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I've been peeking at craigslist and have seen some acceptable places, but so many of them are way, WAY out of my budget...please give me hope that I can find a place where I can still keep all my stuff, my kitties, and my husband!


You'll find something. 🙂 There are tons of buildings along Spruce Street and there is also a big posse of vet students out in the Garden Court Apartments (which don't have pet restrictions). Cat friendly is pretty easy.
 
I've lived in East Lansing for the past two years.

Pros:
Lots of bars and a lot of nightlife.
Awesome school spirit. Football and basketball seasons are huge!
Low crime and everyone is super friendly. MSU is like one big family.
Housing is relatively inexpensive. I pay $515/month for a two bedroom, two bath apartment 3 miles north of campus. Next year, I will pay $295 for a four bedroom, two bathroom, about 3 miles south of campus.
Relatively no traffic (as a DC native, I am used to heavy traffic). Some of the main roads can get a little congested at peak times of the day.
Vet school is right next to the osteopathic and human medicine schools.
Lots of places to eat, but the quality is only okay.
Lots of health food stores!👍
Beautiful scenery in all seasons.
Northern MI is only 2.5-3 hrs away and is great for a camping/vacation get away.
Detroit is only 1.5 hours away and has a huge international airport. Also, Lansing has a small international airport that is only ~15 minutes away from East Lansing.

Cons:
Not really a whole lot to do in the immediate area.
Winters can be harsh. Roads are usually cleared pretty quickly, though.
Summers can get hot and humid!
No particularly good foreign food restaurants.
Not very culturally diverse.
Depending on where you live, weekend nights can get pretty crazy/loud/scary.
 
This is why I'm crossing my fingers *very* tightly that I get into Penn! Like DSMoody, I live in the Lehigh Valley area but, unlike DSMoody, I HATE it and cannot wait to move to the city. Bunnity, is your house within walking distance to campus? I've been peeking at craigslist and have seen some acceptable places, but so many of them are way, WAY out of my budget...please give me hope that I can find a place where I can still keep all my stuff, my kitties, and my husband!

To add something valuable to the thread, I lived in Columbus, OH for almost 6 years while my husband went to grad school at OSU. If I weren't tied to this area due to hubby's career, I would definitely have applied to OSU. Columbus is a progressive, interesting, "young" city. There are so many cool little areas in which to live and visit near campus (The short north, german village, italian village, clintonville), there are some great, beautiful but probably not affordable suburbs (upper arlington, dublin), and it's FLAT. In Columbus we would regularly do 50 or 60 mile weekend bike rides. Here in PA I'm lucky if I can muscle through 20 with all of the hills.

Plus, you can be out in the middle of nowhere in no time, if that's your thing. The Hocking Hills, which has great hiking and amazing scenery, is a little over an hour away, and there are lots of cool farms that hold open houses almost every weekend if you're into that sort of thing.

Also, Jeni's Ice Cream. And Ohio State football! 😍

Okay, so I'm biased and I love, love, love Columbus. The bad things about Columbus are that unless you're close to campus, the public transportation is pretty terrible for such a large city. Downtown is a ghost town after 9pm, and most campus joints are full of silly drunken kids.

Also, if you're looking to live in a really nice 3 bedroom condo in a cute little suburb with a garage and a finished basement and lots of nice amenities, let me know...unfortunately, the housing market in Columbus sucks just as much as it does everywhere else, so I've been trying to sell my house for two years! 👎

Yes I live a 15 minute walk from the vet school. There are many many places that allow pets (I am allowed up to 2 dogs and no limits on smaller animals). Once you're at the point of actually looking at places feel free to PM me and I can give you some more specific suggestions on places to live.
 
scb44f- are you going to the game on Saturday? You guys make me nervous :scared:!

Yep, I'll be there! TBH, I don't follow it really closely, I just hope for a good game while I'm there.
 
I'm huge into sports. Luckily, I go to a school that boasts the #4 football team in the country. In fact, a lot of vet schools have ranked football teams right now.

That's exactly what made me think of this actually! I saw LSU at #1 and then realized as I read down scores just how many had vet schools also. I think I count 9 in the BCS top 25 (and 9 in the AP poll?)? Wow.
I'm kind of excited to hear that schools have section with vet students (and I love that your professors are there tailgating, scb44f!)
 
I'm in undergrad, but this is my third year in Gainesville. I love it here!

Food is incredible, and there are lots of cool little shops and independent stores. Lots of chains on Archer and University near the mall, but I stay as far away from those areas as possible. Housing is good, every price range, but if you're from out of town, it's good to get input on the area. A lot of the big complexes are too far away, and there are a couple of areas to avoid.

Very dog friendly. I don't pay any pet rent for a big dog and two cats, and I live in a lovely historic neighborhood that is great for walking. There are several dog parks, and community parks that allow dogs. I can also walk weekly to the farmer's market with my dog and buy things.
I have my horse boarded about 30 minutes away... boarding within Gainesville can be hit or miss (mostly miss).

My main complaint is that it's HOT most of the time. We are just starting to get some lovely weather though!

There are lots of things to do as well. There are some great theaters and plays, a movie theater (that no one ever goes to), a mall, shopping, dining, nightlife, bars, clubs, etc. Let me know if anyone has specific questions!
 
*The vast majority of the students live within about 8 to maybe 10 blocks away from the school. Prices get lower as you move west. Your best bet is probably to live in a house with other students.

A few of the common "I don't like city" comments are a bit exaggerated about Penn.
- Crime is not really a big deal in University city, as in you are not likely to have a violent crime committed against you or even anyone you know if you stay in the general vicinity and are not stupid. Theft can be an issue so keep your stuff locked up. Security is everywhere which is really reassuring. Penn had a big crime problem in the 80s/90s. Those days are long gone.
- parking is not really a problem. There are plenty of spots around (I park 2 cars on the street and have never parked more than a block or 2 away).
- Noise is not a problem. I almost never hear noise when the windows are closed (which is most of the school year). These old houses actually are pretty well built. Undergrads partying is the bigger concern.

As for the food scene..... I am spoiled so I actually am not impressed (have lived in NY, Tokyo, Los Angeles so I have high standards). If you want decent food, you will mostly find it in Center city (which is just a couple stops away on the subway).

Anyway, that is my $0.10

Re: sports... Football is obviously not a selling point here but have to give a shout out to watching basketball games at the Palestra. It is one of the most amazing historic arena's left in the country. You can sit almost right on the court (I actually had front row seats on the floor), and the building shakes for a full house. Big 5 basketball games are awesome.
 
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And pooter, I hadn't even considered the idea of rooming with other vet students to cut costs, but it sounds like a sweet deal. If you don't mind me asking, how exactly did you go about gathering 8 other students?

Facebook is a wonderful invention😀

One of my housemates found the house on Craigslist and went trolling for roommates on our class's FB page. It was a bit of a project getting that many people to commit to living together, but I got in on it kinda late. Plenty of classmates also met roommates on the FB page, though I think we're the biggest group. The school provided us with a list of properties that have traditionally been rented to vet students, so people interested in the same houses could also meet that way. Overall, it wasn't nearly as stressful a process as I was expecting.
 
It's funny how two different people have opposite opinions about the same city. I guess it's a reminder that you might love a place that someone else hates. 🙂

True story! Gainesville is pretty much a love it or hate it town, there are very few people who are in between. I did want to make it known that although I am not a fan of the area, I do love the school. I'm living further away from the school to avoid some of the cons that I listed before (read: undergrad, crime) and home is less than 5 hours away so I can visit on weekends occasionally.

I guess what I'm trying to get across is that even if you hate the area that the school is in, don't knock it because you can make choices to fit your preferences.
 
I'm a Florida grad and second the "love it or hate it" sentiments when it comes to Gainesville 🙂

In undergrad, I hated Gainesville. I lived in a somewhat-sketchy area to try to cut costs, so I didn't feel very safe there (then again, that probably also has a lot to do with the fact that I grew up in a very sheltered/affluent Florida community). I went home most weekends and therefore never really felt "at home" in Gainesville - I didn't develop much of a social network. I hated the heat, hated the overwhelming presence of students, and was in a big rush to get out of that town.

In vet school, though, my perspective completely changed. Yes, it was still hot... and yes, it was still a bit sketchy. But, I did a better job of picking areas to live - an apartment complex off Archer within biking distance of the vet school and later a house in NW Gainesville with a big yard for my dogs. I took better advantage of all of the restaurants and other things to do. And finally, the biggest thing, I discovered the appeal of the great outdoors 🙂 I made a point to try to spend one day a week doing something outdoorsy - whether it was a short walk at Devil's Milhopper, an all-day hike at San Felasco with my dog, biking at Payne's Prairie, etc. I didn't find time to do it every single weekend, but I definitely got my fix most weeks. If I had too much studying to do, I'd take the books with me out to Payne's Prairie - do a short loop on my bike and then sit at a picnic table studying for the rest of the day. LOVED IT. Also loved the easy availability of great day trips... spent many days at Cedar Key, St. Augustine Beach, Guana River State Park, etc. LOVED IT.

I now live in an area that many people consider to have great outdoorsy opportunities, but the availability of nearby parks/trails doesn't even begin to compare to Gainesville!! I miss it sometimes... and would move back in a heartbeat if the veterinary employment options weren't so grim.
 
No one has done Blacksburg, VA, yet, so I'll give it a shot:

Pros:
- Mountain country. Beautiful. Hiking trails, waterfalls, ponds on top of mountains. 'Nuff said there.
- Quaint small downtown. Many bars (this may be a minus for some).
-Not as humid as the South's Atlantic Coast (I'm from DC). The elevation means the winters are a bit colder than the surrounding areas, which isn't too bad. It does get VERY WINDY & rainy pretty frequently.
- Several independent non-Starbucks coffee shops, 2 Co-ops that offer organic and bulk foods, an international market, and cheap gas ($3.05/gallon with my Kroger card at the moment).
- Friendly small-town vibe. Blacksburg isn't as stuffy as Charlottesville (no offense to those from UVA).
- Cheap. My share of a 3-BR house (more like 4-BR, but we have 4 dogs and a cat and lots of stuff) is $378/month. Food is cheap. Gas is cheap (see above).
- Barely any crime.

Cons:
- One Indian restaurant. One Thai restaurant. They're both only OK.
- *This may be a pro for some* FOOTBALL. VT goes nuts on game day. Drunks all over the place, no places to park, loud, out-of-towners who drove to the game in RVs crowd all the restaurants and coffee shops. It's just very inconvenient.
- Besides the foreign engineering students, not a whole lot of diversity.
- Getting to DC takes 4.5 hours and I-81 can be a nightmare.
 
Avoiding work like the plague, so thought I would add a bit to 'Mad Town' as a native East Coaster. Breenie and Bacci have already spoken of the highlights such as the Farmer's Market, good sized city and some of the parking stuff. But, here's a little more...

I grew up outside of NYC; and have lived/worked in DC and Philly. But, the greatest place I ever lived was Madison, WI. I simply loved it there and would go back in a heart beat (and yes, I applied). However, the love affair didn't happen overnight... As a 'city dweller' it took me a bit to get over the friendly slower pace of the city. For months they all told me I talked and walked too fast. :laugh: But after a couple of months I settled in nicely and I still consider it my home away from home.

The city itself is absolutely beautiful (always say it was the most beautiful place I ever lived) and is situated on an isthmus flanked by lakes Mendota and Monona. The lakes are hopping places... Sailing, the UW Union Terrace that overlooks the bays of Lake Mendota (and yes, drinking beer and watching the boats go by is a MUST), and several events such as Kites On Ice are native to Madison alone. Also, when the ice fishing shacks start to dot the landscape in winter it's really quite something!

Wonderful restaurants and shopping a plenty!! And it's really close to Chicago. Thus, if you need a 'city fix' you just hop on 90 and go. Map programs on line will tell you it's a 3 hour drive, but it really isn't. I attended several concerts and other events in Chicago and did round trips all the time.

Plenty of outdoor activities and clubs for them all!! Sailing, hiking, biking, cross-country skiing and snowshoeing are area favorites. They even hold the Iron Man Triathlon in September. It's quite something to see!

Traffic is traffic. As a city dweller, it's really nothing in my opinion; but you really only need to drive if you live outside of the general capital / university area. The bus system for downtown is quite good! But, as already mentioned, parking around campus blows! The parking authority allows 2 hour parking and chalks tires. And they LOVE to tow! Oh, and football Saturdays - forget getting anywhere near Camp Randall (the stadium).

The vet school itself is situated on the far side of campus off of Lake Mendota with the creamery, barns and other 'green' spaces on campus. The library is wonderful (vet school has their own) and there are several other handy resources available to students.

Weather - well, it gets cold. If you're not used to it, a high temp with a negative sign in front of it will scare you the first couple of times; but after about -10 F it's all relative. If you go, get a good coat, good moisturizer and winterize your car!! But, after you make it through shaking the ice sickles off your eyelashes, you're rewarded by spring, summer and fall. The summer is really short and the 'hot' weather doesn't last all that long. Also, thanks to the lakes, the air is always moving!! 4 summers and I never turned on my A/C - just opened up the windows. And fall is so beautiful there are no words.

OK, I should shut up now, you get the point. Madison = 😍
 
Just another perspective on Philly for non-city people. I do not like cities. I grew up in the "boondocks" of northeastern PA and have never been comfortable in this or any other city. The crazy drivers, traffic noises at night (I still have no idea why people feel the need to drive around with their stereos blasting at full volume), and occasional creepy person hanging out in the alley kind of bug me. That being said I live only 4 blocks away from the vet school in a really nice little studio apartment. I feel very safe here and the Penn police are all over the place.(I did see a car with its window smashed in one block over but I'm assuming that they left something valuable looking in plain view and suffered the consequences.) I do pay a rather high rent because I didn't want roommates so that's something to consider. Overall:
-Do I love Philly?
No.
-Can I put up with it if it means going to Penn (which is awesome)?
YES!
-Will I stay here after I graduate?
No. Definitely not!
EDIT: Also, I have yet to find good pizza. What's up with that? I live in the middle of nowhere but we have amazing pizza (to be fair though most of the population in my hometown is of Italian descent). How can I not find good pizza here!?
 
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Just another perspective on Philly for non-city people. I do not like cities. I grew up in the "boondocks" of northeastern PA and have never been comfortable in this or any other city. The crazy drivers, traffic noises at night (I still have no idea why people feel the need to drive around with their stereos blasting at full volume), and occasional creepy person hanging out in the alley kind of bug me. That being said I live only 4 blocks away from the vet school in a really nice little studio apartment. I feel very safe here and the Penn police are all over the place.(I did see a car with its window smashed in one block over but I'm assuming that they left something valuable looking in plain view and suffered the consequences.) I do pay a rather high rent because I didn't want roommates so that's something to consider. Overall:
-Do I love Philly?
No.
-Can I put up with it if it means going to Penn (which is awesome)?
YES!
-Will I stay here after I graduate?
No. Definitely not!
EDIT: Also, I have yet to find good pizza. What's up with that? I live in the middle of nowhere but we have amazing pizza (to be fair though most of the population in my hometown is of Italian descent). How can I not find good pizza here!?
i went to Penn for undergrad, and i TOTALLY agree about the pizza. i got sick of ordering allegro's all the time, but places like university city pizza or wherever else sells pizza in the area is not very good either...sometimes i prefer papa johns over the pizza in philly. which considering the diversity and wide variety of foods you can find in philly, is surprising. UC has some decent chinese/thai food though, sangkee's noodle house on 36th and chestnut is really good, pattaya on 40th and chestnut is good for thai and a lot of the chinese places have decent food (evergreen for example). beijing is terrible though.

and i totally agree about the food trucks -- don't underestimate them, a lot of them have great food!
 
EDIT: Also, I have yet to find good pizza. What's up with that? I live in the middle of nowhere but we have amazing pizza (to be fair though most of the population in my hometown is of Italian descent). How can I not find good pizza here!?

Can't you tell I'm procrastinating today? :meanie:

I am a certified pizza 'snob' having grown up outside of NYC. The good news is that there are more pizza joints per capita in Philly than anywhere. Some of the best pizza is found out in the surrounding neighborhoods. But they're probably out of the question if you don't have a car. So, here are some suggestions that are closer...

NYPD Pizza (Corner of Walnut and 11th - My favorite Center City spot - especially when they ask 'How yous doin?' when you enter!)

Slice (10th and Federal - thin crust specialty)

Lazaros (Rittenhouse Square - never been, but have heard it's amazing)

And if you're after real authentic pie, have some time, and would like a small adventure... Tacconelli's (Somerset Street in Kensington)

Good luck!! :luck:
 
Can't you tell I'm procrastinating today? :meanie:

I am a certified pizza 'snob' having grown up outside of NYC. The good news is that there are more pizza joints per capita in Philly than anywhere. Some of the best pizza is found out in the surrounding neighborhoods. But they're probably out of the question if you don't have a car. So, here are some suggestions that are closer...

NYPD Pizza (Corner of Walnut and 11th - My favorite Center City spot - especially when they ask 'How yous doin?' when you enter!)

Slice (10th and Federal - thin crust specialty)

Lazaros (Rittenhouse Square - never been, but have heard it's amazing)

And if you're after real authentic pie, have some time, and would like a small adventure... Tacconelli's (Somerset Street in Kensington)

Good luck!! :luck:
I love you, LMMS😍
 
Also Blackbird on South Street - amazing and all vegan.
Savas in Powelton Village.
Colonial on Pine Street in University City.
Dock Street Brewing Co. on Baltimore and 50th.

Also don't dismiss Allegros - the pizza they make for individual orders is way better than the pizza they send to the vet school for lunch talks. Try the buffalo chicken if you eat meat, the Allegro White, and the greek pizza.

You just haven't been here long enough to find them all 😛
 
I love you, LMMS😍

Aw shucks, thanks... 😳 I really hope that one of them works for you. I truly understand how important pizza can be as well as other food types in general. You grow up with something, you never want it to change. For instance, I may adore Madison, but will NEVER eat Chinese food there again. Too spoiled by China towns...

Thus, if end up staying in Philly, at least I'll know where to eat! 😉
 
Geography/city size had a HUGE influence on where I applied. I've lived in both cold climates and small towns before, so I know from experience that they're not good options for me.

I can't stand cold weather -- I don't know if it's Seasonal Affective Disorder or I'm part grizzly or what but when it gets cold I get sluggish and don't want to do anything. 😴 Not a good thing when in vet school! So Knoxville was as far north as I applied. And even that much of a winter intimidates me.

I also dislike small/college towns. Again, Knoxville was my smallest choice. I like a lot of people to meet, a lot of places to go, and not having the majority of the population in their late teens to early 20s (I'm 30 now and that means I'm entitled to Grumpy Old Person status, haha).

A number of vets I talked to did have the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't matter where the school is, you won't notice because you'll only be studying, hahahaha", which was kind of depressing. But I know that I'll want to at least have a lot of take-out variety, even if I never have time to eat in the restaurants themselves! 😉
 
Also Blackbird on South Street - amazing and all vegan.
Savas in Powelton Village.
Colonial on Pine Street in University City.
Dock Street Brewing Co. on Baltimore and 50th.

Also don't dismiss Allegros - the pizza they make for individual orders is way better than the pizza they send to the vet school for lunch talks. Try the buffalo chicken if you eat meat, the Allegro White, and the greek pizza.

You just haven't been here long enough to find them all 😛


Mamma Palma's in the Fitler Square area is delicious too...but also a little pricey for pizza (but they have fancy gourmet-style pizza). 🙂

I'm glad to hear Colonial is good -- I've always been too sketched out by all the bars on the windows (and proximity to the tattoo parlor) to try it.
 
A number of vets I talked to did have the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't matter where the school is, you won't notice because you'll only be studying, hahahaha", which was kind of depressing. But I know that I'll want to at least have a lot of take-out variety, even if I never have time to eat in the restaurants themselves! 😉

All so true.
 
A number of vets I talked to did have the attitude of "Oh, it doesn't matter where the school is, you won't notice because you'll only be studying, hahahaha", which was kind of depressing. But I know that I'll want to at least have a lot of take-out variety, even if I never have time to eat in the restaurants themselves! 😉

Bleh, I don't think so. I had a perfectly normal social life in vet school. I think the whole "studying your life away" thing is overblown. Of course, if you absolutely feel the need to get A+++ in every single one of your classes and are dead set on getting teh most awesum surgery residency EVAH, you'll definitely make a lot of social sacrifices. But I was perfectly fine with my scattering of Bs, even the occasional C in classes that didn't interest me in the slightest, and being able to be a normal person and avoid burnout.
 
Facebook is a wonderful invention😀

One of my housemates found the house on Craigslist and went trolling for roommates on our class's FB page. It was a bit of a project getting that many people to commit to living together, but I got in on it kinda late. Plenty of classmates also met roommates on the FB page, though I think we're the biggest group. The school provided us with a list of properties that have traditionally been rented to vet students, so people interested in the same houses could also meet that way. Overall, it wasn't nearly as stressful a process as I was expecting.

Now I'm actually somewhat regretting not having a Facebook lol. But meh, I have a couple of years to figure it out. Although I'm not entirely big on the roommates thing (had my fair share of gross/annoying types), the low cost factor as well as being surrounded by fellow aspiring vets seems like the perfect living/learning enviornment.

@WhtsthFrequency
Thank you! I was hoping that someone would eventually quell my worries about not having any real free time to blow. Though, I suppose that may be totally dependent on the person, since some may need to study more than others. I'm hoping I won't fall into that category tho haha!:xf:
 
This thread is amazing! As someone that is still trying to narrow down where they want to apply it's great to get some perspective on the different college towns.

I'm curious, are there are any other opinions about Baton Rouge?? What about Mississippi State, Colorado and UC Davis.
 
Can someone do University of Minnesota or University of Illinois?

I'm from Raleigh, so I can give a little insight for those applying to NC State. I applied last year but was rejected at my IS school!

The school is expanding with new buildings, they just put in a large covered parking garage (thank god) and they're going to install a Howling Cow ice cream parlor! DELICIOUS ice cream only available on campus made by the local dairy cows at the vet school. The school is located on the edge of the main NC State campus next to the fairgrounds (literally next to it, students that don't find parking in the garage have to park in the fairgrounds and walk across a busy 6 lane intersection (counting the two turn lanes). Parking permits are RIDICULOUSLY expensive and you have to buy them by the year. I've heard a lot of vet students illegally park until they get their first warning ticket.

Major CONS are the fairgrounds are active year round, and woe to the vet students who must go to school during October when the state fair causes the population in Raleigh to swell and traffic becomes a nightmare around Blue Ridge/Western/Hillsborough streets.

Could be a PRO too though, if you have a horse there are tons of shows that go on all the time. Flea markets, Greek festivals, etc. So there are things to do on the weekends around campus. Around campus has some great hole-in-the-wall eating if you're lucky to find a mom-and-pop stop that you enjoy. Tacos, thai, limited indian. Cary would be the place to go for healthy or ethnic food though. Raleigh is home to only one Popeye's, three Sonics, three Dairy Queens, a handful of Taco Bells. Forget decent Mexican, though I am from Houston orig. and nothing compares 😍

You can basically find your average crappy fast food but there are some gems like Five Guys for burgers, Cookout which has 42 milkshake flavors and is open til 2 am, Hibachi Sushi, Sushi Thai, Sushi Blues, and there's actually some South American food in Durham and Wake Forest (about 20-30 mins away from State). FRESH is also a nice local ice cream place that features ice cream from a local dairy. A place called Seabord's features North Carolinian-southern fare on Peace Street in the artsy cute little safer area of downtown Raleigh. The Pit (bbq) has been featured on Man vs. Food. We have some good bars downtown too. Flying Saucer features tons of beers on tap and something called Rocket Tots. Yes, you heard it. Delish.

Pros:
-Smaller city, decent downtown. Traffic getting worse due to influx of people moving in but it's still nothing compared to Houston/Dallas etc. They are working on expanding 540 around the city in a circle with part of it being a toll road so that should help with the traffic flow. And a recently expanded part of I-40 has also improved traffic flow.
-Pretty safe. We have people who still don't lock doors because neighborhoods tend to be buried in woodsy areas.
-Tons of trees. My Houstonian friends say they can breathe so much better here. The trees are beautiful and everywhere.
- Lots of lakes/outdoor trails/HUGE greenway that spans the city for walking/riding etc.
- It's possible to live on the outskirts of Raleigh and still make decent time to campus. Lots of ppl live in Fuquay-Varina, Apex, Holly Springs and still commute to NC State. In some of the developing towns like those listed above you can find much cheaper housing than Raleigh which tends to average 6-700 for a decent 1 br apt.
-Beach is ok. I'm from Texas so always had warm Texas beaches. Sand is grainy and offwhite, water is frigging cold with nasty rip currents. But I also haven't been to outer banks where there are cute little islands and shallowish water so I can't say much here.
-State Fair may cause traffic problems but it's pretty fun!

Cons
-Not very bike friendly, not much public transpo except for the R-line which takes people around downtown and from campus-->downtown and your general CAT buses.
-Trees. EVERYWHERE. If you're used to flat landscapes the trees might make you feel claustrophobic. NC has a tendency to make you feel like you're driving out in the middle of nowhere when you're actually 500 feet away from a huge shopping center. POLLEN IS HORRIBLE in the spring. It coats everything, stores sell out of antihistamine/decongestants and windshield wiper fluid. I never had allergies til I came here.
-Boring. Not much to do at night, things close up except for downtown, but I'm not much of a downtown hopper. Like the other poster said, not much for out of towners to do.
- Mexican blows. Not much ethnic food. Cultural diversity is low, and yes we still have confederate flags around on trucks driving around. It's easy to forget you're in the south until you hear someone with a western carolina accent.
-You're probably gonna have to commute or park at a stadium and take the bus to school. Housing around campus is cheap but mostly I saw old apartment complexes/duplexes that I wouldn't want to live in. If you're a non-trad student you might want to live further from campus because it's full of silly undergrads.
 
pethuman, have you tried Dos Taquitos yet? It is one of my favorite restaurants of all time...Not far from Crabtree up Creedmoor Rd. There's also one downtown, but the Creedmoor one has better decorations. 🙂 Still may not compare to real Tex-Mex, but it's pretty tasty IMHO.

For non-chain restaurants, Bella Monica is also delicious and pretty close to the vet school (in Olde Raleigh shopping center). For vegetarian/vegan food (and "regular" food too!), I love Irregardless off of Hillsborough St (near St. Mary's). Raleigh actually has pretty good food -- but you're not going to find it at Five Guys or Popeyes. 😉 The Hayes Barton Cafe is another great spot -- sandwiches/milkshakes at lunch are delicious, beautiful cakes, and dinner is yummy too (a little pricey though). NoFo (also at 5 Points) has a fun weekend brunch.

And, if you want real Eastern NC BBQ (pulled pork w/ a vinegar base), you should check out Olde Timey BBQ out Hillsborough or Danny's BBQ in Cary (near Western Wake Hospital). I haven't eaten at The Pit yet, but it sounds yummy yummy!

Also curious about your beach experience? I'm a Wrightsville girl through and through, but it does get pretty packed on the weekends. Can't imagine anyone describing the water in August as "cold" though since it usually hovers around 85 degrees! 😉 Most describe it as a "bathtub!"

And PS - I saw a confederate flag on a truck on the NJ Turnpike (with NJ plates) recently. Racism/poor taste is not just a southern phenomenon....

PPS - I guess I am a little sensitive about my hometown.... 😛
 
Bleh, I don't think so. I had a perfectly normal social life in vet school. I think the whole "studying your life away" thing is overblown. Of course, if you absolutely feel the need to get A+++ in every single one of your classes and are dead set on getting teh most awesum surgery residency EVAH, you'll definitely make a lot of social sacrifices. But I was perfectly fine with my scattering of Bs, even the occasional C in classes that didn't interest me in the slightest, and being able to be a normal person and avoid burnout.

Word. My experience so far. I'm usually kind of tired because I have a lot of non-social "extracurriculars"/time black holes (a horse, mostly, but I work out a fair bit, too), so sometimes I just want to go home and sleep... but the time for me to do social things is there. 🙂

Glad I picked Mizzou, because Columbia has been a really good fit for me. I don't think I'd be as happy if I didn't like where I was (ie, a really urban area like Philly). Vet school itself can be kind of a hassle, but hasn't ruined the rest of my life completely yet.

I've had enough time to notice my surroundings. 😉
 
I made the reverse transition: big city to small town. My neighbor is constantly teasing me about locking my doors and was horrified that I didn't give some guy out in the boonies a ride. And I'm like uh hello. Ax murders are out there.

Also, no football here. I think this is probably the biggest transition I've had to make - I'm a huge football fan, college and NFL, and just a sports fan in general. People don't really seem to care about sports up here.
 
As for the food scene..... I am spoiled so I actually am not impressed (have lived in NY, Tokyo, Los Angeles so I have high standards). If you want decent food, you will mostly find it in Center city (which is just a couple stops away on the subway).

Two words: Le Bec-Fin

It's not exactly in a student budget. But rated as the best French restaurant in the USA? That's saying something!

You're right the food's not brilliant in Uni City itself, but the rest of the city has some great gems. Plus, water ice? Soft pretzels? Those are delicious!

... and make some Chinese friends to bring to Chinatown. Joy Tsin Lao serves 1000x better food when I'm with my Chinese friend's family than my family.
 
... and make some Chinese friends to bring to Chinatown. Joy Tsin Lao serves 1000x better food when I'm with my Chinese friend's family than my family.

So true. My step mom is Chinese. While she doesn't speak any Chinese and was raised in Australia, her family is still very very culturally Chinese. They let her order whatever the hell she wants whenever we go to Chinese restaurants. It's so great.

And clearly she knows how to take advantage of that!
 
... and make some Chinese friends to bring to Chinatown. Joy Tsin Lao serves 1000x better food when I'm with my Chinese friend's family than my family.

Reminds me a slightly funny story..

Last month we went to one of the "oriental" supermarkets and stocked up. When we got to the register, the cashier kept on trying to talk to my wife in Chinese (she is Japanese). Even though my wife clearly couldn't understand, the cashier just kept on talking in Chinese and handing us free gifts. It was really funny. Now we have a stash of chinese juices, cookies and teas.

When I go back by myself curiously they don't give me any free gifts!!
 
Parking permits are RIDICULOUSLY expensive and you have to buy them by the year. I've heard a lot of vet students illegally park until they get their first warning ticket.

I guess this depends on what you consider expensive - ours are about $300 for the year and it guarantees you a parking spot allllll the time (including the State Fair, which easily costs you $10 per day to park). I know at other schools the cost of parking can get up to $700 or more and at some there is NO parking allowed!

Major CONS are the fairgrounds are active year round, and woe to the vet students who must go to school during October when the state fair causes the population in Raleigh to swell and traffic becomes a nightmare around Blue Ridge/Western/Hillsborough streets.

It is really busy at State Fair season, and all of those students who skimped on the parking pass now need to carpool because they are kicked out of the fairgrounds parking. BUT, vet students have Fall Break during fair week (this week!) so you don't have to go anywhere near the complex if you don't want to! 🙂

Boring. Not much to do at night, things close up except for downtown, but I'm not much of a downtown hopper. Like the other poster said, not much for out of towners to do.

Agreed, and I'm not even a city person. I am at a total loss with what to do for fun when my boyfriend comes into town for a weekend. Other than go out to eat and see a movie, there aren't many "tourist-y" things to do.
 
And PS - I saw a confederate flag on a truck on the NJ Turnpike (with NJ plates) recently. Racism/poor taste is not just a southern phenomenon....

Very true. Racism manifests itself in different ways in different parts of the country, and I guess it's a matter of how sensitive or how personally affected you are to the types that predominate in a particular locale. But I think it's fair to avoid particular locations based on what's commonly expressed there. For instance, I would NEVER raise my children around places where people think ching-chong jokes are funny rather than offensive. Does it mean racism towards Asian people in other locations don't exist? Oh hellz no. But that's one thing that I absolutely do not want my children to be exposed to all the time. Of course there will be a few maladjusted kids in any playground who will say such things, but I want my kids to be at a place where their friends will stand up for them rather than laugh along.

As for confederate flags, I don't think I've ever ever seen one in anywhere but a museum in New England or the Bay Area. I Saw them everyday in the TX Hill Country though. So if this particular expression of racism is uncomfortably offensive to YOU, I would say there are places to avoid. (Many would actually argue that the confed flag is about tradition rather than racism, but that won't change the hurt some people feel over it)
 
Agreed, and I'm not even a city person. I am at a total loss with what to do for fun when my boyfriend comes into town for a weekend. Other than go out to eat and see a movie, there aren't many "tourist-y" things to do.

I'm not a big partier or person who likes to go clubbing and I've found tons of things to do in the area - definitely might want to wander up to Durham or Chapel Hill for some stuff (and for a lot of food), but it's not a long ride or anything.

Museums! Natural Science (I work there, so if you come on weekends you might see me ;p) and the Museum of Art are both fun and free. Museum of Natural Science does monthly Science Cafes where you go to a dinner at yummy restaurants (generally Irregardless or Tir Na Nog, both good!) and listen to someone talk about neat subjects, then ask questions. The Museum of Art has biiigg art installations in the outdoor portion, too, and is great if you want to take the dog, walk and chill out. Durham also has the Life + Science museum, which is not free but really neat - definitely kid-themed, but they have bears, red wolves and tons of exhibits that are fun for adults, too.

Downtown has also really been working on making their First Fridays worthwhile to check out. There's also some really good food in downtown Raleigh, although of course it is pricey (being downtown). There's really a wide variety of good food in the area as long as you look around a bit. I don't think anyone mentioned The Flying Biscuit or Neomonde's, which are both favourites of mine that are super close to the vet school.

I think a lot of vet students also ignore things going on on main campus... if you haven't gone to any of the plays or musicals put on by Arts NC State, you're missing out - they're $5 for students and generally quite good. The UAB and IRC also put on events that are often entertaining, like a hypnotist earlier this semester and Girl Talk for FridayFest. There's also a small museum that has rotating exhibits in the student center that students tend to not know exists - and the JC Raulston Arboretum is gorgeous during the summer (and free) right down the road.

If you're the musical/play type, there's the Progress Energy Center downtown, DPAC in Durham and several independent theaters within a short distance that would love your support.

On an opposite note, if you're outdoorsy there's pretty much any activity you could think of that doesn't require an ocean within an hour, and the ocean is very much within day trip distance. ;p Lots of national parks, camping grounds, etc. You can rent tons of outdoor equipment through our gym, too.

I know there's a decent local band scene because I have friends who are into it, but personally it's just not my thing so I can't give suggestions.

Okay... that's probably enough about Raleigh. ;p I personally really like it as a place to live, and if I didn't have ridiculous wanderlust I would definitely consider it as a place to settle.
 
Reminds me a slightly funny story..

Last month we went to one of the "oriental" supermarkets and stocked up. When we got to the register, the cashier kept on trying to talk to my wife in Chinese (she is Japanese). Even though my wife clearly couldn't understand, the cashier just kept on talking in Chinese and handing us free gifts. It was really funny. Now we have a stash of chinese juices, cookies and teas.

When I go back by myself curiously they don't give me any free gifts!!

lol, my bf and I have started making little social experiments out of these things. My bf (Italian/Irish typical Bostonian), my Korean friend who's only here for grad school, and I (Japanese banana) would rotate around and go to different Asian restaurants. Before we went in, we'd make little bets on who the server will speak to, and in what language, and what utensils each of us would get. It's a really fun game actually.
 
Our permits are only like $70 for a year, but I was late today and couldn't find a spot. Grr.

what good is a parking permit if you can't even find parking? that sucks. If that's the case, I would personally rather have them raise parking permit prices enough that fewer cars are brought on campus. I mean, if they have so few parking spots, I'm guessing the school is in an urban enough area that some students (esp UG's living on campus) don't need to drive in?
 
pethuman, have you tried Dos Taquitos yet? It is one of my favorite restaurants of all time...Not far from Crabtree up Creedmoor Rd. There's also one downtown, but the Creedmoor one has better decorations. 🙂 Still may not compare to real Tex-Mex, but it's pretty tasty IMHO.

For non-chain restaurants, Bella Monica is also delicious and pretty close to the vet school (in Olde Raleigh shopping center). For vegetarian/vegan food (and "regular" food too!), I love Irregardless off of Hillsborough St (near St. Mary's). Raleigh actually has pretty good food -- but you're not going to find it at Five Guys or Popeyes. 😉 The Hayes Barton Cafe is another great spot -- sandwiches/milkshakes at lunch are delicious, beautiful cakes, and dinner is yummy too (a little pricey though). NoFo (also at 5 Points) has a fun weekend brunch.

And, if you want real Eastern NC BBQ (pulled pork w/ a vinegar base), you should check out Olde Timey BBQ out Hillsborough or Danny's BBQ in Cary (near Western Wake Hospital). I haven't eaten at The Pit yet, but it sounds yummy yummy!

I didn't mean to insult your hometown!! :scared: You have some good insight there! I'll have to try those places you suggested, especially Hayes Barton Cafe (sandwiches and milkshakes? Yes please!) I think I don't have much of an opinion on the higher-end restaurants because of my restricted budget but I can throw in one...Jibarra, Mexican Restaurant and Tequila Lounge is some pricey but pretty good mexican. (fresh ceviche yum).

I've been here 4 years and it still hasn't won me over yet, but that doesn't mean it's not for some people! My heart forever resides in Austin, I can't help it.

I will plug that I work for a great specialty hospital in Raleigh (biased!) and it has been an amazing experience that's allowed me to rub elbows with NC State's Vet school and residents/interns. They've got a good thing going there and kudos to anyone who gets into NCSU CVM. Congrats applicants!!
 
First some context: I am a New York native who lived in Southern California for ~8 years before moving to Davis for vet school and I've been here for over 2 years.


Pros:

  • Lots of food options.
  • Proximity to Fun Stuff.
  • Bike Everywhere.
  • Easy Commute.
  • Proximity to Airport.
  • Dog Friendly.
  • Farmer's Market.
  • Public Transport to San Francisco.
  • Trader Joe's.
Cons:

  • Not much to do in Davis, itself.
  • Expensive housing.
  • Very Flat.
  • Allergies.
Pro or Con?

  • Small town.
  • Lots of bars!
  • Weather.
  • Shopping is a drive.
  • Lots of undergrads around
There is a FULL list and explanations on Life In Vet School & Tips On Getting In at:
http://sharonostermann.blog.com/2011/10/19/pros-cons-of-davis-ca/
 
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Did you mean to put "expensive housing" as a Pro? I noticed you also did that in your blog, FYI.
 
Good catch! Thanks for that! All fixed now, though that does say a lot about my thought process. I originally put that as inexpensive housing, and then realized that my view-point was very schewed coming from New York and SoCal, so I changed it to expensive housing without changing the category. In the end, though I was happy to move to cheaper place with more room than my 2 bedroom apartment in SoCal, I definitely know that housing here is not "cheap" -- so, in essence, it's all about perspective.

Thanks again!
 
ABout the parking....permits here are something like $160 and it's just means that you get the opportunity to look for a spot. They sell way more permits than they have spaces. It's no bueno.
 
Our parking permits are like $450+!😱 My roommates and I will be taking the bus...🙂
 
Out of curiosity, do vet students at most schools generally have to commute? Those who drive/take public transit seem to be the minority here at Penn, but I realize we're a little different. 😉
 
Out of curiosity, do vet students at most schools generally have to commute? Those who drive/take public transit seem to be the minority here at Penn, but I realize we're a little different. 😉

The majority at Mizzou commute, the minority at UW do. Though I would say a good portion take the bus, but that isn't really "commuting" there because even campus is really large (ie it's super long but not wide), so my lazy butt in undergrad would frequently take the campus bus just to avoid a 25 minute walk to class, even though I lived 5 min from "campus".

Did that make sense? No? Glad I could help. :laugh:
 
I didn't mean to insult your hometown!! :scared: You have some good insight there! I'll have to try those places you suggested, especially Hayes Barton Cafe (sandwiches and milkshakes? Yes please!) I think I don't have much of an opinion on the higher-end restaurants because of my restricted budget but I can throw in one...Jibarra, Mexican Restaurant and Tequila Lounge is some pricey but pretty good mexican. (fresh ceviche yum).

I've been here 4 years and it still hasn't won me over yet, but that doesn't mean it's not for some people! My heart forever resides in Austin, I can't help it.

I will plug that I work for a great specialty hospital in Raleigh (biased!) and it has been an amazing experience that's allowed me to rub elbows with NC State's Vet school and residents/interns. They've got a good thing going there and kudos to anyone who gets into NCSU CVM. Congrats applicants!!

LOL, please don't worry about it. It's kind of one of those things where I'm allowed to make fun of it, but if a non-native does... gloves are off! 😉

Five more local student-friendly suggestions for you: 🙂
- Salsa Fresh out Duraleigh (almost to where Duraleigh hits Glenwood)
- Chubby Taco on Lake Boone Trail (near Sushi Thai)
- Best Chinese food: Red Dragon at intersection of Fairview and Oberlin
- CharGrille - milk shakes and burgers. The closest to the vet school is in the Olde Raleigh shopping center.
- And the hometown favorite for hotdogs: Snoopy's (I've never actually eaten at Snoopy's, but some folks are pretty passionate about it!)
 
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