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all the state schools have an MD and DO, right?
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all the state schools have an MD and DO, right?
If you mean that they offer both programs through the same institution, then no. For example, OUCOM is a state school, and they are DO only. MSU has both programs, and I think at least another school does too.
Would you consider UMDNJ as having both? or fo you count UMDNJCOM UMDNJRWJ and UMDNJNJM as 3 schools? And what about OSU?
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Thanks! I haven't heard that many great things about their MD program, but who knows?? Plus a January trip to East Lansing is not exactly the well earned vacation I had in mind at this point in the process.... LOL!!
Yeah, UMDNJ was another one! OSU is Ohio State University, and is MD in Columbus. OUCOM is Ohio University, and is DO in Athens. They are separate nonaffiliated colleges.
Wait what happened to Oklahoma?
I am sorry to break it to you Ortho, but Oklahoma was abducted by aliens.
I was ALMOST at a loss for words....!But does that mean my collection of quarters from all 50 states goes UP in value, or DOWN??
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I was referring to OklahomaSU. I think they have both a DO and MD program. West Virginia anyone? Im not sure about that one.
thanks!
WVCOM is not associated with WVU in any way. WVCOM is private.
State schools only are those listed previously ... MSU, TCOM, OSU, UMDNJ, all have programs that are MD and DO ... but hardly any are so affliated. The only ones that have mixed facilities are MSU but that is changing so I hear. UMDNJ-COM has no formal affliation with NJMS or RWJ and usually can't rotate at the main site that RWJ occupies in south jersey (which is a bunch of crap but whatever because its a level 1 trauma center in which RWJ students do their 3rd and 4th years there - political red tape blows).
Same thing for OSU-COM and OU, no affliated what-so-ever. OU has their own turfed "hospital" in Tulsa (even though OU is in OKC they have a Tulsa campus for 3rd and 4th years) which OSU students are rarely "allowed" to rotate.
I believe TCOM is the same as other state schools as well which no major ties to any of the MD schools. But I don't know as much about them ...
So its looks like MSU is the only one ...
thanks! but I think WVSOM is state-owned or controlled..
From their website:
The Greenbrier College of Osteopathic Medicine accepted its charter class of 36 osteopathic medical students in 1974. The move from a private to a public institution came in January 1976 when the college was brought into the state system of higher education and renamed the West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine. The first class of 33 physicians was awarded their Doctor of Osteopathy degrees in June, 1978.
The Greenbrier College of Osteopathic Medicine accepted its charter class of 36 osteopathic medical students in 1974. The move from a private to a public institution came in January 1976 when the college was brought into the state system of higher education and renamed the West Virginia School of Osteopathic Medicine. The first class of 33 physicians was awarded their Doctor of Osteopathy degrees in June, 1978.
That's right ... I think its the high OOS tuition that gets me thinking its private. You are right though, but the same thing goes with the rest of schools. Separate clinicals. Thanks for the reminder of reality. I was wondering why i was contemplating moving to WV, now I remember!
That's right ... I think its the high OOS tuition that gets me thinking its private. You are right though, but the same thing goes with the rest of schools. Separate clinicals. Thanks for the reminder of reality. I was wondering why i was contemplating moving to WV, now I remember!
Shouldn't it be the oppositte? Most typically private schools do not have different tuitions for in state/ out of state. This feature is generally reserved for state or state supported schools.
yea, but some schools, like NSU, for instance receive some state money. So they have an IS and OOS tuition.
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I know, thats why i said "typically" and made the exception for state-supported schools (meaning schools that receive some portion of their budget from the government)
I meant that as an out of stater you only hear of the high tuition so I forgot about the whole in-state tuition thing. 😳
And whomever was chatting about UMDNJ and how close it is to camden ... 🙄
BOO!!! hahaha
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WALKE219
Just for the record, MSU is the only university that carries undergraduates as well with both Osteopathic and Allopathic colleges... but it is also the largest university in the country too, so that might have something to do with it. I guess UMDNJ might be considered to have both too, but I believe it is just a graduate university
Like someone said, nothing is ever really said all that great about its allopathic school...
Michigan has 4 medical schools (human) :
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor (MD)
Wayne State University - Detroit (MD)
Michigan State University - East Lansing (MD, DO) *both on same campus
Like someone said, nothing is ever really said all that great about its allopathic school...
Michigan has 4 medical schools (human) :
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor (MD)
Wayne State University - Detroit (MD)
Michigan State University - East Lansing (MD, DO) *both on same campus
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WALKE219
And I think the norm is that public schools tend to have the higher OOS tuition because there is so much state funding associated with it. If you look in the allopathic world, many schools ONLY accept in state students too. I know MSUCOM out of state is something crazy too - $51846 as of last year.. Quite a bite out of the pocket book. However, if you look at the undergraduate out of state $28,181.50 vs $15,536.50 for in state.. So they are not just picking on the grads!!
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DPS319
UT Austin and OSU are larger.
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WALKE219
I was referring to campus landmass size.. not enrollment sorry I should have clarified you are right for enrollment. I just meant to facilitate the size of the schools and buildings
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DPS319
Ive been told the DO and MD students at MSU take a lot of the same classes together. How do they perform on USMLE? Does the CHM have a similar funnel into primary care as the COM does?
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WALKE219
quite a few of the first two years worth of courses are taken together, minus the OMT, anatomy and a couple other differences... However, after that the similarities end... Im not sure of the primary care for the MD, however, I do know that the clinical affiliation for the MD program is something like 7 hospitals state wide, and for the DO program it is 28 and growing... So thats why the DO program is a lot better 😉
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That won't be the case when MSU-CHM moves though ...
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WALKE219
MSU CHM isnt moving, it is expanding to Grand Rapids... There will still be the existing campus in East Lansing.
