Touro-NY vs NYCOM

[Odwizardo]

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Hey guys, I was pretty much set on Tourocom in NY until my waitlist for NYCOM just came in last night and well ... I got in...
Both schools seem like excellent options although,
NYCOM has the prestige, history and I speculate higher level student body(academically from statistics of those accepted)
On the otherhand Touro is in the city, about 20-25grand cheaper per year for me. With the risk of it being a first year school, it seems like I might have the upper hand in making friends with faculty? I'm still shakey on how I may be percieved coming from a first year school focused on primary care(not my focus at all)
I have a few friends going to nycom, none to touro, although I'm not sure if this should affect my decision.

What do you guys think?

 

[neu yorker]

I had this issue in March - and i chose NYCOM. end of the day, you want to put yourself in the best position for what happens after medical school - residency. NYCOM has been around alot longer and has much better connections throughout the city and long island - something that TOUROCOM might have, the emphasis on might. Right now, Touro is telling you that they have a bunch of hospitals lined up already and that they are working on others. but take a look at NYCOMs match list from the past few years (they are available online - i think they might be posted somewhere on sdn also) and look at the hospitals and the specialties that NYCOM got there students into - i dont know about you, but it impressed me and played a major role in my decision.

 

[Taty]

If I was in your position, I would chose NYCOM because it is and older school, has more connections and etc...but on the other side go in place that u think u fit the most. Assuming that u were in both places which place did u like the most?Go in the school that makes u happy.

 

[MCATTT]

Tuition is at most 10k difference, isn't it?
It is 31k Touro vs. 38k NYCOM assuming you have medical insurance from your parents or medicaid.
Personally, I would choose NYCOM for its proven history and great matchlist every year.

 

[Kappy1]

I choose NYCOM because it has a longer history and they are known and respected in area hospitals. Touro-NY will have a great progrom if it follows in Touro-MI and Touro-NV footsteps. However, if you go to Touro NY you will be guinea pig. It takes schools a few years until all the kinks are worked out.

 

[MossPoh]

I choose NYCOM because it has a longer history and they are known and respected in area hospitals. Touro-NY will have a great progrom if it follows in Touro-MI and Touro-NV footsteps. However, if you go to Touro NY you will be guinea pig. It takes schools a few years until all the kinks are worked out.

Everyone keeps on citing this guinea pig thing for the new schools. I am yet to see evidence that proves this. If you look at VCOM's matchlist, they seemed to turnout ok for being the guinea pigs. (As did FSU's first class) In fact, they are loaded with competitive specialities. While NYCOM is more established, it is a matter of where you like more.

 

[Hexanol]

Everyone keeps on citing this guinea pig thing for the new schools. I am yet to see evidence that proves this. If you look at VCOM's matchlist, they seemed to turnout ok for being the guinea pigs. (As did FSU's first class) In fact, they are loaded with competitive specialities. While NYCOM is more established, it is a matter of where you like more.

haha yeah truthfully, i don't understand this guinea pig theory that every seems to have. The quote unquote "new schools" have provided good matchlists for their first classes and I'm not really sure why you guys are referring to them as guinea pigs.

Personally, I don't think the educational/academic level will suffer just because it's a "new school". Being the first class, I think the only place where you might be a "guinea pig" is the admission and the administrative stuff that goes on through the year.

 

[Kappy1]

haha yeah truthfully, i don't understand this guinea pig theory that every seems to have. The quote unquote "new schools" have provided good matchlists for their first classes and I'm not really sure why you guys are referring to them as guinea pigs.

Personally, I don't think the educational/academic level will suffer just because it's a "new school". Being the first class, I think the only place where you might be a "guinea pig" is the admission and the administrative stuff that goes on through the year.

I think studets in a new school will be getting a fine education and will be on the level of any student coming from any other school in the country. The "guinea pig" theory has to do with schools administration and residency programs. The school will change things based on what they see worked or didn't work for the first class. In some schools those students are worked harder to make sure they will get into good residency programs. Residency programs will be taking a risk on these students. Granted students who came from the new schools had competetive residencies. The first class will also determine whether future students will be accepted into these programs again. If they perform well future students will be accepted, but if they don't they will be more reluctant to take students from their. With an established school residency programs know what they are getting.

 

[Hexanol]

I think studets in a new school will be getting a fine education and will be on the level of any student coming from any other school in the country. The "guinea pig" theory has to do with schools administration and residency programs. The school will change things based on what they see worked or didn't work for the first class. In some schools those students are worked harder to make sure they will get into good residency programs. Residency programs will be taking a risk on these students. Granted students who came from the new schools had competetive residencies. The first class will also determine whether future students will be accepted into these programs. If they perform well future students will be accepted, but if they don't they will be more reluctant to take students from their. With an established school residency programs know what they are getting.

hm, that's what i was trying to say with my last sentence. haha but you def. did it more eloquently. 😀

 

[MossPoh]

So bottom line is be the first class, then worry if you are the second and third. 😉 The education is pretty easy to present. There are only so many ways one can present information. Since most residencies tend to look at your step 1, the other stuff seems kind of moot till the residency. Your clinical years are obviously important, but they also seem highly variable based on what kind of experience you get. Schools might not change, but people come and go from hospitals, so while a great teacher may be there one year, there is nothing to say they won't be there the next. Obviously a school or clinicals wont' completely collapse in a one year span, but once there is any sort of establishment I have a hard time believing there is a HUGE degree of variablility between the majority of these places. There are always exceptions to the rule, but in the situation like Touro-NY....they have pretty good access to a lot of hospitals. As much as we'd like to believe it, there really isn't quite the name sexiness game with osteopathic schools. I don't think "wow, he got into _______. That is unbelivable". I feel that most osteopathic schools are on the same page and it is a matter of personal preference.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Does anyone know (while the subject is being discussed) if NYCOM has an instate preference??

 

[MCATTT]

Does anyone know (while the subject is being discussed) if NYCOM has an instate preference??

Yes. They do.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Yes. They do.

Is it strong? I tried to find an old thread about all the school's OOS students and in state preferences, but I couldn't find it.

 

[MCATTT]

Is it strong? I tried to find an old thread about all the school's OOS students and in state preferences, but I couldn't find it.

I saw the number ratio of in state vs. OSS on SDN a couple of time.
NYCOM is easier to get in if you are a resident of NY (i.e, you can have lower stats compared to OSS students.)

 

[JaggerPlate]

I saw the number ratio of in state vs. OSS on SDN a couple of time.
NYCOM is easier to get in if you are a resident of NY (i.e, you can have lower stats compared to OSS students.)

Yeah, I went to the AACOM website last night and looked at that big pdf file that has all the information in it (don't remember what it's called) and found the break down by each school. NYCOM is about 65% instate, 35% out. Not the worst by far, but a fairly decent bias.

 

[rwlevin]

I chose TouroCom. It is cheaper and a lot easier for me to get to-I own a place in Manhattan so moving really isn't feasible and I'd choose a 30 minute commute to an hour and a half long commute any day-which would cost more money also since the LIRR is mad expensive and the train doesn't run that often. Plus, since Touro is a new school, all of its facilities are state of the art. And the cafeteria won't smell like the cadaver lab.

 

[Odwizardo]

will clinicals be a pain in the ass to travel to with NYCOM? From what I gather all of the rotations touro offers are an easy train ride away.

I pretty much need to make my decision by tonight...this is tough, particularly that I have free housing in brooklyn 1hour train ride from touro...so i will be paying about 20k more for NYCOM per year, but it will be a 15minute drive for the first 2 years. so is $80k in debt worth picking Touro over NYCOM...etc.

Anyone have experience going through first year schools? will clinical rotations make up for being an unknown school? Touro appears to have a good hospital rotation list.