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When I was studying for this thing, I really would have liked to have seen practice test scores to compare to mine...so here are my TPR scores while I was studying.
I got a 12/9/13 on the June 13 MCAT. My aamc average was about a 36 (14/9/13) with a high of 39 (aamc 5 and aamc 9) and a low of 33 (aamc 10).
TPR scores:
Diag 1 (3 months before real MCAT): 9/8/10
Diag 2 (2 weeks after diag 1): 11/5/11
Diag 3 (4 weeks after diag 1): 12/6/11
Diag 5 (2 months after diag 1): 14/7/13
Diag 4 (2.5 months after diag 1): 11/10/12
The last ones were all taken in the last 2 weeks before the MCAT after all content review was done:
Diag 6: 11/10/11
Diag 7: 13/8/11
Diag 8: 11/5/10 <--this was about a week before my mcat and gave me a lot of grief 😱
Diag 9: Only took PS= 15

I also took most of the kaplan practice tests and all the AAMCs. I can add those to this list if it'll help anyone?
Anyway, I hope this is useful. Good luck studying! :luck:
 
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Judging from your scores above, I'd say your physical sciences are excellent, but you could work a bit on the verbal, but the annoying thing about Verbal is that your performance could vary depending on the passage and questions, whether you can decode them into an understandable language of your own.

If you want an analysis of your scores, then I'll show you the MCAT pyramid, composed of 3 levels.

1. The Bottom Layer - The Commoners or the Low Level Test Takers. They are people with scores of under 30, which make up the majority of the MCAT takers. MCAT is difficult and intimidating to the inexperienced eyes, so those people are people who have not done enough preparation, are new to sciences (the Humanity majors), or are people who just don't have the science brains. In other words, they are people who haven't worked that hard. The only medical schools they could make it to are the poorer ones.

2. The Middle Layer - The Middle Class, or the Intermediate Level Test Takers. They are people from score range of anywhere from 30~36. They are experienced test takers, people who rank in the top 1/3 of their classes if they major in sciences, and people who have done a decent amount of preparation. They're people who can make it to good medical schools if they try. They can make it to average state universities all the way to schools in the top 50s, but it will be hard to make it to the top 10s.

3. The Highest Layer - The Noble Class, or the Advanced Level "Genius" Test Takers. They are people with averages in the range of 37 all the way to the 40s. They are people who worked hard to the point of insanity, or have the gift of wisdom bestowed upon them by the fingers of heaven (prodigies, those damn bastards =D). Normal people will be unable to attain those levels, because of their limits of intelligence, but they can still reach that level by working twice as hard. These people are also known as the "Harvard, John Hopkins" ranks.

I've seen an upperclassman girl who barely ranked average in her class, but so dedicated to making it to the MCATs that she worked twice as hard as anyone who tried for medical school. If you saw her face after 2 months of studying, you'd think you say a ghoul from the swamps. She had little talent in sciences, but through sheer hard work, she managed to scrap a 40R on her MCATs. 40 damn it.

jgberken - your scores are the best of the intermediate level. But I saw you had potential, so why don't you take it up a notch or two, and make it all the way to the top? Become a noble - get yourselves up to the Harvard, John Hopkin Ranks. SHINE
 
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I bust my ass everyday but I still remain in the 20s in my TPR diags. So I guess I'm an exception.
 
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Raigon said:
Judging from your scores above, I'd say your physical sciences are excellent, but you could work a bit on the verbal, but the annoying thing about Verbal is that your performance could vary depending on the passage and questions, whether you can decode them into an understandable language of your own.

If you want an analysis of your scores, then I'll show you the MCAT pyramid, composed of 3 levels.

1. The Bottom Layer - The Commoners or the Low Level Test Takers. They are people with scores of under 30, which make up the majority of the MCAT takers. MCAT is difficult and intimidating to the inexperienced eyes, so those people are people who have not done enough preparation, are new to sciences (the Humanity majors), or are people who just don't have the science brains. In other words, they are people who haven't worked that hard. The only medical schools they could make it to are the poorer ones.

2. The Middle Layer - The Middle Class, or the Intermediate Level Test Takers. They are people from score range of anywhere from 30~36. They are experienced test takers, people who rank in the top 1/3 of their classes if they major in sciences, and people who have done a decent amount of preparation. They're people who can make it to good medical schools if they try. They can make it to average state universities all the way to schools in the top 50s, but it will be hard to make it to the top 10s.

3. The Highest Layer - The Noble Class, or the Advanced Level "Genius" Test Takers. They are people with averages in the range of 37 all the way to the 40s. They are people who worked hard to the point of insanity, or have the gift of wisdom bestowed upon them by the fingers of heaven (prodigies, those damn bastards =D). Normal people will be unable to attain those levels, because of their limits of intelligence, but they can still reach that level by working twice as hard. These people are also known as the "Harvard, John Hopkins" ranks.

I've seen an upperclassman girl who barely ranked average in her class, but so dedicated to making it to the MCATs that she worked twice as hard as anyone who tried for medical school. If you saw her face after 2 months of studying, you'd think you say a ghoul from the swamps. She had little talent in sciences, but through sheer hard work, she managed to scrap a 40R on her MCATs. 40 damn it.

jgberken - your scores are the best of the intermediate level. But I saw you had potential, so why don't you take it up a notch or two, and make it all the way to the top? Become a noble - get yourselves up to the Harvard, John Hopkin Ranks. SHINE
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heyyy... im a humanity major (music)... I don't want to be in the bottom layer! dangit...
 
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jgberken said:
When I was studying for this thing, I really would have liked to have seen practice test scores to compare to mine...so here are my TPR scores while I was studying.
I got a 12/9/13 on the June 13 MCAT. My aamc average was about a 36 (14/9/13) with a high of 39 (aamc 5 and aamc 9) and a low of 33 (aamc 10).
TPR scores:
Diag 1 (3 months before real MCAT): 9/8/10
Diag 2 (2 weeks after diag 1): 11/5/11
Diag 3 (4 weeks after diag 1): 12/6/11
Diag 5 (2 months after diag 1): 14/7/13
Diag 4 (2.5 months after diag 1): 11/10/12
The last ones were all taken in the last 2 weeks before the MCAT after all content review was done:
Diag 6: 11/10/11
Diag 7: 13/8/11
Diag 8: 11/5/10 <--this was about a week before my mcat and gave me a lot of grief 😱
Diag 9: Only took PS= 15

I also took most of the kaplan practice tests and all the AAMCs. I can add those to this list if it'll help anyone?
Anyway, I hope this is useful. Good luck studying! :luck:
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Can you please post your Kaplan tests?
 
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moto_za said:
Can you please post your Kaplan tests?
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Sure! I'll do that tomorrow (i've got homework to finish tonight). But, just as a disclaimer, TPR scores and Kaplan scores differ for each person! Some people told me that their tpr scores were only 2 points lower than their aamc average while mine were way more. So, none of this is absolute! It depends on each person.
 
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ncguy2005 said:
heyyy... im a humanity major (music)... I don't want to be in the bottom layer! dangit...
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lol I took the mcat without a science pre-req except for bio and from a kinesiology arts degree... and scored middle range.... the pyramid isn't prone to exceptions
 
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ofoshoukno said:
My TPR CBT scores suck 🙁

I need a hug
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don't let it discourage you! it's hard...but i always remember what supafield told me when i was agonizing over my lower tpr scores. he (she?) said that the practice test scores don't matter. the only thing that matters is what you learn from it. so just learn from your mistakes!
 
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jgberken said:
don't let it discourage you! it's hard...but i always remember what supafield told me when i was agonizing over my lower tpr scores. he (she?) said that the practice test scores don't matter. the only thing that matters is what you learn from it. so just learn from your mistakes!
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Your right, if you learn from your mistake on a TPR exam then your less likely to commit it on the aamc exams and therefore less likely to commit it on the actual MCAT.
 
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Raigon said:
Judging from your scores above, I'd say your physical sciences are excellent, but you could work a bit on the verbal, but the annoying thing about Verbal is that your performance could vary depending on the passage and questions, whether you can decode them into an understandable language of your own.

If you want an analysis of your scores, then I'll show you the MCAT pyramid, composed of 3 levels.

1. The Bottom Layer - The Commoners or the Low Level Test Takers. They are people with scores of under 30, which make up the majority of the MCAT takers. MCAT is difficult and intimidating to the inexperienced eyes, so those people are people who have not done enough preparation, are new to sciences (the Humanity majors), or are people who just don't have the science brains. In other words, they are people who haven't worked that hard. The only medical schools they could make it to are the poorer ones.

2. The Middle Layer - The Middle Class, or the Intermediate Level Test Takers. They are people from score range of anywhere from 30~36. They are experienced test takers, people who rank in the top 1/3 of their classes if they major in sciences, and people who have done a decent amount of preparation. They're people who can make it to good medical schools if they try. They can make it to average state universities all the way to schools in the top 50s, but it will be hard to make it to the top 10s.

3. The Highest Layer - The Noble Class, or the Advanced Level "Genius" Test Takers. They are people with averages in the range of 37 all the way to the 40s. They are people who worked hard to the point of insanity, or have the gift of wisdom bestowed upon them by the fingers of heaven (prodigies, those damn bastards =D). Normal people will be unable to attain those levels, because of their limits of intelligence, but they can still reach that level by working twice as hard. These people are also known as the "Harvard, John Hopkins" ranks.

I've seen an upperclassman girl who barely ranked average in her class, but so dedicated to making it to the MCATs that she worked twice as hard as anyone who tried for medical school. If you saw her face after 2 months of studying, you'd think you say a ghoul from the swamps. She had little talent in sciences, but through sheer hard work, she managed to scrap a 40R on her MCATs. 40 damn it.

jgberken - your scores are the best of the intermediate level. But I saw you had potential, so why don't you take it up a notch or two, and make it all the way to the top? Become a noble - get yourselves up to the Harvard, John Hopkin Ranks. SHINE
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This is HIGHLYoffensive. I took TPR....studied my ass off for over a year and ended up with a 29. My weakness was verbal. I did well in the sciences. Your definition of "poor" medical schools is based on what....the US News Rankings.....that is a pretty poor way to rank what medical school is the best fit for your goals. Be careful what you say because your arrogance will come back to haunt you.
 
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jgberken said:
Sure! I'll do that tomorrow (i've got homework to finish tonight). But, just as a disclaimer, TPR scores and Kaplan scores differ for each person! Some people told me that their tpr scores were only 2 points lower than their aamc average while mine were way more. So, none of this is absolute! It depends on each person.
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Jgberken! Thanks for the post. Can you post your kaplan scores? I only have access to kaplan tests. Did you think your score on the kaplan tests were somewhat predictive of your actual and what you actually got tested on for the mcat?

Congrats on your score btw!
 
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Star2008 said:
Jgberken! Thanks for the post. Can you post your kaplan scores? I only have access to kaplan tests. Did you think your score on the kaplan tests were somewhat predictive of your actual and what you actually got tested on for the mcat?

Congrats on your score btw!
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Thnaks star! Sure, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon (too much homework again tonight 🙁).
My kaplan scores correlated closely with my practice aamc scores. At the time, I thought they predicted my score well. It turned out to be a little higher than my actual score...but I still think the kaplan tests are closer to your score than the tprs.
 
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jgberken said:
Thnaks star! Sure, I'll do that tomorrow afternoon (too much homework again tonight 🙁).
My kaplan scores correlated closely with my practice aamc scores. At the time, I thought they predicted my score well. It turned out to be a little higher than my actual score...but I still think the kaplan tests are closer to your score than the tprs.
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yay, thanks for the post! I only have access to kaplan material and really really hope that they are predictive of the actual test/score. Your comment was exactly what I wanted to hear. 😛

Good luck with your classes.
 
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Raigon said:
Judging from your scores above, I'd say your physical sciences are excellent, but you could work a bit on the verbal, but the annoying thing about Verbal is that your performance could vary depending on the passage and questions, whether you can decode them into an understandable language of your own.

If you want an analysis of your scores, then I'll show you the MCAT pyramid, composed of 3 levels.

1. The Bottom Layer - The Commoners or the Low Level Test Takers. They are people with scores of under 30, which make up the majority of the MCAT takers. MCAT is difficult and intimidating to the inexperienced eyes, so those people are people who have not done enough preparation, are new to sciences (the Humanity majors), or are people who just don't have the science brains. In other words, they are people who haven't worked that hard. The only medical schools they could make it to are the poorer ones.

2. The Middle Layer - The Middle Class, or the Intermediate Level Test Takers. They are people from score range of anywhere from 30~36. They are experienced test takers, people who rank in the top 1/3 of their classes if they major in sciences, and people who have done a decent amount of preparation. They're people who can make it to good medical schools if they try. They can make it to average state universities all the way to schools in the top 50s, but it will be hard to make it to the top 10s.

3. The Highest Layer - The Noble Class, or the Advanced Level "Genius" Test Takers. They are people with averages in the range of 37 all the way to the 40s. They are people who worked hard to the point of insanity, or have the gift of wisdom bestowed upon them by the fingers of heaven (prodigies, those damn bastards =D). Normal people will be unable to attain those levels, because of their limits of intelligence, but they can still reach that level by working twice as hard. These people are also known as the "Harvard, John Hopkins" ranks.

I've seen an upperclassman girl who barely ranked average in her class, but so dedicated to making it to the MCATs that she worked twice as hard as anyone who tried for medical school. If you saw her face after 2 months of studying, you'd think you say a ghoul from the swamps. She had little talent in sciences, but through sheer hard work, she managed to scrap a 40R on her MCATs. 40 damn it.

jgberken - your scores are the best of the intermediate level. But I saw you had potential, so why don't you take it up a notch or two, and make it all the way to the top? Become a noble - get yourselves up to the Harvard, John Hopkin Ranks. SHINE
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well ok, I guess this could hold if you consider it the Hardy Weinberg model of the MCAT pyramid.
 
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Here are my TPRs also, if it helps
2) TPR 3 Diagn (03/24/2008): PS: 12, VR: 07, BS: 10 -- Composite = 29
3) TPR 4 Diagn (03/29/2008): PS: 10, VR: 09, BS: 13 -- Composite = 32
4) TPR 5 Diagn (04/03/2008): PS: 10, VR: 09, BS: 15 -- Composite = 34
5) TPR 6 Diagn (04/06/2008): PS: 10, VR: 08, BS: 11 -- Composite = 29
6) TPR 7 Diagn (04/07/2008): PS: 12, VR: 08, BS: 12 -- Composite = 32

TPR Average: PS: 10.8, VR: 8.2, BS: 12.2 = 31.2
Range: 29-34
Highest Combination of TPRs: 36
Lowest Combination of TPRs: 27

*During this time between TPR's and AAMC's I worked on some weaknesses I had in PS.

Here are my AAMC's after my completed content review
13) AAMC 04 CBT (06/04/2008): PS: 14, VR: 11, BS: 11 -- Composite = 36
14) AAMC 06 CBT (06/05/2008): PS: 12, VR: 11, BS: 13 -- Composite = 36
15) AAMC 08 CBT (06/08/2008): PS: 12, VR: 10, BS: 13 -- Composite = 35
16) AAMC 10 CBT (06/10/2008): PS: 13, VR: 10, BS: 13 -- Composite = 36

AAMC Average: PS: 12.75, VR: 10.5, BS: 12.5 = 35.75
Range: 35-36
Highest Combination of AAMCs: 38
Lowest Combination of AAMCs: 33

Actual MCAT (6/13)
PS: 11, VR: 9, BS: 13 = 33
 
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Wow tncekm! I didn't realized you got screwed over that badly (score was much less the practice scores!) I was going over my aamcs and, yeah, mine went down a lot too. I guess this is why it's important to keep studying no matter what your score on your practice tests are. If we had settled for 33-34 on aamcs, and we had a 3 point drop...that probably would have been more disappointing, right?
Anyway, I just had to say that. 🙂
 
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jgberken said:
Wow tncekm! I didn't realized you got screwed over that badly (score was much less the practice scores!) I was going over my aamcs and, yeah, mine went down a lot too. I guess this is why it's important to keep studying no matter what your score on your practice tests are. If we had settled for 33-34 on aamcs, and we had a 3 point drop...that probably would have been more disappointing, right?
Anyway, I just had to say that. 🙂
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Yeah, I remember telling myself the purpose of my working hard to score high was so that IF I were to go in and get beat up, I could afford a few point hit.

I thought I took more than a few point hit, so in that sense I'm happy as hell with my 33. But, of course, everyone always wants to do as good or better than their practices. 🙂
 
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tncekm said:
Yeah, I remember telling myself the purpose of my working hard to score high was so that IF I were to go in and get beat up, I could afford a few point hit.

I thought I took more than a few point hit, so in that sense I'm happy as hell with my 33. But, of course, everyone always wants to do as good or better than their practices. 🙂
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Yep. We did fine...so it's not that big of a deal if there was a few point drop.
Great new signature, btw 😉
 
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jgberken said:
Yep. We did fine...so it's not that big of a deal if there was a few point drop.
Great new signature, btw 😉
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Hahaha, yeah, we did okay...Yep, I'm pretty sure we're going to medical school next year, and I'm becoming more and more flipping ecstatic by the minute. 😀
 
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jgberken said:
When I was studying for this thing, I really would have liked to have seen practice test scores to compare to mine...so here are my TPR scores while I was studying.
I got a 12/9/13 on the June 13 MCAT. My aamc average was about a 36 (14/9/13) with a high of 39 (aamc 5 and aamc 9) and a low of 33 (aamc 10).
TPR scores:
Diag 1 (3 months before real MCAT): 9/8/10
Diag 2 (2 weeks after diag 1): 11/5/11
Diag 3 (4 weeks after diag 1): 12/6/11
Diag 5 (2 months after diag 1): 14/7/13
Diag 4 (2.5 months after diag 1): 11/10/12
The last ones were all taken in the last 2 weeks before the MCAT after all content review was done:
Diag 6: 11/10/11
Diag 7: 13/8/11
Diag 8: 11/5/10 <--this was about a week before my mcat and gave me a lot of grief 😱
Diag 9: Only took PS= 15

I also took most of the kaplan practice tests and all the AAMCs. I can add those to this list if it'll help anyone?
Anyway, I hope this is useful. Good luck studying! :luck:
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Your scores are proof that Verbal TPR is a load of horse crap.

Especially the last two TPR diags, the verbal is insanely hard.
 
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Ok...here are my Kaplan scores. I only took kaplan 1-4, 6, and the PS for 7:
Kaplan 1 (about 1 year before my test 😳): 11/8/12
Kaplan 2 (2 months before test): 14/9/13 (36)
Kaplan 3 (about 3 weeks before test): 13/11/14 (38)
Kaplan 7 (same day as kaplan 3; only took PS): 15
Kaplan 4 (1.5 weeks before test): 13/11/14 (38)
Kaplan 6 (the day after kaplan 4): 13/10/14 (37)

So, my kaplan scores ranged from 36-38. Although this is higher than my score real MCAT score (34), it was always really close to my scores on AAMC. Although my kaplan scores were close to the aamc scores, most other people told me kaplan scores are inflated. So, it really depends on the person!
 
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lastcall said:
Eh, ofoshoukno, here's a *hug*.(i'm a girl). I finally finished that verbal workbook... I want to throw my verbal workbook away. Or cry. Or just eat Ben & Jerrys ice cream.
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TPR is a conglomerate which is more in favor of making money, than improving the scores of their students, they make some of their stuff ridiculously hard compared to aamc. My physics teacher for MCAT TPR said after taking his first aamc exam, his score went up 5 points total compared to his TPR diags. Why doesn't TPR make their exams as difficult as the aamc's?

ps-Ben & Jerry's 👍

perhaps this Dark Knight spoof trailer will cheer you up!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8sYBqhOEdRQ

BlueElmo said:
I want to throw my ICC away. That book depresses me more than almost anything else.
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All in favor of burning their ICC's in the middle of your street of residence, after we are done with the MCAT, say I!

Henceforth we shall be known as the Coalition of the Willing!
 
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ofoshoukno said:
TPR is a conglomerate which is more in favor of making money, than improving the scores of their students, they make some of their stuff ridiculously hard compared to aamc. My physics teacher for MCAT TPR said after taking his first aamc exam, his score went up 5 points total compared to his TPR diags. Why doesn't TPR make their exams as difficult as the aamc's?

ps-Ben & Jerry's 👍

perhaps this Dark Knight spoof trailer will cheer you up!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8sYBqhOEdRQ



All in favor of burning their ICC's in the middle of your street of residence, after we are done with the MCAT, say I!

Henceforth we shall be known as the Coalition of the Willing!
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I. BTW, that youtube link cheered me up, and I just came back from being raped by ICC from my TPR class right now.
Sigh. Can't wait for the 18th.
 
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jgberken said:
Ok...here are my Kaplan scores. I only took kaplan 1-4, 6, and the PS for 7:
Kaplan 1 (about 1 year before my test 😳): 11/8/12
Kaplan 2 (2 months before test): 14/9/13 (36)
Kaplan 3 (about 3 weeks before test): 13/11/14 (38)
Kaplan 7 (same day as kaplan 3; only took PS): 15
Kaplan 4 (1.5 weeks before test): 13/11/14 (38)
Kaplan 6 (the day after kaplan 4): 13/10/14 (37)

So, my kaplan scores ranged from 36-38. Although this is higher than my score real MCAT score (34), it was always really close to my scores on AAMC. Although my kaplan scores were close to the aamc scores, most other people told me kaplan scores are inflated. So, it really depends on the person!
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Thanks for taking the time to post this!!
 
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