TPR Diagnostic Tests

[Amit1]

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What is everybody scoring? I am curious to see if my trend is common.

Here are my scores:

4911: 4, 4, 5

4921: 5, 6, 7

4931: 9, 8, 9


I found each test to get easier which I am sure is a marketing ploy for TPR to say that "Look! You improved 13 points!". I don't know how 4931 stacks up to the real deal. I am looking forward to the next two tests which will be AAMC 5 and 6.

 

[LoneCoyote]

Here's mine:

4901 11, 7, 6 K

4921 8, 9, 5 O

4931 11, 7, 7, Q

To the OP, I did feel like 4931 was significantly easier than the other two, though I was sick and just could not focus. Everyone seemed to think that the second test was the hardest, especially the verbal. I think it is funny how much my writing has "improved" when I had been doing essentially the same thing on all of them. I did, however, use their "synthesis" paragraph on the last one and I am sure that is what got me to a Q Are these last 2 tests really going to be the real MCATs? I will be happy to have a better representation of where I am really scoring.

 

[latinfridley]

4911 B8 , P5, V6
4921 B9 , P6, V8
4931 B10, P8, V9

I think the AAMC tests will be better indicators of our test performance.
yall look like ur doin well. some folk arent doin so hot on the tpr diags in my class.

 

[Flack Pinku]

Test 1 - Test 3:

P - V - B

5 - 3 - 7
8 - 4 - 6
9 - 8 - 8

What about the Verbal workbook exams (1-4)?

I've taken 3 so far:
6, 8, 11.

The PR Verbal tests all seem to me to be of the same relative hardness. None of them was easier or harder than the others. All of them, the diags and the verbal workbook exams are of the same hardness I think.

However, the EK VR 101 book's passages varies in difficulty from test to test... I think.

 

[LoneCoyote]

Have I totally missed something? How do you score the TPR verbal workbook exams? I don't see a coring key in the book anywhere.

I have found the Examkrackers 101 verbal exams to be pretty consistent, though the one I took yesterday, #4, seemed a tad easier than the first three.

 

[Dr Tricks]

My scores

P - V - B

4911: 5 - 6 - 5
4921: 6 - 4 - 8
4931: 9 - 7 - 8

Good luck with everyone's studying.

 

[chapinsita]

P-V-B
5-8-8
5-11-10
5-11-9

Damn physics 🙁

Good luck everyone! 🙂

 

[efex101]

Exam Physics Verbal Biology

4911 6 6 9
4931 7 8 11

 

[DoctorWannaBe]

Has anyone taken test 4902 who can comment on how it compares to real MCATs? I am not in the TPR course but paid $15 to take the test today, and am wondering if I can rely on my score.

 

[LoneCoyote]

Originally posted by DoctorWannaBe
Has anyone taken test 4902 who can comment on how it compares to real MCATs? I am not in the TPR course but paid $15 to take the test today, and am wondering if I can rely on my score.

If it is anything like 4901, which was the diag they offered at U of A a couple of months ago, it will be harder than the real thing according to one of our instructors. But if it is significantly different who knows... I dunno what to think about TPR practice tests anymore...

 

[efex101]

I hear you, it makes me wonder. The tests are so freakig calculation heavy on the physics compared to the aamc exams that if I see lots of calculations I skip the question. Usually (aamc I-III) mcat exams do not have maybe more than two tops calculations for very few of the problems. Whereas with tpr there was some serious stuff going on, IMHO. I am taking the exams with a grain of salt but will only truly believe my scores on the aamc ones which are higher by the way. Guys, if you have not done any aamc practice tests I highly encourage you to do so, our tpr gives aamc VI the freaking week before the MCAT! that is is. So I plan on taking aamc IV and V on my own before I take VI. I hope all this cash was worth it for tpr, we will see....

 

[Amit1]

We all seem to be around the same area score wise. This will be interesting to see how we all do on AAMC V next week and how we all do on the real mcat.

Will we be stuck in mediocrity with 20 somethings and struggle to get into med school or are we gonna ball it up in the thirties? I hear the TPR tests are more difficult than the real thing so our scores have nowhere to go but up from here (I hope).

On another note I have 10 lessons left which i hope to finish two weeks before the real deal so i have time to cover everything with the full knowledge base. (However I never did any of their verbal material as it is junk, save yourselves the time and throw their three verbal/writing books in the trash).

Some of the workbook passages are tough and can get you down - but you gotta keep on keepin on.

 

[Amit1]

Time for AAMC 5 updates. Post em' up!

Here are my scores:

4911: 4, 4, 5

4921: 5, 6, 7

4931: 9, 8, 9

AAMC 5r: 9, 11, 10

I am very happy to say the least. Basically I scored a 30 and I havent even started to study yet. In the next three weeks I will put in more study time than I have in the past and I hope to at least maintain this 30 and maybe even improve on it a bit. But tonight I DRINK😀

 

[nbharara]

What did you think about AAMC 5R test? I think I will be taking it on Tuesday. Also, I am thinking about taking AAMC VI soon. I heard these reflect your real score very well.

Isn't there a test that is available from AAMC that is like the new MCAT? If so, where do you get that? Has anybody taken it? What did they think?

 

[latinfridley]

here is my AAMC V score:
P - 9 or 10 (depending on what i circled for a passage I guessed on)
V - 9
B - 10 - 11
what the hell does 10-11 mean anyway?
So i either got a 28, 29, or 30, depending on outcome of P, and on what 10-11 means.
laterz

 

[LoneCoyote]

So we didn't do AAMC 5 because they couldn't get the test in time. We did TPR test 4941. Has anyone taken it who has any opinion on how it compared to the real thing? I really ate it on Physical Science with a 7, as usual, but I got an 11V, 10B. So I'm pretty happy because I think I can get the Physical score up now that I am starting my last 3 weeks of cramming. I am definitely a procrastinator... well, off to study 🙂

 

[efex101]

Hey, we did not get aamc v either, we also got the 4th tpr but I cannot get my scores online? just took it today so we will see, I thought it was tough.

 

[chapinsita]

Past TPR tests:
5-8-8
5-11-10
5-11-9

AAMC V
8-10-10

YEAY!!!! my physics went up! Over spring break, I studied physics and g-chem for 6hrs/day for 3 days instead of going to Mexico like everyone else. 3 points, it def paid off. Now I really gotta give it my all. We can do it everybody!!!

 

[maoeris]

Good job on the physical chapinsita!!!

Here are mine...
Test # P V B
4911 4 6 6
4921 4 6 8
4931 4 7 8
4941 4 9 5 (did on own while getting over flu)
AAMC5R 8 9 9

I just need about 2 points more score improvement!! I can't wait. I've been studying everyday for hours (5-8) and will do so until probably the 24th. Good luck to everyone!

 

[LoneCoyote]

efex, we did the 4941 last Saturday and they just got us our scores back yesterday. as far as i know it is not on the internet. If you need the answers pm me and i can try to send it to you. I thought the verbal and the physical were tough and that the bio was okay. I found the writing sample topics even less inspiring then usual 🙁

maoeris and chapinista, did you find the physical sciences on AAMC 5 to be easier than the TPR's, especially 4941? I also studied a bunch of physics over spring break and it didn't help much. But I know I need to just kick it in now. I am hoping the real thing will be a bit easier though.

 

[maoeris]

I thought the physical sciences were easier, but it may also be the fact that that was my weakest area and I spent the most time studying it. The AAMC overall was a much easier test. I hope AAMC 6 treats me well.

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by nbharara
What did you think about AAMC 5R test? I think I will be taking it on Tuesday. Also, I am thinking about taking AAMC VI soon. I heard these reflect your real score very well.

Isn't there a test that is available from AAMC that is like the new MCAT? If so, where do you get that? Has anybody taken it? What did they think?

Any AAMC rest with the letter R after it means its "revised" for the new format. That includes AAMC 3r, 4r, 5r and 6r.

AAMC 5R and 6R are supposed to be very close to the real deal.T

To Latin Friendly and others: Those scores in the back of the book are not accurate. The scale that TPR will grade with will be the real scale as AAMC graded students with. The scale that you are using in the back of the book is just a vague ballpark scale that doesn't even include scores 13-15.

To everyone else that seems to have trouble with physics: I know everybody and their dog has advice when it comes to the MCAT, but what I am telling you is from genuine experience and not to sway you in anyway.

Studying for hours on end for physics isn't the right way to go about it. You need to understand the underlying principles in an intuitive way, thats what the MCAT tests. I have not memorized a single equation (okay, so I know F=ma, v=ir, and w=fd, but thats about all i remember). Most of the information necessary can be derived from the passage or the question itself. I haven't had time to memorize the equations yet, but if I can score an 11 without them - surely they are not the main focus of the physics section.


Lastly, most of our scores seem to be looking very good. I haven't even plataued yet and neither have many of you. If you guys are anything like me, I put off the hardcore study until about 3 weeks before the test. We should all keep on it extra hard these last three weeks and I think everybody in this thread can score double digits.

Also I think it would be cool if we all posted our target scores too - three weeks from now we can compare and see how we did:

My goal when I started studying: 9

My goal right now: 10

If I get over a 10 I will go crazy, I will drink 1 beer for every point I get up to ten and then 5 beers for each point over 10.

 

[latinfridley]

im shootin for a min of 30 total on my my final diag.
everyone looks really good on their scores.
i need to start studying more, but classes are killin me right now.

 

[efex101]

I am just shooting to get a 10 on each section so that I do know that I do not have to retake it. Anything above is just icing on the cake, heck a combined of 30 will do if none of my scores dip below a 9.

 

[Amit1]

I looked over my physics section and verbal section today. I circled all the ones I missed and did them over from scratch, not knowing the wrong answer or the right answer.

On the physics I only missed three when I took the wrong answers again which equates to like a 13 or 14 😱

On verbal I got 7 correct that I missed the last time which would pull me up to a 12 or 13 😱

I will go over Bio today and see how I did - however I think Orgo really killed me in Bio - I only got 65% in the orgo but 80% in the bio.

Either 5R was too easy or it looks like im in good shape!


BTW - Before you go off thinking im some kind of cocky genius, im not. I am a 3.70 (OU) student with some C's and I consider myself to be of above average intelligence, but not genius. I don't hole up in my room and study all the time, in fact I only put in about 2 hours a day on the mcat. I think we are all capable of scoring well - even those mega high scores like 35+ don't seem out of the question.

 

[birdie]

Amit, did you have to pay to get the revised editions of the aamc tests? I got an e-mail from aamc offering me one free revised aamc test. Is that the one you used? I have the aamcs that i bought last year, but are the revised ones similar with only a few verbal questions taken out?

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by birdie
Amit, did you have to pay to get the revised editions of the aamc tests? I got an e-mail from aamc offering me one free revised aamc test. Is that the one you used? I have the aamcs that i bought last year, but are the revised ones similar with only a few verbal questions taken out?

TPR administers 5R and 6R, www.e-mcat.com will give you 3r-6r for only 50 bucks or so, also they give the free 3R you were talking about. The site is owned and operated by AAMC if im not mistaken.

 

[Flack Pinku]

Scores on TPR Diags: (chronological order)

P - V - B
5 - 3 - 7 (15)
8 - 4 - 6 (18)
9 - 8 - 8 (25)

AAMC 3R
9 - 11 - 9 (29)

AAMC 5R
14 - 8 - 10 (32)

I have no clue how I got an 11 on 3R Verbal and how I got a 14 on 5R Physical Sciences. Extreme outliers...

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by Flack Pinku
Scores on TPR Diags: (chronological order)

P - V - B
5 - 3 - 7 (15)
8 - 4 - 6 (18)
9 - 8 - 8 (25)

AAMC 3R
9 - 11 - 9 (29)

AAMC 5R
14 - 8 - 10 (32)

I have no clue how I got an 11 on 3R Verbal and how I got a 14 on 5R Physical Sciences. Extreme outliers...

It looks like we have very similar progressions. I got a 14 on my first test and after looking over the 5R verbal again I realized that I shifted my answers over resulting in me missing 7 questions in a row due to the bubbling error. So if I had 7 extra raw points on my verbal it would be about an 11, 12, 10 so we would be within a point of each other there too. It will be interesting to see where we end up.

 

[Flack Pinku]

Wow, thats great Amit1.

I wish I was that good with Verbal. I don't know what to do to improve my score there. It's like the forward reaction is not only unfavorable, but kinetics-wise impossible.

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by Flack Pinku
Wow, thats great Amit1.

I wish I was that good with Verbal. I don't know what to do to improve my score there. It's like the forward reaction is not only unfavorable, but kinetics-wise impossible.

Its a little late but have you tried EKVR101 and their strategy? If not I would check it out.

Unfortunately I don't know how much can be done to improve verbal. I know of some people who just tried everything and still scored very very low. However you have shown potential with your 11, so maybe you just need some more practice.

 

[nbharara]

I just bought examkrackers verbal from examkrackers. I have been consistantly scoring between 9 and 10 on kaplan. I hope to use EK's strategy to help me and bring me up to an 11.

How many days just it take for them to send it out from EK? I hope to get it soon, so I can go ahead and use their strategy this weekend.

 

[chapinsita]

Thanks maoeris, congrats to you too! I noticed you went from a 4 to an 8, that's awesome!

I think the AAMC 5r physical sciences had more g-chem than physics, and that could have influenced my high score increase because I think I'm better at gchem. As far as how it compares in difficulty with other TPR diags, I can't really say. For the other diags, I knew I didn't know my physics so I just picked letters randomly and then spent the remaining 40 minutes sleeping on my desk. Stupid, I know, but I was so busy I had no time to learn the stuff.

20 days remaining...........

 

[LoneCoyote]

Hey all,

This is a great discussion we've got going. It's nice to have a little support network discuss the impending test with since I am not that tight with most of the people in my TPR class. Anyway, I am getting them to send me AAMC #5 to do at home so hopefully that can give me more idea of where I am.

As for how I hope to do... as of right now I would like to get either 11 or 12 on verbal, 10 or 11 on bio, and 9 or 10 on physical. If I could get a 33 I will be stoked cuz it will make me feel a bit more secure for the UC application struggle....the curse and the blessing of being a Californian. But I'll be really happy with anything 30 or above. Anyway, I am out of here after 6+ hrs at the library cramming for both MCAT and my classes that I have been neglecting and suddenly seem to be tons of work. Yikes! Good luck everyone and keep posting 🙂

 

[Flack Pinku]

I have to review Biological sciences. I feel that once you get to 8's range, then the only thing that can boost your score higher is review, not practice.

I believe the first few points up to 8 are what you can gain by practice, which gets you familiar with the test questions.

Verbal is something I don't think can go up much these last few days.

 

[chapinsita]

okay, so after talking with some TPR people, I realized EVERYONE and their mama had a huge score improvement on AAMC 5r....coincidence? or is it just easier? I can see how TPR would want to make their diags harder (tricks you into believing they helped you improve), or is the aamc 5r really just easier than the real thing? (Is it even an old but real MCAT?) Now I don't know if I should believe the score increase.

 

[lotrfan81]

Ok, as much as I agree with a lot of people about how TPR is tricking us into thinking that their course is working by making the first tests difficult, I have a couple things to say.

My instructors all along have told us what to expect. They have said that the first diags are harder, they have also said that most people jump on the last two diags. I don't really think they would have told us that if they wanted to maintain the image of making their course look like it's working. If they wanted to portray this image then they wouldn't have said anything and just waited for us to realize, WOW, the course must be really working.

Anyway, I know for myself personally, that I would way rather do a bunch of difficult tests and then get to the MCAT and it be easy than do easy tests and then bomb on the MCAT. Difficult tests challenge us more and then the MCAT will seem easy. I think that this is Princeton's perspective.

I believe that Princeton is far from perfect and I have plenty of problems with them but at least where I am, they have been honest about what was in store for us.

Great discussion. 😀

 

[Amit1]

Okay, until the AAMC 6r heres something for us to discuss. Post our improvement stats.

Class Avg Improvement: 5 points

My Improvement: 16 points (The best improvement by 6 points!)

Study time: 1-2 hours/day weekdays (however these last three weeks im gonna bust my balls and put in many more hours)

Highest Score in class: 32

My score: 30 (32-33 if I didn't do a bubbling error)

 

[nbharara]

Hey Amit,

Congratulations on your improvement! That is so awesome! I haven't made that great of an improment comparatively. I haven't taken the AAMC tests, but I have taken the Kaplan full lengths. I made around a 16 on my Diagnostic and made my highest score of a 29 on the last FL#3.

I don't know how Kaplan FL#3 compares to the real one, so I will be taking AAMC 3R soon to see.

Did you think AAMC 3R was easier (if you took it?) or AAMC 5R? How did they compare to your PR tests?

I just wanted to say congratulations on your improvment. You still got some time to improve more.

Good Luck to everyone!! We are going to kill that test!! 🙂

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by nbharara
Hey Amit,

Congratulations on your improvement! That is so awesome! I haven't made that great of an improment comparatively. I haven't taken the AAMC tests, but I have taken the Kaplan full lengths. I made around a 16 on my Diagnostic and made my highest score of a 29 on the last FL#3.

I don't know how Kaplan FL#3 compares to the real one, so I will be taking AAMC 3R soon to see.

Did you think AAMC 3R was easier (if you took it?) or AAMC 5R? How did they compare to your PR tests?

I just wanted to say congratulations on your improvment. You still got some time to improve more.

Good Luck to everyone!! We are going to kill that test!! 🙂

Thanks, I think TPR is harder than AAMC. AAMC5r and 6r are supposed to be the most accurate. However 3r and 4r are still good, and better indicators than Kaplan or TPR. I still have yet to take 3r, 4r and 6r. I take 6r next saturday and I will finish 3r and 4r in the following weeks.

 

[efex101]

Okay folks just got my TPR diag 4941 scores

9 9 9

I guess not too shabby but only went up one point overall from my last tpr diag, but went up two points on the ps section, one in verbal, but down two in bio dang. I felt that this bio section was somewhat tougher more organic? but overall not too bad. That one passage with lac operon was like huh?

 

[LoneCoyote]

I agree that the bio on 4941 seemed a bit tougher, though I did go up from my last diag. There was definitely harder O-Chem. And the lac-operon passage made me really happy because I took genetics last semester and literally spent a month on that thing. I guess it just shows how much of this can be luck on the test day.

 

[latinfridley]

AAMC 6R is done with.
here are my scores:
bio 10
phy 11
ver 8

Note: up 2 in phys, down one in verb, stayed same in bio. verb kicked my butt. got the first 3 psg q all right, but then fell off from there.
Arrrghhh...shiat. need at least 30.

 

[efex101]

Man I am so ticked off, our TPR is not giving us any AAMC exams! Thank God that I have my own, but they are not the R series. I feel bad for the other folks whom do not have any AAMC exams and were at least hoping for one from tpr. We just took 4951 and it was hard, and of course the answers are not online so I have to wait until wed to get my scores, grrrr... Are you guys taking more exams from now on? tpr does not have any more exams scheduled but I am planning on taking aamc 4,5,6 on my own. Any comments on number 4? I hope that I do not crash and burn, I have to take all three next week, cause I do not want to take any on the week of the mcat. What do you guys think?

 

[LoneCoyote]

I got MCATs 5R and 6R from the TPR office here to do on my own. Does anyone have the answers for these tests or know if they are available free online anywhere? I did not not remember seeing it on the TPR answer thing online. The office here is so disorganized I know it will rake them a week to score the tests if I do them on my own. Thanks 🙂

 

[chapinsita]

are you looking for just the answers (as in 1.a, 2.b, 3.a) or actual explanations? cuz if you got the 5r/6r booklets from TPR, the answers are in the back, the scale is there too. Just no explanations but it helps more if you actually go through your notes to explain the ones you got wrong instead of just reading the explaination and passively accepting it. My TPR class took 6r today, but I think I'll wait till Tues before MCAT to take it and THEN decide if it'll be that saturday or Aug.

Did anyone find it harder than 5r?

 

[loomis]

in depth explanations for 5R and 6R are on the TPR website; www.review.com.
you should sign in with your e-mail that you used to sign up for the class...there is a bunch of MCAT tools you can use; among them are your MCAT diag scores and another link for pdf files of the explanantions.
hope that helps!

 

[birdie]

I have some TPR exams that I bought from someone last year. They are numbered 4281-4286. Are these the same as the ones that ya'll are referring to, just in the new format for 2003? I'm confused. Did TPR renumber their exams?

 

[LoneCoyote]

Thanks for the help on the answers. I didn't get a formal booklet, just xeroxes of the tests so it didn't have the answers/scoring. But I found the stuff on my personal TPR page. 🙂

and chapinista, I recall someone saying on one of the threads on here that they though exam 6 was one of the closest to the real MCAT.

 

[Amit1]

Did everyone have their TPR AAMC 6r test moved back to next saturday? Thats what happened to my class.