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Date of submission: aiming July 1st
Overall GPA: 3.79
Science GPA: 3.76
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.75
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 23 PAT, 24 RC, 27 BIO, 26 GC, 30 OC, 28 TS, 26 AA
State of Residence: California

Undergrad Attended: University of California, Davis
Major: Economics (BA, Data Analysis Speciality)
Minor: Biology
Minority? No (Indian)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? unconventional major I've been told, 3rd year applying for no gap year path

Shadowing Experience: around 400 hours over a year at one private practice with 2 Pediatric dentists, 2 GPs, and 1 orthodontist (roughly 200 hours of Pediatric Dentistry, 150 hours of General, and 50 hours of Ortho)
Volunteering Experience: around 150-200 hours through multiple facets in my local area (American Red Cross, food bank shift lead at my university [majority of my time], preventative care fundraising, tree-planting)
Research: 1 year ~200 hours doing research in the Materials Science and Engineering department, stopping this summer
Other Extracurriculars: 2 religious / ethnic clubs, 1 community club, 1 preventative care club that I'll be the Secretary for next year, pre-dental society. Also, teach Physics as a Learning Assistant (roughly 70 hours over 20 weeks), most if not all activities ongoing next year
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's List 2 times, scholarship exemplary volunteer award
LOR type and strength: 2 Pediatric specialist dentists (strong), 1 Physics professor (strong), 1 Biochemistry professor (good / average)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: Don't know if its weird to get 2 pediatric specialists for both LORs from dentists -- looking for input on that
School list: I need help here, am a California resident, sort've lost deciding where to apply besides CA schools, should I be applying to more?
-UCLA
-UCSF
-WesternU
-UOP
-USC
-Michigan
-UPenn
-Roseman
-Pitt
-Washington
-Columbia

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Date of submission: aiming July 1st
Overall GPA: 3.80
Science GPA: 3.72
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.70
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 23 PAT, 24 RC, 27 BIO, 26 GC, 30 OC, 28 TS, 26 AA
State of Residence: California

Undergrad Attended: University of California, Davis
Major: Economics (BA, Data Analysis Speciality)
Minor: Biology
Minority? No (Indian)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? unconventional major I've been told, 3rd year applying for no gap year path

Shadowing Experience: around 400 hours over a year at one private practice with 2 Pediatric dentists, 2 GPs, and 1 orthodontist (roughly 200 hours of Pediatric Dentistry, 150 hours of General, and 50 hours of Ortho)
Volunteering Experience: around 150-200 hours through multiple facets in my local area (American Red Cross, food bank shift lead at my university [majority of my time], preventative care fundraising, tree-planting)
Research: 1 year ~200 hours doing research in the Materials Science and Engineering department, stopping this summer
Other Extracurriculars: 2 religious / ethnic clubs, 1 community club, 1 preventative care club that I'll be the Secretary for next year, pre-dental society. Also, teach Physics as a Learning Assistant (roughly 70 hours over 20 weeks), most if not all activities ongoing next year
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean's List 2 times, scholarship exemplary volunteer award
LOR type and strength: 2 Pediatric specialist dentists (strong), 1 Physics professor (strong), 1 Biochemistry professor (good / average)
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: Don't know if its weird to get 2 pediatric specialists for both LORs from dentists -- looking for input on that
School list: I need help here, am a California resident, sort've lost deciding where to apply besides CA schools, should I be applying to more?
-UCLA
-UCSF
-WesternU
-UOP
-USC
-Michigan
-UPenn
-Roseman
-Pitt
-Washington
wait, you've applied twice previously?
oh, you are a junior applying for no gap year, got it...

why upitt?
 
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Pitt and Michigan are probably the 2 that stand out the most to me. I'm assuming you're applying to MI bc it's "ranked" #1. However, they're fairly strict on OOS students being that they're a state school. A quick peek at the ADEA guide for CO2026 tells me MI had 8 students enrolled from CA in their class of 108. So it's certainly possible, but I guarantee that you will be asked "Why Us? When CA has 6 dental schools you could pick from". So just make sure you do the research on the school if extended an interview.

You could look into UNLV (offers IS after 1 year) and closer to you than Pitt, as well as MW-AZ or Asdoh as a safety.

I think overall your list is fine. Focus on CA schools, that's 5 of them there. Then maybe add 4-5 more schools if you'd like, maybe 1/2 being safetys and 1-2 being reaches, and maybe 0-1 being in-range schools. With your stats majority will be either "safetys" or in range. However being from CA, with 6 schools available to you as a resident, schools may be hesitant as you have some top schools in the state. So make sure you apply to schools where you meet their mission statements.

Last thing, I honestly don't think you need 2 peds dentist LORs. One is more than enough, and if they were a GP, that would be better (Dental schools produce general dentists, not specialists. But if they can speak to your personality and write a solid letter then they're fine). I would see if you could get a letter quickly from a volunteer role or your PI/Supervisor for your research. That will cover more ground from schools. I recommend the typical 2 sci, 1 supervisor(research, volunteer, or Job), and 1 dentist/nonsci prof. Usually, that'll cover 95% of all requirements. Or a committee letter would do as well.

Good luck this cycle! July 1 is still plenty early for apps submission. Once submitted, start prepping for interviews using SDN's interview prep links which can be found on each school's forum page!
 
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I would check on the OOS stats for UWashington. You probably would get some attention from UW given your high DAT and very strong sGPA (since you have that unconventional major), but you need to show mission fit especially with activities to increase your odds. For example: RIDE .
 
I would check on the OOS stats for UWashington. You probably would get some attention from UW given your high DAT and very strong sGPA (since you have that unconventional major), but you need to show mission fit especially with activities to increase your odds. For example: RIDE .
Is this a scholarship program? I'm involved in numerous activities.
 
there are cheaper schools in better areas that are closer to california than upitt..
Do you have any suggestions? I am unsure, truly I chose Pitt because of a trip I had to Pittsburgh once. Loved that town!
 
Pitt and Michigan are probably the 2 that stand out the most to me. I'm assuming you're applying to MI bc it's "ranked" #1. However, they're fairly strict on OOS students being that they're a state school. A quick peek at the ADEA guide for CO2026 tells me MI had 8 students enrolled from CA in their class of 108. So it's certainly possible, but I guarantee that you will be asked "Why Us? When CA has 6 dental schools you could pick from". So just make sure you do the research on the school if extended an interview.

You could look into UNLV (offers IS after 1 year) and closer to you than Pitt, as well as MW-AZ or Asdoh as a safety.

I think overall your list is fine. Focus on CA schools, that's 5 of them there. Then maybe add 4-5 more schools if you'd like, maybe 1/2 being safetys and 1-2 being reaches, and maybe 0-1 being in-range schools. With your stats majority will be either "safetys" or in range. However being from CA, with 6 schools available to you as a resident, schools may be hesitant as you have some top schools in the state. So make sure you apply to schools where you meet their mission statements.

Last thing, I honestly don't think you need 2 peds dentist LORs. One is more than enough, and if they were a GP, that would be better (Dental schools produce general dentists, not specialists. But if they can speak to your personality and write a solid letter then they're fine). I would see if you could get a letter quickly from a volunteer role or your PI/Supervisor for your research. That will cover more ground from schools. I recommend the typical 2 sci, 1 supervisor(research, volunteer, or Job), and 1 dentist/nonsci prof. Usually, that'll cover 95% of all requirements. Or a committee letter would do as well.

Good luck this cycle! July 1 is still plenty early for apps submission. Once submitted, start prepping for interviews using SDN's interview prep links which can be found on each school's forum page!
Will look into UNLV, haven't heard much about the school tbh. MWU AZ just seems crazy expensive, but will also consider it. I'm sure rank doesn't matter, but does rank necessarily correlate with the amount the school prepares you for practice right out the gate?
 
Do you have any suggestions? I am unsure, truly I chose Pitt because of a trip I had to Pittsburgh once. Loved that town!
please do your own research, you realistically only need to apply to 6-8 schools, depending on how many "reach" schools you have
but i would recommend that you take off western and U$C due to cost and the fact that you are well above their stat range...
 
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Will look into UNLV, haven't heard much about the school tbh. MWU AZ just seems crazy expensive, but will also consider it. I'm sure rank doesn't matter, but does rank necessarily correlate with the amount the school prepares you for practice right out the gate?
no, rank doesn't matter so much in Dentistry. Schools actually aren't officially ranked, to begin with. So where you go to school shouldn't matter so much as each school will prepare you to graduate. There are some schools that have been known to produce dentists that are more clinically competent when compared to other schools, these are questions you could ask during your interview. But regardless, upon graduation, no matter where you go you will be called a dentist and your clinical speed will catch up quickly once officially practicing.

I believe MW-AZ has a solid clinical program. But yes, most schools are going to be crazy expensive unless you get IS tuition. Your main goal should be to get into either UCLA or UCSF for their tuition costs.
 
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no, rank doesn't matter so much in Dentistry. Schools actually aren't officially ranked, to begin with. So where you go to school shouldn't matter so much as each school will prepare you to graduate. There are some schools that have been known to produce dentists that are more clinically competent when compared to other schools, these are questions you could ask during your interview. But regardless, upon graduation, no matter where you go you will be called a dentist and your clinical speed will catch up quickly once officially practicing.

I believe MW-AZ has a solid clinical program. But yes, most schools are going to be crazy expensive unless you get IS tuition. Your main goal should be to get into either UCLA or UCSF for their tuition costs.
Do you think its worth applying to USC for me? I'd rather replace it with another safety school, as I am definitely not willing to stomach around 600k in principal debt.
 
Do you think its worth applying to USC for me? I'd rather replace it with another safety school, as I am definitely not willing to stomach around 600k in principal debt.
If that was the only school that accepted you, would you attend? If the answer is no, then do not apply. I would sub out for another safety. Maybe MW-AZ or ASDOH. Both are still expensive, but not USC expensive. You could look into OHSU as well. Or creighton. Which is probably the "cheapest" private school of the bunch.
 
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If that was the only school that accepted you, would you attend? If the answer is no, then do not apply. I would sub out for another safety. Maybe MW-AZ or ASDOH. Both are still expensive, but not USC expensive. You could look into OHSU as well. Or creighton. Which is probably the "cheapest" private school of the bunch.
I replaced Pitt with MWU AZ. Still considering applying to Michigan, but worried about not being competitive enough for them. Idk enough about Roseman, I am considering removing them.
 
I replaced Pitt with MWU AZ. Still considering applying to Michigan, but worried about not being competitive enough for them. Idk enough about Roseman, I am considering removing them.
You’re competitive enough for Mich but again, they take very few OOS students. So long as you understand that you can still apply. Roseman is a new 3 year program. You can ask @OncePreDent as he will be a D1 very soon!
 
You’re competitive enough for Mich but again, they take very few OOS students. So long as you understand that you can still apply. Roseman is a new 3 year program. You can ask @OncePreDent as he will be a D1 very soon!
Before applying to any school, I would make sure to research it and make sure that you believe that you would like to live in that location and be a good fit for the program. Also, look at how much it costs please.

@Ryxndek We just had our first day of orientation today actually! We went through financial aid and everything, and that was a little rough to see the projected debt from previous years vs projected income (this was low - only $144k; also said OS only make $208k a year).. Can definitely see why some of the legends on here are posting why people shouldn't go to the crazy expensive private programs out there (honestly, all programs crazy expensive).

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Honestly, @dynamo72 might be considered a decent application for Roseman. They typically accept a large number of people from California & Texas as well. I believe we have 1 or 2 people from UC Davis in our program that are entering D1s. Some of your volunteering experiences align with the program too, which is great. If you are interested in Roseman, feel free to PM me, and I can let you know some of the things they would be looking for in your application/anyone's application.
Hint: Roseman University Six-Point Mastery Learning Model®
Also, to warn you, tuition will probably be around $340kish for you. Living will be another $60k if you are living semi-frugally (1 roommate). The interest on our loans for us alone is around $1,200 a month (depending on the person); by the time we graduate, people will have accrued around $36k of interest on our loans. Interest rates are 7.04% & 8% for grad+ (financial aid person thinks next year interest will be even higher). Yikes.

About Roseman:
Essentially, Roseman is a 3-year program that is community and team-oriented (you do everything in teams), block schedule (1 course at a time), P/F school (need a 90% on tests to pass). They don't care a ton about your statistics as long as you meet their minimums (which you do). They care significantly more about who you are as a person & if you would fit in with their program. It's the opposite of a cut-throat program.

My application:
While I was applying to dental school, the biggest thing for me while applying to programs was making sure I was okay living in the location (I didn't apply to NYU, Maryland, Detroit, etc.) solely because I didn't see myself living there. You are a competitive applicant, so you do have a bit of a luxury in choosing schools that fit what you are looking for. However, make sure you have a few safe schools because I've seen people with your statistics or even better that don't get accepted.

Also, don't apply to MWU; way too expensive. Same with UoP & USC. You can maybe argue UoP because it is a 3 year program, but you will still come out with +$500k in debt. I recently was talking to new grads from USC, and the ones that specialized are sitting in around $800k-$1M in student debt. I think you would be close to $600k in debt by the time you graduated from USC with no specialty. I don't think a single soul should apply to USC. Not. One. Person.
 
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I don't think a single soul should apply to USC. Not. One. Person.
A very wise statement. USC projecting >150k/year for the class of 2027. 600k of debt (pre-interest) on graduation is nuts. That number will be closer to 700k with interest, if not more due to rising costs and no regulation. That's ~5k a month for 20 years in student loan payments💀
 
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A very wise statement. USC projecting >150k/year for the class of 2027. 600k of debt (pre-interest) on graduation is nuts. That number will be closer to 700k with interest, if not more due to rising costs and no regulation. That's ~5k a month for 20 years in student loan payments💀
Pray the Federal Reserve doesn't raise more interest rates by next year... pray that student loan forgiveness programs get funded in September and expanded for years.
 
Pray the Federal Reserve doesn't raise more interest rates by next year... pray that student loan forgiveness programs get funded in September and expanded for years.
I’ve been praying since I put my deposit down. The interest hikes are going to rock the class of 2027 and onward if they can’t get a hold of things
 
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Before applying to any school, I would make sure to research it and make sure that you believe that you would like to live in that location and be a good fit for the program. Also, look at how much it costs please.

@Ryxndek We just had our first day of orientation today actually! We went through financial aid and everything, and that was a little rough to see the projected debt from previous years vs projected income (this was low - only $144k; also said OS only make $208k a year).. Can definitely see why some of the legends on here are posting why people shouldn't go to the crazy expensive private programs out there (honestly, all programs crazy expensive).

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Honestly, @dynamo72 might be considered a decent application for Roseman. They typically accept a large number of people from California & Texas as well. I believe we have 1 or 2 people from UC Davis in our program that are entering D1s. Some of your volunteering experiences align with the program too, which is great. If you are interested in Roseman, feel free to PM me, and I can let you know some of the things they would be looking for in your application/anyone's application.
Hint: Roseman University Six-Point Mastery Learning Model®
Also, to warn you, tuition will probably be around $340kish for you. Living will be another $60k if you are living semi-frugally (1 roommate). The interest on our loans for us alone is around $1,200 a month (depending on the person); by the time we graduate, people will have accrued around $36k of interest on our loans. Interest rates are 7.04% & 8% for grad+ (financial aid person thinks next year interest will be even higher). Yikes.

About Roseman:
Essentially, Roseman is a 3-year program that is community and team-oriented (you do everything in teams), block schedule (1 course at a time), P/F school (need a 90% on tests to pass). They don't care a ton about your statistics as long as you meet their minimums (which you do). They care significantly more about who you are as a person & if you would fit in with their program. It's the opposite of a cut-throat program.

My application:
While I was applying to dental school, the biggest thing for me while applying to programs was making sure I was okay living in the location (I didn't apply to NYU, Maryland, Detroit, etc.) solely because I didn't see myself living there. You are a competitive applicant, so you do have a bit of a luxury in choosing schools that fit what you are looking for. However, make sure you have a few safe schools because I've seen people with your statistics or even better that don't get accepted.

Also, don't apply to MWU; way too expensive. Same with UoP & USC. You can maybe argue UoP because it is a 3 year program, but you will still come out with +$500k in debt. I recently was talking to new grads from USC, and the ones that specialized are sitting in around $800k-$1M in student debt. I think you would be close to $600k in debt by the time you graduated from USC with no specialty. I don't think a single soul should apply to USC. Not. One. Person.
Do you feel the cost is too high for Roseman, even considering they argue that you will have one more year of experience and one less year of interest accruing? I understand I have a bit more selectivity than the average applicant, but tbh I am kind of lost on what places ARE NOT expensive (relatively speaking), aside from UCSF and UCLA (both programs I have not heard great things about from students).
 
Before applying to any school, I would make sure to research it and make sure that you believe that you would like to live in that location and be a good fit for the program. Also, look at how much it costs please.

@Ryxndek We just had our first day of orientation today actually! We went through financial aid and everything, and that was a little rough to see the projected debt from previous years vs projected income (this was low - only $144k; also said OS only make $208k a year).. Can definitely see why some of the legends on here are posting why people shouldn't go to the crazy expensive private programs out there (honestly, all programs crazy expensive).

Back to the Post:
Honestly, @dynamo72 might be considered a decent application for Roseman. They typically accept a large number of people from California & Texas as well. I believe we have 1 or 2 people from UC Davis in our program that are entering D1s. Some of your volunteering experiences align with the program too, which is great. If you are interested in Roseman, feel free to PM me, and I can let you know some of the things they would be looking for in your application/anyone's application.
Hint: Roseman University Six-Point Mastery Learning Model®
Also, to warn you, tuition will probably be around $340kish for you. Living will be another $60k if you are living semi-frugally (1 roommate). The interest on our loans for us alone is around $1,200 a month (depending on the person); by the time we graduate, people will have accrued around $36k of interest on our loans. Interest rates are 7.04% & 8% for grad+ (financial aid person thinks next year interest will be even higher). Yikes.

About Roseman:
Essentially, Roseman is a 3-year program that is community and team-oriented (you do everything in teams), block schedule (1 course at a time), P/F school (need a 90% on tests to pass). They don't care a ton about your statistics as long as you meet their minimums (which you do). They care significantly more about who you are as a person & if you would fit in with their program. It's the opposite of a cut-throat program.

My application:
While I was applying to dental school, the biggest thing for me while applying to programs was making sure I was okay living in the location (I didn't apply to NYU, Maryland, Detroit, etc.) solely because I didn't see myself living there. You are a competitive applicant, so you do have a bit of a luxury in choosing schools that fit what you are looking for. However, make sure you have a few safe schools because I've seen people with your statistics or even better that don't get accepted.

Also, don't apply to MWU; way too expensive. Same with UoP & USC. You can maybe argue UoP because it is a 3 year program, but you will still come out with +$500k in debt. I recently was talking to new grads from USC, and the ones that specialized are sitting in around $800k-$1M in student debt. I think you would be close to $600k in debt by the time you graduated from USC with no specialty. I don't think a single soul should apply to USC. Not. One. Person.
Also, by "safe" schools, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking UNLV might be a safety, but even that might be hard to get into. I am just nervous to be honest, applying to relatively few programs compared to the people around me.
 
Also, by "safe" schools, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking UNLV might be a safety, but even that might be hard to get into. I am just nervous to be honest, applying to relatively few programs compared to the people around me.
please, listen to the advice that has already been given and do your own research
stop asking for suggestions when you have already been given plenty and put in the work
obviously, you are very smart and capable if you have that gpa and a 99+ percentile DAT score...

this is the key line in the template:
School list:
Please include a list of schools you are interested in applying to! It is much easier for users to help you when you have taken the time to construct your own school list first!


please don't think i am being harsh, there are multiple guides in this subforum that explain the schools and what they look for and there are at least a couple good youtube videos on making a school list
part of being a professional and getting into dental school is taking responsibility and making the effort to grow and learn...
 
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Do you feel the cost is too high for Roseman, even considering they argue that you will have one more year of experience and one less year of interest accruing? I understand I have a bit more selectivity than the average applicant, but tbh I am kind of lost on what places ARE NOT expensive (relatively speaking), aside from UCSF and UCLA (both programs I have not heard great things about from students).
I think Roseman is borderline. If they were a 4-year program, I would say it isn't worth it. But because it is a 3-year program, you get 1 extra year of income at the current price; it is a lower costing school (especially for a private school).

Honestly, 90% of the programs out there do not make sense unless you are doing HSPS or have an incredible scholarship. Going +$400k in debt sounds awful if you are only making $150k a year as a dentist; I do not think it would be worth it/make sense. But everyone has a different number.

Also, by "safe" schools, do you have any suggestions? I was thinking UNLV might be a safety, but even that might be hard to get into. I am just nervous to be honest, applying to relatively few programs compared to the people around me.

Do you see yourself living in Vegas/wanting to go there for the next 4 years?

The safest school that I see on your list is WesternU, but they are also extremely strange about who they interview. I know people who have had 23DAT, 3.80gpa that got declined instantly from WesternU & another with 18AA 3.04 GPA that get interviewed and accepted. How well do you fit within WesternU's Mission and Values? Any personal connections to any schools? Maybe there is no "safe" school. Finding a program that you believe you would have the best chance of getting accepted is a safer school (never guaranteed). A safer school/safer bet to me would be one where you are over the average statistics and fit extremely well with their mission/vision/community. In my case: I was lucky, and my safe school was Roseman which was also my top choice. My values could not have aligned more perfectly with a program. Additionally, my DAT + GPA were above their averages as well. But what really mattered way more than my stats was how aligned I was with their program. Again, could not have been a more perfect alignment. Basically, for you, if you find a school that you believe you would fit well with, have value alignment, and is inexpensive, then apply.
 
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I think Roseman is borderline. If they were a 4-year program, I would say it isn't worth it. But because it is a 3-year program, you get 1 extra year of income at the current price; it is a lower costing school (especially for a private school).

Honestly, 90% of the programs out there do not make sense unless you are doing HSPS or have an incredible scholarship. Going +$400k in debt sounds awful if you are only making $150k a year as a dentist; I do not think it would be worth it/make sense. But everyone has a different number.



Do you see yourself living in Vegas/wanting to go there for the next 4 years?

The safest school that I see on your list is WesternU, but they are also extremely strange about who they interview. I know people who have had 23DAT, 3.80gpa that got declined instantly from WesternU & another with 18AA 3.04 GPA that get interviewed and accepted. How well do you fit within WesternU's Mission and Values? Any personal connections to any schools? Maybe there is no "safe" school. Finding a program that you believe you would have the best chance of getting accepted is a safer school (never guaranteed). A safer school/safer bet to me would be one where you are over the average statistics and fit extremely well with their mission/vision/community. In my case: I was lucky, and my safe school was Roseman which was also my top choice. My values could not have aligned more perfectly with a program. Additionally, my DAT + GPA were above their averages as well. But what really mattered way more than my stats was how aligned I was with their program. Again, could not have been a more perfect alignment. Basically, for you, if you find a school that you believe you would fit well with, have value alignment, and is inexpensive, then apply.
Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciate it. Do you mind if I PM you with some more questions / advice about admission into Roseman? I’m curious how much clinical experience you guys get, being in the newly 3 year program.
 
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please, listen to the advice that has already been given and do your own research
stop asking for suggestions when you have already been given plenty and put in the work
obviously, you are very smart and capable if you have that gpa and a 99+ percentile DAT score...

this is the key line in the template:
School list:
Please include a list of schools you are interested in applying to! It is much easier for users to help you when you have taken the time to construct your own school list first!


please don't think i am being harsh, there are multiple guides in this subforum that explain the schools and what they look for and there are at least a couple good youtube videos on making a school list
part of being a professional and getting into dental school is taking responsibility and making the effort to grow and learn...
Will do, thanks for all the help!
 
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Just an update, ended up applying to:
- UCLA, UCSF, UOP, Western, MWU AZ, ASDOH, MWU IL, Roseman, Columbia, UPenn, UMich, UNLV, UWashington, OHSU
 
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Just an update, ended up applying to:
- UCLA, UCSF, UOP, Western, MWU AZ, ASDOH, MWU IL, Roseman, Columbia, UPenn, UMich, UNLV, UWashington, OHSU
wow, that's a lot of schools!
start preparing for interviews, i'm sure you'll get a lot of interest...
 
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wow, that's a lot of schools!
start preparing for interviews, i'm sure you'll get a lot of interest...
Yeah, I just wanted to increase my chances of not having to reapply.

Will definitely start interview prep soon.
 
Yeah, I just wanted to increase my chances of not having to reapply.

Will definitely start interview prep soon.
you better have lots of money saved for interview trips, or hope some/lots of them are virtual
i would recommend checking your mission fit on your safety schools and prioritize which ones you are going to accept interview invites for...
 
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My parents want me to, but I feel the odds are way too slim (only 35 seats is crazy).

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If you wanna go to the school... Go for it, the worst they can say is no
 
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If you’d actually attend the school if accepted then apply, If not, I don’t see a reason to waste money applying bc your parents want you to. This is your journey now, you dictate what the outcome is, not your parents.
 
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If you’d actually attend the school if accepted then apply, If not, I don’t see a reason to waste money applying bc your parents want you to. This is your journey now, you dictate what the outcome is, not your parents.
Thanks, probably won’t apply. I’m near their 5th percentile of their GPA (& sGPA) ranges.
 
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