so whats going on with these snail mail letters... are they just sending out rejections or also interviews? or are interview invites only updated on our status page? does anyone know when this is gonna happen?
University of Illinois?
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According to last year's interview thread, people's status changed around 1/15 and they received a letter a few days later. At least I think that's what I remember reading 🙂
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From the few that have responded, I think their statuses had changed earlier in november.
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Hello people,
They have the first phase cut off done(gpa, GRE, didn't have all of the pre-reqs, etc...). The people that did not make the first cut will be receiving interview not offered letters soon.
Yes, those who made it through phase II (or did not) will be notified mid January. The status page will change way before a letter with further information will arrive. The interviews are generally around the second full week of February, which is around the 15th this year.
People that are accepted will find out by mail the following week. The waitlisters (everybody left after the interviews and acceptances) are notified at the same time.
Hope this is helpful.
They have the first phase cut off done(gpa, GRE, didn't have all of the pre-reqs, etc...). The people that did not make the first cut will be receiving interview not offered letters soon.
Yes, those who made it through phase II (or did not) will be notified mid January. The status page will change way before a letter with further information will arrive. The interviews are generally around the second full week of February, which is around the 15th this year.
People that are accepted will find out by mail the following week. The waitlisters (everybody left after the interviews and acceptances) are notified at the same time.
Hope this is helpful.
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What on earth did they use for a gpa cutoff? My GRE score and gpa are nowhere near the minimum they require, yet I didn't make it through phase I. The lady on the phone said it was because of my gpa, so they obviously are making judgement calls in Phase I beyond just their minimum requirements.
If I don't get in anywhere this year, Illinois won't be getting any of my money next year. This reminds me of the post that started this thread...
If I don't get in anywhere this year, Illinois won't be getting any of my money next year. This reminds me of the post that started this thread...
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Well I know last year they told me the non resident pool was extremely competitive. So it could just be that your stats were good but there were too many people above you with wildly high gpa/gre scores. I can't remember off the top of my head what the nonresident gpa avg was last year, but I remember being told it was way high for the usual stats.
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yikes, i have a 3.4 gpa, exactly lol 3.40 hahah but with illinois doing their weird thing for which classes count or don't count it was lower than a 3.4. and my science gpa was also lower than what is on my official transcript because they didn't count my animal sci courses.
maybe they just forgot about me and i was shoved in the back lol
maybe they just forgot about me and i was shoved in the back lol
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I'm OOS (MD) and have a 3.27 according to UIUC (my school's transcript says 3.28 😛 ), but I seem to still be in the running. I had a pretty high GRE, though.
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I can tell you that U of I does look at things other than the gpa for the first cutoff.
The rigor is very important. If a person had extra curricular activities, research, a lot of work hours, study abroad, etc... while taking classes(full-time at least, of course), that is also weighed during the first phase along with the GRE.
Once rigor points were added to the gpa's and GRE, all of the application scores were put into the computer. The computer decided the cutoff.
Phase II is very subjective. The three people that read your VMCAS and supplemental don't see where you are on the list or any grades whatsoever, so it's up to them to decide whether they want to send you on to the next round or not. I hope they all had good days and were very optimistic when making their selections. These selections are assigned points, fed into the computer, and the computer assigns the 300 that get the interview invites.
It sounds like the new curriculum has this year's out of state applicants even more competitive.
Let me know if you guys want to know anything about the curriculum change or the rest of the application process.
The rigor is very important. If a person had extra curricular activities, research, a lot of work hours, study abroad, etc... while taking classes(full-time at least, of course), that is also weighed during the first phase along with the GRE.
Once rigor points were added to the gpa's and GRE, all of the application scores were put into the computer. The computer decided the cutoff.
Phase II is very subjective. The three people that read your VMCAS and supplemental don't see where you are on the list or any grades whatsoever, so it's up to them to decide whether they want to send you on to the next round or not. I hope they all had good days and were very optimistic when making their selections. These selections are assigned points, fed into the computer, and the computer assigns the 300 that get the interview invites.
It sounds like the new curriculum has this year's out of state applicants even more competitive.
Let me know if you guys want to know anything about the curriculum change or the rest of the application process.
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I woudl LOVE to have an overview of the curriculum change and how you feel it has affected admissions.
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I'd love to know how the new curriculum was also-and how it affects the rest of the years...do all semesters begin now with those 8 weeks of clinical rotations? how are they factoring in who they interview with all of this? do tell....
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Warning Really Long Post
The UIUC CVM curriculum focuses on exposure to different aspects and specialties that are available for study at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine or affiliated organizations.
A brief overview of the previous curriculum during the first 16 weeks:
• Individual courses on Gross Anatomy, Histology, Neurobiology, and Physiology.
• Each instructor did not know what the other instructor was teaching or emphasizing
• The same disease or subject would be covered by said different instructors at different times during the year without continuity
• Quizzes and exams were spread out over the semester. There could be a different quiz everyday of the week.
• No access to live animals or clients, other than during club wetlabs, or other functions
The new curriculum during the same 16 weeks:
• The first 8 weeks is Clinical Practice
o The 120 of us first years were randomly placed into 8 one week long rotations
 They took this randomness seriously, because there weren't that many repeats as far as the people that we saw in subsequent rotations.
o All of the 120 students will go through the core and specialty rotations this year or next year
• Core rotations are things that all veterinarians will do (like Anesthesiology)
• Specialty rotations are things that some veterinarians might do (like Clinical Toxicology and Pharmacology)
o Depending on the rotation, the students will be in groups of 2 to 12 students
 The average is about 4-6
• There were a few rotations that had two 2013'ers
o The experiences in these rotations are individual based due to the different experiences that each student gives to the program.
 This is where the supplemental is very important
o I heard a lot of "see one, do one, teach one" when I was in rotations, and that is exactly what happened. For example, if a person did not have experience doing a packed cell volume or total protein, they would watch a student that did have that experience and pass on the knowledge.
o There was a lot of learning from the faculty, licensed techs, fourth years and staff. Teamwork has a capital TEAM in some rotations
o Record keeping, dose calculation, patient monitoring, researching and presenting information about a given procedure, disease, breed specific illness, etc… was common in all of the rotations in one way or the other
o There are online modules and quizzes that are mandatory for successful completion
o Clinical Skills Learning Center
 Some rotations had mandatory time requirements to be spent in the CSLC
 There are fake limbs and dummy heads (including the llama head on the website) with which we can set up halters, practice blood draws, or intubation. There are different types of anesthesia machines, an X-ray, and an ultrasound for educational purposes.
 They have huge flat screen monitors to show lessons in surgical technique, asepsis, draping, etc…
 There are also suture and knot tying kits
 They also have the best techs ever, who are there to teach you what you need to know, and sometimes stuff that's just cool to know
• The second 8 weeks is Structure and Function I:
o One core course worth about 9 credit hours
 This course includes sections in Gross anatomy, Imaging, Physiology, Histology, Neurobiology, and Clinical Correlations
 Each subject was reviewed for the new curriculum and archaic or irrelevant information was removed. The subject matter was closely matched from instructor to instructor giving a student an opportunity to connect all aspects of a given disease or syndrome
• This is still a lot of information crammed into a little bit of time, just like the old curriculum. However, the teachers are talking about generally the same thing at close to the same time, so it is less confusing.
• There is even less room to fall behind
 Quizzes were on one day, instead of spread across a week
 Midterm and Final were two day affairs with a separate Gross Anatomy lab exam
The second 16 weeks of both are the same. Course work and exams followed by more course work and exams.
I believe that the first 8 weeks gave me a "taste" of different specialties, and helped to get me familiar with things that would happen daily in a clinic (taking a history, monitoring over time, transporting an animal to and from diagnostics, where to take a tissue sample, etc…😉. This experience made me more enthusiastic about getting to the book portion of the curriculum. It exposed me to areas that I didn't have the opportunity to experience during undergrad. I knew some of the specialties were around, but I didn't know what they did on a daily basis. By the end of that week, I had a good idea of the day to day requirements for a given specialty.
Yes, the second 8 weeks is like being thrown into the deep end, but the first 8 weeks was a different kind of deep end. The first 8 weeks also gave me a reference for things that the instructors spoke about in the second 8 weeks of study.
The second through fourth years that I know and have met are going through the old curriculum. They have access to clinics during wetlabs, electives, and while home on vacation. They do not see clinical rotations until the summer after their third year. They do junior surgery during the fall of 3rd year. The other years have access to the CSLC. They did not have access while we were on our rotations, because it wasn't quite finished yet. The CSLC has set hours like any other study or computer lab. The techs have set hours when you can come in and ask for help or go through a program outside of scheduled class times.
I think that the other years are getting a few electives that give them more of what we get during colloquium (read homeroom, here 😀) and clinical correlations. The prior years have a complicated number of electives that correspond to each track. We do not. We have the same number of elective requirements regardless of the track or interest the student is following.
Next fall (second year), rotations are set for the second week of the fall semester. That means that the class of 2014 will have departed from clinics right before we go back in. Our third year is only slightly different than the standard. We are told we will be doing junior surgery at the same time, but we will start our 4th year rotations the last 8 weeks of the spring semester of our third year. I think that we'll be more confident about what we can do once we get out into practice or labs, because of all of this extra clinical experience.
Because going into clinics on day one is way different from what was done previously, the type of student going into the curriculum may be slightly different. I went through the 2012 interview process and the 2013 interview process. They were the same. The criteria for selection may have changed. I am neither a member of the admissions committee nor a mind reader, so I don't know how it has changed. What I do know is that I was on the waiting list for admission two years in a row. The first year I got the "not likely" letter, which means that I was not within the first 10 (instate) or 40 (out of state) people on the list. The second time, I got a "possibility" letter, which meant I was within that top 10. The only change was that I retook the GRE. I got a slightly higher score, but the percentages were the same.
I encourage you to go to the website and look through the information.
Here is where you can find more information on the curriculum.
There was some weirdness with the bullets, so... sorry.
Let me know if there are any other questions.
The UIUC CVM curriculum focuses on exposure to different aspects and specialties that are available for study at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine or affiliated organizations.
A brief overview of the previous curriculum during the first 16 weeks:
• Individual courses on Gross Anatomy, Histology, Neurobiology, and Physiology.
• Each instructor did not know what the other instructor was teaching or emphasizing
• The same disease or subject would be covered by said different instructors at different times during the year without continuity
• Quizzes and exams were spread out over the semester. There could be a different quiz everyday of the week.
• No access to live animals or clients, other than during club wetlabs, or other functions
The new curriculum during the same 16 weeks:
• The first 8 weeks is Clinical Practice
o The 120 of us first years were randomly placed into 8 one week long rotations
 They took this randomness seriously, because there weren't that many repeats as far as the people that we saw in subsequent rotations.
o All of the 120 students will go through the core and specialty rotations this year or next year
• Core rotations are things that all veterinarians will do (like Anesthesiology)
• Specialty rotations are things that some veterinarians might do (like Clinical Toxicology and Pharmacology)
o Depending on the rotation, the students will be in groups of 2 to 12 students
 The average is about 4-6
• There were a few rotations that had two 2013'ers
o The experiences in these rotations are individual based due to the different experiences that each student gives to the program.
 This is where the supplemental is very important
o I heard a lot of "see one, do one, teach one" when I was in rotations, and that is exactly what happened. For example, if a person did not have experience doing a packed cell volume or total protein, they would watch a student that did have that experience and pass on the knowledge.
o There was a lot of learning from the faculty, licensed techs, fourth years and staff. Teamwork has a capital TEAM in some rotations
o Record keeping, dose calculation, patient monitoring, researching and presenting information about a given procedure, disease, breed specific illness, etc… was common in all of the rotations in one way or the other
o There are online modules and quizzes that are mandatory for successful completion
o Clinical Skills Learning Center
 Some rotations had mandatory time requirements to be spent in the CSLC
 There are fake limbs and dummy heads (including the llama head on the website) with which we can set up halters, practice blood draws, or intubation. There are different types of anesthesia machines, an X-ray, and an ultrasound for educational purposes.
 They have huge flat screen monitors to show lessons in surgical technique, asepsis, draping, etc…
 There are also suture and knot tying kits
 They also have the best techs ever, who are there to teach you what you need to know, and sometimes stuff that's just cool to know
• The second 8 weeks is Structure and Function I:
o One core course worth about 9 credit hours
 This course includes sections in Gross anatomy, Imaging, Physiology, Histology, Neurobiology, and Clinical Correlations
 Each subject was reviewed for the new curriculum and archaic or irrelevant information was removed. The subject matter was closely matched from instructor to instructor giving a student an opportunity to connect all aspects of a given disease or syndrome
• This is still a lot of information crammed into a little bit of time, just like the old curriculum. However, the teachers are talking about generally the same thing at close to the same time, so it is less confusing.
• There is even less room to fall behind
 Quizzes were on one day, instead of spread across a week
 Midterm and Final were two day affairs with a separate Gross Anatomy lab exam
The second 16 weeks of both are the same. Course work and exams followed by more course work and exams.
I believe that the first 8 weeks gave me a "taste" of different specialties, and helped to get me familiar with things that would happen daily in a clinic (taking a history, monitoring over time, transporting an animal to and from diagnostics, where to take a tissue sample, etc…😉. This experience made me more enthusiastic about getting to the book portion of the curriculum. It exposed me to areas that I didn't have the opportunity to experience during undergrad. I knew some of the specialties were around, but I didn't know what they did on a daily basis. By the end of that week, I had a good idea of the day to day requirements for a given specialty.
Yes, the second 8 weeks is like being thrown into the deep end, but the first 8 weeks was a different kind of deep end. The first 8 weeks also gave me a reference for things that the instructors spoke about in the second 8 weeks of study.
The second through fourth years that I know and have met are going through the old curriculum. They have access to clinics during wetlabs, electives, and while home on vacation. They do not see clinical rotations until the summer after their third year. They do junior surgery during the fall of 3rd year. The other years have access to the CSLC. They did not have access while we were on our rotations, because it wasn't quite finished yet. The CSLC has set hours like any other study or computer lab. The techs have set hours when you can come in and ask for help or go through a program outside of scheduled class times.
I think that the other years are getting a few electives that give them more of what we get during colloquium (read homeroom, here 😀) and clinical correlations. The prior years have a complicated number of electives that correspond to each track. We do not. We have the same number of elective requirements regardless of the track or interest the student is following.
Next fall (second year), rotations are set for the second week of the fall semester. That means that the class of 2014 will have departed from clinics right before we go back in. Our third year is only slightly different than the standard. We are told we will be doing junior surgery at the same time, but we will start our 4th year rotations the last 8 weeks of the spring semester of our third year. I think that we'll be more confident about what we can do once we get out into practice or labs, because of all of this extra clinical experience.
Because going into clinics on day one is way different from what was done previously, the type of student going into the curriculum may be slightly different. I went through the 2012 interview process and the 2013 interview process. They were the same. The criteria for selection may have changed. I am neither a member of the admissions committee nor a mind reader, so I don't know how it has changed. What I do know is that I was on the waiting list for admission two years in a row. The first year I got the "not likely" letter, which means that I was not within the first 10 (instate) or 40 (out of state) people on the list. The second time, I got a "possibility" letter, which meant I was within that top 10. The only change was that I retook the GRE. I got a slightly higher score, but the percentages were the same.
I encourage you to go to the website and look through the information.
Here is where you can find more information on the curriculum.
There was some weirdness with the bullets, so... sorry.
Let me know if there are any other questions.
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As far as interviewing is concerned, they select the 300 people and interview all 300 on the same day. This is how it's been done for decades, and i don't think they'll be changing it any time soon.
I did get some rumblings (from other years) about wanting this to happen years ago, and students not feeling as confident about their skills because of all of the neat stuff in the CSLC. Once they found out that they would be getting access to the CSLC, the rumbling changed to anticipation.
I think communication skills will be taken into consideration, as it has in the past. They may look for students who would be comfortable in different situations, meeting different people. Since the interview is behavioral, the questions will be similar to last years, but the answers can't be memorized.
I think our class is pretty easy going on the most part. We're also very helpful and try to keep everybody up to speed/ informed in the class. I don't think I saw anyone on our rotations or in labs that were afraid to get in there and do what was asked of them.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the ad comms selected us for those reasons. They needed some trailblazers to take the good and the bad it takes to work out all of the kinks of a brand new curriculum.
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Hi Truth74,
Thanks you very much! This sounds really amazing and makes me even more eager to go to U of I!!! I am ready to be a trailblazer too! What classes would you suggest taking to prepare for the first year? What do you wish you would have known before entering U of I?
Thanks you very much! This sounds really amazing and makes me even more eager to go to U of I!!! I am ready to be a trailblazer too! What classes would you suggest taking to prepare for the first year? What do you wish you would have known before entering U of I?
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As I said, they are still molding the process as they go along. I am a non-trad and had a circuitous undergrad at best. I took all of the required course and all of the recommendations, as well.
The majority of the main science courses recommended on the site were covered in some way during the first semester of vet med (biochem, chem, orgo I, cell biology,anatomy and physiology, etc,,,). If they recommend it, a snippet of it showed up in class somewhere. They pull out from all of the courses in undergrad the things they want you to know.
I do wish I had taken a neurobiology course at some point, but I did okay with the information that was given to me.
If you learned the undergrad course material for content and not just to do well on the exams, then you're gonna be fine. It should be the fifth or sixth time of going over certain topics.
I would definitely concentrate on how you are learning and the time it takes to learn. Learn how to budget your time, now. I thought I was good at it in undergrad, but now, I am so much better.
The majority of the main science courses recommended on the site were covered in some way during the first semester of vet med (biochem, chem, orgo I, cell biology,anatomy and physiology, etc,,,). If they recommend it, a snippet of it showed up in class somewhere. They pull out from all of the courses in undergrad the things they want you to know.
I do wish I had taken a neurobiology course at some point, but I did okay with the information that was given to me.
If you learned the undergrad course material for content and not just to do well on the exams, then you're gonna be fine. It should be the fifth or sixth time of going over certain topics.
I would definitely concentrate on how you are learning and the time it takes to learn. Learn how to budget your time, now. I thought I was good at it in undergrad, but now, I am so much better.
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I don't post here much, but thanks Truth74 for your great description of the new curriculum. I was really curious about it and it really sounds exciting! I just have a couple more questions for you...
As far as the coursework aspect of the curriculum goes, will you always take just a single core course worth 9 credit hours? Or is that just how the second half of the first semester is taught?
Also, when you're in clinics that first 8 weeks, what are the hours like (is it like a 9-5 M-F situation?).
thanks again 🙂
As far as the coursework aspect of the curriculum goes, will you always take just a single core course worth 9 credit hours? Or is that just how the second half of the first semester is taught?
Also, when you're in clinics that first 8 weeks, what are the hours like (is it like a 9-5 M-F situation?).
thanks again 🙂
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Anyone know when we hear about interviews?
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I heard that we start to hear around January 12, but I'm not positive.
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Random Question: If you guys go to U of I next year, do you plan on bringing a car?
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In response to the car:
I attend the U of I for my undergrad right now and work at Vet Med! I have a car on campus and to be honest, it is the biggest pain in my butt ever. There is nearly no free parking, most certainly not around vet med. I spend a good 20 dollars on meters every week or so, and unless you plan on investing in an *expensive* parking permit, it's very difficult.
So if I attend, I will continue to use my car - just because it's integrated into my life - but campus has an extensive bus system that fits most people's needs. Probably better to meet up with someone with a car than to experience the massive hassle that it is.
I attend the U of I for my undergrad right now and work at Vet Med! I have a car on campus and to be honest, it is the biggest pain in my butt ever. There is nearly no free parking, most certainly not around vet med. I spend a good 20 dollars on meters every week or so, and unless you plan on investing in an *expensive* parking permit, it's very difficult.
So if I attend, I will continue to use my car - just because it's integrated into my life - but campus has an extensive bus system that fits most people's needs. Probably better to meet up with someone with a car than to experience the massive hassle that it is.
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In response to the car question: The parking permit for vet med runs in the neighborhood of $600 for a year-round pass, which is about four times what I was used to paying in undergrad. The cost is absurd, but I'm not a bus person, so I coughed up the dough. Taking the bus from my house would involve at least one transfer (the bus that comes by my neighborhood isn't the same one that goes to the vet school) and I like being able to get in my car and be at the school in five minutes. It's especially nice to have a car if you have wetlabs, club meetings, or treatments at the wildlife clinic that aren't directly after class. I know of people who split the cost of a permit with their roommates and carpool together, so that's always an option. I also know of some (very hardy) individuals who walk or bike to class every day even in the horrible Illinois winter.
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Thanks guys about the cars! I guess I might wait to see what the need is when I am there. The parking situation seems like a real pain in the butt though!!!
Also, thanks PennyPup for the interview notification estimate. Anyone know when interviews actually are this year? All of my pre-vet friends haven't heard yet about the actual date either....
Also, thanks PennyPup for the interview notification estimate. Anyone know when interviews actually are this year? All of my pre-vet friends haven't heard yet about the actual date either....
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Hey there,
I think it depends on which rotation is in your schedule.
Some rotations had me come in at 4:30 am and others started at 1pm.
Some rotations were great about filling your schedule with stuff to do, and you didn't want to leave after the 8 or so hours. Other rotations dragged for hours and hours. Most of the rotations were M-F, but there were some exceptions that had times on the weekends.
The courses are split into 8 week sections with lecture and lab portions. The credit hours account for all of those portions together. I think, that it is easier to have one grade for that quarter, instead of individual grades for each subject. So, yes it is 9 hours, for the one course which is split into sections.
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O M G. so i have a pretty busy day job and and usually pretty busy night job to keep me occupied-but i still think i'll explode before friday comes. i just want to know what is going on!!!!!
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Wait... do you know that we'll get news on friday or are you guessing based upon last year?
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on the link page to the status website it said interview notifications would go out mid-january. so, based on that, and what Truth suggested. Also, based on the last couple of years notice went out between the 12th and 16th of Jan.
DYIN HERE.
DYIN HERE.
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Hello everyone,
I just called and spoke with a woman about the interview date, so I thought I would at least post that for anyone wondering - it will be the 22nd of February. I did ask when to expect a change in the status page and she was vague - stating that it would be in a week or two. I am hoping we'll see a change later this week.
I just called and spoke with a woman about the interview date, so I thought I would at least post that for anyone wondering - it will be the 22nd of February. I did ask when to expect a change in the status page and she was vague - stating that it would be in a week or two. I am hoping we'll see a change later this week.
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You all scared me. I thought that our pages changed when I saw that a few others posted!!! I keep hoping one of you will see the change first and warn us on SDN so I won't be so surprised when the change occurs. This stinks. Here is to Friday!
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uhhhhh.... anyone else's status page down??
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mine is down too.... It makes me nervous like they're editing it :😕
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Mine is too...it says bad gateway???
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yes.. that was a whole load of disappointment
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Mine still isn't working....I hate status pages!
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mine still isnt working either... hmmm
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heh i had a hamster who i swear died from overrunning. day and night...we had to keep oiling her wheel with pam because she ran so much it kept getting squeeky!
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thats totally my hamster right now. he runs so much and is so loud he has his own bedroom hah! as for the status page.. mine was down, then back up, and just went back down.. weird
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i am super curious now because wasn't it illinois that had website malfunctions before and they claimed it was a mistake but later we found out there was real rejections? im too lazy to scroll up and read if this was the school lol but anyway...maybe tomorrow morning there will be news!!
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That was Illinois! Sketchy technical problems. I bet we find out in the next few days 🙂 I think a week or two (what the admissions ppl said) is a bit of an overestimate.
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when i needed to reschedule penn, the lady made it sound like i wouldnt find out for another week or more! even after i contacted her a second time. so ive been super panicky because i thought maybe i wouldnt get rescheduled. then TONIGHT i get an email. i had just spoken to her yesterday lol does she know how much stress she gave me last night?? she could have at least said i'll hear soon!
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schools do lie about this. I cant remember what school, but one school this cycle said interview invites would go out in two weeks (after someone called) and two days later, they were emailed out...so we shall see.
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