Waking up without waking spouse?

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My wife is a very light sleeper. I could sleep through WWIII. She's getting tired of waking up with me at 0430. This could be a problem in the long run (If mamma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy). Thoughts on how to wake up reliably without waking her?

Thinking about trying vibrating watch of some variety. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
 
Of course I'd thought of both. We have kids, and she has to be able to hear them in the night. As for sleeping in another room - not a good option in our house. Plus it puts a cramp in my marital style.
 
Of course I'd thought of both. We have kids, and she has to be able to hear them in the night. As for sleeping in another room - not a good option in our house. Plus it puts a cramp in my marital style.
One of this alarm clocks that uses a light?

Or maybe could you rig something with one on those Bluetooth headphones/earbuds to have the alarm go straight into your ears?
 
Tell her to grow up and be thankful that you bring home the amount of bacon you do/will. Pretty sure she can go back to sleep in a few minutes and nothings the matter. Christ people complain about the most insane stuff. "Gosh why do you have to talk on the phone so much?" "well honey, my sitting on the phone enables you to buy all the d*mb **** you want to buy, so what's it gonna be?"
 
Tell her to grow up and be thankful that you bring home the amount of bacon you do/will. Pretty sure she can go back to sleep in a few minutes and nothings the matter. Christ people complain about the most insane stuff. "Gosh why do you have to talk on the phone so much?" "well honey, my sitting on the phone enables you to buy all the d*mb **** you want to buy, so what's it gonna be?"


Damn right. Tired of all these dudes who fear their woman or go to ridiculous lengths to make sure that their girl is pampered.

Tell her to STFU and consider herself lucky that she gets continue to sleep while you go work.

Or better yet, tell her that she should get up with you and get your breakfast and coffee ready.
 
Tell her to grow up and be thankful that you bring home the amount of bacon you do/will. Pretty sure she can go back to sleep in a few minutes and nothings the matter. Christ people complain about the most insane stuff. "Gosh why do you have to talk on the phone so much?" "well honey, my sitting on the phone enables you to buy all the d*mb **** you want to buy, so what's it gonna be?"

🙄
 
My wife wakes up and makes breakfast and packs my lunch. I assume most days she goes back to sleep after I leave, however being that she is in her 3rd trimester with our 1st child, not sure if things are gunna be the same for long...


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We sleep in different rooms.

Took her a little while to get used to (conceptually), it wasn't foreign to me as my parents did the same for similar reasons ... but take 2 light sleepers, and mix in snoring, periodic limb movements, nighttime bathroom visits, a super bright night light, 2 vastly different bedtimes, and 2 different wake schedules... it wasn't conducive to good sleep -> good day. Too many disruptions to the sleep cycle. If one person wasn't getting out of bed in the morning frustrated -- then the other one was instead.

The separate room thing might not work for all couples, or be needed by all couples, but going 7 years strong with this routine and very well-rested for the most part. 🙂
 
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You could try getting 2 twin beds and pushing them together. That way, when you wake up and move, your wife's bed won't move as well.

Or one of those mattresses from the infomercials where they jump on the bed without knocking over the wine glass. 😛
 
Tell her to grow up and be thankful that you bring home the amount of bacon you do/will. Pretty sure she can go back to sleep in a few minutes and nothings the matter. Christ people complain about the most insane stuff. "Gosh why do you have to talk on the phone so much?" "well honey, my sitting on the phone enables you to buy all the d*mb **** you want to buy, so what's it gonna be?"
Damn right. Tired of all these dudes who fear their woman or go to ridiculous lengths to make sure that their girl is pampered.

Tell her to STFU and consider herself lucky that she gets continue to sleep while you go work.

Or better yet, tell her that she should get up with you and get your breakfast and coffee ready.
I'm hardly someone to be a feminist, but why should his wife give a **** that he's a soon-to-be doctor? Bc of the possibility of his future salary in a field he has yet to match into? I'm pretty sure wives (esp. ones that work) want a lot more in a marriage than the pay check you're bringing home. Just ask the neurosurgeons.
 
I am a feminist and i think she should get over it, roll over, and go back to sleep.

If shes complaning about this what is she going to complain about during, sat, intern year?
 
I think the vibrating watch sounds like a good idea. My wife is also a light sleeper but thankfully not many clerkships required such an early wake up time. I also set 2-3 alarms with the first one being a very soft one that occasionally doesn't even wake me up. Usually it works though and then I quickly get up and turn off all the others. So, maybe you could try the same thing with the watch but just have some backups so you don't oversleep.

One thing I've learned from my own marriage is that I have absolutely no clue about the inner workings and interpersonal dynamic of anyone else's marriage. I knew this intellectually before, but not like I do now. So, if OP wants to find ways wake his wife up fewer times, I'm just going to assume he knows what's best.
 
Damn right. Tired of all these dudes who fear their woman or go to ridiculous lengths to make sure that their girl is pampered.

Tell her to STFU and consider herself lucky that she gets continue to sleep while you go work.

Or better yet, tell her that she should get up with you and get your breakfast and coffee ready.
🙄
 
I've found that (for my wife at least) the alarm going off for two seconds and then me stumbling out of bed wasn't actually the issue, but rather it was the five minutes I would spend rooting around in the closet for clothes and my phone and whatnot. So if you're like me, laying out your clothes for the next day in the living room every night would help.
 
Damn right. Tired of all these dudes who fear their woman or go to ridiculous lengths to make sure that their girl is pampered.

Tell her to STFU and consider herself lucky that she gets continue to sleep while you go work.

Or better yet, tell her that she should get up with you and get your breakfast and coffee ready.
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I'm hardly someone to be a feminist, but why should his wife give a **** that he's a soon-to-be doctor? Bc of the possibility of his future salary in a field he has yet to match into? I'm pretty sure wives (esp. ones that work) want a lot more in a marriage than the pay check you're bringing home. Just ask the neurosurgeons.

I mean I don't see what there is to complain about. If I get married and my wife pursues a profession where she has to get up early and it wakes me up, so what? I knew it going in. If it's enough of an inconvenience to me, that I have to complain about it, I just won't marry her. If it's not significant enough for that, then I shouldn't complain about it. Not saying it's all the wife should want, but it's an incredibly trivial thing to complain about. That's what is annoying about situations like this. Instead of looking for a way to make it positive(assuming she struggles with going back to sleep), it's just complaining. How about the wife deciding to get up early with spouse, get stuff done early in morning and then go to bed whenever the spouse does? His schedule isn't variable, her is, at least in this respect.

The number 1 thing that pisses me off is when 1 party b*tches about something, without doing anything to fix the "issue." It's not being a feminist to say she should be upset, that's sexism if anything. She's capable enough to realize that the situation isn't changeable if she wants to keep a healthy relationship dynamic, so she can either a) deal with it b) make lemons out of lemonade. c) leave. I'd never marry someone stuck up enough to sleep in another room because I have to get up early in the morning.

Also the whole " if momma ain't happy BS" is just typical BS. I'm pretty sure women don't hold some amazing power over the family where if they are unhappy about something they get the right to magically make everyone else unhappy. That's just called marrying a b*tch. I'm mature enough to realize that if I'm upset about an issue, I don't crave attention and thus don't need to put that unhappiness off onto other people. Seriously, good luck if you married someone where that saying is true.
 
I mean I don't see what there is to complain about. If I get married and my wife pursues a profession where she has to get up early and it wakes me up, so what? I knew it going in. If it's enough of an inconvenience to me, that I have to complain about it, I just won't marry her. If it's not significant enough for that, then I shouldn't complain about it. Not saying it's all the wife should want, but it's an incredibly trivial thing to complain about. That's what is annoying about situations like this. Instead of looking for a way to make it positive(assuming she struggles with going back to sleep), it's just complaining. How about the wife deciding to get up early with spouse, get stuff done early in morning and then go to bed whenever the spouse does? His schedule isn't variable, her is, at least in this respect.

The number 1 thing that pisses me off is when 1 party b*tches about something, without doing anything to fix the "issue." It's not being a feminist to say she should be upset, that's sexism if anything. She's capable enough to realize that the situation isn't changeable if she wants to keep a healthy relationship dynamic, so she can either a) deal with it b) make lemons out of lemonade. c) leave. I'd never marry someone stuck up enough to sleep in another room because I have to get up early in the morning.

Also the whole " if momma ain't happy BS" is just typical BS. I'm pretty sure women don't hold some amazing power over the family where if they are unhappy about something they get the right to magically make everyone else unhappy. That's just called marrying a b*tch. I'm mature enough to realize that if I'm upset about an issue, I don't crave attention and thus don't need to put that unhappiness off onto other people. Seriously, good luck if you married someone where that saying is true.
Sorry the wife married you, not your career. This, I can do whatever I want BS bc I'm a doctor and you have to cater to me, doesn't work anymore. You can not expect other people to readily sacrifice for your profession, just bc you were ready to. Life is too short.
 
Sorry the wife married you, not your career. This, I can do whatever I want BS bc I'm a doctor and you have to cater to me, doesn't work anymore. You can not expect other people to readily sacrifice for your profession, just bc you were ready to. Life is too short.

It's not for the profession. It's for me. They knew what they were getting into. I have 0 thoughts about physicians being some magical professional where we(really you and hopefuly me in future) have duties and etc. She chose to marry in. If she's a rational person, for a happy relationship there are 3 choices: A) suck it up b) turn it into a positive c) leave. complaining does nothing, it's just pointless. These concepts have nothing to do with the profession being a doctor. If my wife was the person getting up early and she was a teacher, I'd go through this same exact reasoning. I agree, life is too short, so I'm not gonna sit there and b*tch, when I can do things to make it not a bad situation, or just leave the situation entirely. I swear some people just look for reasons to make themselves unhappy. I think complaining in this situation is exactly an example of that.
 
I mean I don't see what there is to complain about. If I get married and my wife pursues a profession where she has to get up early and it wakes me up, so what? I knew it going in.
If your wife worked so late that she was never home and didn't want to "have fun" with you when you wanted, would you be as forgiving?
 
It's not for the profession. It's for me. They knew what they were getting into. I have 0 thoughts about physicians being some magical professional where we(really you and hopefuly me in future) have duties and etc. She chose to marry in. If she's a rational person, for a happy relationship there are 3 choices: A) suck it up b) turn it into a positive c) leave. complaining does nothing, it's just pointless. These concepts have nothing to do with the profession being a doctor. If my wife was the person getting up early and she was a teacher, I'd go through this same exact reasoning. I agree, life is too short, so I'm not gonna sit there and b*tch, when I can do things to make it not a bad situation, or just leave the situation entirely. I swear some people just look for reasons to make themselves unhappy. I think complaining in this situation is exactly an example of that.
Sorry but the layman person who marries a doctor doesn't know what they're getting into by the time they have children they're effectively stuck with you. They can like you bc you're a doctor and bc you're highly educated but it doesn't mean they know what they were getting into. They probably will assure themselves that it will get better (bc you tell them so) and when they see that it doesn't, they will be rightfully ticked.
 
Sorry but the layman person who marries a doctor doesn't know what they're getting into by the time they have children they're effectively stuck with you. They can like you bc you're a doctor and bc you're highly educated but it doesn't mean they know what they were getting into. They probably will assure themselves that it will get better (bc you tell them so) and when they see that it doesn't, they will be rightfully ticked.

I'd say they're dumb then for not finding out and that it's their fault. They are investing themselves into a relationship and didn't understand how it would be? Their fault, which also is backed up by the fact that the average layperson is dumb.

If she worked so late that she was never home and didn't want to have any fun, I'd either deal with it or leave. I'm never going to complain though. There is literally nothing more negative for relationships than complaint in my opinion. It's like anthrax for your relationship I swear.
 
I'm hardly someone to be a feminist, but why should his wife give a **** that he's a soon-to-be doctor? Bc of the possibility of his future salary in a field he has yet to match into? I'm pretty sure wives (esp. ones that work) want a lot more in a marriage than the pay check you're bringing home. Just ask the neurosurgeons.
I'm willing to bet that there would be less divorced neurosurgeons if there were no such thing as alimony.
 
I'm willing to bet that there would be less divorced neurosurgeons if there were no such thing as alimony.

that's sexist.

just kidding, I completely agree with you
 
I'd say they're dumb then for not finding out and that it's their fault. They are investing themselves into a relationship and didn't understand how it would be? Their fault, which also is backed up by the fact that the average layperson is dumb.

If she worked so late that she was never home and didn't want to have any fun, I'd either deal with it or leave. I'm never going to complain though. There is literally nothing more negative for relationships than complaint in my opinion. It's like anthrax for your relationship I swear.

Listen, man. I like you. You generally seem to have some pretty solid opinions on whatever the latest topic of the hour is. And I completely understand where you are coming from and agree with you that, before entering something like a marriage/long-term relationship/whatever, both parties should make sure they have a general understanding of where things are headed in terms of life, careers, kids, finances, etc., and whatever else might go down. Also, couples should make an effort to really only make a deal out of things that matter, if at all - don't nitpick over every little thing that bugs you.

That said, life is unpredictable. Also, sometimes we don't always know the nitty gritty details of what's up ahead (e.g. being consistently woken up at 4:30 am, which, for most people, is an ungodly hour). On top of that, as much as people try to get things "figured out" before delving into a relationship, that just doesn't always happen. In reality, you are often times working things out as you go. And that's ok. Sure, get the big things figured out, but that doesn't mean that you eliminate all possible chances for conflict or disagreement in the future. People don't work that way. Relationships don't work that way. Stuff comes up, and you deal with it. Together.

That often means some form of compromise. And that's not always a sign of weakness or bitch-pampering that you seem to think it is. Sure, it can be. I don't know OP's situation, and as someone else mentioned above it's impossible to intuit the complexities of someone's marriage from a few lines on an online forum. Whipping out the "Well, this is what you signed up for" or "your schedule is more controllable and thus less important than mine" card is a quick ticket back to singledom. Which may be what you want, and that's OK.

To the OP: My wife is a lighter sleeper than I am as well. Additionally, our 4 month old is in our room with us right now. I downloaded an alarm app on my phone that gradually increases in volume (using a non-annoying sound - there are some pretty bad ones out there), but starts off quietly. I'm usually able to catch it before it gets loud enough to wake either of them. The trick then is not repeatedly hitting snooze....
 
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You need to sit down with your spouse and discuss options together. See if they have any suggestions. If you are a heavy sleeper, make sure you alarm can wake you up. They wrist vibrating alarms does not wake me. You do not want to sleep through your alarm. Also I would discuss what intern year will be like once you match and know what field. You may have 80 hour weeks every week. Also you will be working weekends in residency. Talk to your spouse and come up with a plan together. Marriage is a compromise no matter what the professions are. Coming to a board and getting advice from others (who most are not or have not been married) is really not the best idea. What may work in some marriages may not with your's.
 
I'd say they're dumb then for not finding out and that it's their fault. They are investing themselves into a relationship and didn't understand how it would be? Their fault, which also is backed up by the fact that the average layperson is dumb.

If she worked so late that she was never home and didn't want to have any fun, I'd either deal with it or leave. I'm never going to complain though. There is literally nothing more negative for relationships than complaint in my opinion. It's like anthrax for your relationship I swear.

Your comments on marriage and relationships in general just highlight your immaturity. My goodness. "Deal with it or leave"? No, the "complaint" is the first step towards realizing something is wrong, the next step is to talk about it with your SO and come up with a solution together.
 
Your comments on marriage and relationships in general just highlight your immaturity. My goodness. "Deal with it or leave"? No, the "complaint" is the first step towards realizing something is wrong, the next step is to talk about it with your SO and come up with a solution together.

Wait a second, it's wrong that he has to get up at 4:30? Ok so we've somehow morphed someone having a job or education that requires them to do something "inconvenient" for their SO as wrong. Glad we got that out of the way. My solution is to do any of the ABC i've listed twice now. Honestly I feel really bad for you if your "solution" is sleeping in other rooms. Sucks to not have balls.

Carry on, and continue to let women have all the power. Fine by me, as it just makes them want you even less. Next up at 9 " man forced to quit being physician because wife found taking call to be annoying."
 
Your comments on marriage and relationships in general just highlight your immaturity. My goodness. "Deal with it or leave"? No, the "complaint" is the first step towards realizing something is wrong, the next step is to talk about it with your SO and come up with a solution together.
I just can't believe anyone would say, "You signed up for this" to his own wife. No spouse (male or female) deserves to be treated that way. I don't give a **** how much money you bring into the family - using your career as an excuse, is absolutely unacceptable.

I realize that med students/residents/attendings can sometimes live in our own bubbles, but when it gets to the point where you're literally ignoring the complaints of your wife you need to stop. Reminds me of PandaBearMD for a little bit as his wife apparently posted here re: how his habits destroyed their marriage and children. He obviously didn't listen to her. I can imagine him saying to her that she signed up for it and knew what she was getting into. It's any wonder the public thinks doctors are not in tune with them.
 
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Wait a second, it's wrong that he has to get up at 4:30? Ok so we've somehow morphed someone having a job or education that requires them to do something "inconvenient" for their SO as wrong. Glad we got that out of the way. My solution is to do any of the ABC i've listed twice now. Honestly I feel really bad for you if your "solution" is sleeping in other rooms. Sucks to not have balls.

Carry on, and continue to let women have all the power. Fine by me, as it just makes them want you even less. Next up at 9 " man forced to quit being physician because wife found taking call to be annoying."
Ok, I like you, but seriously that statement is starting to sound like someone else here. I'll give you a hint -- he uses a meat that can be found in a delicatessen as a verb. No one said you need to quit your job. But to tell your wife, "You knew what you were getting when you married a doctor" is ridiculous.
 
Ok, I like you, but seriously that statement is starting to sound like someone else here. I'll give you a hint -- he uses a meat that can be found in a delicatessen as a verb. No one said you need to quit your job. But to tell your wife, "You knew what you were getting when you married a doctor" is ridiculous.

I wouldn't actually say that, because if it ever gets to the point where that statement is needed, you're at a big problem. I'd never get to the point of marrying something without being very confident something like this would never happen. That's what people need to understand. It's just annoying the bs that even men themselves continue to propagate. Think about it this way, if a man had this complaint about a woman, what would the advice given be? I can PROMISE you it would not be the same thing most of you are saying. Alas, I see no point in trying to convince anyone of anything anymore.
 
Wait a second, it's wrong that he has to get up at 4:30? Ok so we've somehow morphed someone having a job or education that requires them to do something "inconvenient" for their SO as wrong. Glad we got that out of the way. My solution is to do any of the ABC i've listed twice now. Honestly I feel really bad for you if your "solution" is sleeping in other rooms. Sucks to not have balls.

Carry on, and continue to let women have all the power. Fine by me, as it just makes them want you even less. Next up at 9 " man forced to quit being physician because wife found taking call to be annoying."

Just keep on proving my point about immaturity.

It's not wrong that he has to get up at 4:30. What is "wrong" is the disconnect between the two about the noise of waking up, and it's something they need to talk about and come to a solution together. OP had already received a number of great suggestions ranging from a vibrating alarm clock to twin beds pushed together to separate rooms. Not everything works for everyone, and OP would be better served by talking to his wife about it rather than get advice from SDN from people who have clearly never been in an adult relationship.

And no, this is not about women having all the power. I'm not saying the wife is 100% justified in her complaints or that OP has to bow to her. Men and women should have equal power in a relationship, so both of them need to respect each other's wants and needs when coming to a solution.
 
Wow.... just... wow...

I just can't believe anyone would say, "You signed up for this" to his own wife. No spouse (male or female) deserves to be treated that way. I don't give a **** how much money you bring into the family - using your career as an excuse, is absolutely unacceptable.

I realize that med students/residents/attendings can sometimes live in our own bubbles, but when it gets to the point where you're literally ignoring the complaints of your wife you need to stop. Reminds me of PandaBearMD for a little bit as she apparently posted here re: how his habits destroyed their marriage and children. He obviously didn't listen to her. I can imagine him saying to her that she signed up for it and knew what she was getting into. It's any wonder the public thinks doctors are not in tune with them.

Yeah, just a complete lack of understanding of how relationships/marriages work.

Just because your wife could "suck it up" doesn't mean you wouldn't want to minimize the amount of heartache/annoyance you cause her even if she did "sign up for it". OP came here looking for advice on a very reasonable situation. Being a good husband, he wants his wife to be happy, especially if something as valuable as a new mother's sleep can be improved with minimal effort.
 
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Just keep on proving my point about immaturity.

It's not wrong that he has to get up at 4:30. What is "wrong" is the disconnect between the two about the noise of waking up, and it's something they need to talk about and come to a solution together. OP had already received a number of great suggestions ranging from a vibrating alarm clock to twin beds pushed together to separate rooms. Not everything works for everyone, and OP would be better served by talking to his wife about it rather than get advice from SDN from people who have clearly never been in an adult relationship.

And no, this is not about women having all the power. I'm not saying the wife is 100% justified in her complaints or that OP has to bow to her. Men and women should have equal power in a relationship, so both of them need to respect each other's wants and needs when coming to a solution.

LOL :thumbsup: You go girl. I disagree with your advice, thus of course it's impossible I've been in an adult relationship before. Good talk.
 
I wouldn't actually say that, because if it ever gets to the point where that statement is needed, you're at a big problem. I'd never get to the point of marrying something without being very confident something like this would never happen. That's what people need to understand. It's just annoying the bs that even men themselves continue to propagate. Think about it this way, if a man had this complaint about a woman, what would the advice given be? I can PROMISE you it would not be the same thing most of you are saying. Alas, I see no point in trying to convince anyone of anything anymore.
Someone, PL198. Someone. If a man had the same complaint, you're right I wouldn't tell a woman the same thing bc I wouldn't have to. I know of no woman who would tell her husband, "you know what you got when you married a doctor!" Female physicians sacrifice their careers all the time for their husbands and families, esp. by cutting back on hours so your scenario. It's why there are so many "part-time" positions, a.k.a. "mommy-track" positions in the first place.
 
Someone, PL198. Someone. If a man had the same complaint, you're right I wouldn't tell a woman the same thing bc I wouldn't have to. I know of no woman who would tell her husband, "you know what you got when you married a doctor!" Female physicians sacrifice their careers all the time for their husbands and families, esp. by cutting back on hours so your scenario. It's why there are so many "part-time" positions, a.k.a. "mommy-track" positions in the first place.

lol I absolutely meant someone, I just wrote the wrong word.
 
LOL :thumbsup: You go girl. I disagree with your advice, thus of course it's impossible I've been in an adult relationship before. Good talk.

I mean, you said in a post elsewhere that you graduated HS in 2011. Not that far of a stretch based on your age and your immature view of relationships.
 
Yes, quite the Freudian slip.

I think I was debating the two phrases " I'd never get into something" and "I'd never marry someone," and somehow f*cked up and decided to just take the mean of the two
 
I mean, you said in a post elsewhere that you graduated HS in 2011. Not that far of a stretch based on your age and your immature view of relationships.

stahp, my views aren't "immature" just because they disagree with yours. I expect better from you, come on now.
 
I mean, you said in a post elsewhere that you graduated HS in 2011. Not that far of a stretch based on your age and your immature view of relationships.
I was going to say, his response is likely bc of his age as I believe he's in an accelerated BS/MD.
 
stahp, my views aren't "immature" just because they disagree with yours. I expect better from you, come on now.

I fully respect differences of opinion. But it is MY opinion that some of your comments are very disrespectful towards women and that you lack understanding of the teamwork of a relationship. You can either learn something from a different viewpoint or ignore it and continue on your merry way.
 
I fully respect differences of opinion. But it is MY opinion that some of your comments are very disrespectful towards women and that you lack understanding of the teamwork of a relationship. You can either learn something from a different viewpoint or ignore it and continue on your merry way.
Teamwork would be for her to get over it
 
I fully respect differences of opinion. But it is MY opinion that some of your comments are very disrespectful towards women and that you lack understanding of the teamwork of a relationship. You can either learn something from a different viewpoint or ignore it and continue on your merry way.
I like how "You knew what it was like" or "You knew what you were getting" when you married me, is somehow the go to excuse that physicians can use in all situations. Relationships change over time, people have children, and life events happen. People's marriages aren't static from their wedding day.

It's unbelievably selfish to believe that bc you're a physician, the other spouse should bend their will completely towards you bc you're special. I knew a woman who married her high school sweetheart who was an orthopedic surgeon, and she was telling me she literally had to tell him to stop ordering her to do things, bc he was so used to the hospital where he could tell nurses to do something and they would do it and was used to always getting what he wants.
 
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