Transferring to NYU Dental....Good Choice?

[jm326]

Hey Guys..

I am currently a first year dental student and am strongly considering transferring to NYU Dental ....I just need a little help especially from current NYU Dent Students, to learn more about the Curriculum, Professors, Workload, Board Prep and Clinic Responsibilities....Also I would appreciate any concerns and information in regards to the Large student body and how it plays a role in the third and fourth years of school.

Thank you.

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[Lopyswine]

I had a general question about transfers.

How difficult is it on average to transfer schools? I will be a student at IU dental school next year. My family and fiance will be moving to a different state. How hard to you think it will be to transfer to that states dental school?

What kind of grades do you need to get transfered is class rank what is important? When you apply to transfer, do you also need to send undergrad grades?

 

[jackbauer!]

In general, it is very difficult to transfer schools. Why? Because schools, especially private, are funded heavily by tuition dollars. They lose you, they lose your money.

jb!🙂

 

[xenomblack]

In general, it is very difficult to transfer schools. Why? Because schools, especially private, are funded heavily by tuition dollars. They lose you, they lose your money.

jb!🙂

What if you are moving to a private school?

Also, why would the school you are transferring FROM matter from this?
Wouldn't the school you are going TO the important factor?

 

[armorshell]

The only important factor is why you want to transfer schools.

 

[jackbauer!]

What if you are moving to a private school?

Also, why would the school you are transferring FROM matter from this?
Wouldn't the school you are going TO the important factor?

Yeah, but the school you're transferring from has your transcripts.

jb!🙂

 

[Lopyswine]

Yeah, but the school you're transferring from has your transcripts.

jb!🙂

do you have any evidence to support what you are implying? How would a school even know you are planning on transferring?

 

[jackbauer!]

do you have any evidence to support what you are implying? How would a school even know you are planning on transferring?

generally, the dean at the school you are transferring from must write a letter basically saying that you are in "good standing." basically, he is giving you permission to transfer. in this case, no letter = no transfer.

i'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not as easy as packing up your bags and taking an open seat at another school. you must have a damn good reason to transfer.

jb!🙂

 

[Yellow Snow]

I don't know anything about transferring but re: large class size and clinic years the upper classmen I have talked with indicate it isn't an issue getting patients or chairs.

 

[jm326]

How about in regards to class competition? as well as Advancing from year to year? Does the nyu have a high tendency on holding back students from advancing from each year? or are they very geared towards everyone advancing onto the next year with the class?

 

[armorshell]

How about in regards to class competition? as well as Advancing from year to year? Does the nyu have a high tendency on holding back students from advancing from each year? or are they very geared towards everyone advancing onto the next year with the class?

Why do you want to transfer to NYU?

 

[jm326]

Closer to home........

Why? are there reasons why i shouldnt want to transfer to NYU?

 

[litldime]

i thought you couldn't transfer schools unless it was for a pretty damn good reason....that's what i remember reading

 

[Columbia07]

Closer to home........

Why? are there reasons why i shouldnt want to transfer to NYU?

This is definitely not a good enough reason. Is it causing any mental illness? This might work...

Good luck!

 

[dentwannabe]

This is definitely not a good enough reason. Is it causing any mental illness? This might work...

Good luck!

what??

Listen, to the OP, NYU has large classes, is VERY expensive, you don't get personalized attention like in other schools (the teacher student ratio isn't bad, its just not as personal as other schools). But if you're one of those people who doesn't have to be babied, you'll be great here, there really are a lot of opportunities if thats what you want. its a world class research institution. Facilities are pretty nice relative to some other schools, but there are drawbacks as with everything. most professors are pretty good. Not many "random lecturers" like undergrad who had no idea what they were doing.

If you study hard you'll pass. and if you work your ass off, you'll get good grades. but i don't know your study habits.

its a personal decision.

Oh... to columbia... I'll take grammercy any day over washington heights.....

 

[Columbia07]

what??

Listen, to the OP, NYU has large classes, is VERY expensive, you don't get personalized attention like in other schools (the teacher student ratio isn't bad, its just not as personal as other schools). But if you're one of those people who doesn't have to be babied, you'll be great here, there really are a lot of opportunities if thats what you want. its a world class research institution. Facilities are pretty nice relative to some other schools, but there are drawbacks as with everything. most professors are pretty good. Not many "random lecturers" like undergrad who had no idea what they were doing.

If you study hard you'll pass. and if you work your ass off, you'll get good grades. but i don't know your study habits.

its a personal decision.

Oh... to columbia... I'll take grammercy any day over washington heights.....

1. I never told the OP not to transfer to NYUCD. I specifically stated that his reason (being to far from home) would NOT be a good enough reason to transfer. Also, the mental illness comment was a joke (maybe being away from his family is causing depression, etc.)

2. I'm not sure why were competing about living arrangements. For one, I don't live in NYC anymore. Two, I lived in Hell's Kitchen when I was there. And, yes, Gramercy Park is nice, but I'd hate to see your tuition bill after 4 years of NYU and Gramercy Park living.

Seriously, get over it dentwannabe.

 

[armorshell]

1. I never told the OP not to transfer to NYUCD. I specifically stated that his reason (being to far from home) would NOT be a good enough reason to transfer. Also, the mental illness comment was a joke (maybe being away from his family is causing depression, etc.)

2. I'm not sure why were competing about living arrangements. For one, I don't live in NYC anymore. Two, I lived in Hell's Kitchen when I was there. And, yes, Gramercy Park is nice, but I'd hate to see your tuition bill after 4 years of NYU and Gramercy Park living.

Seriously, get over it dentwannabe.

Pure ownage.

 

[armorshell]

Closer to home........

Why? are there reasons why i shouldnt want to transfer to NYU?

No reason, but like Columbia said that's not going to be a good enough reason for your current school or NYU to let you transfer.

 

[dentwannabe]

1. I never told the OP not to transfer to NYUCD. I specifically stated that his reason (being to far from home) would NOT be a good enough reason to transfer. Also, the mental illness comment was a joke (maybe being away from his family is causing depression, etc.)

2. I'm not sure why were competing about living arrangements. For one, I don't live in NYC anymore. Two, I lived in Hell's Kitchen when I was there. And, yes, Gramercy Park is nice, but I'd hate to see your tuition bill after 4 years of NYU and Gramercy Park living.

Seriously, get over it dentwannabe.

um.. my comment was directed mostly to the OP. As I said, "To the O.P."

I said "what???" because your comment was phrased weird.

And what I said to you was not about living arrangement.... I could care less where you live. I personally don't even live in manhattan. Simple reason: I don't want to take out a bigger loan than I'm already taking (as you noted, we do pay a lot at nyu... but from what I understand columbia isn't too far off). I was simply talking about the area of the SCHOOLS. And again, I'd take NYU's location over Columbia's any day.

Armorshell... relax.

 

[dentwannabe]

No reason, but like Columbia said that's not going to be a good enough reason for your current school or NYU to let you transfer.

Actually armorshell, schools do understand "family reasons" as possible reasons for transferring. I know of several people who attempted and/or transferred with the valid excuse of 'missing home (family)'. This could be a daughter/son from a close-knit family, a newly wed missing his wife and kid, or an engaged couple separated by distance. Sure, not all the examples I know of actually got in, but it wasn't because of their excuse, its usually because the school they're trying to get into is very selective and/or lacks space.

 

[armorshell]

Actually armorshell, schools do understand "family reasons" as possible reasons for transferring. I know of several people who attempted and/or transferred with the valid excuse of 'missing home (family)'. This could be a daughter/son from a close-knit family, a newly wed missing his wife and kid, or an engaged couple separated by distance. Sure, not all the examples I know of actually got in, but it wasn't because of their excuse, its usually because the school they're trying to get into is very selective and/or lacks space.

I didn't hear any of these. I heard "...closer to home."

Feel free to assume I said whatever you feel like assuming though.

 

[dentwannabe]

I didn't hear any of these. I heard "...closer to home."

Feel free to assume I said whatever you feel like assuming though.

Well, usually "closer to home" means/includes what I mentioned. I can't imagine anyone going up the dean saying "I'd like to transfer." And when he says "why?" for the person to say, "Because I want to be closer to home." He probably means in the sense of being close to family BECAUSE it is more beneficial for him as a student, etc. I don't know, only the O.P. can fill us in here.

 

[kokobean]

I go to nyu..
i want to transfer OUT of nyu.

let's trade spots.

 

[tamkhan]

I go to nyu..
i want to transfer OUT of nyu.

let's trade spots.

where do you want to transfer to? in fact, why do you want to transfer? isn't transferring a big pain in the a**?

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

I had a general question about transfers.

How difficult is it on average to transfer schools? I will be a student at IU dental school next year. My family and fiance will be moving to a different state. How hard to you think it will be to transfer to that states dental school?

What kind of grades do you need to get transfered is class rank what is important? When you apply to transfer, do you also need to send undergrad grades?

Most dental schools don't accept transfer applicants. Only in "unusual" circumstances, and I don't know what they are.

I do know that if you do decide on "transferring" to another dental school, you're going to have to start from scratch and re-submit the good ol' AADSAS application, and start as a D-1 at the dental school you want to switch to.

My advice: don't do it. Just wasting another year, and paying a lot more money/tuition for that one extra year.

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

Hey Guys..

I am currently a first year dental student and am strongly considering transferring to NYU Dental ....I just need a little help especially from current NYU Dent Students, to learn more about the Curriculum, Professors, Workload, Board Prep and Clinic Responsibilities....Also I would appreciate any concerns and information in regards to the Large student body and how it plays a role in the third and fourth years of school.

Thank you.

Same question that amorshell asked you. Why do you want to transfer to NYU's dental school? I heard a lot of not-so-good things about that dental school from a colleague of mine who attended NYU for his pre-doctoral program.

I know I am honest and tend to talk some bad things about my dental school where I'm at. But man, NYU is probably the last dental school I would want to transfer to.

The fact that they cut around 10-15 students per year from their large class size is true. My friend also told me a lot of the students are cut-throat, and the local new-yorker students are the "in your face" type of students who like to play hard-ball when it comes to class competition.

I can tell you more. Just send me a PM.

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

Actually armorshell, schools do understand "family reasons" as possible reasons for transferring. I know of several people who attempted and/or transferred with the valid excuse of 'missing home (family)'. This could be a daughter/son from a close-knit family, a newly wed missing his wife and kid, or an engaged couple separated by distance. Sure, not all the examples I know of actually got in, but it wasn't because of their excuse, its usually because the school they're trying to get into is very selective and/or lacks space.

You do have to take into consideration that you need "permission" from your current dental school to transfer out to another dental school. As with many dental schools, the community is small, and gossips are commonplace. If you transfer out of your current dental school, you just took up a spot that somebody else could have taken. Somebody else who wanted to attend that dental school you're leaving.

 

[Columbia07]

Same question that amorshell asked you. Why do you want to transfer to NYU's dental school? I heard a lot of not-so-good things about that dental school from a colleague of mine who attended NYU for his pre-doctoral program.

I know I am honest and tend to talk some bad things about my dental school where I'm at. But man, NYU is probably the last dental school I would want to transfer to.

The fact that they cut around 10-15 students per year from their large class size is true. My friend also told me a lot of the students are cut-throat, and the local new-yorker students are the "in your face" type of students who like to play hard-ball when it comes to class competition.

I can tell you more. Just send me a PM.

1. You are very naive.

2. "New Yorker student are the in your face type of students." is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I went to college in New York City and I can tell you that this is not how students are in New York. I'm not even sure you could lump all of the students in New York City into one category.

3. NYUCD does not cut students--students simply fail out (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was told at my interview and by a close friend who is a D3 there).

 

[djeffreyt]

I go to nyu..
i want to transfer OUT of nyu.

let's trade spots.

Wow Koko, Has the first half of your first year really been that bad?

The fact that they cut around 10-15 students per year from their large class size is true. My friend also told me a lot of the students are cut-throat, and the local new-yorker students are the "in your face" type of students who like to play hard-ball when it comes to class competition.

I can tell you more

I usually avoid talking definitively about schools I don't attend, even when I do have friends who attend those schools and talk to me. I don't know if your comments about NYU are accurate or not, but I do have a former NYU student (did her undergrad there) in my dental school class and she was in my group for Anatomy Lab and she definitely doesn't fit the "in Your Face" competitive type you speak of, in fact she sends out notes to other students, decorates sim lab for the holiday - although she was just copying me - and is really NOT competitive. But, there are jerks in every school...and one person's jerk is another person's best friend.

 

[armorshell]

1. You are very naive.

2. "New Yorker student are the in your face type of students." is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I went to college in New York City and I can tell you that this is not how students are in New York. I'm not even sure you could lump all of the students in New York City into one category.

3. NYUCD does not cut students--students simply fail out (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was told at my interview and by a close friend who is a D3 there).

1. Sure, why not?

2. "Fougeddabout it, let's go get some caw-fee!"

3. Yeah, NYU purposefully throws away some 3-4 million in fees and tuition just on a whimsy. If students fail out of a private school, you KNOW there was nothing the school could do to keep them there. Good post again Columbia.

 

[tamkhan]

If students fail out of a private school, you KNOW there was nothing the school could do to keep them there.

second that!

 

[Jem27]

2. "Fougeddabout it, let's go get some caw-fee!"

That's much more Brooklyn than it is NYC and with that... brooklyn in the hizzy 😛

Having grown up in NYC, I can tell you a lot of people who go to schools like NYU aren't actually from NY. That's probably why you have exceptions since most true NYers have one philosophy on altruism and that's to not get involved. In fact, that's the philosophy on almost every arena of life.

I don't want to lump all NYers in the same category either since I've fought tooth and nail to maintain my faith in people and be a deep flowing river of love 😀. Seriously, living in NY and going to a dental school that puts you a million dollars in debt, that's not easy stress to handle. That and the patient pool you'll be dealing with. Trust me when I say, you will become hard. 🙁 Now if you're from NY, that's a different story.

edit: OP, you seem pretty set on this decision. Reading your posts, it doesn't seem you're concerned about the stuff outside of school. ... but I'm re-reading and it seems you're from NYC. In that case, money would be the only issue. You know all about the people.

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

1. You are very naive.

Um yeah, sure. I've been to New York City before and the lifestyle there is very fast paced and "some" (not all) locals from the NYC can be the "mister hardball" type of people. I even had a dentist I was shadowing two years ago, who went to SUNY Buffalo, tell me that NYU has a lot of "big boy" New Yorkers who like to play hard ball. That's all I've heard.

2. "New Yorker student are the in your face type of students." is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I went to college in New York City and I can tell you that this is not how students are in New York. I'm not even sure you could lump all of the students in New York City into one category.

Of course you're going to say that because you're from New York City, and you don't like to hear this kind of information. Okay, pardon me, but I meant to say a good handful of New Yorkers can be hard-ballers. NYC is all about competition and who can make it to the top. Just watch Donald Trump's Apprentice show and it shows you some of the aspects of living in NYC.

3. NYUCD does not cut students--students simply fail out (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I was told at my interview and by a close friend who is a D3 there).

Yeah 🙄 sure. I know two people, excluding my friend, who went to NYUCD for dental school. They cut around 10-15 students per year.

But, at the same time, one of my friends told me that those students who get cut from dental school are students who shouldn't even be in dental school in the first place. I don't know why NYUCD accepts a lot of applicants, only to turn away those who can't cut the cake. They do have real money to pay back, even if they didn't finish their dental program. 👎

 

[Columbia07]

Um yeah, sure. I've been to New York City before and the lifestyle there is very fast paced and "some" (not all) locals from the NYC can be the "mister hardball" type of people. I even had a dentist I was shadowing two years ago, who went to SUNY Buffalo, tell me that NYU has a lot of "big boy" New Yorkers who like to play hard ball. That's all I've heard.



Of course you're going to say that because you're from New York City, and you don't like to hear this kind of information. Okay, pardon me, but I meant to say a good handful of New Yorkers can be hard-ballers. NYC is all about competition and who can make it to the top. Just watch Donald Trump's Apprentice show and it shows you some of the aspects of living in NYC.





Yeah 🙄 sure. I know two people, excluding my friend, who went to NYUCD for dental school. They cut around 10-15 students per year.

But, at the same time, one of my friends told me that those students who get cut from dental school are students who shouldn't even be in dental school in the first place. I don't know why NYUCD accepts a lot of applicants, only to turn away those who can't cut the cake. They do have real money to pay back, even if they didn't finish their dental program. 👎

1. Do you take the time to actually pay attention to the nonsense you post?

2. Watching Donald Trump's show and having visited NYC once or a few times is not enough to evaluate the millions of individuals that live on the island and the thousands that go to school there. You have all walks of life in NYC.

3. Again, the worst thing you can do for yourself is spread rumors about a school you know nothing about.

4. Honestly, do yourself and the rest of us a favor, post information that is actually informative.

 

[driLLweLL]

Um yeah, sure. I've been to New York City before and the lifestyle there is very fast paced and "some" (not all) locals from the NYC can be the "mister hardball" type of people. I even had a dentist I was shadowing two years ago, who went to SUNY Buffalo, tell me that NYU has a lot of "big boy" New Yorkers who like to play hard ball. That's all I've heard.



Of course you're going to say that because you're from New York City, and you don't like to hear this kind of information. Okay, pardon me, but I meant to say a good handful of New Yorkers can be hard-ballers. NYC is all about competition and who can make it to the top. Just watch Donald Trump's Apprentice show and it shows you some of the aspects of living in NYC.





Yeah 🙄 sure. I know two people, excluding my friend, who went to NYUCD for dental school. They cut around 10-15 students per year.

But, at the same time, one of my friends told me that those students who get cut from dental school are students who shouldn't even be in dental school in the first place. I don't know why NYUCD accepts a lot of applicants, only to turn away those who can't cut the cake. They do have real money to pay back, even if they didn't finish their dental program. 👎

this guy's an idiot. what more can i say? 😀

as for the depressed-nyu-d1/2?... i use to feel the same way about wanting to transfer out of nyu (the school currently attending)_... but i think youll appreciate it more in your clinical years when your actually seeing patients and realize the opportunities nyu offers that other schools.. that even schools w/in the same city (ie columbia 😀) cant offer to their students. so hang in there. i mean i still hate the school in general .. but u'll gain some appreciation .😀

 

[Jem27]

Um yeah, sure. I've been to New York City before and the lifestyle there is very fast paced and "some" (not all) locals from the NYC can be the "mister hardball" type of people. I even had a dentist I was shadowing two years ago, who went to SUNY Buffalo, tell me that NYU has a lot of "big boy" New Yorkers who like to play hard ball. That's all I've heard.



Of course you're going to say that because you're from New York City, and you don't like to hear this kind of information. Okay, pardon me, but I meant to say a good handful of New Yorkers can be hard-ballers. NYC is all about competition and who can make it to the top. Just watch Donald Trump's Apprentice show and it shows you some of the aspects of living in NYC.

yeah, not for nothing but this isn't very good information. The apprentice or any television show is the last place you want to base your opinion on for anything at all.

And, it's not that NYers are in your face, we play hardball on everything. We have those too. It's not that. It's that people from other places, nicer places where people care about each other, come to NY and experience culture shock. Most ppl in NY mind their own business and that's it. They don't care to extend themselves (which I think is true for places outside of NY) but NYers have no qualms expressing that lack of interest. For that reason, you'll be hard bent to find the kind of camaraderie you would elsewhere. I'm sure even Stony Brook in Looooong Island has kids with the same mentality - everyone does their own thing. Now, this is not without exception but I've found this generally to be true.

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

this guy's an idiot. what more can i say? 😀

No no no. I think you're talking about yourself.

Truth hurts about NYUCD. No need to refer to name-calling when you know you have to be so defensive about your school.

 

[NerdyHoosierDDS]

1. Do you take the time to actually pay attention to the nonsense you post?

2. Watching Donald Trump's show and having visited NYC once or a few times is not enough to evaluate the millions of individuals that live on the island and the thousands that go to school there. You have all walks of life in NYC.

3. Again, the worst thing you can do for yourself is spread rumors about a school you know nothing about.

4. Honestly, do yourself and the rest of us a favor, post information that is actually informative.

columbia07 == typical defensive guy living in SoCal.

 

[armorshell]

columbia07 == typical defensive guy living in SoCal.

Ooh, ooh, do me!

 

[Mackchops]

columbia07 == typical defensive guy living in SoCal.

When everyone else is wrong and you're the only one who's right... well... maybe you're not right?? Maybe?

 

[Yellow Snow]

When everyone else is wrong and you're the only one who's right... well... maybe you're not right?? Maybe?

Are you saying the guy who thinks people in NYC are like contestants on apprentice is correct?

 

[airwolfrocks999]

this guy's an idiot. what more can i say? 😀

as for the depressed-nyu-d1/2?... i use to feel the same way about wanting to transfer out of nyu (the school currently attending)_... but i think youll appreciate it more in your clinical years when your actually seeing patients and realize the opportunities nyu offers that other schools.. that even schools w/in the same city (ie columbia 😀) cant offer to their students. so hang in there. i mean i still hate the school in general .. but u'll gain some appreciation .😀

My DDS degree is from NYU. I won't put down the school because it did train me to become a dentist alright. I'm not going to talk about the large class size and poor faculy rapport with students, as these have been mentioned to death.

But what really makes up a school is the quality of your classmates.

The students there don't like to speak English, have poor writing skills, are generally immature and have attitude problems, and come to NYU Dental with weak undergrad gpas.

Not that this will matter in the long run but I feel embarrassed on having done poorly in undergrad to ultimately end up with this caliber of people.

<sigh>.....if only.......

 

[airwolfrocks999]

3. Yeah, NYU purposefully throws away some 3-4 million in fees and tuition just on a whimsy. If students fail out of a private school, you KNOW there was nothing the school could do to keep them there. Good post again Columbia.

For my graduating class, we still managed to crank out at least 350 new DDS degrees. They all passed their National Boards and the NERBs, albeit the people who needed to retake them a few times.

The graduates include myself, who is average in academics. But the graduates even more include pot-sniffers, non-English speakers, the chronically lazy, and people whose IQ and motivation are nondistinguishable even from the school's patient population.

Not to mention that I worked part-time on most weekdays and almost all weekends and I never failed a class.

The ones that fail out of NYU are either really dumb, have unacceptable handskills, or are completely negligent. Really, you don't want NYU graduating these type of people. Even NYU's current grads are generally average at best.

 

[btizzels]

columbia07 == typical defensive guy living in SoCal.


Um really??..... I thought we Californians (especially SoCal) had the reputation of being laid back surfers..... again can we please stay away from the broad stereotypes