My JAG looked at it, and that was the conclusion we came to. It would only apply to people with active service. It would need funding and billets which will make implementing it a very slow process.
twillson said:New version of previously vetoed bill looks like it'll make it to Pres's desk with provision that prior officer's keep rank and pay but do not accrue time in service or grade while at USUHS.
Granting credit for USUHS years could be a huge boost to retention ... but then again, it appears the Navy is happy with sub-10% retention (presumably because retirees are so expensive).
It's too bad they cut out the "credit for active duty USUHS time" bit.
Most USUHS grads I know have no intention of remaining in until retirement unless they already have many years in - which is interesting, since the stated purpose of USUHS is to produce career military physicians.
If they credited USUHS time toward retirement (and not by that convoluted back-end addition scheme used now) that might change. For the average civilian Joe who goes to USUHS and then does 4 years of GME, he's eligible to get out with 15 years served (but only 11 counting toward retirement). There's a big difference between sticking it out for another 5 years vs 9 years to get the retirement benefits.
Granting credit for USUHS years could be a huge boost to retention ... but then again, it appears the Navy is happy with sub-10% retention (presumably because retirees are so expensive).
it appears the Navy is happy with sub-10% retention (presumably because retirees are so expensive).
That doesn't make sense in the grand scheme of things.
It's too bad they cut out the "credit for active duty USUHS time" bit.
Most USUHS grads I know have no intention of remaining in until retirement unless they already have many years in - which is interesting, since the stated purpose of USUHS is to produce career military physicians.
If they credited USUHS time toward retirement (and not by that convoluted back-end addition scheme used now) that might change. For the average civilian Joe who goes to USUHS and then does 4 years of GME, he's eligible to get out with 15 years served (but only 11 counting toward retirement). There's a big difference between sticking it out for another 5 years vs 9 years to get the retirement benefits.
Granting credit for USUHS years could be a huge boost to retention ... but then again, it appears the Navy is happy with sub-10% retention (presumably because retirees are so expensive).
Did any of you visit the campus before applying? It is my first choice, and I was thinking of heading back there during my spring break in March to check it out. Do they set up any tours or anything like that? Thanks...
I don't know of any tours that are set up. You could get the Office of STudent affairs number and ask if they could get somebody for you. I know that if you come the last week of March nobody will be around as it is our spring break. Why did you want to come visit? If it's to look for housing/explore the area I would say it would not be a wasted trip otherwise there may not be much more to see than what you saw interview day. Happy to answer any questions you have.
Thanks for the info. I mainly want to go because I have never been to DC, and seeing how it's my first choice I figured I should check it out. My gf lived there for a while, so she is excited about a little vacation that way as well. My spring break is the last week of March as well. I looked at the academic calendar though and it seems like different year students had different spring breaks? Is that wrong?
Does anyone know how full the class is at this point? I have a late interview, but I'm really hoping to get in.
Why are you waiting til July for MCAT? If you need it to study then take the time, but do your AMCAS as soon as it opens!!!! Do not put it off!
Does anyone know what the chances are of spending the majority of your 3rd and 4th year clinicals in Wilford Hall in San Antonio? I heard a rumor about that.
OK so here's the deal. Yes it is theoretically possible to spend all or the majority of your rotations in San Antonio (most are shared time between WHMC and BAMC). The likelihood of all happening is near 0. The best I have heard of for 8 rotation 3rd year is 6/8 in San Antonio. Keep in mind that two of the six are 12 weeks and the other four are six weeks. Surgery, a 12 week roatation, is one of the hardest to get in San Antonio since everybody wants it and ionly 6 are available at one time. Additionally, several of the roations have peroids of time that must be spent at USUHS.
Fourth year I would again assume is possible but has slim to none chance of all in San Antonio. Fourth year has some mandatory USUHS classes as well, and can very from student to student depending on the number of electives you get.
Bottom line...living in San Antonio for the third and fourth year CAN be done. However, in order to acheive this you must be willing to sacrifice substantial conveniences, and time with your family who live there. You should not start sweating over this until after Christmas of your second year at USUHS though cuz there will be no way to figure out if it's possible or if you want to until you have selected all your third year rotations.
Hope that helps!
Twillson,
Is there a rule of thumb about where the different military residencies are? I am Navy and will be matriculating this August, so I am obviously most curious about naval residencies (assuming I won't do a GMO tour). For example are there multiple locations for Navy surgery residencies or IM or Peds, etc.? OR, does each specialty have just one location?
I was in NJROTC during high school and opted out of NROTC for the college years.
I will be graduating this May and have realized that I want nothing more than to come back from my hiatus to the military (i.e. Navy). I was wondering if I can get any advice with my stats (link below) and likelihood of getting into USUHS.
Hoping for Class of 2013. What's your thoughts?
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=9897
GPA is low in my first two years, due to some personal and family matters. Residence in MA.
Thanks -- Any input is good.
Am going to do MPH program at BU while applying to med school this cycle. (If you noticed, I have an interest in International Health.)
How good is the likelihood of getting accepted off the waitlist?
Also does USUHS give direct acceptances to strong candidates who interview late in the cycle, or are they also waitlisted?
How good is the likelihood of getting accepted off the waitlist? Also does USUHS give direct acceptances to strong candidates who interview late in the cycle, or are they also waitlisted?
Twillson,
Is there a rule of thumb about where the different military residencies are? I am Navy and will be matriculating this August, so I am obviously most curious about naval residencies (assuming I won't do a GMO tour). For example are there multiple locations for Navy surgery residencies or IM or Peds, etc.? OR, does each specialty have just one location?
Hi everyone --
I've read most everything on this thread and some others and have found it useful. (thank you 🙂) I've just joined the forum I wanted to say hello and ask a question that, while trivial, I would like to know more about.
What is student life like at USUHS? How does it compare to civilian med schools?
I know this is vague, but all I'm really looking for are your opinions. I know that medical school is an enormous amount of work, and can be overwhelming, in addition to the military training (+700 hours!) -- so, how do you manage? What is it like? What do you do for fun?
There are so many more important questions (arguable), but why not talk about something lighter for a moment 🙂
Hey howzit board,
I was an alternate last year and then moved up to waitlist. From what I hear, the people originally waitlisted have a good chance of getting in.
How good is the likelihood of getting accepted off the waitlist? Also does USUHS give direct acceptances to strong candidates who interview late in the cycle, or are they also waitlisted?
All depends on the year. I was waitlisted after a NOV 17 interview and got a phone call on MAY 15 informing me of my acceptance. It can move very quickly or not, just depends. Likely it will not move too much until the drop day which is MAY 15, on which day as you may know you must drop any extra held acceptances and declare your choice for matriculation.
I guess I reallly don't fully understand the waitlist process. I have read it over an over from the fliers they handed out, but the numbers don't make sense. For instance, assuming the dates for interview during the year you applied were similar to this year, means that if you were placed on the waitlist after a Nov. 17th interview, they accepted 80-85% of all people who interviewed prior to Nov. 17th. The same holds true for this year. According to the 2012 class thread, people from the Nov. 29th interview date started to be placed on the waitlist. If in fact all 171 places were filled prior to Nov. 29th, there would have been roughly a 80% acceptance of people who interviewed prior to Nov 29th.
If I am way off base here, please get me on the right track. I just can't see how 171 spots can be filled even before half the interviews are conducted.
If in fact all 171 places were filled prior to Nov. 29th, there would have been roughly a 80% acceptance of people who interviewed prior to Nov 29th.
If I am way off base here, please get me on the right track. I just can't see how 171 spots can be filled even before half the interviews are conducted.
Hey
I was accepted unconditionally into the USUSH. I have a feel for the student life and what not, but can anyone speak to the military aspects such as the OBLC, field exercises, drills, etc.?
Thanks in advance!!
Congrats DrViolin on your acceptance. Can you tell us when you interviewed with USUHS? Thanks.
Hey
I was accepted unconditionally into the USUSH. I have a feel for the student life and what not, but can anyone speak to the military aspects such as the OBLC, field exercises, drills, etc.?
Thanks in advance!!
As of October I've been USUHS Army bound. All of my paperwork has been sent to Miss Taylor (with the addendum for the new OBC date).
Has anyone received their orders for any of the branches or know when we should expect them?
For those of you who are committed to USUHS, any thoughts on what you're going to do about finding housing?
Cheers
Try not to break your arm patting yourself on the back there, pgg. Come out of the clouds and come down to the real world. 🙄I say comical because if you didn't laugh at the knuckle-dragging ******s who were lecturing from dog-eared copies of "7 Habits Of Highly Successful People" at a bunch of people who'd already achieved more in life than the instructors ever would, you'd cry.