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I was going through secondaries when I noticed one of them asked, "Please list your hobbies and major non-academic interests (e.g., items you collect, genre of favorites reading material)." I already listed my interests in cooking, surfing, and computers, but I have some others as well. Do you think it would be appropriate to list something like my anime (like you couldn't guess form my avatar 🙂 ) hobby or video games? At first I wasn't thinking about putting either down, but when I looked at the e.g. list, it got me wondering.

Might my anime or video game hobby also be applied here since I haven't talked about them in my primary?
"The admissions committee requests that you write another essay that provides us with some insight into you as a person. The content should NOT repeat anything that we can learn from the AMCAS essay. However, other than that you may discuss any topic you choose. The essay has a limited length, so be certain that you know your material will fit in the allotted space (approximately 500-600 words)."
 
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I was going through secondaries when I noticed one of them asked, "Please list your hobbies and major non-academic interests (e.g., items you collect, genre of favorites reading material)." I already listed my interests in cooking, surfing, and computers, but I have some others as well. Do you think it would be appropriate to list something like my anime (like you couldn't guess form my avatar 🙂 ) hobby or video games? At first I wasn't thinking about putting either down, but when I looked at the e.g. list, it got me wondering.

Might my anime or video game hobby also be applied here since I haven't talked about them in my primary?
"The admissions committee requests that you write another essay that provides us with some insight into you as a person. The content should NOT repeat anything that we can learn from the AMCAS essay. However, other than that you may discuss any topic you choose. The essay has a limited length, so be certain that you know your material will fit in the allotted space (approximately 500-600 words)."

Let's put it this way. If you were a 50 year old clinician on adcom trying to decide which 20 year old he wanted as a future colleague, do you think this hobby could be spinned as something that would interest or intrigue you? If you actually drew/filmed anime or helped design video games, then sure. If you wrote a thesis or published a paper relating to those subjects, then sure. If you had a world reknowned collection of rare anime and participated in auctions and shows and the like, then sure. If you competed in video game competitions and were a ranked player, then sure. If it led to a GSN TV appearance or something like that, then sure. But if you just like it in your spare time, I'd probably stay far away from mentioning this. Because it makes you seem too much like a kid and maturity is something they evaluate you on. Stay away from childish endeavors unless you take it a step further and have gained a national name or reputation, earned money on the endeavor, or can show how it has shaped you and helped you grow and mature in some non-recreational way.
 
Let's put it this way. If you were a 50 year old clinician on adcom trying to decide which 20 year old he wanted as a future colleague, do you think this hobby could be spinned as something that would interest or intrigue you? If you actually drew/filmed anime or helped design video games, then sure. If you wrote a thesis or published a paper relating to those subjects, then sure. If you had a world reknowned collection of rare anime and participated in auctions and shows and the like, then sure. If you competed in video game competitions and were a ranked player, then sure. If it led to a GSN TV appearance or something like that, then sure. But if you just like it in your spare time, I'd probably stay far away from mentioning this. Because it makes you seem too much like a kid and maturity is something they evaluate you on. Stay away from childish endeavors unless you take it a step further and have gained a national name or reputation, earned money on the endeavor, or can show how it has shaped you and helped you grow and mature in some non-recreational way.

Hmmm. I definitely see what your saying here. This is definitely safe advice, for sure. Can't go wrong by thinking how you can spin it into something impressive or interesting from the perspective of an adcom member. But then again, the prompt gave the examples of things like items one collects or one's favorite reading. My gut tells me that it may be a chance to let your hair down and say something like a "normal" person would say when simply asked what they like to do. But then, it is hard to argue with your advice, so I'd feel bad recommending otherwise.

I am sure they get thousands of responses where everyone seems to be interested in publishing research articles in their spare time and all have hobbies like working to eradicate Malaria in 3rd world countries. For what it's worth, I think I put down things like I enjoy riding motorcycles, reading various things from sci-fi to early american history, and playing strategy games. I omitted my extensive beer bottle collection, fascination with target shooting/guns, and interest in debating topics involving overlaps of science and religion .... just to be safe. For better or worse, my topics didn't really prompt much, if any, discussion.
 
I ran into the hobbies question a couple times. I think I mentioned weightlifting, soccer, gardening, cooking, moderating an internet forum, and maybe a couple other things. Like Law2Doc said, anything that can be spun positively will work.
 
I think those would be good additions to your application. If everything else in your application is strong than I think that point to maturity and that you are ready for med school. The games and stuff would also let them know that you are person and not just nerd with his head stuck in a book.
 
The games and stuff would also let them know that you are person and not just nerd with his head stuck in a book.

I'm actually not sure that anime or video games make you come across on paper as less nerdy. I think you have to be careful about hobbies like this -- ones that involve inter-personal or physical activity (eg sports) do far more to get away from the nerd stereotype than these. What adcoms don't want to get is a picture of stunted maturity or someone who doesn't get out of the house/library.
 
I think the admissions committees just want to hear about things about which you are passionate. If you can talk about the values that draw you to anime and video games, or perhaps an interest in modern Japanese culture that draws you to both, it could be a great essay. But I would see an essay about video games and anime that is passionate as infinitely better than one that is tedious about things that interest you less.
 
...I omitted my extensive beer bottle collection, fascination with target shooting/guns, and interest in debating topics involving overlaps of science and religion .... just to be safe. For better or worse, my topics didn't really prompt much, if any, discussion.

Wait...so I shouldn't mention my love of shooting things? I do high-power rifle competitions, achieved a lot of medals and a few awards from the National Matches at Camp Perry, OH. I figured a time-intensive hobby like this should be mentioned, but are guns a no-no for essays? Just curious.
 
Wait...so I shouldn't mention my love of shooting things? I do high-power rifle competitions, achieved a lot of medals and a few awards from the National Matches at Camp Perry, OH. I figured a time-intensive hobby like this should be mentioned, but are guns a no-no for essays? Just curious.

Your particular hobby is classified more under "sport" than "I like guns," so I would say it's fine. Those competitions require a lot of skill and time, and it shows dedication. I wouldn't hesitate to include it. They do have shooting in the Olympics, so it's not unheard of.
 
damn, so including my celebrities' hair collection doesnt count! i knew i shouldnt had invested in Britney🙁
 
Wait...so I shouldn't mention my love of shooting things? I do high-power rifle competitions, achieved a lot of medals and a few awards from the National Matches at Camp Perry, OH. I figured a time-intensive hobby like this should be mentioned, but are guns a no-no for essays? Just curious.

Sounds good to me. In your case, I would mention it.
 
Wait...so I shouldn't mention my love of shooting things? I do high-power rifle competitions, achieved a lot of medals and a few awards from the National Matches at Camp Perry, OH. I figured a time-intensive hobby like this should be mentioned, but are guns a no-no for essays? Just curious.
Don't send in a picture of yourself dressed like a gun-toting weirdo, but in your case, absolutely mention it, IMO.
 
If you like video games, why not put it down? I've put down TV shows I like (Lost, Project Runway, The Wire, Top Chef, House). The two are pretty similar. I doubt anybody will look down upon you liking video games.

I'd like to also add that I've put down that I've spent hundreds of hours waiting in line for UVA football and basketball games. If Adcoms don't like it, whatever. I get to do work outside and have fun!
 
Wait...so I shouldn't mention my love of shooting things? I do high-power rifle competitions, achieved a lot of medals and a few awards from the National Matches at Camp Perry, OH. I figured a time-intensive hobby like this should be mentioned, but are guns a no-no for essays? Just curious.

Again, its about the spin. You wouldn't say "I'm interested in shooting things and making stuff go boom," you'd say "I have an avid interest in marksmanship and have earned several national-level awards in the sport, including X, Y, and Z."
 
If you like video games, why not put it down? I've put down TV shows I like (Lost, Project Runway, The Wire, Top Chef, House). The two are pretty similar. I doubt anybody will look down upon you liking video games.

I'd like to also add that I've put down that I've spent hundreds of hours waiting in line for UVA football and basketball games. If Adcoms don't like it, whatever. I get to do work outside and have fun!

I hope this is an attempt at comedy.
 
"I'm interested in shooting things and making stuff go boom,"

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I think you should use that particular line at your interview; see how the interviewer reacts 😉.
 
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I think you should use that particular line at your interview; see how the interviewer reacts 😉.

"I'm an avid explosives engineer in my spare time. Watching the fruits of my labor bring the ultimate destruction to mailboxes, erlenmeyer flasks, and small animals really gives me the adrenaline rush needed to race home and memorize the amino acid side chain structures for a sixth time. What?"
:laugh:
 
I hope this is an attempt at comedy.
It wasn't. When I'm asked to write something about myself, I write about myself. So what if I've spent a considerable amount of time waiting in line for athletic events? If I get any interviews, I hope I get asked about it. It's something interesting that not too many people do.
 
It wasn't. When I'm asked to write something about myself, I write about myself. So what if I've spent a considerable amount of time waiting in line for athletic events? If I get any interviews, I hope I get asked about it. It's something interesting that not too many people do.
Just because it's interesting doesn't make it fodder for the AMCAS.
 
When they specifically say "items you collect, genre of favorites reading material," then anything's fair game really. Come on, devoting time to sporting events is just as good as collecting stamps. Go Heels though.
 
Some of you are way too serious. I think this type of question is meant to be casual and honest to give the interviewers a little peak at your personality. As long as it's not controversial or casts you in a bad light (eg. I enjoy going to strip clubs in my free time), then it's ok. OP: If anime and video games are important to you then mention them. However don't feel like you have to list every single hobby you've ever had....lots of activities/hobbies doesn't make a better app.
 
If you'd be proud enough to tell your neighbor or a professor, it's fine. My dilemma... is airsoft considered an appropriate hobby? It sounds/seems dangerous and primitive to most people outside of the field...
 
Airsoft is now a "field"??
 
Just because it's interesting doesn't make it fodder for the AMCAS.
If the question asks to write about yourself (hobbies, interests, etc.), I don't see how I can go wrong letting them know about my hobbies and interests. I didn't put any of that on the primary, even though I know some people on here did.

I guess the debate here would be whether it's a good idea to write hobbies down on open ended essays. Some I have, some I haven't. I don't think an adcom is going to look unfavorably on me writing about my hobbies when the question says: "Is there anything extra you would like to tell us about yourself?". I had UVA's former admissions director tell me it was good to put down my five year relationship with my girlfriend. I think being a fanatic goes along the same line (passion, dedication, commitment). 😀
 
If the question asks to write about yourself (hobbies, interests, etc.), I don't see how I can go wrong letting them know about my hobbies and interests. I didn't put any of that on the primary, even though I know some people on here did.

I guess the debate here would be whether it's a good idea to write hobbies down on open ended essays. Some I have, some I haven't. I don't think an adcom is going to look unfavorably on me writing about my hobbies when the question says: "Is there anything extra you would like to tell us about yourself?". I had UVA's former admissions director tell me it was good to put down my five year relationship with my girlfriend. I think being a fanatic goes along the same line (passion, dedication, commitment). 😀

I think you always have to keep in mind how something is going to look to the adcom. If a hobby makes you look unimpressive or is a negative, you should think long and hard about whether that makes it into your application, even if the question purports to ask. You are being evaluated on every single thing you put down on the application -- the school is trying to decide if you would be a "good fit" for their school. So yeah, I still stick with my first post on this thread -- if your video gaming and anime distinguishes you in some way (ie as a business venture, as a nationally known competitor or collector) then go with it. If it just makes you sound like you spent way too much time playing games in a dark rec room or standing on line for sporting events, I say leave it out.

I actually would leave out mention of GFs, BFs, SOs, unless they are a spouse, because honestly a ton of folks break up in med school and schools tend not to care about relationships that haven't yet been made official. different adcoms will have different views on this, but I don't see how it can help you, and perhaps could hurt you if someone feels this kind of thing doesn't belong in an application.
 
I think you always have to keep in mind how something is going to look to the adcom. If a hobby makes you look unimpressive or is a negative, you should think long and hard about whether that makes it into your application, even if the question purports to ask. You are being evaluated on every single thing you put down on the application -- the school is trying to decide if you would be a "good fit" for their school. So yeah, I still stick with my first post on this thread -- if your video gaming and anime distinguishes you in some way (ie as a business venture, as a nationally known competitor or collector) then go with it. If it just makes you sound like you spent way too much time playing games in a dark rec room or standing on line for sporting events, I say leave it out.

I actually would leave out mention of GFs, BFs, SOs, unless they are a spouse, because honestly a ton of folks break up in med school and schools tend not to care about relationships that haven't yet been made official. different adcoms will have different views on this, but I don't see how it can help you, and perhaps could hurt you if someone feels this kind of thing doesn't belong in an application.

I have no doubt that there are MANY ADCOMS that agree with L2D. I really do suspect that he's entirely right in suggesting that ADCOMs might look unfavorably on certain hobbies and ECs -- anime, gaming, "fanaticism" re: sports, long term relationships. In fact, I've kept my application rather conservative for that very reason.

However, THAT SAID, I think pre-meds are far too unwilling to question whether or not ADCOMs have a right to discriminate based on "aesthetically unpleasant" ECs. Do ADCOMs actually have the right to object to the television shows that you watch? The friends that you make? How about your sexuality/significant other? Many of these issues are matters of personal preference and matters that give insight into the applicant's fundamental character -- ADOMS ask you to address issues of your character in your application. SO, when ADCOMs ask for a lot of personal information about you, is it really fair to have a "don't ask, don't tell policy" regarding personal information that "might" be considered objectionable? Is it not up to us, medical school applicants, to demonstrate clearly what we consider our passions and interests to be?

I probably didn't express my point clearly -- basically what I'm saying is this: If your hobby or sport shows dedication, talent, and intellectual involvement (and doesn't hurt others), why *should* ADCOMs have the right to say that some ECs are "better" than others?
 
If the question asks to write about yourself (hobbies, interests, etc.), I don't see how I can go wrong letting them know about my hobbies and interests. I didn't put any of that on the primary, even though I know some people on here did.
So if your interests include pornography and bondage, you'd let them know? I'm being extreme to point out that there really are some interests/hobbies that might be best kept to yourself.
 
However, THAT SAID, I think pre-meds are far too unwilling to question whether or not ADCOMs have a right to discriminate based on "aesthetically unpleasant" ECs. Do ADCOMs actually have the right to object to the television shows that you watch? The friends that you make? How about your sexuality/significant other?
Yes to all of those except sexuality. When you get on an adcom, then you can make your own decisions. I'm being serious. I'm not taking a position on whether or not this is good or bad, but you have to realize that physician/research faculty have a vested interest in molding the future of their profession, so they select students based on what they would like the profession to be for the next generation.
 
Also something to keep in mind is that the ADCOMs that will be interviewing you might not know about the mature aspects of video games and anime(I don't mean blood and guts 🙄). Due to the fact that back in the day, these two were viewed as nerdy and childish, it paints a negative picture for your application. Although nowadays this may not be the case, the adcom interviewing you may think otherwise. Think of it like this: when having a conversation with your uncle/aunt or grandparents, do you discuss those two things in detail? Most likely.....no, unless they enjoy these as well. You usually discuss these with people around your age or younger. Of course, this doesn't always mean that it may be appropriate to discuss it with a student interviewer, but you can always play it by ear.
 
Also something to keep in mind is that the ADCOMs that will be interviewing you might not know about the mature aspects of video games and anime(I don't mean blood and guts 🙄). (snip!)

On the other hand, they may only know about the blood and guts (GTAIV, I'm looking at you!), so be prepared to talk about these more "mature" aspects of gaming/anime (immersive environments, complex interwoven storytelling, etc) if questioned.
 
Of course, this doesn't always mean that it may be appropriate to discuss it with a student interviewer, but you can always play it by ear.
Exactly. If I were interviewing an applicant, and they mentioned playing Call of Duty 4, I certainly wouldn't hold it against them Maybe leave out the part about WOW though. :laugh:
 
Exactly. If I were interviewing an applicant, and they mentioned playing Call of Duty 4, I certainly wouldn't hold it against them Maybe leave out the part about WOW though. :laugh:

You don't see gold farming as an entrepreneurial endeavor?:laugh:
 
Yes to all of those except sexuality. When you get on an adcom, then you can make your own decisions. I'm being serious. I'm not taking a position on whether or not this is good or bad, but you have to realize that physician/research faculty have a vested interest in molding the future of their profession, so they select students based on what they would like the profession to be for the next generation.

Your point is well taken. However, I think there are subtle references to sexuality such as an applicant who chooses to wear a pin with a small pink triangle. This might be "aesthetically unpleasant" to ADCOMS but might nevertheless be indicative of a profound commitment to human rights, a supportive community, and a sense of identity. We're a little off the topic of ECs, here, though, and, to clarify, I'm not talkling about flagrant displays of bondage and sex toys. I guess the community that you associate with will sometimes have an influence on what kind of ECs you choose to pursue (commitment to underserved populations? rural medicine? etc.)

I do realize that ADCOMs are choosing students for the next generation and that this is a very important responsibility. At the same time, however, the choices should probably be based on academic and personal merit (as objectively as those merits can be judged) and not on subjective ADCOM preferences for liking applicants who play golf (or piano 😉).

Anyway, I'm still thinking about the issue I suppose, Prowler. None of my judgments are set in stone yet. Just a few thoughts.
 
Your point is well taken. However, I think there are subtle references to sexuality such as an applicant who chooses to wear a pin with a small pink triangle. This might be "aesthetically unpleasant" to ADCOMS but might nevertheless be indicative of a profound commitment to human rights, a supportive community, and a sense of identity. We're a little off the topic of ECs, here, though, and, to clarify, I'm not talkling about flagrant displays of bondage and sex toys. I guess the community that you associate with will sometimes have an influence on what kind of ECs you choose to pursue (commitment to underserved populations? rural medicine? etc.)

There is somewhat of a difference between writing down your hobbies on a secondary application (and what hobbies you include) and personal expressions of group allegiance, political affiliation, sexuality, etc. In terms of the latter, something to consider is that the prevailing definition of "professionalism" in the medical community these days is one who best maintains the image of "blank slate" during interactions with patients. Many would argue that in order to be an effective physician, you need to be able to appeal to the broadest range of patients; any personal displays or expressions of opinion, even in terms of a pin, could affect that aesthetic. It is possible that such a thing could be considered by an interviewer when determining an applicant's potential to be an effective physician.

For the record, I'm not taking a stance on that particular issue in this forum. I'm just putting it out there as something which I know to exist and something that should be considered, even if only to be dismissed after some thought, by those who are applying.
 
I definitely understand where L2D, Prowler, etc. are coming from. If I am hurt by putting down that I spend a lot of time waiting for athletic events or that I've had a girlfriend of five years, so be it. I'm sure there are admissions members that would frown upon it at the same time that there are admissions members who would think it's interesting. I guess luckily for me, there haven't been too many "tell us about yourself" questions.

What about getting asked about hobbies/interests during interviews? Am I just supposed to say I like to exercise and read books, omitting two of my bigger interests?
 
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It wasn't. When I'm asked to write something about myself, I write about myself. So what if I've spent a considerable amount of time waiting in line for athletic events? If I get any interviews, I hope I get asked about it. It's something interesting that not too many people do.

That's not the point. You're supposed to make yourself as boring as possible. Tell them about how much you love to sit at home and read books or play the piano. 😴

God forbid you be a normal 20 something who likes to play video games, get drunk, watch TV, attend concerts and sporting events. If i was being honest, those would be my top hobbies/interests.

Instead, like Law2Doc said, i'll be filling up those essays with some bs.
 
I probably didn't express my point clearly -- basically what I'm saying is this: If your hobby or sport shows dedication, talent, and intellectual involvement (and doesn't hurt others), why *should* ADCOMs have the right to say that some ECs are "better" than others?

Exactly. Why is reading some boring philosophy books so much better than playing video games? As long as you enjoy it, they shouldn't look down on it.

I agree with that, but I don't dare write my essay based on that thought. I'm writing nothing but made up, or half hearted, hobbies that are very conservative.
 
There is somewhat of a difference between writing down your hobbies on a secondary application (and what hobbies you include) and personal expressions of group allegiance, political affiliation, sexuality, etc. In terms of the latter, something to consider is that the prevailing definition of "professionalism" in the medical community these days is one who best maintains the image of "blank slate" during interactions with patients. Many would argue that in order to be an effective physician, you need to be able to appeal to the broadest range of patients; any personal displays or expressions of opinion, even in terms of a pin, could affect that aesthetic. It is possible that such a thing could be considered by an interviewer when determining an applicant's potential to be an effective physician.

For the record, I'm not taking a stance on that particular issue in this forum. I'm just putting it out there as something which I know to exist and something that should be considered, even if only to be dismissed after some thought, by those who are applying.

I definitely agree that professionalism is extremely important. I could not agree more. And ideally, we're "impartial consultants" for the health and well-being of patients. But doctors are also people, though.

Doctors express opinions on a wide variety of subjects -- from child abuse/neglect, to obesity treatments, to healthcare/insurance costs. They are passionate about different areas of human rights. For that reason, I don't think having 'broad appeal' is everything. Having insight into causes of and solutions to both social and medical problems is one of the most important gifts that a doctor can have -- and sometimes, it might just be that a little pink triangle pin is symbolic of a commitment to a cause (unpopular though it may be). Frankly, you can't please everybody these days.

Anyway, this is straying farther from the discussion of ECs than I had intended. But as an example, one of my close friends was a mentor for the Queer Resource group at my college. In some ways this is a 'controversial' EC. But clearly it gave him the opportunity to advise underclassmen, deal with confidential information, and act in a leadership capacity. While it might not be "aesthetically pleasing" to an ADCOM it was nevertheless an important activity for him.

The point to this rambling post is that basically, when ADCOMs ask for personal information like "what I do for fun"/"what ECs I have", they should be prepared to consider the merits of each answer as objectively as possible. And it may be up to the applicants to help explain WHY they feel that the hobby/EC contributed to their personal growth and development.
 
I definitely agree that professionalism is extremely important. I could not agree more. And ideally, we're "impartial consultants" for the health and well-being of patients. But doctors are also people, though.

Doctors express opinions on a wide variety of subjects -- from child abuse/neglect, to obesity treatments, to healthcare/insurance costs. They are passionate about different areas of human rights. For that reason, I don't think having 'broad appeal' is everything. Having insight into causes of and solutions to both social and medical problems is one of the most important gifts that a doctor can have -- and sometimes, it might just be that a little pink triangle pin is symbolic of a commitment to a cause (unpopular though it may be). Frankly, you can't please everybody these days.

Anyway, this is straying farther from the discussion of ECs than I had intended. But as an example, one of my close friends was a mentor for the Queer Resource group at my college. In some ways this is a 'controversial' EC. But clearly it gave him the opportunity to advise underclassmen, deal with confidential information, and act in a leadership capacity. While it might not be "aesthetically pleasing" to an ADCOM it was nevertheless an important activity for him.

The point to this rambling post is that basically, when ADCOMs ask for personal information like "what I do for fun"/"what ECs I have", they should be prepared to consider the merits of each answer as objectively as possible. And it may be up to the applicants to help explain WHY they feel that the hobby/EC contributed to their personal growth and development.

Again, I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with you since my opinion on the subject has no particular influence on the discussion. Which was why I said
LucidSplash said:
"For the record, I'm not taking a stance on that particular issue in this forum. I'm just putting it out there as something which I know to exist and something that should be considered, even if only to be dismissed after some thought, by those who are applying."
I do agree that "doctors are also people" but what I was trying to get across is that one of the prevailing opinions on professionalism is that doctors should be "all things to all men." Whether or not adcoms "should" consider the merits of each EC objectively was not my point - adcoms are people too and that will flavor those considerations.

The focus of my comments was on perceived manifestations of professionalism, many of which are intended to make patients as comfortable as possible. Remember that while you will be taught not to judge your patients, your patients will always be judging you, and many patients are bigots, prejudiced, leftists, fundamentalists, or any other extreme you can think of. Patients will come to you with preconceived notions of what someone wearing a pink triangle thinks, feels, does with their personal life, exposure to disease, and will subconsciously or consciously transfer that over to their opinion of you as a physician and your competence and ability to take care of their needs.

Hence the theory of being a blank slate - so that you can adequately earn the trust and provide exceptional care, even for the bigots. Again, no particular commentary from me on where I stand on that, simply the fact that many many many people running medical schools these days think the "blank slate" quality during patient interactions is an important characteristic needed to be a physician. They want you to be well-rounded, they just want you to be able to self-edit so that you can be an effective physician for the broadest range of patients.

OP, put whatever you like down for your ECs. Comments here about considering editing for some of the more "extreme" hobbies and forethought about what your hobbies say about you as a person, should be taken into consideration because the hobbies question is designed to help adcoms get a better overall picture of who you are outside of your academics and all the ECs you do because you know you have to have something to put on your applications. They want to see how well those things you choose to do "just for fun" fit into the picture you'd portrayed in the rest of your application. If your ECs on your AMCAS were all social, helping other people, volunteering with inner city kids, and your hobbies are all about being alone without human interaction, something will "feel" off in your application. They're looking to see how it all fits together.
 
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Can you guys start listing some hobbies/interests that I should put in my essay?

Just list good kiss ass hobbies and i'll adapt them for my essay. Maybe read a little about them online so I can talk about them in interviews.
 
Hmm...I can definitely see the point of the 'blank slate' idea. Sounds like it would afford physcians some protection at least for their private lives. Thanks for explaining the concept, LucidSplash.

I'd certainly be interested to know what ADCOMs think of it.

I'm starting to wonder how or if I will manage to balance my personal and professional interests as a physician (not because I wear pink triangle pins; just because I'm naturally an open and genuine person -- for better or for worse).
 
Put down SDN 😀
 
That's not the point. You're supposed to make yourself as boring as possible. Tell them about how much you love to sit at home and read books or play the piano. 😴

God forbid you be a normal 20 something who likes to play video games, get drunk, watch TV, attend concerts and sporting events. If i was being honest, those would be my top hobbies/interests.

Instead, like Law2Doc said, i'll be filling up those essays with some bs.

Disagree with this totally, notwithstanding that the poster purports to agree with me. You are supposed to make yourself as interesting as possible, but interesting to folks who aren't going to consider someone who plays video games or collects comic books particularly enthralling. Nor do they think sitting home reading is particularly interesting. The goal isn't to make yourself boring and play it safe. But nor do you want to portray yourself as an immature introvert, who spends his free time gaming. You have to know your audience, and demonstrate that you are unique and dynamic in a way that will impress a 50 year old clinician with a 70 hour work week. So if you collect anime, you'd better do it in a big way that gets you national recognition or earns you big money or I probably wouldn't mention it. Or if you play video games, you'd better be a beta tester or compete in tournaments or I wouldn't mention it. Or if you go to concerts or sporting events, you'd better be playing/performing, rather than a spectator, or it probably doesn't merit a mention. But no, nobody wants to hear that you sit at home and read books either. But if you wrote one, fantastic. The point is, there are people out there whose hobbies are impressive, and those are the folks who get points in this kind of essay. If a hobby isn't, then you have to be careful as to whether it makes you seem nerdy or immature OR BORING. Any of these can mean game over.
 
The point to this rambling post is that basically, when ADCOMs ask for personal information like "what I do for fun"/"what ECs I have", they should be prepared to consider the merits of each answer as objectively as possible. And it may be up to the applicants to help explain WHY they feel that the hobby/EC contributed to their personal growth and development.

They don't consider this stuff objectively. This is the subjective portion of your application. Folks on Adcom will be judging you and absolutely will be evaluating you based on whatever hobby you choose to ask them to consider. They are trying to decide if you would be a "good fit" for the med school, and someone they would like as a future colleague. You can absolutely try to explain how a hobby/EC contributed to your personal growth and development. But you start in a deeper hole for doing this if your hobby/EC is video games, TV or comic books, then if you actually do something they (50 year old clinicians) likely would consider interesting or cool.
 
They don't consider this stuff objectively.

I know -- that's why I made the comment in the first place. They should consider it as objectively as possible (i.e. let's change what we've got going on now). That's all.
 
I know -- that's why I made the comment in the first place. They should consider it as objectively as possible (i.e. let's change what we've got going on now). That's all.

Why change it? It makes sense that members of a profession should have a say in who else gets in. That's the fun of having an exclusive club.
 
I am leaving out of of my hobbies that might be construed as "immature"

Ex. Anime, Video Games, Magic: The Gathering, DnD...Ect.
 
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