URMs?

[jclaude2007]

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I know african americans and hispanics are considered URM? are these the only URMs? who else is a URM? also are south east asians,east asians, south asians URMs?

 

[soccerpunk60]

you really think asians are underrepresented in medicine?

 

[Eyeraki]

"Underrepresented in Medicine Definition

The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) Executive Committee adopted a clarification (PDF, 2 pages - 44 KB) to its definition of "underrepresented in medicine" on March 19, 2004, titled "The status of the new AAMC definition of 'underrepresented in medicine' following the Supreme Court's decision in Grutter."

The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) definition of underrepresented in medicine is:

"Underrepresented in medicine means those racial and ethnic populations that are underrepresented in the medical profession relative to their numbers in the general population."

Adopted by the AAMC's Executive Council on June 26, 2003, the definition helps medical schools accomplish three important objectives:

a shift in focus from a fixed aggregation of four racial and ethnic groups to a continually evolving underlying reality. The definition accommodates including and removing underrepresented groups on the basis of changing demographics of society and the profession,
a shift in focus from a national perspective to a regional or local perspective on underrepresentation, and
stimulate data collection and reporting on the broad range of racial and ethnic self-descriptions.

Before June 26, 2003, the AAMC used the term "underrepresented minority (URM)," which consisted of Blacks, Mexican-Americans, Native Americans (that is, American Indians, Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians), and mainland Puerto Ricans. The AAMC remains committed to ensuring access to medical education and medicine-related careers for individuals from these four historically underrepresented racial/ethnic groups."

http://www.aamc.org/meded/urm/start.htm

 

[135892]

I know african americans and hispanics are considered URM? are these the only URMs? who else is a URM? also are south east asians,east asians, south asians URMs?

Have you ever stepped inside a hospital?

 

[jclaude2007]

The reason I thought asians might be URMs is because I read many profiles on mdapplicants.com who did not have the brightest profiles and still got in

 

[xrevision]

I wish asians were URM... le sigh.

 

[xrevision]

In fact I think asians and caucasians are ORM.

 

[Fibroblastman]

Within the "Asian" category, there are crucial deficiencies within specific minority groups which are unique to various regions. However, in a case like the one sited below, this study only applies to California.

http://pub.ucsf.edu/today/cache/feature/200804031.html

 

[MsKrispyKreme]

The reason I thought asians might be URMs is because I read many profiles on mdapplicants.com who did not have the brightest profiles and still got in

Tons of Asians as well as Whites get into med school with less than stellar stats. In fact, ask some of the physicians you know in the 40+ age range what their stats were.

 

[Livingapparatus]

I know african americans and hispanics are considered URM? are these the only URMs? who else is a URM? also are south east asians,east asians, south asians URMs?

 

[Nobuo]

i know some people who are tibetan, hmong, or mongolian don't mark URM on the application, but having a unique background even though they are considered "asian" still gets them brownie points.

 

[Narmerguy]

The Asian-URM topic has been debated ad nauseum... 😕

 

[zpiff]

Apply ORM

 

[193250]

i know some people who are tibetan, hmong, or mongolian don't mark URM on the application, but having a unique background even though they are considered "asian" still gets them brownie points.

Do you think they should have marked URM, because I think they should have if you count other minorities as URM. It sucks that Asians aren't considered URM, but thus is life.

 

[Greonis]

Do you think they should have marked URM, because I think they should have if you count other minorities as URM. It sucks that Asians aren't considered URM, but thus is life.

Currently (and I think this should be changed in the future), no one can choose to have URM status on their AMCAS application (I believe people should be allowed to choose whether or not they want URM consideration at all, independent of their background). Rather, they put down their ethnicity(ies) and the medical schools determine whether or not URM status should be granted.

Moreover, URM status is not granted to "broad spectrum" groups (such as Asians and Hispanics). Rather, more "finely-tuned" ethnic groups whose populations in the United States are currently underrepresented in health care by medical professionals are chosen. For example, a Mexican American qualifies for URM status because there is a large population of Mexican Americans living in the United States with an insufficient number of physicians "representing" them in the system. Argentineans, on the other hand, do not qualify for URM status because the population of Argentineans in the United States is not considered to be "underrepresented" for its size/patient-to-physician ratio. Both Mexicans and Argentineans are considered to be Hispanic, but both are not considered to be URM's in the United States.

I hope that clears it up!

 

[p30doc]

What about white Jewish males like myself, are we considered URMs? 😉

 

[Lukkie]

South Asians are probably the most ORM, i think i read it in MSAR