles, you're right! I hadn't personally followed the story in a long time so didn't realize but it apparently was used for the first time in dec 2010 in a combo protocol where I believe KCl is still the main agent. It was more recently used once as the sole agent in Ohio. As far as early this spring I kept hearing vets at school fearing that it will get use one day to the detriment of veterinary patients... so I figured it never happened. The new AVMA guidelines for euthanasia that recently came out i was also told specifically has a blurb saying none of the info on there should be extrapolated to humans. I was told that was at least partly due to people for/against capital punishment were citing the old handbook to help make their cases.

Hopefully euthanasia solutions only being FDA approved for veterinary use will prevent lack of supply on our part.
 
LetItSnow said:
Hahahaha. So in our third-year classroom, we have some beams that run diagonally floor to ceiling (it's an old remodeled barn; it's pretty cool). Because of sight lines, they had to put all sorts of screens up for the presentation: there are two right above the speaker (side by side), and then another two large tv-screens on beams halfway back the room. There's one tv monitor on a beam that's *facing* the speaker so that they can see what's being displayed.

Our radiology guru spent half the last lecture using his laser pointer on the screen that's oriented facing him - the one screen in the entire room that nobody in the audience can actually see.

Cracked me up.
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:laugh:

What is it with the radiologists?
 
I learned this week that cliques weren't just for high school :uhno: :barf:


On a brighter note, I got to learn some cool hand-ties as part of surgery club! Won't need them for a veryyyy long time, but it was nice to have my brain learn something that involved my hands and not memorizing off of power points!
 
cs5910 said:
I learned this week that cliques weren't just for high school :uhno: :barf:


On a brighter note, I got to learn some cool hand-ties as part of surgery club! Won't need them for a veryyyy long time, but it was nice to have my brain learn something that involved my hands and not memorizing off of power points!
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I don't think upcoming elections are helping this clique thing either...I just want to be friends with a lot of people but I feel like everyone has paired off into couples of best friends and I always feel like a third wheel when I try to get to know people.

I also enjoyed the hand ties! I want to make the shoebox thing to practice them on.

I feel like this week in vet school I learned that the answer to every question is "it depends..."
 
Today I learned that potty training my puppy makes for excellent study breaks 😉 Definitely wasn't planning on getting a puppy until after midterms but the perfect situation (except for the vet school part) fell into my lap.
 
Today (ok, ok, it was yesterday) I learned that generalized tetanus really does like a pretty damn unpleasant thing for a dog to go through.
 
Today I learned that immunoglobulin is an awfully long word to be typed (mostly) with only one hand.
 
Today I learned that I really, really, really loathe the kidneys. Why does urine need to be so darn complicated?
 
Today I learned that the professors really have no idea what you have or have not been taught previously.... example: professor says, "I am not going over the clotting cascade you can review that as you already learned it last year." Umm, no we didn't.. :bang:

(Ok, I actually figured this out about professors last year, but it was just made apparent again today).
 
Ok, this was a few days ago, but a lovely definition of what anaesthesia is by our anaesthesia professor:

"The half-asleep watching the half-awake being half-murdered by the half-witted."
 
Don't give telazol to a tiger (which may or may not be urban legend...)
 
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