The only places SGU and UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School rotate together at a hospital are the St. Barnabus Network of hospitals (St. Barnabus, Newark Beth Israel are the main two, I don't think we have any rotations at Clara Maas), and St. Joseph's (not sure if that is in the same network...). These are all secondary hospitals for us, and for the most part are not desirable locations because the experience is very subpar compared to our other options of University Hospital, East Orange VA, and Hackensack (which is attempting to get SGU students and our schools administration is fighting it and is threatening to not allow our residents to teach the SGU students from what I have heard). I personally rotated at NBI for my second month of Internal Medicine (our school, IM is 4 weeks at UH, 4 weeks at one of our other hospitals, and then 4 weeks outpatient...). It was myself, one other student from my school, and then a large group of SGU students, a few NYCOM, and a few UMDNJ PA students. The education program there was poorly organized. Organized lectures were of varying quality (as they always will be) but overall poor, and many of them simply involved sitting with photocopied pages from MKSAP and going over a chapter of 10 questions in an hour and just reading the answers, not expanding on it or making me feel like I was gaining anything over just sitting and studying it myself. The residents were in large part FMG's/USIMG's, and did not offer much teaching of their own. The computer system was circa 1990, students were not allowed to put notes in charts so essentially never wrote notes. The chair of medicine at NBI, I forget his name, is a fairly well known guy (as he likes to point out), but his interaction is minimal and he really isn't a good teacher. Students at my school view it as a punishment to be sent there, and this is a main teaching hospital for SGU. I haven't personally experienced it, but have heard similar things about St. Barnabus and St. Joseph's. Another school that NJMS students rarely (I was the first one in like 3 years) rotate at is St. Michaels, which in my mind, actually makes NBI look good. They both have the same antiquated computer system, but on surgery, they had 1 attending who did any sort of teaching, the residents were farmed from other residencies (Bronx Lebanon and St. Joe's I believe) and were also a mix of IMG/DO. The SGU students, sorry to say, also looked poor when compared to the UNECOM students (which was not necessarily the case at NBI when the students when compared to the NYCOM and PA students...). So yes, RussianJoo, at times the SGU students rotate and are taught with the UMDNJ-NJMS students, and on those rotations we are "taught" by the same attendings, and I have experienced this first hand, which is why I can feel strongly in the fact that if my ONLY clinical experience came from hospitals of that quality, I would be a much poorer student than where I received most of my 3rd year clinical rotations at University Hospital.