Walgreens BS

[wagrxm2000]

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There's always a reason. You may not think it's rationale, justified, able to be articulated or agree with it but there's always a reason. Could be the person has personal issues at home or a psychiatric condition or maybe they can physically only yell. Hell maybe they yelled because they just felt like it.

If you want to get someone to not yell understand what's in your control to try and prevent it. If you can do something different that you are willing to do, do it. If you aren't willing or can't... then deal with it or leave.

Thank you, I'm glad some people get it.

 

[wagrxm2000]

LOL do you even hear yourself? That is like asking what the abused spouse did to deserve being beaten since people in general don't just beat others for no reason. 😛

Completely different situation, the OP already said the sm treats certain people differently. That right there tells you there's something about the OP the sm doesn't like.

Which can be solved.

Heck, but what do I know? Clearly I'm the one that lives in lala land like the above person said.

At least I'm trying to figure out what's going on so I can help instead of everyone else just saying quit or Walgreens sucks. The OP not wanting to say why leads me to believe it might just be him that's the issue. He's already not using the belt correctly, what else isn't being done right? Everyone is always the victim.

I haven't always had the greatest managers during my time here but I took the time to figure that one out and we had no issues. Some are so by the book you just need to do everything as its suppose to be done.

 

[Deja]

Thank you, I'm glad some people get it.

that's not how you worded your answer lol

 

[Lisochka]

Completely different situation, the OP already said the sm treats certain people differently. That right there tells you there's something about the OP the sm doesn't like.

Which can be solved.

I haven't always had the greatest managers during my time here but I took the time to figure that one out and we had no issues. Some are so by the book you just need to do everything as its suppose to be done.

You have a point...That is what I am trying to figure out too..
Can you give examples of what kind of managers you have had and how you managed to get along with them?

 

[BidingMyTime]

Completely different situation, the OP already said the sm treats certain people differently. That right there tells you there's something about the OP the sm doesn't like. Which can be solved.

Well the OP has already said that his manager has a thing for "young girls." Now assuming the OP can't magically transform into a "young girl", the only way for the situation to be solved is for the op to transfer to another pharmacy. And I agree, given everything the OP has said, this is going to be the only workable solution--but it is unfortunate that is the way it is. Because it is NOT appropriate for a manager to yell at a subordinate in front of others, it just isn't. And the DM shouldn't let a friendship get in the way of their doing their job (which should be reminding the store manager about appropriate ways to deal with issues. What the store manager should be doing, is following his corporations rules for documentation of problem behavior--then the pharmacy manager will have a written record of what the issues are and what he can do to remedy the issue. Is using a belt required by Walgreens? If it is, then why isn't the store manager documenting its non-use in writing? If it's not, then there is no excuse for his insisting that it be used.

 

[Lnsean]

Guys....stop arguing with wagrxm2000 aka "Mr. Big Shot Pharmacy Manager Man." He puts rxm in all his usernames..email accounts...tinder profiles. People gotta know! Everything he does is right...you're all wrong. He'll tell you how your situation is wrong based on a dream he had. End this thread already and open a new thread so that we may praise him in his full glory.

 

[Lisochka]

Guys....stop arguing with wagrxm2000 aka "Mr. Big Shot Pharmacy Manager Man." He puts rxm in all his usernames..email accounts...tinder profiles. People gotta know! Everything he does is right...you're all wrong. He'll tell you how your situation is wrong based on a dream he had. End this thread already and open a new thread so that we may praise him in his full glory.

I guess we are not gonna hear an advise from wagrxm... even though he promised us good info... no good info, only criticism...
I don't like when people do that

 

[sosoo]

It all started when I became an rxm, two years ago... The SM would come to pharmacy and yell at me in front of techs. Literally yell. I pulled him aside and told him to stop yelling at me in front of techs once, twice, third time, then I got a DM involved and told him the same thing in front of DM; he did not stop. I called HR. He stopped.

same thing if you are a tech, and you get yelled by pharmacist. call HR, or ethics hotline, explain your emotional distress, hostile work environment, etc., and they will reach out to that m*thrfkr. YELLING is unprofessional, and not tolerated at CVS.

 

[wagrxm2000]

Someone actually thinks I'm going to give them advice after all I get is called out on this thread? Tell me why you are being yelled at and I'll give you advice.

You can say what you want about me but at least I understand there are situations where you can't win even though your boss is being unfair. You deal with it and adapt. If you don't, your life will continue to suck. I'm sorry this is your situation.

You may continue to rag on me if it makes you guys feel better as sad as that sounds.

 

[ldiot]

Someone actually thinks I'm going to give them advice after all I get is called out on this thread? Tell me why you are being yelled at and I'll give you advice.

You can say what you want about me but at least I understand there are situations where you can't win even though your boss is being unfair. You deal with it and adapt. If you don't, your life will continue to suck. I'm sorry this is your situation.

You may continue to rag on me if it makes you guys feel better as sad as that sounds.

I don't know what the feud is about here but he said that the staff pharmacist and SM literally want rid of him, the techs are out of control, and the DM doesn't care. Either the OP is a terrible manager or is surrounded by idiots, in either case I don't see the situation changing. If you fail to establish respect from day one it's very difficult to gain it later on, and some people out there really are difficult to work with, hostile, and/or petty.

 

[owlegrad]

Why would you need to know why someone is being yelled at to give advice? Will the advice pretty much be stop doing whatever it is that you were doing when you were being yelled at? Lol

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[wagrxm2000]

Why would you need to know why someone is being yelled at to give advice? Will the advice pretty much be stop doing whatever it is that you were doing when you were being yelled at? Lol

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Because my guess is when the OP first arrived he did something completely wrong and the sm hasn't forgiven him since. That or the OP isn't doing his job right.

Like I already said, the OP simply wants people to feel sorry for him and we'll never know what he did which is fine but I'm not giving advice until then.

I've still yet to see anyone give advice except saying get out of there which is not advice.

The only advice I could give right now is exactly that, stop doing whatever you are doing. How is that advice either? If I could get some information about the sm, this problem could easily be solved.

Your typical sm only cares about one thing, their bonus. Is the OP affecting that with the pharmacy scores? That right there could be the sole reason the sm hates him. If I could get some examples I could help, otherwise it will simply be stop doing whatever you are doing.

 

[Sine Cura]

If the OP quit, then whatever allegedly wrong is being done, as though that were any justification for unwarranted behavior (yelling), would definitely be stopped. Wut

 

[wagrxm2000]

If the OP quit, then whatever allegedly wrong is being done, as though that were any justification for unwarranted behavior (yelling), would definitely be stopped. Wut

And how long would it take for the op to find another job without having to float? Is losing 30 to 40k per year going from an rxm to a floater worth it?

Is the op's job at risk? How often is this yelling occurring? Daily, weekly? Finally how fragile is the op that he can't handle being yelled at? While I have a good relationship with my sm, we still disagree on things. I don't come on here everytime we have a disagreement, crying for help. Heck my wife probably yells at me more every time I sit in front of the tv watching cnbc instead of doing my chores.

 

[Sine Cura]

I care not to speculate on such things. If you feel trapped in a bad situation, you need to excise yourself from the situation for your own good.

 

[owlegrad]

Because my guess is when the OP first arrived he did something completely wrong and the sm hasn't forgiven him since. That or the OP isn't doing his job right.

Like I already said, the OP simply wants people to feel sorry for him and we'll never know what he did which is fine but I'm not giving advice until then.

I've still yet to see anyone give advice except saying get out of there which is not advice.

The only advice I could give right now is exactly that, stop doing whatever you are doing. How is that advice either? If I could get some information about the sm, this problem could easily be solved.

Your typical sm only cares about one thing, their bonus. Is the OP affecting that with the pharmacy scores? That right there could be the sole reason the sm hates him. If I could get some examples I could help, otherwise it will simply be stop doing whatever you are doing.

Well, he has also been advised to contact HR about the harassment, which I actually think is the most on point advise, if he has actually been yelled at. There is no way a company as large as Walgreens would tolerate a manager actually yelling at employees (assuming this isn't an exaggeration). I admit I am curious about the specifics myself but lets be honest, what could the OP be doing to actually merit being yelled at? The only reasonable recourse would be to file a complaint with HR and document everything for the eventual lawsuit.

 

[PikminOC]

When I did a rotation with Walgreens the store manager did the pharmacy managers annual performance review (per company policy). Let that sink in. What?! How is that possible? In what universe is the front store manager qualified to evaluate a pharmacist's performance???

When I was an employed doc, a social worker was my boss. I'd want to discharge a patient from the practice and she would forbid it.

I'd refuse to prescribe controlled substances, they'd try to force me...

 

[PikminOC]

Salary has nothing to do with it. Don't fall into that ego trap.


Also, high volume store managers who beat budgets can match/exceed pharmacist salaries.


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And store managers don't have the loans, liabilty, and lost opportunity costs that pharmacists have.

 

[PikminOC]

If you don't like it, quit.

Personally I would go nuclear at this point because you probably won't be allowed to transfer nor will you be allowed to step down unless you invoke Walgreens' "open door" policy and somehow get results from that.

If you can't even write anyone up and get them fired, what is the point? Basically **** your ******ed staff pharmacist, **** your store manager, and **** your idiot techs.

Welcome to the world of employed docs

 

[lord999]

Well, he has also been advised to contact HR about the harassment, which I actually think is the most on point advise, if he has actually been yelled at. There is no way a company as large as Walgreens would tolerate a manager actually yelling at employees (assuming this isn't an exaggeration). I admit I am curious about the specifics myself but lets be honest, what could the OP be doing to actually merit being yelled at? The only reasonable recourse would be to file a complaint with HR and document everything for the eventual lawsuit.

Hahahaha...Ah, it really depends actually. Depending on who the area vice president is, that can be tolerated. The one that was over Walgreens Southwest who is now retired openly had a drunken, violent Irishman temperament and the district manger of mine and the first female DM in the company (Phoenix West) also was a piece of work. I actually was on duty at the store where the area vice president threw a Tussionex bottle in a fit of anger and was brought before the AZ Board where the Board president said "You again?" when slapping another probation on his license (Walgreens didn't do anything about it, just adds to the legend). Walgreens lost and paid out lawsuits on the matter in AZ at least four times between internship and licensing and that does not even cover the settlements. And then there was 67th and (Un)Happy Valley where the manager whose house literally was over the wall was removed for misogynistic treatment of his staff pharmacists and techs, and every pharmacist in town was going "Why did it take so long?". I wonder if that Japanese guy is still Phoenix North's DM, that guy, his normal was to shout.

Walgreens is a huge company with all types. No, they don't tolerate it, but they also have a lot more people who do stupid things. My direct pharmacy manager when I was an intern was the opposite, and I didn't appreciate it enough at the time what a difference it was to be treated like a human being and I was a screwup intern my first year. The store manager though was always trouble.

Remember, no margin, no mission. Back then, being alpha was part of the cost of doing business, and I totally can see the old Deerfield people encouraging that out of field management. That kind of ended under Bernauer's tenure, but I remember the "good old days" too well. Today's PR and happy company philosophy is a very different time than us old folks, and it was even more alpha male during Cork's time. I don't know whether I should feel nostalgic or feel disgusted with the past, but it sure was different.

 

[PikminOC]

Hahahaha...Ah, it really depends actually. Depending on who the area vice president is, that can be tolerated. The one that was over Walgreens Southwest who is now retired openly had a drunken, violent Irishman temperament and the district manger of mine and the first female DM in the company (Phoenix West) also was a piece of work. I actually was on duty at the store where the area vice president threw a Tussionex bottle in a fit of anger and was brought before the AZ Board where the Board president said "You again?" when slapping another probation on his license (Walgreens didn't do anything about it, just adds to the legend). Walgreens lost and paid out lawsuits on the matter in AZ at least four times between internship and licensing and that does not even cover the settlements. And then there was 67th and (Un)Happy Valley where the manager whose house literally was over the wall was removed for misogynistic treatment of his staff pharmacists and techs, and every pharmacist in town was going "Why did it take so long?". I wonder if that Japanese guy is still Phoenix North's DM, that guy, his normal was to shout.

Walgreens is a huge company with all types. No, they don't tolerate it, but they also have a lot more people who do stupid things. My direct pharmacy manager when I was an intern was the opposite, and I didn't appreciate it enough at the time what a difference it was to be treated like a human being and I was a screwup intern my first year. The store manager though was always trouble.

Remember, no margin, no mission. Back then, being alpha was part of the cost of doing business, and I totally can see the old Deerfield people encouraging that out of field management. That kind of ended under Bernauer's tenure, but I remember the "good old days" too well. Today's PR and happy company philosophy is a very different time than us old folks, and it was even more alpha male during Cork's time. I don't know whether I should feel nostalgic or feel disgusted with the past, but it sure was different.

They have plenty of money for settlements. drop in the bucket

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

Like usual this forum is overreacting. Are there situations where the store manager tries to control the pharmacy? Sure, but most let their rxm have full control so this isn't that big of a deal.

The rxm and sm should be working together and communicating regularly. Whenever I hear about these situations its due to a lack of communication or the rxm really is doing a bad job. I'm not saying you need to be friends with the sm but the first thing you should have done when you arrived was have regular meetings to chat about what's going on and what the plan is going forward.

When it comes to the GED, who really cares. Your doctorate doesn't make you any better then someone with very little education. Your degree is in pharmacy and pharmacy alone, if the sm is trying to override your clinical judgement then there's a problem but they have way more experience running the store.

I'd like to hear some examples from the OP if possible to see if it's true bullying.

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[wagrxm2000]

"2 Walgreenbucks have been deposited into your account for this post, laborer.
We thank you for your continued services in winning hearts and minds for the company.
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It amazes me how so many people hate on a job that pays them well into 6 figures. Things could be a lot worse.

Being someone that "communicates" with the store, there are a ton of employees who are a lot worse off then a pharmacist getting yelled at once in awhile.

 

[CetiAlphaFive]

It amazes me how so many people hate on a job that pays them well into 6 figures. Things could be a lot worse.

Being someone that "communicates" with the store, there are a ton of employees who are a lot worse off then a pharmacist getting yelled at once in awhile.

It's not the job that people dislike about your posts, friendo

 

[radio frequency]

When I was an employed doc, a social worker was my boss. I'd want to discharge a patient from the practice and she would forbid it.

I'd refuse to prescribe controlled substances, they'd try to force me...

That is crazy!

 

[wagrxm2000]

It's not the job that people dislike about your posts, friendo

Yeah I know its the fact they don't want to hear the truth, bro.

 

[mursepharmd]

Like eveything in life, it wont always be fair. There are bullies everywhere you go, and they will continue to bully if you let them. Stand up for yourself and give it back to them, hurt them where it affects them the most. Report him to the board for being in the pharmacy without your permission, report it to HR or even file a lawsuit. He will realize that all this hassle is not worth it in the end.