Hello I was wondering if anyone has an input regarding the success rate of this program? I recently got accepted to the MSMS program and wanted to get an idea of how many students get successfully admitted to MD vs DO schools.
Hey! Congrats on the acceptance. I'm still waiting to hear back. Right now my status reads "Referred to the College of Medicine." Do you remember seeing this as your status? What does it mean?
Yeah the online database is pretty much useless. I received an email from them a couple of weeks after applying. Make sure you have all your requirements submitted. I would call the office to make sure AND would also inquire regarding your application 🙂
Thanks for the advice! I called yesterday and they said my app was complete. Now the waiting game...
If you don't mind me asking, what are your stats? I really like this program, and I think I'm set on going there IF I get in.
Hi everyone,
I have a dilemna and I'm hoping some of you can weigh in. I am accepted at Tufts MBS program, and at this program. While this is an excellent position to be in, I am VERY torn! I am a FL resident so I am trying to decide if the cost of Tufts will be worth it, or if USF is the better choice for me.
I am graduating with a 3.5 ish gpa and a 27 MCAT (which I am retaking next friday, eek) that will hopefully go above a 30. Extensive extracurriculars, URM. I applied to med school this cycle and was interviewed at two schools but waitlisted, so I'd really like to apply this summer rather than wait until after my SMP year!
If you guys can give any input that would be so great, thanks!
I have a dilemna and I'm hoping some of you can weigh in. I am accepted at Tufts MBS program, and at this program. While this is an excellent position to be in, I am VERY torn! I am a FL resident so I am trying to decide if the cost of Tufts will be worth it, or if USF is the better choice for me.
I am graduating with a 3.5 ish gpa and a 27 MCAT (which I am retaking next friday, eek) that will hopefully go above a 30. Extensive extracurriculars, URM. I applied to med school this cycle and was interviewed at two schools but waitlisted, so I'd really like to apply this summer rather than wait until after my SMP year!
If you guys can give any input that would be so great, thanks!
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IMS or MSMS?
If MSMS I would go Tufts, if IMS then either one is fine though IMS would be better to stay in FL or even USF since most that graduate the IMS program seem to stay in USF.
Thanks for the input, currently I'm wait-listed at IMS so it would be MSMS.
I'm in Connecticut finishing undergrad now so it would be great to go back to the warm weather, but yeah what you're saying makes sense. Still holding out hope for IMS though, I'm just not sure if their wait-list moves very quickly since it is so small.
I'm in Connecticut finishing undergrad now so it would be great to go back to the warm weather, but yeah what you're saying makes sense. Still holding out hope for IMS though, I'm just not sure if their wait-list moves very quickly since it is so small.
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Yeah I feel ya, I got my application deferred to MSMS so I'm definitely rethinking things and seeing what to do. My GPA/MCAT combo is good for DO so I don't think its worth the $$ for MSMS.
But just commit to Tufts and if you do get off the waiting list (someone on here said they got in but defered their acceptance) then just drop Tufts and head to sunny FL.
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I am wondering if anyone knows if this program is already full or if they are accepting people still?
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You can email them. It is rather late but don't fret since this program has a lot of turnover. People are known to get accepted within weeks before starting!
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Thanks. I did email them and their admissions office said they accept and admit student up till their June 1st.
Yeah it is rather late. So is anyone know how long or big their waitlist is?
Planning on applying to Barry University as well.
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what has your experience been like so far in the program? Also, have there been people who have been accepted with a gpa a little below 3.0 (between 2.9 and 3.0)? I would like to see where I stand.
It really doesnt matter which program you go to- you need to bust your but and get good grades in that program, thats all the admissions committee cares to see- other than that both programs are on the same level as far as admissions goes. If you really want to shine, get to wherever program your gonna go to and set up research asap. Get a pub or an abstract out of it, and get great grades and committee's will give u some love.
2nd year med here about to take the boards, had a sub 3.0 gpa, and an average MCAT when I applied to the masters program. Not sure if that helps. Best of luck!
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Hello All,
I recently was accepted to this program and would appreciate any advice or insights. I am currently deciding between this program, St. George's in Grenada, and I have an interview next week at TUCOM (a D.O. in California).
I went to Emory University and planned on going into law or business for the first two years and majored in economics. I had a change of heart and only managed to complete the science courses required to apply to med school by graduation.
Stats:
GPA:3.4
Science GPA: 3.3
MCAT: 34
I currently work full time in a field related to economics in order to pay the bills.
I feel that mainly my lack of a strong connection to science and medicine (and gpa) resulted in my applications being unsuccessful. I have volunteered at an ophthalmology center and a hospital but I do not feel the experiences were very rewarding. I had a difficult time making those experiences sound meaningful during my only U.S. M.D. interview.
I do not intend on taking an additional year between the msms program and med school because I already feel like I am a little late to the party at the age of 24. I guess my questions is, given my situation, will the msms program provide me a solid shot at being accepted to a U.S. M.D. program that starts the fall after the msms program ends? Will the msms program even help if I apply early and med schools have no grades or way of tracking my performance?
Thanks in advance.
I recently was accepted to this program and would appreciate any advice or insights. I am currently deciding between this program, St. George's in Grenada, and I have an interview next week at TUCOM (a D.O. in California).
I went to Emory University and planned on going into law or business for the first two years and majored in economics. I had a change of heart and only managed to complete the science courses required to apply to med school by graduation.
Stats:
GPA:3.4
Science GPA: 3.3
MCAT: 34
I currently work full time in a field related to economics in order to pay the bills.
I feel that mainly my lack of a strong connection to science and medicine (and gpa) resulted in my applications being unsuccessful. I have volunteered at an ophthalmology center and a hospital but I do not feel the experiences were very rewarding. I had a difficult time making those experiences sound meaningful during my only U.S. M.D. interview.
I do not intend on taking an additional year between the msms program and med school because I already feel like I am a little late to the party at the age of 24. I guess my questions is, given my situation, will the msms program provide me a solid shot at being accepted to a U.S. M.D. program that starts the fall after the msms program ends? Will the msms program even help if I apply early and med schools have no grades or way of tracking my performance?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello all,
I was a MSMS student here at USF from 2011-2012 (lecture-based class not online), and I would like to provide some insights to those who are considering this program. Attending this program is a big disappointment to me, yet I will try my best to give you an unbiased comment of this program. This way, you will be well informed of what to expect if you ultimately choose this path. I will start out by giving you my application outcome before and after this program, followed by the pros and cons of this program.
My stats in MCAT, sGPA, and cGPA were 30 (V:10, P:10, B:10) ,3.4+, and 3.7+ respectively when I applied to USF's MSMS program in 2011. In addition, I had three years of undergraduate research, wrote an honors thesis, and volunteered at a ECU unit throughout college. Before attending USF, I applied to 10 MD schools, interviewed at 3 schools, and got waitlisted at 2. I reapplied to the same 10 MD schools after attending USF with my Master's GPA 3.8+ in June 2012 with a new MCAT score (V:10, P:9, B:11) plus 2 new volunteer and 2 doctor shadowing experiences. The outcome of my application this year did not improve, and I scrambled to apply to 4 D.O. programs which I later got accepted into two of them. Overall, I consider this MSMS program as a high risk but low reward program. From my personal experience, since this program has no linkage and is fairly new, even if you do well, your good stats in this program will not stand out in your application. And from talking to MD college admissions after this application cycle, I learned that my Masters degree did little to improve my application since many other re-applicants achieve a 4.0 on their one-year Master's or two-year Master's in public health (MPH). On the other hand, you have a great chance of doing poorly in this program because it is intensive, unfair, and poorly structured. Below, I will give you some facts why this program is unfair and poorly structured.
Many of my classmates resented this program during our second semester. This was due to a combination of more challenging courses and an on-going problem not because students did not study enough, but because there were discrepancies between what was delivered in lecture and what was tested on our exam. Each exam consisted materials from 10 lectures and there were only three exams total for each class. If you bombed one exam, you were basically doomed. Also, many of our professors did not follow their syllabus which was given to us. 50 standard questions on the exams became 44, 45, or 40. Paper based exams later turned into computer exams which had so many glitches that the instructors were unable to resolve. In one instance, about 50 students had to wait for an hour to take the exam because there was a computer glitch. A town hall meeting was held to remedy these issues, and everything started to look promising after the meeting. WRONG. The only thing administrator did was making the exams easier plus throwing in a huge curve at the end to make most students happy (physiology wasn't curved in the beginning but the class average was too low--60ish out of 100 so they finally curved it.) I categorize the aforementioned facts as poor structure of the program because it is still feasible to get good grades if you study efficiently and effectively and utilize the Friday Q & A sessions.
Now, I want to talk about why this program is unfair. During summer semester, because some of my fellow classmates cheated on the online courses: medical ethics and clinical correlation, the program director decided to punish the entire class by replacing our exams with papers. Although the program directors claimed that they have evidence and knew who cheated, none of the involved students faced disciplinary actions. Then, the grading quality for our papers was abysmal--punctuation error,doesn't flow, and need more citations were the only feedback we received on our paper. Later, I found out that a majority of our paper (300+) was graded by a TA whose education background was in education. When I went to talk to the program director about how to improve my paper with so little feedback, I was offered a much higher final letter grade when I had only submitted half of my paper! All of these may sound appalling, but it is true.
Despite the mentioned cons, there are some pros in this program. You will meet many other classmates who share similar situation and goal. I learned a great deal of some fantastic learning strategies from my classmates and friends in the program. Also, some professors are very resourceful and willing to help if you ask them. I got two LORs from professors who taught our classes. Yet, some professors did seem to avoid students and would not do anything to help students succeed. Finally, this program will make you realize that once you select this path, there is no turning around. One of our professors frankly put it "What can you do with Master's in Medical Science? Lecturer at a community college? TA at universities? How are you going to pay back your loans? You got to move forward and get into a professional school." I think his words are so true that made it the most valuable lesson I learned at USF.
P.S. I did not enroll in the Princeton Review offered in addition to the MSMS program at USF. The MSMS program itself did not really help me achieving a higher MCAT score.
I was a MSMS student here at USF from 2011-2012 (lecture-based class not online), and I would like to provide some insights to those who are considering this program. Attending this program is a big disappointment to me, yet I will try my best to give you an unbiased comment of this program. This way, you will be well informed of what to expect if you ultimately choose this path. I will start out by giving you my application outcome before and after this program, followed by the pros and cons of this program.
My stats in MCAT, sGPA, and cGPA were 30 (V:10, P:10, B:10) ,3.4+, and 3.7+ respectively when I applied to USF's MSMS program in 2011. In addition, I had three years of undergraduate research, wrote an honors thesis, and volunteered at a ECU unit throughout college. Before attending USF, I applied to 10 MD schools, interviewed at 3 schools, and got waitlisted at 2. I reapplied to the same 10 MD schools after attending USF with my Master's GPA 3.8+ in June 2012 with a new MCAT score (V:10, P:9, B:11) plus 2 new volunteer and 2 doctor shadowing experiences. The outcome of my application this year did not improve, and I scrambled to apply to 4 D.O. programs which I later got accepted into two of them. Overall, I consider this MSMS program as a high risk but low reward program. From my personal experience, since this program has no linkage and is fairly new, even if you do well, your good stats in this program will not stand out in your application. And from talking to MD college admissions after this application cycle, I learned that my Masters degree did little to improve my application since many other re-applicants achieve a 4.0 on their one-year Master's or two-year Master's in public health (MPH). On the other hand, you have a great chance of doing poorly in this program because it is intensive, unfair, and poorly structured. Below, I will give you some facts why this program is unfair and poorly structured.
Many of my classmates resented this program during our second semester. This was due to a combination of more challenging courses and an on-going problem not because students did not study enough, but because there were discrepancies between what was delivered in lecture and what was tested on our exam. Each exam consisted materials from 10 lectures and there were only three exams total for each class. If you bombed one exam, you were basically doomed. Also, many of our professors did not follow their syllabus which was given to us. 50 standard questions on the exams became 44, 45, or 40. Paper based exams later turned into computer exams which had so many glitches that the instructors were unable to resolve. In one instance, about 50 students had to wait for an hour to take the exam because there was a computer glitch. A town hall meeting was held to remedy these issues, and everything started to look promising after the meeting. WRONG. The only thing administrator did was making the exams easier plus throwing in a huge curve at the end to make most students happy (physiology wasn't curved in the beginning but the class average was too low--60ish out of 100 so they finally curved it.) I categorize the aforementioned facts as poor structure of the program because it is still feasible to get good grades if you study efficiently and effectively and utilize the Friday Q & A sessions.
Now, I want to talk about why this program is unfair. During summer semester, because some of my fellow classmates cheated on the online courses: medical ethics and clinical correlation, the program director decided to punish the entire class by replacing our exams with papers. Although the program directors claimed that they have evidence and knew who cheated, none of the involved students faced disciplinary actions. Then, the grading quality for our papers was abysmal--punctuation error,doesn't flow, and need more citations were the only feedback we received on our paper. Later, I found out that a majority of our paper (300+) was graded by a TA whose education background was in education. When I went to talk to the program director about how to improve my paper with so little feedback, I was offered a much higher final letter grade when I had only submitted half of my paper! All of these may sound appalling, but it is true.
Despite the mentioned cons, there are some pros in this program. You will meet many other classmates who share similar situation and goal. I learned a great deal of some fantastic learning strategies from my classmates and friends in the program. Also, some professors are very resourceful and willing to help if you ask them. I got two LORs from professors who taught our classes. Yet, some professors did seem to avoid students and would not do anything to help students succeed. Finally, this program will make you realize that once you select this path, there is no turning around. One of our professors frankly put it "What can you do with Master's in Medical Science? Lecturer at a community college? TA at universities? How are you going to pay back your loans? You got to move forward and get into a professional school." I think his words are so true that made it the most valuable lesson I learned at USF.
P.S. I did not enroll in the Princeton Review offered in addition to the MSMS program at USF. The MSMS program itself did not really help me achieving a higher MCAT score.
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Not sure about the GPA stats for getting in - how are your test scores? I don't know if they're still accepting GRE's or if they're accepting MCATs only? (When I applied they took both)
Not sure what you'd like to know about my experiences of the program so far - we just finished our spring semester this week. If you wanna know specifics feel free to message me.
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They still accept GRE scores. The minimum is 297 for the program, and I received a 296. So will USF not accept me b/c I was on point below their minimum?
