I have about the same dilemma! Except it's Harvard vs. UIC. I really want to specialize, so I'm leaning towards Harvard. I also really liked the curriculum, people, campus, etc. However... I can't get over how expensive it is! I'm going to have to take out all loans... and then more loans for specializing. I just don't want to be poor after having gone through all this hard work!
If you wanna save moneym go to UCSF, you wanna become a researcher, go to Harvard, and I dont know anything about UM sooo...no comments there. I heard this from a doctor, 35% of the kids who graduated from Harvard Dental school will apply and go to Med school afterward. Come to California!!! You're gonna LOVE teh weather!!!!
Yes, I am taking about loans for just about everything (parents contribute some, but majority is just me). However, I don't think it should cost you over 300k even if you took out loans for everything. I thought it was more like 250-260. Still not cheap, but quite a difference form 300+. Financial aid is fine (our financial aid person is awesome). It's a direct loan system from the government so you don't have to worry about choosing lenders or anything like that (although that is an option if you want to take it).Mia are you taking out loans for Harvard? If so, how is their financial aid system? I'm just really worried about the >$300,000 I'll have to take out total!
Definitely get in touch with her- she will break it down for you and put it all into perspective. As for specializing, it depends on the program. Some have a stipend, others don't and you have to pay tuition.Yeah, I keep hearing that Ann Doherty is awesome. Unfortunately she was sick the day of my interview, but I'm going to talk to her next week over the phone. I'm glad to hear that she eased your mind... hopefully she'll reduce some of my worry as well! As for the $300,000 I quoted... I was also factoring in the hypothetical cost of specializing. Do students have to take out more loans to enter a specialty program?
Then either don't go to Harvard, or go to Harvard and practice more after graduation.so i know that at the Harvard interview all the students were really comfortable about the lack of pre-clinical. But i'm still slightly worried about this, I'm not entirely sure I want to specialize so I'm a little unsure about where that would leave me after 4 years if I decide not to specialize? Thoughts?
I have been having these same anxieties. I just had lunch with a dentists and she told me hands down her biggest recommendation is to do a 1 yr residency program after graduation from dental school. When she was interviewing for jobs she said a majority of the practices would only interview young dentists if they had completed residency. She said it doesn't pay much but you get so so so much awesome experience that you will be much more prepared when you really get out in the field. So, don't let the potential of not wanting to specialize prevent you from going to Harvard.so i know that at the Harvard interview all the students were really comfortable about the lack of pre-clinical. But i'm still slightly worried about this, I'm not entirely sure I want to specialize so I'm a little unsure about where that would leave me after 4 years if I decide not to specialize? Thoughts?
While research is required here, it is not as extensive as you might think. It is a 7 week project that gets completed during the summer after your first year, and there is NO required thesis for it. Obviously there are opportunities for more extensive research if that is what you want to do, but by no means is it forced upon you. Those who are interested in research however have so many great opportunities available to them- just another perk of coming here.Let's be honest here....Harvard is a very prestigous school but they are known for RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH. If you read their school's agenda and the such you will notice that it is quite different from most other schools. Their focus is in finding innovative ways to do this and that in the field of dentistry.
I think you will have a better didactic experience at Michigan. They have research there but it is optional so really you will have a great clinical training there I think, and if research is your forte you are at one of the most well-funded public universities in the midwest and I don't think you can go wrong with that. UCSF is more research oriented, but less so than Harvard.
Why do people freak out about Harvard so much? Like,.. turning down Harvard is such an insane thing to do. 3 people in my class turned down Harvard for UCSF.
Not sayn that Harvard is a bad school. In fact I hear it's really good and it does have, "the name" but so does plenty of other schools.
My opinion, if you definitley want to specialize and don't mind borrowing a crapload of $$ and need to have that diploma on the wall that says, "Harvard" then go there. Nothing wrong with that.
As far as the research thing goes, UCSF has been #1 in that category for like a decade(determined by funding, not neccessarily output, which is hard to gauge). UCSF is all about research. I personnaly don't care about it, but if your into it, UCSF is the place.
P.S. I heard that Harvard D-School is the illegitimate, red headed step child to their med school. This is from several Harvard grads in UCSF postgrad programs, mostly ortho, I talked to.
You can't go wrong either way you choose.
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