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For someone who is over 50 and just wants to maintain tone and strength, and ward off future muscular/osteo atrophy, what is the best weight-lifting program?

The common school of thought I've found recommends this program, twice a week using handbells/dumbbells:

-- basic exercises, such as bench press, shoulder press, etc. Nothing too exotic.

-- two sets per exercise, with 10-12 reps per set. On the first set try for the maximum weight which allows 10-12 reps. On the second set use only 1/2 the maximum weight.

This is not for body-building, but just for maintaining strength and tone.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

PS. On the other 3-4 days a week I run about 4 miles (5 if the weather's nice).
 
For someone who is over 50 and just wants to maintain tone and strength, and ward off future muscular/osteo atrophy, what is the best weight-lifting program?

The common school of thought I've found recommends this program, twice a week using handbells/dumbbells:

-- basic exercises, such as bench press, shoulder press, etc. Nothing too exotic.

-- two sets per exercise, with 10-12 reps per set. On the first set try for the maximum weight which allows 10-12 reps. On the second set use only 1/2 the maximum weight.

This is not for body-building, but just for maintaining strength and tone.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

PS. On the other 3-4 days a week I run about 4 miles (5 if the weather's nice).


One caveat: I'm in the Navy reserve, but voluntarily attached to a Marine Corps battalion. I have to pass all the USMC physical fitness standards which are a ball-buster. The physical fitness test is straight-forward:

-- 3 mile run in running clothes and running shoes
-- maximum sit-ups in 2 minutes
-- pull ups

Now they're adding a "Combat Fitness Test" portion and it's brutal:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/a/cft.htm

I just want to be able to keep up with the 19 year-olds :laugh:
 
I'm 44 years old.

I'm convinced that resistance training along with a cuppla days a week of cardio and eating "pretty good" works.

P.S.....I jog a cuppla times a week. Three miles max. JOGGING is the best bang for your buck if you are looking to burn fat.

If I jog a few miles, a cuppla times a week, along with my pretty hard core weight lifting regime, I can almost eat whatever I want. I'm still conservative though....eat pizza et al maybe once a week....usually once every two weeks...

That being said,

Couldnt do five miles on a bet.
 
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Couldnt do five miles on a bet.

Granted, I'm certainly not setting any land speed records.

Get up on the Lakeshore Drive levee, especially in the spring or fall when the weather is gorgeous, and go 2.5 miles. Stop, turn around, and walk/jog/run/walk back to the starting point. Won't seem like 5 miles.
 
Granted, I'm certainly not setting any land speed records.

Get up on the Lakeshore Drive levee, especially in the spring or fall when the weather is gorgeous, and go 2.5 miles. Stop, turn around, and walk/jog/run/walk back to the starting point. Won't seem like 5 miles.

Uhhhhh, OK.

I know you, Trin.

Your body habitus is unlike the THICK CAJUNS AROUND HERE, "YAHRE".:laugh:

You are more like the San Diego fifty something.

Heres what I would suggest:

1) Try and hit THREE bodyparts....in ONE HOUR OR LESS at the gym.

pair working muscles that don't interfere with each other...

here's my last gym visit:

Chest, Back, Calves.....one after the other, which brings an AEROBIC component to the iron:

THREE sets in a row, separate body parts.

One after the other.

SUPERSET ONE:

1)Incline dumbells: 70lb dumbells X 10 reps.
2)Cable lat-pull: 140 lbs X 10 reps.
3)Calf raises: 90 lbs X 15 reps.

OK.....WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED....

SUPERSET TWO:

1)Incline dumbells: 90lb X 10 reps.
2)Cable lat pull: 180 lbs X 10 reps.
3)Calf raises: 90 lbs X 15 reps.

SUPERSET THREE:

1)Incline dumbells: 110lb X 8 reps
2)Cable lat pull: 250 lbs X 8 reps
3)Calf raises: 90 lbs X 15 reps

SUPERSET FOUR:

1)Incline dumbells: 50 lbs AS MUCH AS I CAN GET....I'M GOIN' F UKKIN ANIMAL HERE.....PUSHING MYSELF....THIRTY REPS? HUH? FORTY? Whatever I can get here with the light weight to total exhaustion. PUMPS THE MUSCLE, WHICH IS, UHHHHH, WHY WE'RE ALL HERE. TO PUMP THE MUSCLE. BLOOD IN THE MUSCLE. DA "PUMP".:meanie:
2)Cable lat pull: 120 lbs for as many as I can get....FIFTY? FIFTY EIGHT?
3)Calf raises: 90 lbs X 15 reps.


After this, I change the exercises for four more sets for each body part.

The message is the same.

You can train three bodyparts at the same time, and exhaust those bodyparts....IN LESS THAN AN HOUR.

Which tells you two days a week of weights, maybe three,

and a cuppla days of cardio each week.....cardio meaning jogging thirty minutes per session, minimum twice a week, favorably more.....

AND not eating like a dumb a ss....

EQUALS:

an IN SHAPE dude.

Regardless of age.

The weight you train with in each exercise is less important than the strictness you adhere to in the exercise.

My biceps suck, Trin.

Doesnt mean I don't train them.

Yeah, I can get the 55lb dumbells for 4-5 on the 5th set.

More often than not though you'll see me, THE OLD DUDE doing rep after rep after rep with the 25lb dumbells.

I'm convinced that its all about CONTRACTION OF THE MUSCLE.

Kinda thinking....during my..uhhh....AMPED DAYS where lifting superhuman pounds was "cool"

mighta been a wasta time.

Lemme give you a current day example:

My legs, back in the "amped" days, we're, uhhhhhh,

HUGE.

The "amped" days are a good eight years in the rear view mirror.

And yet with proper (hardcore) resistance training, watching my diet mosta-the-time, and the twice-a-week jogging I described,

DA WHEELS ARE PRETTY THICK AND CUT.

I've always believed in leg training.....no LIGHT BULB physique in my book....

I'LL MEET YOU AT THE HACK SQUAT MACHINE FOR SOME REPS AT 405.

BRING IT.

I'M LOCKED AND LOADED.
 
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I like lighter weight with more reps (12-15) now that I am older. I find that heavy weight (something that I can lift 6-8 reps) hurts my joints more now and I am looking for endurance more than size. I also agree completely with free weights but not so much the bar but I like dumbbells like you mentioned. I also try to mix it up as much as possible. I will do exercises while balancing on the exercise ball or standing on the little half ball thingy. Most important to me is aerobic activity. Thats when I feel best.
 
Uhh After reading Jet's last post, you can skip mine. Strictly amateur on my part.
 
One caveat: I'm in the Navy reserve, but voluntarily attached to a Marine Corps battalion. I have to pass all the USMC physical fitness standards which are a ball-buster. The physical fitness test is straight-forward:

-- 3 mile run in running clothes and running shoes
-- maximum sit-ups in 2 minutes
-- pull ups

Now they're adding a "Combat Fitness Test" portion and it's brutal:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/a/cft.htm

I just want to be able to keep up with the 19 year-olds :laugh:

They are making you take a USMC PFT....wtf. Our corpsman didn't even take our PFT. Last time I was on a ship, we were in port and the girls squad, I mean Navy did their physical fitness test. A group of us did it still intoxicated from the few hours beforehand just for fun, and to think we were cool. Seriously though I don't understand why they are making you do that. 3 mile runs really fast are not fun.
 
One caveat: I'm in the Navy reserve, but voluntarily attached to a Marine Corps battalion. I have to pass all the USMC physical fitness standards which are a ball-buster.

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Navy personnel assigned to USMC units are held to Navy standards. When I was attached to a USMC battalion, I did the USMC test just once and that was only because I wanted the FMF warfare pin. You shouldn't have to do their test unless you want to.
 
I like lighter weight with more reps (12-15) now that I am older. I find that heavy weight (something that I can lift 6-8 reps) hurts my joints more now and I am looking for endurance more than size. I also agree completely with free weights but not so much the bar but I like dumbbells like you mentioned. I also try to mix it up as much as possible. I will do exercises while balancing on the exercise ball or standing on the little half ball thingy. Most important to me is aerobic activity. Thats when I feel best.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

You have ARRIVED, Mikey.

You have LMFAO following your MD.😆😆

There is nothing else for you to strive for.
 
They are making you take a USMC PFT....wtf. Our corpsman didn't even take our PFT. Seriously though I don't understand why they are making you do that. Because Navy personnel attached are all volunteers, but more importantly, it's because the battalion commanding officer said we would 3 mile runs really fast are not fun. "Just a walk in the park Kolanski" (yeah, right)
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Navy personnel assigned to USMC units are held to Navy standards. When I was attached to a USMC battalion, I did the USMC test just once and that was only because I wanted the FMF warfare pin. You shouldn't have to do their test unless you want to.

The battalion commanding officer said we would .... so we do.
 
Quick suggestion on your cardio. Since you are also tested on your anaerobic fitness with that 800 sprint. You need to do some track workouts to build explosive fast twitch speed.

Spend a day a week working on top end speed. Go to the track and do 400 repeats. Start easy doing lilke 400's (one lap) at something to 120 seconds. Just do a set of 6. Believe me at the end, it will hurt like a SOB. Give yourself just enough rest that your heart rate has dropped back to below 100 bpms for like 60 seconds and then do the next set. You will find that after a while this will really help your long runs as well.


If you are feeling it in the joints with the mileage you are doing. Cross train with the bike.

I do triathlons and use primarily the bike as my base training since I tore up my knee skiing in college. With the bike as my main cardio, I still can sub 7:10 miles for 6-10 miles in my run leg of my triathlons. Believe me, I am very average in triathlons for my age group. 35-40. I still get my ass handed to me by the elite 50-55 ers. These guys are still hammering sub 7:00 minute miles after swimming a mile, and biking 30 miles. It's unreal.

If you do these track workouts, you will not only be keeping up with the 19 year olds ... but bending them over and showing them who's their daddy:laugh:
 
you seem like a newbie to the world of lifting so jets post is probably wayyy too much for you...i've been lifting hardcore for a while and i got a headache trying to read that altho its a really good plan for those that actually know what they are doing and have specific goals

to simplify for you....3 days weights, 2-3 days cardio as hard as your goals are

Day 1 - PUSH (chest, shoulders, tris) 3 chest exercises, 2 shoulder exercises, 1 or 2 tri's
Day 2 - PULL (Back, lats, bi's) 3 back exercises, 1 lat exercise, 2 biceps
Day 3 - Legs (Quads, hams, calves) 4 exercises hitting ur upper legs, 1 hitting ur calves

Cardio can consist of a bike, elliptical, treadmill, actual running, sprints, boxing the heavy bag....i do it all to avoid getting bored. I find cardio to be more therapeutic mentally if done somewhere wher eu arent running in place. hope it helps
 
I got one phrase for ya: P90X by Tony Horton. 90 days and you will be in the best shape of your life, period. You want to pattern yourself after that Jack Lalanne guy. You can't kill that lil' squirrel---guy's in his 90s and looks 50. Regards, ----Zippy
 
I am no expert in such matters, but I can tell you what feels best for me.

1. Aerobic activity is a must. If you have to choose, it's more important than weights. As jet said, jogging gives me the best bang for the buck.

2. If you are going to do weights, if possible combination exercises--bench, squats, that work multiple body parts I find the best. You can get a great workout in a short amount of time, and train your whole body. Which I feel is important. I see too many guys doing curls and bench and having disproportionate physiques. If you can do a ton of sets/reps and get an aerobic workout and enjoy it as well, all the better.

3. Speed workouts are great as well. Again, forces you to keep your flexibility, and you must commit all muscles to the effort. And, as someone eluded to before--you'll be a better athlete than most 19 yr olds this way.

4. Eat semi-good at least. Doesn't need to be perfect.
 
I got one phrase for ya: P90X by Tony Horton. 90 days and you will be in the best shape of your life, period. You want to pattern yourself after that Jack Lalanne guy. You can't kill that lil' squirrel---guy's in his 90s and looks 50. Regards, ----Zippy

I wouldnt' say 50. I'd say like an asskicking 75 yr old.
 
I usually just lurk here but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.

I would suggest keeping it simple and sticking to compound lifts. That is: bench, squats, rows, deadlifts, etc

Fairly heavy, 6-8 reps or so. Not to say Jet is wrong, everyone's different and based on his pics what he does is working for him, but I don't think the whole 50 rep sets and all those supersets are good for a whole lot if you're looking for some basic strength. Maybe this is easy for me to say since I'm twenty, but the whole super high rep workout with light weights and bosu balls is for girls.
 
Don't be afraid to mix it up with heavy weights. Do a 6/6/6/6 scheme on a compound exercise, pyramiding the weights up as you go but not doing an extremely high number of warm-up reps that might sap your strength further into the exercise. For example:


Seated DB Shoulder Press. Great exercise, go lighter if you don't have a spot (I never do) but know you can drop the weights laterally if you lose it. Do 6 reps with 3/1/3 cadence [Concentric / hold / Eccentric] to warm up, then bump it up. Keep increasing the weight so that with your last set of six, you hit as close to failure as you feel comfortable hitting.


Cardio: Don't be afraid of the ellipitical but realize that different manufacturers have different body types in mind. Some have wide hips and shoulders while others are more narrow, which can cause pain if you are a wide guy. After a week or two, start doing interval sprints. I was a personal trainer at an exclusive private gym in Seattle when I was in acupuncture school and even the most fit clients could easily be destroyed with interval sprints. The goal is to hit oxygen debt [in order to get a questionable hormone release, but hey, regardless of the mechanism, it slays], so try to make it so after the sprint it is much harder to get a breath than when you were sprinting.

Example:
2 minutes warmup on level 10.
30s sprint at level 16 followed by 30s rest at level 8.
30s sprint at level 18 followed by 30s rest at level 8.
30s sprint at level 20 followed by 30s rest at level 8.
20s sprint at level 16, 20s rest at level 8, 20s sprint at level 16, 30s rest at 8.

Continue to increase the levels, times of sprints, and decrease time of rest until you vomit. Repeat ad naseum.
 
I recommend checking out crossfit.com. I am 41 years old, skinny, and had almost exclusively a running background.

15 months ago, I started crossfitting at a affiliate gym in San Diego and it has brought me to another level of fitness. It includes a lot of compound lifts with a barbell such as back squat, dead lift, thrusters, cleans, clean and jerk, and shoulder press. The program also includes a lot of calisthenics and body weight exercises (burpees, pullups, pushups). The workouts are short (10-40min), timed and multiple rounds but the whole body exercises cause you to exceed lactate threshhold very early so you get cardio benefits.

I have noticed big improvements in stability while I run/ski/skate/lift boxes and furniture at home. My back/hips/legs feel very solid where that was not the case in the past. There are benchmark workouts which you repeat every few weeks to measure your progress.

Some numbers (remember i am 5'8" and 130lbs soaking wet)

Back squat 125--->175
dead lift 195--->245
Pullups 12--->34
1/2 marathon 1:36--->1:28(with much less run training)
marathon 3:33--->3:23(hope to go under 3:20 at NYC in November)

Since you are military, you may already know about crossfit. One of the co-owners of my gym is a Navy radiology resident. He is in his mid 30's and crossfits exclusively. His most recent PFT was 100 situps/83 pushups/ and 8:29 for the 1.5mi run. The program works.

Sorry if I sound overly enthusiastic but it can be transformative, especially if you did not do much weight training in the past which was my case.
 
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Quick suggestion on your cardio. Since you are also tested on your anaerobic fitness with that 800 sprint. You need to do some track workouts to build explosive fast twitch speed.

Spend a day a week working on top end speed. Go to the track and do 400 repeats. Start easy doing lilke 400's (one lap) at something to 120 seconds. Just do a set of 6. Believe me at the end, it will hurt like a SOB. Give yourself just enough rest that your heart rate has dropped back to below 100 bpms for like 60 seconds and then do the next set. You will find that after a while this will really help your long runs as well.

With the bike as my main cardio, I still can sub 7:10 miles for 6-10 miles in my run leg of my triathlons.

First of all, bolded part = WHOA

Second, I would disagree a little and say that a 3:00+ 800m is not terribly anaerobic and definitely not a 4:00 800m. Even if you were running your personal-best pace you're only getting anaerobic in the last 200m of an 800m.

Third, this post reminds me of track workouts for the 800m and 1600m in high school: 8-10 400m repeats @ 70 second target time, 2x rest between intervals. What was I thinking?!
 
For someone who is over 50 and just wants to maintain tone and strength, and ward off future muscular/osteo atrophy, what is the best weight-lifting program?

The common school of thought I've found recommends this program, twice a week using handbells/dumbbells:

-- basic exercises, such as bench press, shoulder press, etc. Nothing too exotic.

-- two sets per exercise, with 10-12 reps per set. On the first set try for the maximum weight which allows 10-12 reps. On the second set use only 1/2 the maximum weight.

This is not for body-building, but just for maintaining strength and tone.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

PS. On the other 3-4 days a week I run about 4 miles (5 if the weather's nice).

As you see, fitness is kind of a personal thing. I got an Outstanding on the Navy PFA and a 285 on the Marine PFT last Spring before starting Residency. I have pretty much used Crossfit as the foundation for staying in military / functional fitness. They post a workout on their website every day. It's usually 20-45 minutes long. Just be careful, b/c you REALLY need to scale down the workouts when you first start. I've used it as the foundation for mountaineering, running (recently ran a marathon), skiing, surfing, and for the military's measure of fitness. On top of that, the Marine Corps has really bought off on Crossfit, although the Navy is still a little scared of it. Just my $0.02.


-Sorry. Just saw someone else already chimed in about Crossfit.
 
I think the common thread here is that these exercises are challenging your body in all facets, which is important. Aerobic activity, weights, and speed workouts all work your body in different and important ways. Do only one or two of the three and you'll get in shape but not be in the best physical shape you can be. I need all three.


also...if you like a sport, mix that in as much as you can.
 
Alright you workout freaks.
I need a good high-intensity workout. I've seen crossfit.com and some of teh others but I'm looking for a program that will get me ready for ski season. Anybody got one? Not a total kick your ass type. And not a total weight type. I want to be able to do some of it outside as well as in the gym.
 
Alright you workout freaks.
I need a good high-intensity workout. I've seen crossfit.com and some of teh others but I'm looking for a program that will get me ready for ski season. Anybody got one? Not a total kick your ass type. And not a total weight type. I want to be able to do some of it outside as well as in the gym.

I know you already looked at Crossfit... But I used it last year to get my legs in shape for ski season. I did 5 days straight of tele/bc in December and I could still walk at the end of the week. After the first week was out of the way, the legs were good for the season. Even if you don't do the crossfit workouts, the warmup has 45 squats incorporated into it, and I think the (air) squats are really what helped me. If you are doing any backcountry, then it always helps to have the arms ready to help as well. We trained a LOT of guys for backcountry skiing and we found that a crossfit type workout worked well to prep them for the rigors of skiing for long periods of time. Someone also mentioned P90X. I haven't done this, but I've heard good things about it. Same basic concept as Crossfit, without the cult-like following.
 
X2 for P90X.

X2 for bringing up the annoying cult status of crossfit (although it obviously has merit).
 
I think heavy weight/low reps are best for developing strength & power, but I can understand the concern with doing this if someone is older.

The high reps/short rest periods/super sets, etc. are good if you've got time constraints or are trying for the bodybuilder physique.

That type of strategy will make your muscles look fuller, more round due to causing increased capillary formation, greater glycogen storage capacity, etc.
 
I just started doing something new after a decade of lifting. I've played around with various rep and cadence schemes and I stumbled across a new [to me] method.


I do 4 exercises per major body part and four sets of each exercise. But now I change up the rep scheme and goals for each exercise in order to mix things up.

For the prime mover / big daddy exercise for the body part, I do 6/6/6/6 but pyramid the weight up. The first two sets are warmup sets but instead of doing high reps which can start to fatigue, I just get a nice little pump, prepare my nervous system for the heavier sets soon to come, and save my energy. The last set I should hit failure between 5-7 reps.

I have two other exercises use the old skool classic of 10/8/6/4 while pyramiding the weight up. This is scheme I have seen the most results with over the past decade.

Finally I have a high to medium rep pump exercise, usually towards the end of the workout, that tends to be a "safer" exercise since I am nearly spent.

I like mixing all these different rep schemes up because it seems like I cover all the bases listed earlier in the thread by various folks.

Today, for example, I did chest:

Incline DB CP - 6/6/6/6
Hammer Strength Decline CP - 10/8/6/4
Machine Flyes - 10/8/6/4
Flat BB CP - 15/15/15/15

Result: totally swole.


I'm not sure if this method is an option for the older gentlemen in the thread, but since I switched to it, I haven't had any of my normal lagging injuries.
 
I just started doing something new after a decade of lifting. I've played around with various rep and cadence schemes and I stumbled across a new [to me] method.


I do 4 exercises per major body part and four sets of each exercise. But now I change up the rep scheme and goals for each exercise in order to mix things up.

For the prime mover / big daddy exercise for the body part, I do 6/6/6/6 but pyramid the weight up. The first two sets are warmup sets but instead of doing high reps which can start to fatigue, I just get a nice little pump, prepare my nervous system for the heavier sets soon to come, and save my energy. The last set I should hit failure between 5-7 reps.

I have two other exercises use the old skool classic of 10/8/6/4 while pyramiding the weight up. This is scheme I have seen the most results with over the past decade.

Hmmm,

That's interesting. The 6/6/6/6 method, you essentially do 1-2 sets to failure at low reps, whereas with the pyramid method you do 4 sets to failure at different rep ranges.

With every set to failure, you could argue that the pyramid method may eventually cause overtraining, or that the 6/6/6/6 method may cause understimulation with only 1-2 sets to failure.

On the other hand, you could argue that the 6/6/6/6 allows you to lift more weight at a low rep range, because you're not fatigued from higher rep sets to failure with lighter weights.

What's your take on this?
 
Hmmm,

That's interesting. The 6/6/6/6 method, you essentially do 1-2 sets to failure at low reps, whereas with the pyramid method you do 4 sets to failure at different rep ranges.

With every set to failure, you could argue that the pyramid method may eventually cause overtraining, or that the 6/6/6/6 method may cause understimulation with only 1-2 sets to failure.

On the other hand, you could argue that the 6/6/6/6 allows you to lift more weight at a low rep range, because you're not fatigued from higher rep sets to failure with lighter weights.

What's your take on this?


I did the 6/6/6/6 for two months then did higher reps for the two months I was in keto (because I knew my strength would suck) and just started it up again. While I did it the first time, I broke weight barriers I couldn't touch before because I had more left when it was time to work the magic on the last set. I was finally able to do 120lb dumbells on incline chest press and broke the 100lb dumbell barrier for seated shoulder press.

It was great. I'm not back up to those poundages after my two+ months in keto but I should be there soon and probably without any injuries.

Arnie used to say when you hit a body part three times a week [as if], pick one of those days to go heavy because it is just too much of a stress on the body to go heavy all the time. That's what the 6/6/6/6 allows me to do.
 
That brings up a question I don't know if anyone has the answer to,

Whatever the rep range, should you take every set to failure? and if not, are the sets that are cut short really doing anything (in the experienced lifter)?
 
That brings up a question I don't know if anyone has the answer to,

Whatever the rep range, should you take every set to failure? and if not, are the sets that are cut short really doing anything (in the experienced lifter)?

If you take every set to failure and do 16 sets like I do per body part, something is going to fall off eventually.


I've only seen a few people do well on a Heavy Duty-type workout and I think all were chemically enhanced. But the Heavy Duty workouts do call for a small number of exercises and you just go until you hit failure. It is fun to try infrequently...


Of course Mentzer would have laughed at my workout and asked why the hell I needed to do 16 sets if 5 sets to failure would suffice.

Not sure if I really have a rebuttal to that.




mike_mentzer.jpg
 
If you take every set to failure and do 16 sets like I do per body part, something is going to fall off eventually.


I've only seen a few people do well on a Heavy Duty-type workout and I think all were chemically enhanced. But the Heavy Duty workouts do call for a small number of exercises and you just go until you hit failure. It is fun to try infrequently...


Of course Mentzer would have laughed at my workout and asked why the hell I needed to do 16 sets if 5 sets to failure would suffice.

Not sure if I really have a rebuttal to that.




mike_mentzer.jpg


The best part of that picture is the 70's porn star 'stash.
 
I would imagine that decomp seldom is pretty.
 
P90x is great! beats the piss out of you and you really do see results in about a week, others will notice by two weeks.
 
Actually watched the Olympia 2008 webcast the day after the finals and I honestly didn't see how he lost. Granted, all the footage was shot from one perspective and was hardly in HD, but he looked close at prejudging and amazing at the finals.


Glad to see the judges are possibly going towards a more aesthetic direction...for now.
 
Doing legs today and since I keep having "radicular symptoms consistent with the L4 dermatome", I have decided to do lighter weights and exercises that don't put as much stress on my low back as heavy squats and leg press.



Sigh.



Getting older sucks.
 
I'm startin' to think Noyac is one of them MIB dudes. Prolly got into a lil' somethin' somethin' up on one of them snow covered mountains where oxygen is a little sparse. Maybe has a ouija board tucked away in his briefcase. Truth be known, MIB dudes can see and converse with what us earthlings call "dead people." Yup, for what it's worth, the Mentzer brothers died out in Cali about 1-2 days apart in 2001---strange! IMO, no one could hold a candle to the MYTH (Sergio Oliva) in his prime. Dude defined the Victory Pose and had a waist like a wasp---20 to 30 years ahead of everyone at the time. Incredible genetics. Maybe the gurus could post a pic of him-- perhaps the greatest bodybuilder of all time. Regards, ----Zippy
 
If Sergio could have trained full-time he might have fought off the Austrian Oak, but as the situation would have it, the Myth worked a manual labor job 40+ hours a week and Arnold was sponsored.



At least that is what I was told.
 
I'm startin' to think Noyac is one of them MIB dudes. Prolly got into a lil' somethin' somethin' up on one of them snow covered mountains where oxygen is a little sparse. Maybe has a ouija board tucked away in his briefcase. Truth be known, MIB dudes can see and converse with what us earthlings call "dead people." Yup, for what it's worth, the Mentzer brothers died out in Cali about 1-2 days apart in 2001---strange! IMO, no one could hold a candle to the MYTH (Sergio Oliva) in his prime. Dude defined the Victory Pose and had a waist like a wasp---20 to 30 years ahead of everyone at the time. Incredible genetics. Maybe the gurus could post a pic of him-- perhaps the greatest bodybuilder of all time. Regards, ----Zippy

I just spoke with Mike yesterday.
 
Nevermind, I don't need a high intensity workout.

I started playing hockey.
 
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