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Probably been discussed before, but can't find a recent thread....

I'm just curious about what scores people were getting on USMLE World, and then how you ended up doing on Step 2.

All you have to do is post two numbers...... 🙂

Thanks folks, and good luck with everything!!
 
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TUBW25 said:
You'e misinterpreting what I said. You have to read the bulletin on the USMLE website to understand what I mean. It states that some test centers will be slower to adopt the new format than others so when I say "test center dependent", I mean that some people who took the exam in August and are getting their results early may not have taken the new format. You would know you had the new format because there was a warning before each section informing one that the number of items per section was varied.
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I think the warning is pretty generic. I think I had the warning too, but as I posted earlier, none of my blocks were less than 42 questions.

Epo83 said:
I actually have a friend who called a bunch of test centers and bugged them until he got an answer from one center saying they weren't updating until beginning of Sept so he took his test there....but we shall see if his plan actually worked and he gets it back faster.
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Desperate times call for desperate measures lol.. I'd be so surprised if it worked for him/her.
 
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Hey guys regarding UWSA, anyone know if they update it/change it around from year to year or is it the same test from several years ago (or whenver it was first made).
 
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Just took the USMLE Step II CK today, August 29th and I came out feeling like I got my ass handed to me! I marked 10-15 questions per block. Anyone like to share their experience?

UW (Pass1) = 67%
UW (Pass2) = 77%
NBME 3 = 214
NBME 4 = 217

Resources Used: Step Up to Medicine, Secrets, FA
 
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I took it today as well. The first block I breezed through and know I got every single question right. At this point I was thinking to myself, man, I'm going to do so well. Then.......I share your experience 10-15 per block that I had narrowed down to two answers. And the last block, was the hardest (only 39 questions), and I probably marked 20. I think there was a good mix of short and long questions, like UW, but honestly I probably only had 5 questions that were similar to UW questions. MTB is the other resource I used which doesn't cover a lot of the obscure factoids that were tested on my exam.
Oh well, I'm sure we passed (poster above me).

Best tip I can give to anyone is to save the paired questions i.e. drug ads and research thingy majiggers for the very end. Thats what I did and had 12-17 minutes to try and decipher what they were trying to ask. I'd imagine they would have held me up a lot, and made me rush through everything else if I didn't do it that way.

UW qbank: 65%
NBME3 214
UWSA 2 days before: 242
 
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Any fundoscopy slides on exam these days? I gather from recent test takers that their are whole bunch of soft tissue images.

Could someone please elaborate on types of images displayed on exam?
 
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Hey y'all! Quick question:

I'm taking the USMLE on Tuesday and I was planning on reading through Secrets over the weekend as a last minute review. I've gone through MTB what seems like a million times and I've done UWorld x2, making notes on what I didn't understand. Do you think it would be better to keep doing random UWorld questions and going over explanations or going through Secrets?

Any input would be greatly appreciated! 🙂
 
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At that point, I don't think it will make a difference. I attempted studying the last few days but basically did nothing I felt was useful coming out of the exam.
 
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yungk19 said:
Just took the USMLE Step II CK today, August 29th and I came out feeling like I got my ass handed to me! I marked 10-15 questions per block. Anyone like to share their experience?

UW (Pass1) = 67%
UW (Pass2) = 77%
NBME 3 = 214
NBME 4 = 217

Resources Used: Step Up to Medicine, Secrets, FA
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I took it on Tuesday. Definitely feel terrible about it. Certainly got my ass handed to me and I wouldn't be surprised if I failed. I had not gotten below a 220 on a practice test since I started studying months ago. It is all I can think about and I don't know what I will do if I failed.
 
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cbtk18 said:
I took it on Tuesday. Definitely feel terrible about it. Certainly got my ass handed to me and I wouldn't be surprised if I failed. I had not gotten below a 220 on a practice test since I started studying months ago. It is all I can think about and I don't know what I will do if I failed.
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Hopefully, we have passed and we'll keep our fingers crossed! :xf:I now realize that I made some stupid mistakes and it all the more makes me feel worse, uggh!
 
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I got 230ish on UWSA 2 but then I took the test a week later without much studying in between and now I feel like I failed.

Oh wellington.
 
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I am more concerned if I feel good leaving an exam. I have gotten good at putting the exam in the back of my mind. I knew I didn't do bad, but never thought I would get what I did.
 
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A big thanks to anyone contributing to this thread.

I'm an IMG so I can take step 2 CK before step 1. Is there anyone who would actually suggest this? I can either prepare 8 months for Step 2 or else 3 months for Step 1 and then 4 months for Step 2. I'm still a medical student but in the UK system where our final year is practically step 2 CK information....
 
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mattard said:
A big thanks to anyone contributing to this thread.

I'm an IMG so I can take step 2 CK before step 1. Is there anyone who would actually suggest this? I can either prepare 8 months for Step 2 or else 3 months for Step 1 and then 4 months for Step 2. I'm still a medical student but in the UK system where our final year is practically step 2 CK information....
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mattard said:
A big thanks to anyone contributing to this thread.

I'm an IMG so I can take step 2 CK before step 1. Is there anyone who would actually suggest this? I can either prepare 8 months for Step 2 or else 3 months for Step 1 and then 4 months for Step 2. I'm still a medical student but in the UK system where our final year is practically step 2 CK information....
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Forget UK and start fresh from Step 1. USMLE is an entirely different beast and nothing else prepares you for it.
Also, the basic concepts you form from Step 1 puts you in a much better situation for Step 2.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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OASIS TRICK... i took my exam in august.. its my 3rd week wed,and checked..my permit is no more there.. so is that a news? or still 26th sept will be the wait day?
 
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alpha2020 said:
OASIS TRICK... i took my exam in august.. its my 3rd week wed,and checked..my permit is no more there.. so is that a news? or still 26th sept will be the wait day?
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Did your eligibility end on 8/31? If so, then the trick doesn't work. It will be September 26th (or at least a date later than this week). This week would be my 4th week and my permit is still there because my period of eligibility has yet to expire. Here's to trying to forget about this until 9/26...
 
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LatinGeorge said:
How did you guys feel after you took the exam?
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I felt more frustrated coming out of this exam than I did after Step 1. For Step 1, I felt like the questions I missed were mostly my fault (i.e. if I studied longer, I would have got the question right). For Step 2, however, I felt that most of the questions I missed would not have been answerable even if I studied for this exam for 5 years.
 
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DEdm said:
I felt more frustrated coming out of this exam than I did after Step 1. For Step 1, I felt like the questions I missed were mostly my fault (i.e. if I studied longer, I would have got the question right). For Step 2, however, I felt that most of the questions I missed would not have been answerable even if I studied for this exam for 5 years.
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Hopefully the 5 year, still no answer questions, were just experimental ones! 🙂

I know the UW questions are a bit more revealing in regards to the stem; when compared to the actual test and recent comments here in the thread - since you (and any others) who just took it, did you feel that you haven't seen the topics/explanations from either UW or some other additive resource that you might have used?
 
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visoniama said:
Hopefully the 5 year, still no answer questions, were just experimental ones! 🙂

I know the UW questions are a bit more revealing in regards to the stem; when compared to the actual test and recent comments here in the thread - since you (and any others) who just took it, did you feel that you haven't seen the topics/explanations from either UW or some other additive resource that you might have used?
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Well that's just the thing. For me, unlike Step 1, I felt that I was absolutely familiar with each topic presented in each question on Step 2. UW was a great resource for this. However, I felt like some questions were pure judgement calls. I'm not talking "judgement calls" like does Airway come before or after Breathing in a trauma? I'm referring to questions were even an attending would say "I don't know... I would do almost all of these simultaneously."

For those who haven't taken the test, don't get me wrong. A HUGE portion of this test is very manageable. I'm just dwelling on a handful of Q's here probably.
 
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DEdm said:
Well that's just the thing. For me, unlike Step 1, I felt that I was absolutely familiar with each topic presented in each question on Step 2. UW was a great resource for this. However, I felt like some questions were pure judgement calls. I'm not talking "judgement calls" like does Airway come before or after Breathing in a trauma? I'm referring to questions were even an attending would say "I don't know... I would do almost all of these simultaneously."

For those who haven't taken the test, don't get me wrong. A HUGE portion of this test is very manageable. I'm just dwelling on a handful of Q's here probably.
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I took it today and totally agree with the above.

Overall, much better than Step 1 in terms of content. Sure there were a few weirdo questions that have no clinical bearing, but most did.

I felt like quite a few questions were super obvious presentations with very nitpicky answers, asking you to pick between two things that, in real life, would happen concurrently. Some of the questions were worded very poorly too, such as patient presents with symptoms (dead-ringer for vitamin deficiency) and other symptoms (dead ringer for condition that causes vitamin deficiency)-is the diagnosis: A)vitamin deficiency or B) condition. Completely unfair IMO.

UW and Step Up were most useful for me.
 
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chessknt87 said:
I took it today and totally agree with the above.

Overall, much better than Step 1 in terms of content. Sure there were a few weirdo questions that have no clinical bearing, but most did.

I felt like quite a few questions were super obvious presentations with very nitpicky answers, asking you to pick between two things that, in real life, would happen concurrently. Some of the questions were worded very poorly too, such as patient presents with symptoms (dead-ringer for vitamin deficiency) and other symptoms (dead ringer for condition that causes vitamin deficiency)-is the diagnosis: A)vitamin deficiency or B) condition. Completely unfair IMO.

UW and Step Up were most useful for me.
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I certainly hope that was a paraphrased exaggeration haha. I totally hear you on the concurrently placed answers to decide upon - real world versus standardized test world...

Management and Next Step types of questions make what percentage of the test? Lastly, which Step Up were you referring to?
 
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visoniama said:
I certainly hope that was a paraphrased exaggeration haha. I totally hear you on the concurrently placed answers to decide upon - real world versus standardized test world...

Management and Next Step types of questions make what percentage of the test? Lastly, which Step Up were you referring to?
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Step Up to Step 2. No idea about the %, probably about the same or slightly more than UW.

And I am not exaggerating, without giving away the specifics that was almost a verbatim translation of my q (there were a few others I am sure, but that one stuck out most because it was in my last block). I gave them some 'feedback' about that, though I know they don't care.
 
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4 days left.. 20 pages left in MTB. 60% of UWorld left (def screwed that one) and half of USMLE secrets. chances are i will finish MTB and secrets and maybe another 30-40% of UWorld if i get lucky? taking is the 13th!
 
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ar2388 said:
4 days left.. 20 pages left in MTB. 60% of UWorld left (def screwed that one) and half of USMLE secrets. chances are i will finish MTB and secrets and maybe another 30-40% of UWorld if i get lucky? taking is the 13th!
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My priority would be UW>MTB>Secrets.
I would finish UW first and won't be worried a bit even if I have no time left for Secrets. 20 pages of MTB should take you 2 hours max.
 
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Ok, so here we go.

This was a looong test, but I think that it was pretty doable if you make sure to utilize the majority of your break time. I never did more than 2 blocks in a row and made sure to walk around between blocks as well as do push-ups and body squats to get the blood flowing.

A little background: For step 1, I studied for 4.5 weeks with FA + UWorld and got a 229. For step 2, my school did not give me any dedicated study time so I had to study for it during one of my fourth year rotations. Because I was pressed for time and was generally pretty tired each day, I decided to use DIT + UWorld. DIT helped keep me motivated because I dropped $800 for it. If I had dedicated study time I probably wouldn't have used it, however. At the end of third year I had about 1000 unused UWorld questions. I finished those while going through DIT. This was over a 4 week period in a lighter rotation, so I generally had 2-3 hours to study when I got home from the hospital each day.

Overall I felt reasonably prepared for the test. I echo what many other people said in that the "what is your next step in management" questions were very frustrating. The answer choices for these questions often contained 2-3 options that I considered very reasonable. Often they were options that I would all want to do in a timely fashion and in real life probably could do at the same time, so I had trouble knowing for certain if my answer choice was the correct one. The drug ads and article questions were mostly very easy. Only one was confusing, due to it using purposely vague wording. I'm honestly not even sure what that question was asking.

I had enough time for each question block. I usually finished with 1-5 minutes to spare and that was working at a comfortable pace. I never had to submit a block while still thinking about a question. That said, you have to make sure you keep your pace up because they don't give you a lot of time to dilly-dally. Length of questions were similar to uworld.

The breakdown for my exam was about what I expected, with the exception that I had a TON of pediatrics. I would estimate about 25% of the test was peds. I was probably a little less than that, but it felt like there was a ton. Medicein was 50-60% of the test. Surgery was practically non-existant. OBGYN and psych were represented but didn't make up very much of the test.

My recommendations:
- UWorld is the best source, do as many questions as you can
- DIT was moderately helpful. I needed something to kick me in the butt and keep me going since I was tired getting off of work every day. If I had dedicated time to study I wouldn't recommend it.
- In the week leading up to the test do questions in 44 random blocks in timed format to get your pacing down
 
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So, I took CK last Wednesday and needless to say after preparation for approximately a month plus some due to hurricane isaac, I got my ass handed to me. At times I felt like I knew the right answer and then when I went to choose it, it wasn't anywhere to be found in the answer choices. I was scoring in the 240s on 2 nbme practice exams and 232 on an UWSA but I definitely feel like I would be lucky to match my step I score. In retrospect, the drug ad and even the abstract questions were fairly straight forward. The biggest problem I faced was when i would get a three tiered OB/GYN question and would miss the first two parts of the question because they basically tell you the answer when you progress forwards. *Sigh* Hopefully, I won't have to take it over and now just have to get past CS which is hard to study for when you just devoted a month to studying for CK.
 
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One of my good friends just took the CK a few days ago and he said that it was nothing (or very slightly) like anything he used to study.. UW was still the best tool he thought but the test was very different than the UW questions in his opinion... He also read MTB and SUTM and Secrets and felt they were not representative of the test either..

Did you guys feel the same way also?? I thought UW, Secrets, MTB, SUTM.. were kinda the gold standard of CK studying??
 
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Just took this thing today.

So, I agree with what was said just right above.

I went through UWorld twice, read through Step Up and Secrets.

I felt the the vignettes were a bit more vague, and the question usually ended up being about something I learned/read up on...only it was asking about the next "step" in the pathology, treatment, diagnosis, etc that I really didn't have a clue on.

I've been told mixed things by those who have taken it...some say the answers are usually of a variety enough that you should know which answer is the correct one if you know your stuff. But I felt a lot of the questions regarding "next step in mgmt/dx/tx" were hard to decipher.

There were a good amount of "gimmes" though if you studied hard, so you can expect some of that.

And, as usual, there were a bunch of answers thrown in every so often that I have never even heard of before.

I'm looking for a 240+ on this thing, and now I'm praying I even got a 220.

Bryan
 
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And what is the point of the last 28 questions? Kinda odd that they gave us 60 minutes for 28 questions when they wouldnt give us enough time for the other blocks
 
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NRAI2001 said:
One of my good friends just took the CK a few days ago and he said that it was nothing (or very slightly) like anything he used to study.. UW was still the best tool he thought but the test was very different than the UW questions in his opinion... He also read MTB and SUTM and Secrets and felt they were not representative of the test either..

Did you guys feel the same way also?? I thought UW, Secrets, MTB, SUTM.. were kinda the gold standard of CK studying??
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Right, but perhaps the changes implemented in the last couple of months have turned step 2 into a very different test? When I took it in mid-July, those resources were still quite effective.
 
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Ehhh i felt like I was taking a big ass shelf....alot of gimmes but alot of questions with 3 things in the stem pointing to answer X and a few to answer Y....just gotta go with your gut... I think MTB and secrets were good
 
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Now that 9/15 has passed, there is nothing else to keep my mind off of 9/26. Please hurry.
 
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What day of the week is the last of that week to have your test count for that week (ie to get it in before that weeks Wednesday)? Monday? Tuesday?
 
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Took the exam on Friday and I thought it was a lil harder than Uworld. For starters, the question lengths were longer and the questions were written in a weird way, very unlike UWORLD and KaplanQbank.

Second, I cant just get over the fact that I wasted too much time on easy questions trying to decipher whatever trick I may be overlooking and I feel like shyt right now.

Third, Does anyone know if the questions are real clinical cases? I have this feeling that some of the questions arent real and that they are just a product of someone's imagination and creative writing skills. And NBME seems to have gone to a great length to present the vignettes in such a way that they wouldnt look anything like Uworld. Simply stated, the questions were more vague and more convoluted that Uworld and even the easy questions were so easy that you keep wondering if you werent falling for their tricks. Some of the questions were like 20 lines long, a handful of them longer. Going in I was hoping for a 240+, now I am just hoping I wont have to take this shyt again. This sucks!

Cant believe how many easy questions I got wrong, Is there any way to void the exam after the fact?

I feel like killing myself. FML!
 
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andymurrary

I think most of us (posting on this site anyway) are in the same/similar boat.

I felt like crap after the exam. There's a handful of "easy" questions I know I missed that I normally wouldn't have.

In the beginning, I know I was spending too much time on the easier questions, also looking for any "trick" lurking in a sentence. However, towards the last three blocks, I just went with what seemed right on the "easier" questions, and moved on. This gave me more time at the end of each block.

I never had timing issue with UWorld, but this test really pushed my timing. On 3 or 4 of the blocks, I barely made it out, taking decent educated guesses on the last 3 or so questions.
 
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