Today in vet school I learned...

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I learned that vets can make a lot of money by recommending therapeutic diets/recommending treatments more often rather than assuming the client won't pay for it.
 
DVMDream said:
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Most of the small "exotics" do that as well. I haven't learned about rabbits and anaesthesia yet, but overall rabbits in just about any situation kind of suck.... don't hold them appropriately = broken back= death, too much stress = death.
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Awww, I don't think they are too bad....just a new learning curve. (I work with an exotics vet so that's why I commented)

You guys are posting some fascinating things...thanks!!
 
that redhead said:
We just finished talking about anesthetizing rabbits (and I'm procrastinating studying for our rabbit quiz tomorrow...oops) Biggest issue is you can't mask them down as they will hold their breath (AND DIE!!!, as the slides so kindly point out 😉) But don't try to sedate them with detomidine as they are highly resistant...Plus the whole GI stasis thing with any amount of stress. Fun fun 😀
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Actually you can mask them down. You have to start with oxygen and keep a hand on their chest. You slowly increase the gas until they are asleep. If you see the nose stop moving or feel a decrease in the heart rate then you move the mask away for a minute.

If they scream, it means they are trying to die. 🙁

We use ket/val (or midaz) to sedate all the time for actual surgeries but mask for short procedures.

GI stasis can be a whole separate thing to deal with....but not always bad.
 
Hotfillyky said:
Awww, I don't think they are too bad....just a new learning curve. (I work with an exotics vet so that's why I commented)

You guys are posting some fascinating things...thanks!!
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Yes, I worked at a clinic that saw pet exotics at times. They aren't necessarily "bad", I mean nothing is really "bad" once you get used to dealing with it, but compared to say a dog... they have many more issues that you have to be concerned with just from them being brought into the clinic.
 
DVMDream said:
Yes, I worked at a clinic that saw pet exotics at times. They aren't necessarily "bad", I mean nothing is really "bad" once you get used to dealing with it, but compared to say a dog... they have many more issues that you have to be concerned with just from them being brought into the clinic.
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True
 
Today I learned that there are 4 responses created by the sympathetic nervous system...Fear, Flight, Fight and F*$%ing. Thank you vet school
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Today I learned that you shouldn't let your 14 year old volunteer move the farm truck, especially if its a stick shift, when the truck is parked on a hill. It will roll downhill towards you and the down cow, and while narrowly missing you, it will run over the prolapsed uterus you've been trying to shove back in, and you'll have to tell the farmer the cow didn't pass the "Firestone squeeze" test and then you'll have to put her down.
 
Today I learned that a UK billion is a million million.....😕 This I did not know.....

I very rarely side with the Americans when it comes to measurement.....but continuing to increase by a factor of 1000 makes more sense to me. :laugh: At least when referring to PCR, the whole point is that there's simply a **** ton of DNA strands in 30 cycles and we're less worried about the exact number.
 
Jamr0ckin said:
Today I learned that you shouldn't let your 14 year old volunteer move the farm truck, especially if its a stick shift, when the truck is parked on a hill. It will roll downhill towards you and the down cow, and while narrowly missing you, it will run over the prolapsed uterus you've been trying to shove back in, and you'll have to tell the farmer the cow didn't pass the "Firestone squeeze" test and then you'll have to put her down.
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😱 did this happen to you?!
 
Today I learned that the AVMA is every bit as fumbling, rose-colored glasses, head in the sand ridiculous as they seem. 🙄
 
Hotfillyky said:
Actually you can mask them down. You have to start with oxygen and keep a hand on their chest. You slowly increase the gas until they are asleep. If you see the nose stop moving or feel a decrease in the heart rate then you move the mask away for a minute.
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Should have clarified - you shouldn't mask them down without prior sedatives. (We masked them down without prior sedatives at the clinic I was at frequently...oh well.)

BlackDog17 said:
Today I learned that the AVMA is every bit as fumbling, rose-colored glasses, head in the sand ridiculous as they seem. 🙄
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Funny, I learned that today too...ugh.

I actually came here to say that I learned NOTHING in my integrative medicine class. He's talked about acupuncture and today did a demo (worst class ever...he was mumbling and blabbering and I tuned out about 10mins in) and he still hasn't actually taught us what acupuncture is and how it's supposed to work 😕
 
ZooVet731 said:
Today I learned that there are 4 responses created by the sympathetic nervous system...Fear, Flight, Fight and F*$%ing. Thank you vet school
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They taught us parasympathetic points, sympathetic shoots... :naughty:

(and that the sympathetic responses are fight, flight, freeze, and fidget)
 
I learned what pizzle rot is. I would encourage you all to google that in as public a place as possible. :meanie:
 
pooter said:
I learned what pizzle rot is. I would encourage you all to google that in as public a place as possible. :meanie:
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Ha! I would have a "serious" conversation about a pizzle rot case around some keener freshmen/sophmores as a senior. Without going into detail as to what it really was....and then watch them google it on their phones....good times. 😀
 
orca2011 said:
I still giggle at that one. Although, I recall someone mentioning the 4 "f"s as well.
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The dirtiest ones are the best ways to remember things! Like, the muscles of the antebrachium in a cat are "Because Erin Can't Love U Forever Stupid F***" and the muscles of the crus are "Can Lazy Prostitutes Suck D*** Good."
 
Rwwilliams said:
The dirtiest ones are the best ways to remember things! Like, the muscles of the antebrachium in a cat are "Because Erin Can't Love U Forever Stupid F***" and the muscles of the crus are "Can Lazy Prostitutes Suck D*** Good."
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Maybe if I had those mnemonics I would have done better in anatomy...
 
I made my own mnemonics for muscle groups and then drew silly pictures to go with them. Usually not anything crude, but one involved a well-hung donkey and a mexican... don't even ask me to actually remember it.
 
Dinosaurs suffered from cancer, osteosarcoma.
 
adrenal glands- salt, sugar, sex.
 
So, our anaesthesia professor is really into history so some things I have learned:

Local anaesthetics are derived from Coca leaves, the first of which was cocaine back in 1884 and it was used to provide corneal anaesthesia.

Procaine was synthesized in 1905 and it is still used today in large animals.

Opioids are derived from opium which was cultivated in 3400 B.C.

The first opioid identified was morphine in 1803.

In 1874, Heroin was synthesized and was supposed to be the "wonder drug" of pain killers.

Opioids were bottled by Perry Davis in the 1840's and labelled as "Vegetable Pain Killer" which was intended to be good to use as a pain relief for teething infants. The opioids in this bottle were mixed with ethyl alcohol and could be rubbed onto the baby's gums.

*I think there were a lot of really relaxed and quiet babies in the mid-1800's* :laugh:
 
I am going to change the tune here a bit for this post, but what NOT to do in vet school:

Do NOT ask the professor if specific lectures are examinable, because you will get this response, "I don't think we have had questions on those lectures before, but now that you mention it, I will have to go look and see what we can do. And yes, everything is examinable." Yes, stupid person, this is now your third year here, the professors have said this all along, EVERYTHING is examinable, always has been, always will be. Besides, as the professor pointed out, while it seems like you are here to gather information and spit it back out onto the exam; that isn't the purpose, you are to be learning information so that you can use that knowledge to be a veterinarian, not just pass an exam. This is the same person who has to be right about everything and thinks she knows all the answers... 🙄

She is on my ****e list for people that I will not be able to work with in final year. I have noticed lately that this list is growing quite a bit.
 
DVMDream said:
She is on my ****e list for people that I will not be able to work with in final year. I have noticed lately that this list is growing quite a bit.
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Everything changes in final year....

You learn to deal with people you thought you couldn't and can't deal with ones you thought you could....It's quite perplexing really.
 
shortnsweet said:
Everything changes in final year....

You learn to deal with people you thought you couldn't and can't deal with ones you thought you could....It's quite perplexing really.
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Interesting. How are the gunners/"I know everything people" from previous years in your class, in final year? Do they still have that same attitude? Those are the ones on my ****e list. Plus this one person who is just downright mean, she is very, very close to getting herself kicked out.
 
DVMDream said:
Interesting. How are the gunners/"I know everything people" from previous years in your class, in final year? Do they still have that same attitude? Those are the ones on my ****e list. Plus this one person who is just downright mean, she is very, very close to getting herself kicked out.
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The gunners have been taken down a few notches thanks to the clinicians and the more level playing field now that it is all about practical skills and clinical knowledge as opposed to the taking exams.

The mean people are still mean...but again, clinicians notice these things.
 
shortnsweet said:
The gunners have been taken down a few notches thanks to the clinicians and the more level playing field now that it is all about practical skills and clinical knowledge as opposed to the taking exams.

The mean people are still mean...but again, clinicians notice these things.
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👍 Good to know the gunners have taken it down some. I just can tell already by how some people act in practicals that they would gladly shove you out of the way to do something. Those are the people I would like to avoid.

Also, the one girl who is just mean, has already been in trouble numerous times. It would not surprise me if they do kick her out at some point, considering that she has become belligerent with staff before. One can only hope that they actually do kick her out, don't really need someone like that in the profession.
 
Today I learned that tobacco was previously used as an antihelmitic in people and animals. That's why most of our antiparasitic agents target the nicotinic receptors!
 
shortnsweet said:
Everything changes in final year....

You learn to deal with people you thought you couldn't and can't deal with ones you thought you could....It's quite perplexing really.
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Before I deferred the remainder of this year, I discovered this too. i had no idea who the biggest b!tch in my class was until I ended up in a rotation group with her - previously I thought she was fine! So while I totally get the list thing, at the same time you never know who you're going to hate working with.
 
Another what not to do in vet school...

Do NOT sit behind someone and repeatedly kick the back of their chair during lecture. Also, it is not polite to place your feet on the back of someone's chair as if it is your own personal foot rest. I will lean back and crush your feet. If you need to move your feet/stretch your legs that much then get to class early and sit in the front row. There were plenty of open seats in the front row and considering that you were sitting in the second row, there is no excuse of not liking to sit in the front. So quit kicking my chair and using it as a foot rest, sit in the front row, Ms. Fidgety... 😡
 
Yesterday in surgery lecture I learned that the scrotum is sneaky and tries to get in your surgical field. The surgeon kept calling it a sneaky scrotum and even had it labeled like that on multiple slides.
 
Studies done with bovine papilloma virus and consumption of brackenfern causing cancer, helped to create the link between HPV and cervical cancer in women. This allowed for the development of cervical cancer vaccines (vaccines for HPV).
 
We don't want cheetahs to go extinct because, then, the fastest land animal would be the pronghorn sheep. And that doesn't sound nearly as cool.
 
DVMDream said:
Studies done with bovine papilloma virus and consumption of brackenfern causing cancer, helped to create the link between HPV and cervical cancer in women. This allowed for the development of cervical cancer vaccines (vaccines for HPV).
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I'm getting my first shot for HPV tomorrow. I'm just gonna blurt this out to my doctor.. oh quiz him 😀
 
DVMDream said:
Studies done with bovine papilloma virus and consumption of brackenfern causing cancer, helped to create the link between HPV and cervical cancer in women. This allowed for the development of cervical cancer vaccines (vaccines for HPV).
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We just learned this, too! We actually have an exam on neoplasia tomorrow in gen path, aka name that neoplasm!
 
yesterday i learned that the thing we call a "refrigerator" is actually generically called an ice box. the term refrigerator became the popular and common name based on the popularity of a company called mccray refrigerators. this is like the emasculatome. commonly called a burdizzio because of the brand popularity but the generic name is emasculatome. :shrug: thats what i learned in large animal surgery
 
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