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For those of you who got in: How much and what kind of pharmacy experience do you have?

i've got just over 500 hours at a closed pharmacy and about 100 hours at nursing homes and at a pharmacy lobbying group- complete opposite of what i had last year (big tragic 0 hours anywhere, yeah i've been busy). i think it reflects well on you to have experience; its certainly changed my perspective on pharmacy and i think thats what they like to see. about 80% of accepted students have at least 50 hours doing pharmacy stuff and of that 80% about half have more than 100 hours so I think you're looking good in that respect
 
Yes, that's the total oppposite! Hopefully that will work out for you. 👍
 
Does anyone know if the essays that we have to write for the undergraduate transfer application are evaluated? I think that I have something very beneficial to my application in one of those essays.

As far as I know, these essays are only seen by UT Main campus people, not the Pharmacy school. For writing, they just use your PCAT writing score plus the 2 pharmacy related essays.
 
Wow, you guys have soooo much more experience than me, I'm not liking my chances now. I only have ~50 hrs volunteer experience in a few different pharmacies (mostly in-patient hospital). A lot of my time goes towards helping out military families so I've been really limited in squeezing in more things to do during the week.

Well I guess if I don't get in this year I'll have a whole year to get more experience. I was planning on trying to get a job as a pharm tech. Plus I'd like to take some fun classes at school that I haven't had a chance to do because I've been doing nothing but pre-reqs. Would that look bad for me? I want to take piano lessons, maybe also take a painting or photography class. I don't want them to think I was slacking off for a year 😱 Also, after this semester I have one pre-req left to do. Does anyone think it would be beneficial to take that pre-req at UTA to prove that I can handle it? All my pre-reqs are from cc. Also, anyone know how much one undergrad class costs at UTA? (I need to take micro. w/lab)
 
Wow, you guys have soooo much more experience than me, I'm not liking my chances now. I only have ~50 hrs volunteer experience in a few different pharmacies (mostly in-patient hospital). A lot of my time goes towards helping out military families so I've been really limited in squeezing in more things to do during the week.

http://www.utexas.edu/pharmacy/admissions/ad_stats07.pdf

Scroll down to the bar graph with volunteer hours. The largest group of people getting in have 5-49 hours.

There's another graph for "PHR work." Does anyone know what that is? Pharmacy work?
 
Wow, you guys have soooo much more experience than me, I'm not liking my chances now. I only have ~50 hrs volunteer experience in a few different pharmacies (mostly in-patient hospital). A lot of my time goes towards helping out military families so I've been really limited in squeezing in more things to do during the week.

Well I guess if I don't get in this year I'll have a whole year to get more experience. I was planning on trying to get a job as a pharm tech. Plus I'd like to take some fun classes at school that I haven't had a chance to do because I've been doing nothing but pre-reqs. Would that look bad for me? I want to take piano lessons, maybe also take a painting or photography class. I don't want them to think I was slacking off for a year 😱 Also, after this semester I have one pre-req left to do. Does anyone think it would be beneficial to take that pre-req at UTA to prove that I can handle it? All my pre-reqs are from cc. Also, anyone know how much one undergrad class costs at UTA? (I need to take micro. w/lab)

The prices for the classes vary--it just depends on which class you're looking to take. I just checked the course schedule for this semester, and it looks like the microbiology classes are around $90. Unfortunately, though, the lab for microbiology isn't going to be offered at UT until next January at the earliest, because they're tearing down the building where the labs were held. Last semester was the last opportunity to take it at UT until 2009.
 
Unfortunately, though, the lab for microbiology isn't going to be offered at UT until next January at the earliest, because they're tearing down the building where the labs were held. Last semester was the last opportunity to take it at UT until 2009.

Wow, that would really screw me if I do get in this year... micro w/chem + biol prereqs isn't offered at too many places. I was planning on doing it at UT in the summer. Thanks for letting me know though. Gives me time to find somewhere that does offer it in the summer.
 
http://www.utexas.edu/pharmacy/admissions/ad_stats07.pdf

Scroll down to the bar graph with volunteer hours. The largest group of people getting in have 5-49 hours.

There's another graph for "PHR work." Does anyone know what that is? Pharmacy work?

Yeah I saw this before and it worried me because the bar for 100-249 hrs is about the same as 5-49 hrs, so most accepted applicants either have a lot or not so much volunteer experience. And I'd rather be in the a lot of vol. experience bar.

Yeah the PHR work has got to be the % of accepted applicants that either have worked or are currently working in a pharmacy. That also worried me because looks like the majority that are accepted work in a pharmacy.

Oh well, it's been a good experience for me applying this year even if I don't get in. I'll at least know what I'm doing next time and I'll get my application in EARLY 😀
 
I was looking into taking a class or two a couple of years ago after I graduated, and it was going to cost me $1600 for one class and $2400 for two classes. It is pretty expensive, so I would suggest taking "fun" classes at a community college.
 
I was looking into taking a class or two a couple of years ago after I graduated, and it was going to cost me $1600 for one class and $2400 for two classes. It is pretty expensive, so I would suggest taking "fun" classes at a community college.

Yes, I was afraid of that... that's quite a lot of money for one class. Thanks.
 
http://www.utexas.edu/pharmacy/admissions/ad_stats07.pdf

Scroll down to the bar graph with volunteer hours. The largest group of people getting in have 5-49 hours.

There's another graph for "PHR work." Does anyone know what that is? Pharmacy work?

i saw dr. wilcox give an explanation about these graphs early in the school year. the volunteer graph is indicating the volunteer hours of last years' pharmacy acceptees; these hours are not necessarily in pharmacy settings just anywhere. he used it to illustrate that accepted people are involved in the community. the phr work graph is the actual pharmacy experience breakdown
 
Wow, you guys have soooo much more experience than me, I'm not liking my chances now. I only have ~50 hrs volunteer experience in a few different pharmacies (mostly in-patient hospital). A lot of my time goes towards helping out military families so I've been really limited in squeezing in more things to do during the week.

Well I guess if I don't get in this year I'll have a whole year to get more experience. I was planning on trying to get a job as a pharm tech. Plus I'd like to take some fun classes at school that I haven't had a chance to do because I've been doing nothing but pre-reqs. Would that look bad for me? I want to take piano lessons, maybe also take a painting or photography class. I don't want them to think I was slacking off for a year 😱 Also, after this semester I have one pre-req left to do. Does anyone think it would be beneficial to take that pre-req at UTA to prove that I can handle it? All my pre-reqs are from cc. Also, anyone know how much one undergrad class costs at UTA? (I need to take micro. w/lab)

having worked in a variety of different settings is good. apparently a good thing to have is diversity and specialization in your pharmacy background.

about the work thing; if you're certified then i would suggest getting a position somewhere asap. it looks bad to have certification but not putting it to use unless you have an explanation somewhere.

if u get in it doesnt matter where you take the prereq. just take it. i know at least 2 people were thrown out on the first day of school for not completing prereqs or failing prereqs in the summer. and yes those spots went to waste
 
the volunteer graph is indicating the volunteer hours of last years' pharmacy acceptees; these hours are not necessarily in pharmacy settings just anywhere. he used it to illustrate that accepted people are involved in the community. the phr work graph is the actual pharmacy experience breakdown

Oh, thanks for the clarification. I have heaps of non-pharmacy volunteering 🙂

about the work thing; if you're certified then i would suggest getting a position somewhere asap. it looks bad to have certification but not putting it to use unless you have an explanation somewhere.

if u get in it doesnt matter where you take the prereq. just take it. i know at least 2 people were thrown out on the first day of school for not completing prereqs or failing prereqs in the summer.

No, I'm not certified. I'm going to take the test in June though, so should help with getting a job.

As for the mirco pre-req... I'll definitely take it in the summer if I'm accepted, but don't like my chances so I'm not too worried about it. I've taken it before, but in Australia so I don't know if UT will accept it. I think it had chem and biol as a prereq but it was a couple of years ago so I really don't remember.

Thanks for the info 😉
 
i saw dr. wilcox give an explanation about these graphs early in the school year. the volunteer graph is indicating the volunteer hours of last years' pharmacy acceptees; these hours are not necessarily in pharmacy settings just anywhere. he used it to illustrate that accepted people are involved in the community. the phr work graph is the actual pharmacy experience breakdown

*whew* Thanks for the clarification.
 
From my perspective, the reason the admissions committee is looking for people with a good chunk of experience is to make sure that the students they are interviewing 1) know what they are getting themselves into as far as lifestyle of a pharmacist, and 2) know what it is about pharmacy that makes it the "right" choice for a career.

The adcoms apparently spend a good amount of time trying to find out if interviewees actually want to be real pharmacists and are committed to the field--as opposed to those who are doing it only for the money, prestige, to say they "help" others, etc. Essentially, you need to be able to relate what you've learned in your pharmacy experience to WHY you want to go to school for 4 more years and become a pharmacist. It's much easier said than done and requires you to set some time aside for self reflection and planning (prewriting, rehearsing, etc.) to get your point across clearly in the interview.

So those of you getting ready to interview in the next few months, start thinking about this now--your explanations will be fully refined by the time your interview rolls around.
 
As for the mirco pre-req... I'll definitely take it in the summer if I'm accepted, but don't like my chances so I'm not too worried about it. I've taken it before, but in Australia so I don't know if UT will accept it. I think it had chem and biol as a prereq but it was a couple of years ago so I really don't remember.

Thanks for the info 😉

Check on the transfer equivalents with Greg Calderas, a Pharmacy advisor. He was very helpful to me when I was trying to transfer credits completed 8 years ago. B/c the Experimental Science Building is being demolished, I'm not sure how you'd take the microbio lab--there might be some other option to take it elsewhere, because I know a LOT of students weren't able to complete it before the cutoff date and still wanted to apply for this year. (They let us know midsemester that the following semester was the LAST and ONLY semester in which we could take that stupid course!) Talk to Greg about that, too. There are probably a few more options available now if you need to take it over the summer.
 
Talk to Greg about that, too. There are probably a few more options available now if you need to take it over the summer.

Thanks, I'll try emailing him sometime this week. I'm glad I said something... I just thought it'd be on offer in the summer like every other time. Thanks for letting me know.
 
...I'm not sure how you'd take the microbio lab--there might be some other option to take it elsewhere, because I know a LOT of students weren't able to complete it before the cutoff date and still wanted to apply for this year. (They let us know midsemester that the following semester was the LAST and ONLY semester in which we could take that stupid course!) Talk to Greg about that, too. There are probably a few more options available now if you need to take it over the summer.

I'm pretty sure you can take th micro lab at ACC. This is what i found from the Tech website...
Prerequisites for University of Texas Austin (Micro lab from ACC acceptable during demolition of UT building)

I'm assuming UT is also doing the same thing. But I'll go ahead and speak to that person she said you should talk to. 🙂
 
I'm pretty sure you can take th micro lab at ACC. This is what i found from the Tech website...
Prerequisites for University of Texas Austin (Micro lab from ACC acceptable during demolition of UT building)

I'm assuming UT is also doing the same thing. But I'll go ahead and speak to that person she said you should talk to. 🙂

I just emailed Mr. Caldera and I might call him tomorrow too. I'm going to look into doing it at ACC too. Thanks for your help 🙂

Hey, I just looked it up... ACC has micro. And they have it in the summer! Thank you so much!!!
 
oh wait. rntopharmacy is right. they would really rather you take your sciences at UT, but again if you are already accepted it probably won't harm you to take it elsewhere
 
oh wait. rntopharmacy is right. they would really rather you take your sciences at UT, but again if you are already accepted it probably won't harm you to take it elsewhere

That kind of bothers me. Isn't the PCAT supposed to show that you learned something even if you went to Podunk U?
 
I heard, but don't quote me, from a few current pharmacy students that the PCAT is only a tiebreaker. Not sure how true that is but they were very insistent on that.
 
I heard, but don't quote me, from a few current pharmacy students that the PCAT is only a tiebreaker. Not sure how true that is but they were very insistent on that.

Oh, you said that a few pages back, I missed that somehow. I was hoping for my PCAT to add some weight to my application, but it looks like it won't. That combined with my coursework being done at Podunk U makes me feel like I am not a competitive applicant.
 
Oh, you said that a few pages back, I missed that somehow. I was hoping for my PCAT to add some weight to my application, but it looks like it won't. That combined with my coursework being done at Podunk U makes me feel like I am not a competitive applicant.

I'm at a 2-year cc and I don't really care. Maybe those that go to a 4 year college think they learn more but I'm been to both and I tell you, the stuff you learn is EXACTLY the same. The only difference is there are less people in the class at cc so the teacher has more time to go over questions in class AND more time to see you out of class for help + it's way cheaper. I don't feel I'm at a disadvantage at all in terms of what I've learnt. It really bothers me when people think, oh well they went to a cc so it's easier to get an A there than at a 4-year college. That's bull. You have to put in the effort either way. They don't hand out As if you don't know the stuff.

That being said, I'm not on the admissions committee, so yeah, they'll probably treat us differently... I heard some adcoms take off points of your GPA if it's from a cc. Anyone know if that is true?
 
they would really rather you take your sciences at UT

I assumed this was a money thing... they want you to take it at UT because they want you to spend more money there. In any case, I have a degree already, I'm not loooking to get another if I don't get in this year just so the adcoms know I can handle it at UT. I know I can handle it. I don't need to test the waters, so to speak, to make sure. I was going to take micro there though but with the building being rebuilt and knowing now that I can take it at ACC costing ~$1000 less, guess where I'll be taking it? Money certainly isn't everything to me but if I can get the same thing cheaper elsewhere, why not? Am I wrong in my thinking? Do adcoms really look down on people with pre-reqs from cc? Keep in mind I have a BS from a traditional 4-year college in Australia (hence the whole reason I took pre-reqs again in US, so I have a comparable gpa and so I learnt everything that I was meant to, e.g. my chem classes were not as in depth as over here, I don't even remember learning half the stuff in ochem!)
 
That being said, I'm not on the admissions committee, so yeah, they'll probably treat us differently... I heard some adcoms take off points of your GPA if it's from a cc. Anyone know if that is true?

Some of my coursework is also from a CC.

For the rest of my life, I'll be wondering if I didn't get in because of myself, because there were just so many better applicants, or because I was evaluated differently for where I went to school.

I've expressed my dismay over my interview, but it wasn't all that bad. For 80% of the questions, I feel that I gave good answers without stumbling. For that last 20%, I may have stumbled some or paused, but I did give meaningful answers.

I am bothered by two questions, though - "what does a pharmacist do" and "what is the future of pharmacy." I prepared for those, and I even asked one of the pharmacists where I volunteer questions to make sure that I had it clear. Well, my interviewers didn't care for one thing I said (which is what one of the pharmacists told me they do!). They liked my "future" answer, but for both of those questions, it seems like they didn't write anything down.😱
 
That being said, I'm not on the admissions committee, so yeah, they'll probably treat us differently... I heard some adcoms take off points of your GPA if it's from a cc. Anyone know if that is true?
I don't know about that. I took all of my prereqs at UT and I didn't get in last year. Granted I'm mostly a B student with my science classes, but I also have a degree and I have been working in critical care for the past four years. So, I'm not sure what the adcoms are looking for in terms of where you take your classes.

If I were in your situation I would just take the micro class and lab at ACC. It'll save you some money. 🙂

I hate this waiting game though. Has anyone received an invite for the next round of interviews? It's coming out this week, right?
 
Has anyone received an invite for the next round of interviews? It's coming out this week, right?

I was wondering the same thing... I remember reading that the next set of interviews are 7/8 March, so sometime this week?
 
For the rest of my life, I'll be wondering if I didn't get in because of myself, because there were just so many better applicants, or because I was evaluated differently for where I went to school.

You only got deferred right? I still got hope for you 😳
 
You only got deferred right? I still got hope for you 😳

Thanks. Yeah, it was just a deferral at this point. I'm supposed to be put through a fine-toothed comb and looked at under a magnifying glass on March 20th.
 
I was wondering the same thing... I remember reading that the next set of interviews are 7/8 March, so sometime this week?

Where did you read that? I can't seem to find an admissions schedule on their website.
I'm also wondering when i'll hear back from UT-Austin. I actually had Spring Break plans for March 7-14, but I guess I'll have to cancel them if the UT interview falls in that time frame..
 
Where did you read that? I can't seem to find an admissions schedule on their website.
I'm also wondering when i'll hear back from UT-Austin. I actually had Spring Break plans for March 7-14, but I guess I'll have to cancel them if the UT interview falls in that time frame..

A student at UT posted the dates in one of these threads. Invitations will probably go out on Friday.

Spring Break? What's that? There's this week in March when most students disappear, but I'm always there doing last minute research/poster stuff before the ACS meeting every year. :laugh:
 
Spring Break? What's that? There's this week in March when most students disappear, but I'm always there doing last minute research/poster stuff before the ACS meeting every year. :laugh:

Haha. That was my situation last year. Did you come to Chicago?
 
Wow, you guys have soooo much more experience than me, I'm not liking my chances now. I only have ~50 hrs volunteer experience in a few different pharmacies (mostly in-patient hospital). A lot of my time goes towards helping out military families so I've been really limited in squeezing in more things to do during the week.

Well I guess if I don't get in this year I'll have a whole year to get more experience. I was planning on trying to get a job as a pharm tech. Plus I'd like to take some fun classes at school that I haven't had a chance to do because I've been doing nothing but pre-reqs. Would that look bad for me? I want to take piano lessons, maybe also take a painting or photography class. I don't want them to think I was slacking off for a year 😱 Also, after this semester I have one pre-req left to do. Does anyone think it would be beneficial to take that pre-req at UTA to prove that I can handle it? All my pre-reqs are from cc. Also, anyone know how much one undergrad class costs at UTA? (I need to take micro. w/lab)

Do you have a BA degree? I'm pretty sure if you don't get in your 1st try they would like to see you take some upper division science courses possibly working towards a degree..Thats what Rich Wilcox told me last year...but if you have a degree already you should enjoy yourself and take your fun classes...🙂
 
Oh, you said that a few pages back, I missed that somehow. I was hoping for my PCAT to add some weight to my application, but it looks like it won't. That combined with my coursework being done at Podunk U makes me feel like I am not a competitive applicant.


I think about 98% of us applicants think we're not competitive enough..It's been eating me alive for over a year now. I think your competitive knicker so don't worry too much..🙂
 
From my perspective, the reason the admissions committee is looking for people with a good chunk of experience is to make sure that the students they are interviewing 1) know what they are getting themselves into as far as lifestyle of a pharmacist, and 2) know what it is about pharmacy that makes it the "right" choice for a career.

The adcoms apparently spend a good amount of time trying to find out if interviewees actually want to be real pharmacists and are committed to the field--as opposed to those who are doing it only for the money, prestige, to say they "help" others, etc. Essentially, you need to be able to relate what you've learned in your pharmacy experience to WHY you want to go to school for 4 more years and become a pharmacist. It's much easier said than done and requires you to set some time aside for self reflection and planning (prewriting, rehearsing, etc.) to get your point across clearly in the interview.

So those of you getting ready to interview in the next few months, start thinking about this now--your explanations will be fully refined by the time your interview rolls around.


Hey Happy what questions should we be thinking about to better prepare those of us getting interviews? Got any more interview advice.. Thanks😀
 
I think about 98% of us applicants think we're not competitive enough..It's been eating me alive for over a year now. I think your competitive knicker so don't worry too much..🙂

I'm trying! Also, I realize that I'm driving everyone around me (here and in real life) insane. One professor I know well starts saying "Did you get in? Did you get in? Huh? Huh? What about now?" every time he sees me.

It's nice that pretty much everyone here is so supportive, so you all deserve a break from me. :laugh:
 
I'm trying! Also, I realize that I'm driving everyone around me (here and in real life) insane. One professor I know well starts saying "Did you get in? Did you get in? Huh? Huh? What about now?" every time he sees me.

It's nice that pretty much everyone here is so supportive, so you all deserve a break from me. :laugh:
I get that "did you get in?" question a lot these days too. And don't worry...I may not whine a lot on here, but I'm sure everyone around me is tired of hearing me whine. At least you actually got an interview 😉
 
Do you have a BA degree? I'm pretty sure if you don't get in your 1st try they would like to see you take some upper division science courses possibly working towards a degree..Thats what Rich Wilcox told me last year...but if you have a degree already you should enjoy yourself and take your fun classes...🙂

Yeah a BS in Biomedical Science. So yeah, I don't really want to take any more upper science classes... unless it's in a PharmD program 😉
 
Hey Happy what questions should we be thinking about to better prepare those of us getting interviews? Got any more interview advice.. Thanks😀

Well, there's always the general questions:

1) Tell me about yourself. Why did you choose Pharmacy?
2) What is the role of a pharmacist?
3) What is the future of Pharmacy?
4) What changes do you see occurring in Pharmacy?

These may seem pretty straight forward, but trust me, when you're actually in the interview, they're much harder to answer b/c of nerves, timing, do I have something stuck in my teeth?, etc. So my advice would be to practice practice practice rehearsing some well-thought out answers to these questions. Provide enough information and support to speak for more than just a few sentences. Show how you think--how you came to your conclusions, what has influenced you, and expand on any technical knowledge you have that you can relate to the question.

They will also ask specific questions about leadership, problem solving, and ethics. You can find examples of these in the interview feedback section on SDN.
 
Well, there's always the general questions:

1) Tell me about yourself. Why did you choose Pharmacy?
2) What is the role of a pharmacist?
3) What is the future of Pharmacy?
4) What changes do you see occurring in Pharmacy?

These may seem pretty straight forward, but trust me, when you're actually in the interview, they're much harder to answer b/c of nerves, timing, do I have something stuck in my teeth?, etc. So my advice would be to practice practice practice rehearsing some well-thought out answers to these questions. Provide enough information and support to speak for more than just a few sentences. Show how you think--how you came to your conclusions, what has influenced you, and expand on any technical knowledge you have that you can relate to the question.

They will also ask specific questions about leadership, problem solving, and ethics. You can find examples of these in the interview feedback section on SDN.

Thanks for the help Happy Hounds. Hopefully I'll get a chance to use the advice this year. If not, I'll remember it for next year 🙂
 
Thanks for the help Happy Hounds. Hopefully I'll get a chance to use the advice this year. If not, I'll remember it for next year 🙂

Heh, I'm already rehearsing for next year. I had some good things to say, they just didn't make it out. Then again, my half hour was already over when we got to the "tell us about yourself" part, and I got the feeling that it was time to get me out so the next person could interview.
 
Heh, I'm already rehearsing for next year. I had some good things to say, they just didn't make it out. Then again, my half hour was already over when we got to the "tell us about yourself" part, and I got the feeling that it was time to get me out so the next person could interview.

Yeah me too... I'm going have that why pharmacy answer perfected come this time next year!
 
I keep wishing that I could go back to the start of the interview and redo it. Then I wish that, while I'm going back, I could go back a whole year. Two years. Ten years, to when I finished high school.

I didn't understand stuff like financial aid and loans when I graduated from high school. My parents, who barely graduated high school, knew little about college. They had this idea that I would get some massive scholarship to cover *every* expense because I was the salutatorian of my class. Well, I didn't, so I wound up going to a community college for a semester before dropping out to work for several years. If I understood things back then, I would have done loans and such and I would have used the "top 10% rule" to go to UT.

Then again, if I had gone to UT long ago, I wouldn't have been in school now and I would not have learned about pharmacy.
 
You know we all have regrets... we all wish we could go back and do things differently knowing what we know now. I wish I could change so many things I've done, but I wouldn't be where I am today if I hadn't done all the things I have done in the past, good and bad... and yeah, I probably wouldn't have thought of doing pharmacy. I'm just happy that I FINALLY know what I want to do in life. Better late than never right? Try to stay positive. You still have an excellent chance of getting in. And if you don't, I know it sucks, but there's anyways next year, unless of course, you get in somewhere else this year...
 
I have some chance, but I wish I knew how much it was. If my interviewers were sympathetic about how nervous I was, then I will be ok. If not, then I am probably doomed. The wait is killing me! The funny thing is that some of you who are going to interview next week will get your answer at the same time that I do.
 
Is the only thing about you that your interviewers have your essays? (No transcripts, PCAT, etc.) I've heard conflicting things on this subject...
 
Is the only thing about you that your interviewers have your essays? (No transcripts, PCAT, etc.) I've heard conflicting things on this subject...

I'm pretty certain that they only have your essays. That and your future in their hands!:scared: But seriously, they are *not* out to get you. I wish that I had known that ahead of time.
 
Yes they do have your "Why Pharmacy and Why UT" essays... my interviewer made a comment on it as he was flipping through the packet of questions and I happened to see my printed essay in the stack.... I think they skim/read each individual's essay prior to interviewing each person so that some questions may stem from it.
 
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