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[MissMedicine]

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Now this website is terribly racially biased but I do find some of their statistics interesting, especially the number of acceptances that it generally takes to fill a class.

Have these stats been verified??? This looks like someone's personal homepage.

http://www.sandiego.edu/~e_cook

 

[exigente chica]

It does look like a student made website..I'm not sure if they would allow that on the offical one. Very race based..and biased

 

[souljah1]

I think that the number of acceptances that they showis pretty accurate. I know that UCSF hands out about 190 or so out right acceptances, and then pulls anywhere from 20 - 30 off their alternate list (got this info from the office of admissions when I continually pestered them). They said that usually about 75 people who were given outright acceptances do not attend.

As far as that website goes, I remember searching for admissions data and coming accross those websites. I don't think they are all that far from the truth, especially the percentages of the applicant pool and the percentage of the matriculating student body. The acceptance rate for URMs is higher than any other 'group'. As far as the GPA and MCAT are concerned, I'm not too sure how reliable that info is.

 

[md_student2b]

I visited that site some time ago, and compared some of the stats with the available stats from UCSC regarding our graduates success at getting into med school. The numbers jived more or less but I'm not too sure about the slant this page has. The calculator function to estimate ones chances seemd pretty fishy.

 

[Ryo-Ohki]

How is this site "terribly racially biased"?

 

[MissMedicine]

Originally posted by Ryo-Ohki
How is this site "terribly racially biased"?

I hate to point to you the obvious but this site is obviously doing more than just relaying information. There is an agenda, as is evident by the homepage.

 

[Ronny]

The site is not racially biased. It gives accurate admissions statistics based on race and other stats. What it does is point out the racial discriminition against whites and asians at the so called 'affirmative action' schools.

On the homepage it says: "We believe there is a place for social disadvantage in admission policy, but that race is a poor marker for it."

I strongly agree with that statement. Simply because of my skin color, I'de have a lower chance of being admited to certain universities. This is wrong.

 

[Ryo-Ohki]

Agenda = Racist?


One of the main purposes of the website is to dispel the myth that persons admitted under AA are equal or are anywhere near in GPA/Standardized tests then those not admitted under AA. Is that racist?

If you question the data, then verify it. If you question the intent of the website, scrutinize the data (if you noticed, the guy sometimes reports science gpa instead of overall gpa) and draw your conclusions. Don't write it off as "racist" and give your mind an excuse to ignore the data. Search for the truth.

 

[kittyjuice]

it all comes down to politics and keeping people happy. the government could care less if competitive applicants were rejected from med school, so as long there are enough (according to them) qualified physicians practicing in the states.

 

[MissMedicine]

*sigh*

Originally posted by Ryo-Ohki
Agenda = Racist?


One of the main purposes of the website is to dispel the myth that persons admitted under AA are equal or are anywhere near in GPA/Standardized tests then those not admitted under AA. Is that racist?

If you question the data, then verify it. If you question the intent of the website, scrutinize the data (if you noticed, the guy sometimes reports science gpa instead of overall gpa) and draw your conclusions. Don't write it off as "racist" and give your mind an excuse to ignore the data. Search for the truth.

 

[Neuronix]

AMCAS used to put info on their website two years ago that clearly showed the average applicant and average accepted MCAT scores based on gender and race. It clearly showed that women got in with lower average accepted scores (but just barely lower) and that certain minorities got in with lower (alot more than barely) average accepted scores.

I cannot find those stats anymore on the AMCAS website. If anyone knows where to find them, feel free to PM me. I have a feeling they were removed for obvious reasons.

Lemme just say in the end that I have no agenda either way; I just found the stats interesting, and then that they're no longer there is even more interesting.

 

[Ryo-Ohki]

http://www.aamc.org/students/mcat/examineedata/pubs.htm

AAMC has them

 

[Neuronix]

Those stats are good because they clearly show differences in average MCAT score by race and gender, but they do not say the average applying and average accepted MCAT scores and GPAs by race and gender like the old data I'm referring to.