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It sucks that people have such a negative view of urms. Yes I am urm so I am a little biased, but why can't we all just be friends.
*plz don't flame me*
It sucks that people have such a negative view of urms. Yes I am urm so I am a little biased, but why can't we all just be friends.*plz don't flame me*
I'm sure you did. You skipped right over the URM forum to post here![]()
It's really frustrating having to read the comments some of the people make here. I hate it when people assume we slack off.Any URM reading this and getting annoyed, just let it roll of your back. We're gonna have to deal with this through our entire careers. Just be better than anybody when you do get in so they can't say a word to you.
Jesus. It's nice to know what some white folks think of us. Its nice to know that they will think that they are automatically better than me just because they're white. And that I must not be as well prepared as them even though I have a 4.0, 33 MCAT, masters degree and 8 years of work experience including owning my own business, clinical volunteer experience and speak 4 languages. But yes, I am sure that the only reason I was even considered is because I'm a minority.
Any URM reading this and getting annoyed, just let it roll off your back. We're gonna have to deal with this through our entire careers. Just be better than anybody when you do get in so they can't say a word to you.
sad and pathetic postI do not have any harsh feelings to you. You are amazing and exceptional. I also know a hard-working and intelligent URM girl with Summa Cum Laude GPA and 3 publications, so I highly respect her and congratulate her for getting into good schools and winning scholarships.
But not all URMs are talented or dedicated as you or her. Some gained acceptance mainly because they were URMs or pretended to be a URM (read my post above). And yes, these folks did work hard, but every serious premed works hard, and their endeavor was never beyond mine.
Also, I am not white and am Asian. One of my URM friends told me that "asians are smart, so they do not need URM advantage" while she maintained 3.8 GPA while partying at least twice a week and scored 33 MCAT after studying for 2 weeks.
After going through both subtle and overt inequality I underwent starting from college application, I am just happy that this inequity finally ends in residency application, so the remaining disadvantage would be whites having greater mastery of English skill and some stealthy favoritism.
sad and pathetic post
Ok, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but it sounds like you're talking about me.
If this is the case, I'm not URM cuz I'm an int' student. Just saying...
no, it was just a general thing. i picked the number randomly
Yeah, I know, that's why I put the eye roll smiley there. I just wouldn't give too much credit (even for cleverness) to someone who failed that hard academically.I think he/she meant "genius" in a more devious way, not the smart way.
I know one girl, who grew up in middle high class white neighborhood and had a lawyer father(white) and a teacher mother(caribbean).
Her father bought her a mid-size sedan and a house with 4 bedrooms right next to campus. She was naturally inclined to join a southern, white sorority then realized the importance of emphasizing her genetic identity and joined minority premed club.
After getting multiple Cs in orgo and physics and Bs in majority of upper level bio courses and having downward trend GPA, mid 20 MCAT, no research, and about 100 hours of volunteering, she got into two schools where minority student body, primary care and serving for the underserved are highly emphasized. Some of her URM friends were furious for taking a spot from them.
Now she is going for a lucrative specialty such as orthopedics.
One of my URM friends told me that "asians are smart, so they do not need URM advantage" while she maintained 3.8 GPA while partying at least twice a week and scored 33 MCAT after studying for 2 weeks.
I am just happy that this inequity finally ends in residency application, so the remaining disadvantage would be whites having greater mastery of English skill and some stealthy favoritism
Why would you post that in a thread that was simply asking for people who are URMs and were accepted this thread. I know people harbor negative feelings towards URMs, you didn't need to start something where it wouldn't have been started otherwise
He didn't know there was a URM forum. And it's sad that people harbor negative feelings for URMs.Why would you post this thread here instead of in the URM forum? I know people harbor negative feelings towards URMs, you didn't need to start something where it wouldn't have been started otherwise
Why would you post this thread here instead of in the URM forum? I know people harbor negative feelings towards URMs, you didn't need to start something where it wouldn't have been started otherwise
2 and half pages and OP still hasn't gotten what he asked for?
Do you not see how many times I've made a post (Hint: Its about 700 less than you), I am stil relatively new here. Like I've said 3 times before, I did not know there was a URM forum. In any case, I am sure there are a high number of people (some of whom could be URMs) on this forum (pre-allo) at this time because of the acceptances being given out.
I do not have any harsh feelings to you. You are amazing and exceptional. I also know a hard-working and intelligent URM girl with Summa Cum Laude GPA and 3 publications, so I highly respect her and congratulate her for getting into good schools and winning scholarships.
But not all URMs are talented or dedicated as you or her. Some gained acceptance mainly because they were URMs or pretended to be a URM (read my post above). And yes, these folks did work hard, but every serious premed works hard, and their endeavor was never beyond mine.
Also, I am not white and am Asian. One of my URM friends told me that "asians are smart, so they do not need URM advantage" while she maintained 3.8 GPA while partying at least twice a week and scored 33 MCAT after studying for 2 weeks.
After going through both subtle and overt inequality I underwent starting from college application, I am just happy that this inequity finally ends in residency application, so the remaining disadvantage would be whites having greater mastery of English skill and some stealthy favoritism.
2 totally believable stories. I'm pretty sure you have a few other friends that landed jobs as investment bankers and consultants right out of college too, huh? Also I bet you know a few people that got 45s on their mcat?
Please share some more stories and amplify your ignorance...
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It is not like URM's take other peoples spots. I am sure schools create additional spots for those applicants.
Even though the applicants can get in with lower GPA/MCAT, they still go through the rigorous medical training and become successful. Not saying they all do, but not all white/asian do either.
Jesus. It's nice to know what some white folks think of us. Its nice to know that they will think that they are automatically better than me just because they're white. And that I must not be as well prepared as them even though I have a 4.0, 33 MCAT, masters degree and 8 years of work experience including owning my own business, clinical volunteer experience and speak 4 languages. But yes, I am sure that the only reason I was even considered is because I'm a minority.
Any URM reading this and getting annoyed, just let it roll off your back. We're gonna have to deal with this through our entire careers. Just be better than anybody when you do get in so they can't say a word to you.
I do not have any harsh feelings to you. You are amazing and exceptional. I also know a hard-working and intelligent URM girl with Summa Cum Laude GPA and 3 publications, so I highly respect her and congratulate her for getting into good schools and winning scholarships.
But not all URMs are talented or dedicated as you or her. Some gained acceptance mainly because they were URMs or pretended to be a URM (read my post above). And yes, these folks did work hard, but every serious premed works hard, and their endeavor was never beyond mine.
Also, I am not white and am Asian. One of my URM friends told me that "asians are smart, so they do not need URM advantage" while she maintained 3.8 GPA while partying at least twice a week and scored 33 MCAT after studying for 2 weeks.
After going through both subtle and overt inequality I underwent starting from college application, I am just happy that this inequity finally ends in residency application, so the remaining disadvantage would be whites having greater mastery of English skill and some stealthy favoritism.
Yeah, I wish they were stories, if they were, then I wouldn't be concerned about this thread or topic at all instead of amplifying my ignorance. I even read the pretentious one's primary app essay and it had full of cliche such as her sick grandma and studying at library. These topics are considered as cliche according to med school essay book and LizzyM. She denoted as "abuela's illness" while she normally calls her father "dad" not "papi." Again, genius!
Again, she had an exceptional maketing strategy by carefully utilizing her genetic and socioeconomic privileges to make up for her lack of dedication and intelligence. And I salute her and would like to learn and incorporate her judiciousness.
so you're trying to flame all urm because of a story of one of your "acquaintances". Please just stop worrying about others, i think you should worry about your own application. There are tons of asians and whites getting interviews and accepted. If you aren't getting any luck then most likely you're application is just as pathetic as your rants.
Thank you so much jdok, can't believe it took this long but whatevs
2 and half pages and OP still hasn't gotten what he asked for?
Jesus. It's nice to know what some white folks think of us. Its nice to know that they will think that they are automatically better than me just because they're white. And that I must not be as well prepared as them even though I have a 4.0, 33 MCAT, masters degree and 8 years of work experience including owning my own business, clinical volunteer experience and speak 4 languages. But yes, I am sure that the only reason I was even considered is because I'm a minority.
Any URM reading this and getting annoyed, just let it roll off your back. We're gonna have to deal with this through our entire careers. Just be better than anybody when you do get in so they can't say a word to you.
So you're trying to flame all URM because of a story of one of your "acquaintances". Please just stop worrying about others, I think you should worry about your own application. There are tons of Asians and Whites getting interviews and accepted. If you aren't getting any luck then most likely you're application is just as pathetic as your rants.
Yeah having a pathetic application would be better, cause that would allow me to improve it. But what if you submit your app, but adcoms won't even open it because you don't have green card or $300k?
On the other side, her "pathetic" application precisely described by my "rants," gained acceptances, and she tells me to become a "better applicant." I didn't know that not having research exp, publication, volunteering for 5 years serving the homeless and underprivileged population, and good numbers makes me a better applicant. Perhaps I should stop working on my first author pub cause it's going to hurt my application.
Video of college student saying don't tase me bro
These are US medical schools that are trying to give spaces to people that legitimately live in the United States. You can't be born in China, raised in India and then try to apply to US medical schools without proper documentation even if you have a 4.0 and a 40+ on the MCAT.
You should just worry about yourself not what she said.....
can't believe you never heard of the search function but whatevs
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Yeah, totally didn't do a search. Did it ever occur to you that I did one and the results (shown above) that came up did not match what I was looking for? Or are you that butt-hurt that anything dealing with URMs turn you into the hulk?
The responses to this thread are grossly pathetic and you all aspire to be mature physician's one day, right??
After reading the replies to the OP's question, it should be bluntly obvious to everyone just why schools have to admit URM applicants with subpar GPAs and MCATs. Your predetermined ignorance towards your fellow SDNrs is the same ignorance that will translate to your future patients (shall an offer of admission be extended to you with you not being URM and all). It is widely known that URMs SUCCESSFULLY complete their medical school education and return to practice in the rural/low-income communities where you would probably refuse to practice. Most of you only volunteer in these communities so that you can write some anecdote in your PS in hopes of gaining an acceptance and then abandon them once youre in.
Why is it so difficult for premeds to support one another without feeling as though someone has stolen their spot? If anyone is being wronged in the application process it is those of Asian descent. White applicants have the upper hand over everyone in this process, yet it is still not enough.
Worry about your own merits instead of concerning yourself with others. If you are not accepted, stop blaming your lack of success on URMs. Dont be bitter because we can get in with lower stats. This is about the only place we can get preferential treatment, if thats what you want to call it (only ~50% of URM applicants are accepted each year). I for one believe that an applicant should put forth the best application possible. Obviously the adcom committee sees something in the applicants that you cant because your judgment begins when you see that they are URM. Grow up and get your lives together.
The responses to this thread are grossly pathetic and you all aspire to be mature physician's one day, right??
After reading the replies to the OP's question, it should be bluntly obvious to everyone just why schools have to admit URM applicants with subpar GPAs and MCATs. Your predetermined ignorance towards your fellow SDNrs is the same ignorance that will translate to your future patients (shall an offer of admission be extended to you with you not being URM and all). It is widely known that URMs SUCCESSFULLY complete their medical school education and return to practice in the rural/low-income communities where you would probably refuse to practice. Most of you only volunteer in these communities so that you can write some anecdote in your PS in hopes of gaining an acceptance and then abandon them once youre in.
Why is it so difficult for premeds to support one another without feeling as though someone has stolen their spot? If anyone is being wronged in the application process it is those of Asian descent. White applicants have the upper hand over everyone in this process, yet it is still not enough.
Worry about your own merits instead of concerning yourself with others. If you are not accepted, stop blaming your lack of success on URMs. Dont be bitter because we can get in with lower stats. This is about the only place we can get preferential treatment, if thats what you want to call it (only ~50% of URM applicants are accepted each year). I for one believe that an applicant should put forth the best application possible. Obviously the adcom committee sees something in the applicants that you cant because your judgment begins when you see that they are URM. Grow up and get your lives together.
Yeah, totally didn't do a search. Did it ever occur to you that I did one and the results (shown above) that came up did not match what I was looking for? Or are you that butt-hurt that anything dealing with URMs turn you into the hulk?
This.
"LizzyM Nude photos"...I literally laughed out loud in the middle of lecture right now and still trying to hold my laugh in. Jesus christ lol!
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Yeah, totally didn't do a search. Did it ever occur to you that I did one and the results (shown above) that came up did not match what I was looking for? Or are you that butt-hurt that anything dealing with URMs turn you into the hulk?
If you actually received rejections from schools you didn't apply to, you must have done something pretty major to piss them off.