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[ems5184]

Anyone thinking of withdrawing from UConn because of that horrible loss? Or just in general?

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[HulkHogan]

umich = NIT powerhouse

 

[lilCarlton]

I can't believe they didn't win in OT after tying in at the end of regulation. In related news, nah, I'm still going to UConn. Sorry man.

 

[groundhog]

I wonder how many hot basketball prospects turn down full rides at UCONN each year if the UCONN dental students don't finish #1 on the NDBE's

 

[ems5184]

Haha I bet there may be some...I mean what NCAA basketball player doesn't care about how their fellow dental students perform?

 

[DrJeff]

I hasten a guess that the only way the the UCONN hoops players might even know that there is a UCONN Dental school, (since the dental school, located in Farmington, is about 30 miles from the main UCONN campus, located in Storrs), is that the entire cardiology center at The UCONN Health Center is named after Coach Calhoun and every fall he drags a few members of the hoops team over to the Health Center for a charity fund raiser. Other than that, one of the biggies (i.e. Rudy Gay, Marcus Williams, Josh Boone), might actually drive by the Health Center/Dental on their way to ESPN world headquarters which is located in Bristol which is 2 towns away(less than 10 miles) from the Healthcenter.

Basically though as a Connecticut resident now for almost 13 years, during which the rise of both the UCONN mens and womens hoops teams has occurred, college basketball in this state is less of a game and more of a religion, and between what happend to the mens team on Sunday and now the womens team tonight, many in the general population of the state of Connecticut have a slightly flattened affect that will linger around for a few days I will admit to being part of the UCONN hoops craze and feel fortunate that my office has season tickets for the mens hoops team. But I will say that when UCONN lost Sunday, my brackets in the NCAA tourney took a big hit (then again Texas and Villanova loosing didn't help me either ), but atleast with UCLA I did manage to get 1 final 4 team in my bracket this year

 

[CatsMeow]

Anyone thinking of withdrawing from UConn because of that horrible loss? Or just in general?

evryday i wanna get outa here (uconn)...not cuz the hoops, but cuz the sodomy!!

 

[HardWay]

evryday i wanna get outa here (uconn)...not cuz the hoops, but cuz the sodomy!!

Sodomy doesn't begin to describe the once over this administration dishes out. Daily enemas, emotional rape, and prison sex probably are much better than having cancer regardless of what MsPurtell writes.

 

[DrJeff]

Sodomy doesn't begin to describe the once over this administration dishes out. Daily enemas, emotional rape, and prison sex probably are much better than having cancer regardless of what MsPurtell writes.

I hate to sound like an old patriarchial figure on this one, but I know from having extensive conversation with one of your patient chart quality control faculty, Dr P, who was a year ahead of my class, that the environment and the requirements that your class has is a much kinder and friendlier UCONN than it was a decade ago when I was "putting on the vaseline" myself, and in conversations with my partner, who was UCONN class of 1989, that the environment that I went through was much friendlier than what he went through.

I'd be willing a bet a few cold and frosty beverages that your view of UCONN 2 or 3 years post graduation will be way, way different than it is a year or 2 pre graduation. Believe me, the pasture is very green for you after graduation.

 

[HardWay]

I hate to sound like an old patriarchial figure on this one, but I know from having extensive conversation with one of your patient chart quality control faculty, Dr P, who was a year ahead of my class, that the environment and the requirements that your class has is a much kinder and friendlier UCONN than it was a decade ago when I was "putting on the vaseline" myself, and in conversations with my partner, who was UCONN class of 1989, that the environment that I went through was much friendlier than what he went through.

I'd be willing a bet a few cold and frosty beverages that your view of UCONN 2 or 3 years post graduation will be way, way different than it is a year or 2 pre graduation. Believe me, the pasture is very green for you after graduation.

My problem with this school isn't with the requirements and curriculum, it is with the emotional abuse that this school administers.

 

[CatsMeow]

I hate to sound like an old patriarchial figure on this one, but I know from having extensive conversation with one of your patient chart quality control faculty, Dr P, who was a year ahead of my class, that the environment and the requirements that your class has is a much kinder and friendlier UCONN than it was a decade ago when I was "putting on the vaseline" myself, and in conversations with my partner, who was UCONN class of 1989, that the environment that I went through was much friendlier than what he went through.

I'd be willing a bet a few cold and frosty beverages that your view of UCONN 2 or 3 years post graduation will be way, way different than it is a year or 2 pre graduation. Believe me, the pasture is very green for you after graduation.

i wish we had the serious req's u guys had back then----then we would be ready for private practice instead of being stuck going to an AEGD for more practice---but my problem w/uconn SanDM isn't with req's---it's with the sodomy---the taking it thru the backdoor

granted, some ppl think of it more as rape----either way u cut it, rape or sodomy, it's all disgusting

 

[AUG2UAG]

hello @$$

has it ever occured to you that you enjoy taking it through the backdoor?

 

[HardWay]

hello @$$

has it ever occured to you that you enjoy taking it through the backdoor?

To AUG2UAG: I think you need a time-out to reflect on your recent post. First, name-calling (especially when it involves vulgarity) is unacceptable. Second, the last part of that post went way too far and I am offended for Cat's Meow.

To other readers: Please do not think that AUG2UAG's behavior is reflective of the entire school.

To the moderators: Do you need to have a talk with AUG2UAG?

 

[AUG2UAG]

ok dr ____

keep on complaining
i'm sorry that a lowly student has a right to display an opinion
that of distraught over how ungrateful people are
you must come from a background where you knew up from down
however, for people like me
who dealt with little and asked for less
your accomplishment is the hallmark we're trying to achieve
not resent

 

[HardWay]

ok dr ____

keep on complaining
i'm sorry that a lowly student has a right to display an opinion
that of distraught over how ungrateful people are
you must come from a background where you knew up from down
however, for people like me
who dealt with little and asked for less
your accomplishment is the hallmark we're trying to achieve
not resent

Did you ever hear that cliche about agreeing to disagree? That basically means that it's okay to voice your opinion (which is what this forum is for), but you must do so in a manner that is respectful of the people to which you are addressing the disagreement. Please understand that I do not mean to comment on your posts to aggrevate you, but to help you learn how to more appropriately express your opinion. We (including myself) all make the mistake of displaying our opinions in unsavory manners at times (after all, strong language makes an impact), but we (including myself) should all strive for better than that. For example, I probably should've just stated that I believe UConn is emotionally abusive, but I should've refrained from likening it to sodomy. I hope that AUG2UAG can better express himself in the future.

 

[captaintripps]

Did you ever hear that cliche about agreeing to disagree? That basically means that it's okay to voice your opinion (which is what this forum is for), but you must do so in a manner that is respectful of the people to which you are addressing the disagreement. Please understand that I do not mean to comment on your posts to aggravate you, but to help you learn how to more appropriately express your opinion. We (including myself) all make the mistake of displaying our opinions in unsavory manners at times (after all, strong language makes an impact), but we (including myself) should all strive for better than that. For example, I probably should've just stated that I believe UConn is emotionally abusive, but I should've refrained to likening it to sodomy. I hope that AUG2UAG can better express himself in the future.

Emotionally abusive? could you provide example/scenario of this?

 

[scarred4life]

A closer look: There is something terribly wrong when uconn students are fearful of posting opinions because they are scared of Mr. T monitoring the site (BTW, he's a good guy and isn't joking when he says it's a demanding program).


1. Crummy location: Gloomy Hartford, what fun…cool clubs across the street from a greyhound bus station…..oh wait, it’s in the suburbs, so ok, they have some really great strip malls with starbucks, subway and barnes and noble, and a steakhouse with big SUV’s parked out in front. If you can have fun at that bar across the street from the school for 4 years you’re a masochist.

2. Crummy patient pool: There are people who 2 months before graduation have only done 5 crowns. You will do 0 onlays/inlays. For some reason students have trouble fulfilling minimal graduation requirements.

3. Abrasive administration: Notoriously abrasive and constantly and continuously threaten many students. Some students even get sent to compulsory psychiatry visits. I said compulsory…if you don’t go the other option is to drop out. This is probably counter productive at the very least and possibly illegal in many instances. I’m not legal expert, but this could be beyond their jurisdiction in many instances. It's probably there way of F***ing with you.

4. Disgruntled students: The school has a preponderance of very unhappy and utterly miserable students. All schools have some, but not to the degree that uconn does.

5. Lots drop out or repeat: With a class size of only around 40, there seem to be a high number of students that repeat the year or drop out. This is especially alarming in the clinical years.

6. Draconian vibe: For many the nightmares may go away, but for others some scars never heal. It’s a question of whether or not you want to risk having a compromised soul. Money can’t buy a soul.

7. Poor clinical skills: Majority of people who want to do general end up doing GPR/AEGD first because most are not prepared to go directly into private practice.

8. The good things would be the high board scores on part 1 and a solid basic science background. The opportunity to do research and maybe make some money out of it. I think they have quite a few students that also get PhD's or MPH's.

9. Good faculty/student ratio.

10. An above average match/post doc placement (this is mainly AEGD/GPR, not specialties), but overall I think they do above average.

11. Strong oral medicine/perio: You'll get a very good education in these departments, but the restorative/prosthodontics side is kinda weak. They basically have 1 solid faculty member in restorative that keeps the rest. program going. Surgery/endo are ok. Students are not taught to cast any of their work, don't learn to stack porcelain, don't learn border molding, and take final denture impressions in alginate. Like all schools it has some strong/weak departments.

12. Bottomline: It's a nightmare and you'll probably be a good dentist down the road having attended this institution. Having said that lots of other programs will be just as good, with less abuse and that cost the same. It's a question of how much you'd want to risk damaging your 21 grams.

 

[HardWay]

Emotionally abusive? could you provide example/scenario of this?

I cannot give an example of this for fear of being identified. But don't worry lab rat, because you are a combined DMD/PhD student, you will not receive the same abuse. They tend to respect you PhD'ers. Just understand that my statements have nothing to do with the didactic curriculum, but with the immoral behavior of certain faculty and the administration that allows them to continue in this manner.

 

[HardWay]

A closer look: There is something terribly wrong when uconn students are fearful of posting opinions because they are scared of Mr. T monitoring the site (BTW, he's a good guy and isn't joking when he says it's a demanding program).


1. Crummy location: Gloomy Hartford, what fun…cool clubs across the street from a greyhound bus station…..oh wait, it’s in the suburbs, so ok, they have some really great strip malls with starbucks, subway and barnes and noble, and a steakhouse with big SUV’s parked out in front. If you can have fun at that bar across the street from the school for 4 years you’re a masochist.

2. Crummy patient pool: There are people who 2 months before graduation have only done 5 crowns. You will do 0 onlays/inlays. For some reason students have trouble fulfilling minimal graduation requirements.

3. Abrasive administration: Notoriously abrasive and constantly and continuously threaten many students. Some students even get sent to compulsory psychiatry visits. I said compulsory…if you don’t go the other option is to drop out. This is probably counter productive at the very least and possibly illegal in many instances. I’m not legal expert, but this could be beyond their jurisdiction in many instances. It's probably there way of F***ing with you.

4. Disgruntled students: The school has a preponderance of very unhappy and utterly miserable students. All schools have some, but not to the degree that uconn does.

5. Lots drop out or repeat: With a class size of only around 40, there seem to be a high number of students that repeat the year or drop out. This is especially alarming in the clinical years.

6. Draconian vibe: For many the nightmares may go away, but for others some scars never heal. It’s a question of whether or not you want to risk having a compromised soul. Money can’t buy a soul.

7. Poor clinical skills: Majority of people who want to do general end up doing GPR/AEGD first because most are not prepared to go directly into private practice.

8. The good things would be the high board scores on part 1 and a solid basic science background. The opportunity to do research and maybe make some money out of it. I think they have quite a few students that also get PhD's or MPH's.

9. Good faculty/student ratio.

10. An above average match/post doc placement (this is mainly AEGD/GPR, not specialties), but overall I think they do above average.

11. Strong oral medicine/perio: You'll get a very good education in these departments, but the restorative/prosthodontics side is kinda weak. They basically have 1 solid faculty member in restorative that keeps the rest. program going. Surgery/endo are ok. Students are not taught to cast any of their work, don't learn to stack porcelain, don't learn border molding, and take final denture impressions in alginate. Like all schools it has some strong/weak departments.

12. Bottomline: It's a nightmare and you'll probably be a good dentist down the road having attended this institution. Having said that lots of other programs will be just as good, with less abuse and that cost the same. It's a question of how much you'd want to risk damaging your 21 grams.

Scarred for life, emotional bankruptcy, emotional abuse, PTSD.....all accurate!

 

[DrJeff]

Scarred for life, emotional bankruptcy, emotional abuse, PTSD.....all accurate!

Boy, I really hope that your in my CTID group this year so i can help talk you off the bridge it seems like you're ready to jump from.

 

[captaintripps]

I cannot give an example of this for fear of being identified. But don't worry lab rat, because you are a combined DMD/PhD student, you will not receive the same abuse. They tend to respect you PhD'ers. Just understand that my statements have nothing to do with the didactic curriculum, but with the immoral behavior of certain faculty and the administration that allows them to continue in this manner.

Don't call me a lab rat. I dont know you.

 

[CatsMeow]

Boy, I really hope that your in my CTID group this year so i can help talk you off the bridge it seems like you're ready to jump from.

git ready 4 lots of work cuz ur gonna hafta talk lots of us down

 

[HardWay]

Don't call me a lab rat. I dont know you.

Ah, yes! But I know you.

Don't ask around b/c I will never admit to even knowing of this site. After all, BB (big brother) is watching.

 

[captaintripps]

Ah, yes! But I know you.

Don't ask around b/c I will never admit to even knowing of this site. After all, BB (big brother) is watching.

Sure, if you know me then you realize that I don't give a **** about bigbrother watching.

 

[HardWay]

Sure, if you know me then you realize that I don't give a **** about bigbrother watching.

You don't give a **** because you are a PhD'er.

I give a ****!

 

[Squared]

Scarred for life, emotional bankruptcy, emotional abuse, PTSD.....all accurate!

Add "professionally harrassed" and "psychologically tortured" to that list.

However, don't despair...years of Paxil and therapy (from Dr. Jim Bean, no doubt) can help numb the pain.

Boy, I really hope that your in my CTID group this year so i can help talk you off the bridge it seems like you're ready to jump from.

As a somewhat recent (I won't say how recent) graduate from UConn, I can vouch for the fact that HardWay probably won't have to jump...the bridge is so bogged down by psychologically abused students that it will no doubt give way anytime soon.

Further, to all students who are currently there or have graduated, don't let that administration get the best of you...get help and then try to find ways to make a difference. I myself have decided to get involved in legislation governing higher education and student rights. Granted, nothing has come of my efforts yet, but it is therapy in and of itself. Some of us are thinking of petitioning ADEA to come up with a code of conduct for educators the way the ADA has a code of conduct for practicioners.

granted, some ppl think of it more as rape----either way u cut it, rape or sodomy, it's all disgusting

Add "being pimped and forced to turn tricks" to that list...

I was sexually assaulted at one point in my life, and all I can say was that it was no where near as traumatizing as going to this school. After being sexually assaulted (unlike after being psychologically abused),
a. I was at least afforded very clear legal measures,
b. I didn't have to re-live the nightmare day after day (except in my dreams),
c. society was willing to acknowledge I was wronged and offered condolences on behalf of my assaulter, and
d. I didn't have to face my victimizer day after day and pretend I liked them.

3. Abrasive administration: Notoriously abrasive and constantly and continuously threaten many students. Some students even get sent to compulsory psychiatry visits. I said compulsory…if you don’t go the other option is to drop out. This is probably counter productive at the very least and possibly illegal in many instances. I’m not legal expert, but this could be beyond their jurisdiction in many instances. It's probably there way of F***ing with you.

4. Disgruntled students: The school has a preponderance of very unhappy and utterly miserable students. All schools have some, but not to the degree that uconn does.

5. Lots drop out or repeat: With a class size of only around 40, there seem to be a high number of students that repeat the year or drop out. This is especially alarming in the clinical years.

6. Draconian vibe: For many the nightmares may go away, but for others some scars never heal. It’s a question of whether or not you want to risk having a compromised soul. Money can’t buy a soul.

...

12. Bottomline: It's a nightmare and you'll probably be a good dentist down the road having attended this institution. Having said that lots of other programs will be just as good, with less abuse and that cost the same. It's a question of how much you'd want to risk damaging your 21 grams.

All accurate statements. (or is it )

 

[HulkHogan]

So how do DMD/PhDer's have an easier time at UConn? I am curious....

 

[captaintripps]

So how do DMD/PhDer's have an easier time at UConn? I am curious....

They don't, despite the ridiculous comments on this thread.

 

[HardWay]

So how do DMD/PhDer's have an easier time at UConn? I am curious....

I agree with square, DMD/PhD's have an easier time. Don't mistaken an easier time for an easy time. At times, they get crap, but not as much as other students. They get invited to join committees that matter, they get special preference in our post-doc programs, and people generally respect them for what they have done for the school. Don't get me wrong...I actually think they deserve the better treatment for their committment to the school. I'm not against slightly better treatment for DMD/PhD's; I'm against mistreatment of people.

 

[groundhog]

Add "professionally harrassed" and "psychologically tortured" to that list.

However, don't despair...years of Paxil and therapy (from Dr. Jim Bean, no doubt) can help numb the pain.






As a somewhat recent (I won't say how recent) graduate from UConn, I can vouch for the fact that HardWay probably won't have to jump...the bridge is so bogged down by psychologically abused students that it will no doubt give way anytime soon.

Further, to all students who are currently there or have graduated, don't let that administration get the best of you...get help and then try to find ways to make a difference. I myself have decided to get involved in legislation governing higher education and student rights. Granted, nothing has come of my efforts yet, but it is therapy in and of itself. Some of us are thinking of petitioning ADEA to come up with a code of conduct for educators the way the ADA has a code of conduct for practicioners.






Add "being pimped and forced to turn tricks" to that list...

I was sexually assaulted at one point in my life, and all I can say was that it was no where near as traumatizing as going to this school. After being sexually assaulted (unlike after being psychologically abused),
a. I was at least afforded very clear legal measures,
b. I didn't have to re-live the nightmare day after day (except in my dreams),
c. society was willing to acknowledge I was wronged and offered condolences on behalf of my assaulter, and
d. I didn't have to face my victimizer day after day and pretend I liked them.






All accurate statements. (or is it )

I'll be the first to admit that positive reinforcement and encouragement are the best ways to educate people. But I also find folks to be a bit lame when they claim to be emotional basket cases because they are in a "pain trains" educational environment. Don't forget that all physicians and dentists got trained the old fashion down and dirty way not too many years ago, but they managed to survive. For example, I've heard stories about influential dental school professors in the past who immediatley sized up D1's with intentions to quickly force out the ones that they felt did not have the stuff to become successful clinicians. Now that was "tough love."

 

[Squared]

I'll be the first to admit that positive reinforcement and encouragement are the best ways to educate people. But I also find folks to be a bit lame when they claim to be emotional basket cases because they are in a "pain trains" educational environment. Don't forget that all physicians and dentists got trained the old fashion down and dirty way not too many years ago, but they managed to survive. For example, I've heard stories about influential dental school professors in the past who immediatley sized up D1's with intentions to quickly force out the ones that they felt did not have the stuff to become successful clinicians. Now that was "tough love."

I've heard stories like that too. However, whatever injustices happened in the past do not suddenly make today's lesser injustices acceptable. Otherwise, what you are saying is something like "I was raped (and I didn't become an emotional basket case) so you deserve to be molested (and you shouldn't become an emotional basket case from that)." Doesn't make sense does it? They are both injustices and they both cause serious emotional harm to the victim.

Second, I don't think you have a right to state that we are lame unless you are a current student or recent graduate who is/was not a DMD/PhDer. As you can see, several SDNer's who are current students or recent graduates seem to be reporting the same thing about this place. This isn't one random disgruntled student. (Search posts for "UConn" and you will find even more horror stories.) (Also, have you read your signature lately..."even dogs take care of their pups.")

Third, I seriously doubt that a so-called "pain trains" environment can be seen as "tough love." Tough love does not call for abuse. For example, if they wanted you to learn how to prep teeth for crowns very quickly, tough love would mean telling you to spend all weekend in the lab doing nothing but preping teeth. Tough love does not mean raping a student in an attempt to get them to prep teeth faster. That's like saying "There! I raped you, so maybe now you will get faster at preping teeth." Doesn't make sense, does it?

Fourth, I can assure there is no "love" about this program.

 

[Hopin']

This thread has been going on for a while.
I was wondering why UConn is the most talked about school in the whole country. There are like 3 threads going around on this school.....

 

[CatsMeow]

This thread has been going on for a while.
I was wondering why UConn is the most talked about school in the whole country. There are like 3 threads going around on this school.....

it's cuz this is the bestest most lovedest ds ever!!!

 

[MsPurtell]

Dr. Jeff,

Please do help them off that bridge. I'm deadly serious. Half of my class was on effexor and visiting the school shrink regularly. When I tell you I very nearly had a nervous breakdown at that school, I'm not kidding. I needed someone to help me.

I'm in a GPR now and it's wonderful.

I think it's time for me to get a new username so I can say a bit more.

Boy, I really hope that your in my CTID group this year so i can help talk you off the bridge it seems like you're ready to jump from.

 

[MsPurtell]

Captian Tripps,

I know you a bit and you are a good guy. I'm pulling for you once you get to clinic. You're gonna f'in hate it.

They don't, despite the ridiculous comments on this thread.

 

[MsPurtell]

Squared....

The experience moved me to get involved in student rights as well. At least some use will come of this experience. Particularly, I've been moved to get involved in the rights of those who are trying to gain an education but who might be struggling with some emotional issues (depression, PTSD, anxiety). There is room for these people in many professions and I typically find them to be compassionate individuals.

Add "professionally harrassed" and "psychologically tortured" to that list.

However, don't despair...years of Paxil and therapy (from Dr. Jim Bean, no doubt) can help numb the pain.






As a somewhat recent (I won't say how recent) graduate from UConn, I can vouch for the fact that HardWay probably won't have to jump...the bridge is so bogged down by psychologically abused students that it will no doubt give way anytime soon.

Further, to all students who are currently there or have graduated, don't let that administration get the best of you...get help and then try to find ways to make a difference. I myself have decided to get involved in legislation governing higher education and student rights. Granted, nothing has come of my efforts yet, but it is therapy in and of itself. Some of us are thinking of petitioning ADEA to come up with a code of conduct for educators the way the ADA has a code of conduct for practicioners.






Add "being pimped and forced to turn tricks" to that list...

I was sexually assaulted at one point in my life, and all I can say was that it was no where near as traumatizing as going to this school. After being sexually assaulted (unlike after being psychologically abused),
a. I was at least afforded very clear legal measures,
b. I didn't have to re-live the nightmare day after day (except in my dreams),
c. society was willing to acknowledge I was wronged and offered condolences on behalf of my assaulter, and
d. I didn't have to face my victimizer day after day and pretend I liked them.






All accurate statements. (or is it )

 

[iamhuman]

you don't know what the f you are talking about groundhog. You have never even been to dental school.

I'll be the first to admit that positive reinforcement and encouragement are the best ways to educate people. But I also find folks to be a bit lame when they claim to be emotional basket cases because they are in a "pain trains" educational environment. Don't forget that all physicians and dentists got trained the old fashion down and dirty way not too many years ago, but they managed to survive. For example, I've heard stories about influential dental school professors in the past who immediatley sized up D1's with intentions to quickly force out the ones that they felt did not have the stuff to become successful clinicians. Now that was "tough love."

 

[Me4]

I'll be the first to admit that positive reinforcement and encouragement are the best ways to educate people. But I also find folks to be a bit lame when they claim to be emotional basket cases because they are in a "pain trains" educational environment. Don't forget that all physicians and dentists got trained the old fashion down and dirty way not too many years ago, but they managed to survive. For example, I've heard stories about influential dental school professors in the past who immediatley sized up D1's with intentions to quickly force out the ones that they felt did not have the stuff to become successful clinicians. Now that was "tough love."

I graduated from UConn DS and then went on to a residency. I recently was hired as junior faculty at my current school. I have to say that I have vowed to never do to others what was done to me and my classmates. I believe there is nothing loving about deciding very early on who will and who won't be a good clinician.

 

[captaintripps]

Captian Tripps,

I know you a bit and you are a good guy. I'm pulling for you once you get to clinic. You're gonna f'in hate it.

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm sure it will be difficult and compounded by a bad attitude. If I can deal with the horse**** in the PhD program, I figure to deal with the clinic just the same. Hope your GPR is going well.

 

[HardWay]

Captian Tripps,

I know you a bit and you are a good guy. I'm pulling for you once you get to clinic. You're gonna f'in hate it.

Well, given CaptainTripps last name, he probably won't have the good fortune of dealing with Dr. I. Team B=almost no abuse. Like night and day!

 

[DrJeff]

Dr. Jeff,



I think it's time for me to get a new username so I can say a bit more.

Once you've got that magical piece of paper that hasd your name on it, THEY CAN'T TAKE IT BACK!!!! So say what ever you want, you might actually do some good, since various admins/faculty actually check this site out evry now and then, and may actually construe some of this as constructive criticism

I actually learned about this site(and was ENCOURAGED to check it out by the course director of one one of your classes

 

[HulkHogan]

Wow. The threads about UConn are a little disheartening because I love being a student here so much. While I respect everyone's opinion on the SDM, I have had nothing but a positive experience at UConn thus far. I find the faculty supportive and friendly.

While there are certainly faculty here that might be lacking in some areas, I just take it in stride as par for the course for any dental education in the country.

 

[iamhuman]

they can take your degree back. How do you know they haven't done so?

Once you've got that magical piece of paper that hasd your name on it, THEY CAN'T TAKE IT BACK!!!! So say what ever you want, you might actually do some good, since various admins/faculty actually check this site out evry now and then, and may actually construe some of this as constructive criticism

I actually learned about this site(and was ENCOURAGED to check it out by the course director of one one of your classes

 

[HardWay]

Once you've got that magical piece of paper that hasd your name on it, THEY CAN'T TAKE IT BACK!!!!

They can take it back and they should in some instances (ie finding out you committed academic dishonesty after you've graduated). My problem with them is that they take it back (or refuse to give it to you) just for voicing your opinion about the school.

Though not the same but similar: I know of one student whose degree they refused to grant right before graduation b/c that student stated that certain people at the school are obligated to do certain things. I won't reveal more than that otherwise that person might get very upset with me.

So say what ever you want, you might actually do some good, since various admins/faculty actually check this site out evry now and then, and may actually construe some of this as constructive criticism

Was that an implied threat or were you being honest? If it was an implied threat, you've just proven our point. If you were being honest, I have to say that I am more than willing to sit down with the administration and spill my guts on what embarrasses me about this school. They should make sure they have a couple of hours on their hands. Not only am I willing to talk about it with them, but I will be wholeheatedly happy to do so. If they took this as constructive criticism and actually tried to work on the problems this school's administration has, I would actually start to have a bit of respect for them.

Wow. The threads about UConn are a little disheartening because I love being a student here so much. While I respect everyone's opinion on the SDM, I have had nothing but a positive experience at UConn thus far. I find the faculty supportive and friendly.

While there are certainly faculty here that might be lacking in some areas, I just take it in stride as par for the course for any dental education in the country.

I respect your opinion too. You have a right to it as well as a right to voice it w/o fear of repercussions. There are certainly some wonderful faculty at this school. There are also some faculty that are lacking. My problem isn't with the wonderful faculty or even the less-than-stellar faculty, it is with the abusive faculty and the administration that lets them get away with the abuse.

I would also like to say that I am truly happy that you love being a student here and that you do not have the feelings that the rest of us have. I wouldn't want anyone to go through what we have been through. I don't want people to go through what I went through b/c of the damage it did to me and b/c it will embarrass me to say that I went to a school that did those things. I wish I could say that my experience has been as good as yours.

 

[ItsGavinC]

They can take it back and they should in some instances (ie finding out you committed academic dishonesty after you've graduated).

No they can't. Once the degree is awarded it's awarded, no matter what you do after you've graduated.

 

[groundhog]

you don't know what the f you are talking about groundhog. You have never even been to dental school.

Your comment gives me a good opportunity to address all the other replys to my original post. First, regarding your specific point, dental school is not unique in regard to the issue at hand. One can find themselves subjected to big time harrassment in many training environments (my personal experiences during military basic training some forty years ago comes to mind). Second, as I stated previously, I do not condone such an educational environment and whole heartedly support those who would seek change for the better such as MsPurtell.

My point is that it can be helpful to keep life in perspective when going through tough times. I did not enjoy the mental harrassment dished out in basic training, but I also reminded myself that the generation before me had been subjected to physical as well as mental/emotional abuse in basic training. In fact, abuse in the Japanese military was even worse during that era (circa WWII). Japanese offficers would routinely beat enlisted cadre to unconciousness for making minor mistakes in the performance of their duties.

So, keep striving to make things better. Don't give up and bail out just because life is tough at the moment. Some changes happen slowly. Folks before you had it worse and hopefully you can help make things better for those who come after.

 

[capisce?]

Your comment gives me a good opportunity to address all the other replys to my original post. First, regarding your specific point, dental school is not unique in regard to the issue at hand. One can find themselves subjected to big time harrassment in many training environments (my personal experiences during military basic training some forty years ago comes to mind). Second, as I stated previously, I do not condone such an educational environment and whole heartedly support those who would seek change for the better such as MsPurtell.

My point is that it can be helpful to keep life in perspective when going through tough times. I did not enjoy the mental harrassment dished out in basic training, but I also reminded myself that the generation before me had been subjected to physical as well as mental/emotional abuse in basic training. In fact, abuse in the Japanese military was even worse during that era (circa WWII). Japanese offficers would routinely beat enlisted cadre to unconciousness for making minor mistakes in the performance of their duties.

So, keep striving to make things better. Don't give up and bail out just because life is tough at the moment. Some changes happen slowly. Folks before you had it worse and hopefully you can help make things better for those who come after.

I've seen some losers in my life, but you take the cake. WTF is a non-dentist doing in a dental forum?! I mean, seriously, you must be one mentally inbalanced person to hang out on boards full of people discussing something of which you have all of zero experience. Your analogy to why you think you can compare your situation to ours is ridiculous.

When I'm on call, there are nights I go without much sleep. Should I think I can compare myself to prisoners who are forced to go through sleep withdrawal as punishment because I too have gone without sleep? I mean, really, just do us all a favor and leave.

 

[HardWay]

I've seen some losers in my life, but you take the cake. WTF is a non-dentist doing in a dental forum?! I mean, seriously, you must be one mentally inbalanced person to hang out on boards full of people discussing something of which you have all of zero experience. Your analogy to why you think you can compare your situation to ours is ridiculous.

When I'm on call, there are nights I go without much sleep. Should I think I can compare myself to prisoners who are forced to go through sleep withdrawal as punishment because I too have gone without sleep? I mean, really, just do us all a favor and leave.

While we all get mad at groundhog for saying stuff when he hasn't been to dental school, there is no reason to call him names. Further, if he has something worthwhile to contribute, it doesn't matter what his background is.
That said, groundhog, just be respectful of the fact that you are a non-dental on a dental forum.

 

[groundhog]

I've seen some losers in my life, but you take the cake. WTF is a non-dentist doing in a dental forum?! I mean, seriously, you must be one mentally inbalanced person to hang out on boards full of people discussing something of which you have all of zero experience. Your analogy to why you think you can compare your situation to ours is ridiculous.

When I'm on call, there are nights I go without much sleep. Should I think I can compare myself to prisoners who are forced to go through sleep withdrawal as punishment because I too have gone without sleep? I mean, really, just do us all a favor and leave.

I appreciate your response and so admire how you pulled it off in true Ann Coulter fashion. Can't wait for your forthcoming publication "How to talk to a non-dental" to appear on the book shelves. I'll even spring for the hardback version. Hell, in a couple of years I bet it will become the de rigueur text book for dental school "patient relations" classes.