Western Vs. NOVA

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I interviewed at both schools and have recently been accepted to both. I am not really choosing either but if I had to choose, it would be NOVA. I don't want to offend anybody but Western did not impress me at all. It was run down and Pomona is a DUMP. Sorry. Just what I was able to gather from the whole experience. Western has tons of opportunities to get into the community and the dean was fantastic, but NOVA's facilities were top notch and provide many opportunities of their own. Besides, you are only miles from South beach 😛 (hello ladies). I am from Cali but I did not particularly like Western. Just go with what you like most, what school gave you that "WOW" factor? Then just go for it. Best of luck. :luck: Play nice.
(Last one out of Cali, please bring the flag with them!!!) 😡


There are some really nice areas in pomona, speficially the surrounding area of the Clairemont colleges. Yes, there are some areas that aren't so appealing, but if you are willing to pay the extra buck you can live in a pretty nice neighborhood close to the Western campus.
 
Hey people, can we get some more up to date responses for this thread?
 
im curious as well. I loved Nova but am wondering if i should still check out western
 
I've been accepted at both schools, and my goal is to stay in California for residency. As a result, I'm probably going to go with WesternU on this one. All of my thoughts are from memory, so I may be missing details here and there. This post will come off as WesternU biased; I simply remember more from it.

Facilities:
NSU has more modern facilities overall, and I believe they have more simulation resources (dummies) compared to Western's standardized patients. though WesternU has improved with their opening of their Health Education Center and Patient Care Center. There are plenty of new lockers and study rooms now. Most classes should be recorded at WesternU through the Apreso system, but I believe NSU's are more on-and-off with their recordings.

Location:
NSU wins, since Ft. Lauderdale is in a nicer area. WesternU's location in Pomona isn't the best; there's a stretch of downtown which has that homey "Oldtown" feeling, but Pomona has plenty of shady-looking areas that you probably shouldn't hang around at night (i.e. prostitutes come out on Holt Ave.). I don't mind the area because I know that I'll either be on campus, at the gym in the Oldtown area, or at my non-Pomona apartment. The flipside of living in a not-so-pretty area is that there are cheap groceries around, such as at the El Super. NSU is wet heat, while Pomona is dry heat.

Curriculum:
NSU has a traditional curriculum, and they started implementing mandatory classes such as Medical Spanish (due to the prevalent Hispanic immigrant population in Ft. Lauderdale). The M1s I talked with were stressed during the tour, as administration had recently changed the frequency of exams from more weekly based to large cumulative ones, so they had to remember a lot more than previous classes. NSU and WesternU have interdisciplinary education, since their campuses house multiple health profession programs (DMD, Pharm, etc.). Attendance was enforced through ID card readers near the entrance to lecture halls.
WesternU characterizes their curriculum as hybrid case-based learning. The first year is akin to a traditional block-based curriculum (Anatomy, Biochem), with clinical medicine essentials and OMM running year round. The second year introduces PBL concepts like small groups; WesternU states that faculty will give you more guidance, questions, and handouts compared to typical PBL curriculums, and the whole class meets up once a week to realign groups on a common track. I wasn't sure of their attendance policy. WesternU has no specific COMLEX board preparation, while NSU works with one of the review companies (I think Kaplan) to provide COMLEX prep and test bank questions.

Clinical Rotations:
This is where I made my choice for WesternU over NSU. NSU has some great rotations with Broward General (it's huge and has liver transplant!), Sinai, and Jackson Memorial, but my M1 guides didn't have any personal experience with clinical rorations yet. I was very impressed with the responsibility that WesternU students were given at their rotation sites at Arrowhead Regional and Riverside, and the M4 I talked with gushed at the wide pathology and autonomy students had at their rotations. If you wanted to work hard, you could gain some great hands-on experience during your rotations.
I wasn't a big fan of NSU's 2 months of Family Medicine and 2 months of required Rural rotations (done usually at a rural area or at county jail). WesternU was more balanced in my opinion, and I could take an elective 3rd year before my Match application is due. WesternU also has many university hospitals (USC, UCLA, Loma Linda) nearby where I could do my away sub-internships in, which is important if I want to pursue a residency at these Southern California programs.

Community Service
I didn't receive much information at NSU about this, but I am aware that NSU students participate in community service electives and help out at health fairs. WesternU students have the Montclair Clinic, PCHAT, PHOP, Chinatown Clinic, and community health fairs.
Actually, WesternU was the reason I became aware of the DO field. I helped create a health fair for the city of Monterey Park, and we recruited WesternU students to provide services. Over 30 DO and podiatry students came to provide glucose, cholesterol, OMM, and podiatry screenings to the community; I was impressed by their dedication to serve, and my experience definitely influenced my decision to choose WesternU.

Perhaps someone with experience from NSU could chime in too. And remember: check each school's websites throughly, as there's a lot of information just waiting to be read about curriculum, rotations, and lifestyle.
 
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I've been accepted at both schools, and my goal is to stay in California for residency. As a result, I'm probably going to go with WesternU on this one. All of my thoughts are from memory, so I may be missing details here and there. This post will come off as WesternU biased; I simply remember more from it.

Facilities:
NSU has more modern facilities overall, and I believe they have more simulation resources (dummies) compared to Western's standardized patients. though WesternU has improved with their opening of their Health Education Center and Patient Care Center. There are plenty of new lockers and study rooms now. Most classes should be recorded at WesternU through the Apreso system, but I believe NSU's are more on-and-off with their recordings.

Location:
NSU wins, since Ft. Lauderdale is in a nicer area. WesternU's location in Pomona isn't the best; there's a stretch of downtown which has that homey "Oldtown" feeling, but Pomona has plenty of shady-looking areas that you probably shouldn't hang around at night (i.e. prostitutes come out on Holt Ave.). I don't mind the area because I know that I'll either be on campus, at the gym in the Oldtown area, or at my non-Pomona apartment. The flipside of living in a not-so-pretty area is that there are cheap groceries around, such as at the El Super. NSU is wet heat, while Pomona is dry heat.

Curriculum:
NSU has a traditional curriculum, and they started implementing mandatory classes such as Medical Spanish (due to the prevalent Hispanic immigrant population in Ft. Lauderdale). The M1s I talked with were stressed during the tour, as administration had recently changed the frequency of exams from more weekly based to large cumulative ones, so they had to remember a lot more than previous classes. NSU and WesternU have interdisciplinary education, since their campuses house multiple health profession programs (DMD, Pharm, etc.). Attendance was enforced through ID card readers near the entrance to lecture halls.
WesternU characterizes their curriculum as hybrid case-based learning. The first year is akin to a traditional block-based curriculum (Anatomy, Biochem), with clinical medicine essentials and OMM running year round. The second year introduces PBL concepts like small groups; WesternU states that faculty will give you more guidance, questions, and handouts compared to typical PBL curriculums, and the whole class meets up once a week to realign groups on a common track. I wasn't sure of their attendance policy. WesternU has no specific COMLEX board preparation, while NSU works with one of the review companies (I think Kaplan) to provide COMLEX prep and test bank questions.

Clinical Rotations:
This is where I made my choice for WesternU over NSU. NSU has some great rotations with Broward General (it's huge and has liver transplant!), Sinai, and Jackson Memorial, but my M1 guides didn't have any personal experience with clinical rorations yet. I was very impressed with the responsibility that WesternU students were given at their rotation sites at Arrowhead Regional and Riverside, and the M4 I talked with gushed at the wide pathology and autonomy students had at their rotations. If you wanted to work hard, you could gain some great hands-on experience during your rotations.
I wasn't a big fan of NSU's 2 months of Family Medicine and 2 months of required Rural rotations (done usually at a rural area or at county jail). WesternU was more balanced in my opinion, and I could take an elective 3rd year before my Match application is due. WesternU also has many university hospitals (USC, UCLA, Loma Linda) nearby where I could do my away sub-internships in, which is important if I want to pursue a residency at these Southern California programs.

Community Service
I didn't receive much information at NSU about this, but I am aware that NSU students participate in community service electives and help out at health fairs. WesternU students have the Montclair Clinic, PCHAT, PHOP, Chinatown Clinic, and community health fairs.
Actually, WesternU was the reason I became aware of the DO field. I helped create a health fair for the city of Monterey Park, and we recruited WesternU students to provide services. Over 30 DO and podiatry students came to provide glucose, cholesterol, OMM, and podiatry screenings to the community; I was impressed by their dedication to serve, and my experience definitely influenced my decision to choose WesternU.

Perhaps someone with experience from NSU could chime in too. And remember: check each school's websites throughly, as there's a lot of information just waiting to be read about curriculum, rotations, and lifestyle.

Thanks for the lengthy review Jinobi....
 
Curriculum:
The M1s I talked with were stressed during the tour, as administration had recently changed the frequency of exams from more weekly based to large cumulative ones, so they had to remember a lot more than previous classes.

1-year bump! Is this still true about the testing schedule? I don't know if I'm weird but I like to have more frequent tests rather than huge/cumulative ones. Does anyone know if this has changed in the past year?
 
1-year bump! Is this still true about the testing schedule? I don't know if I'm weird but I like to have more frequent tests rather than huge/cumulative ones. Does anyone know if this has changed in the past year?

Wow, it's been a while since I've written this.

My M1 friends at COMP say they have weekly quizzes. Any M1s here to confirm?
 
Nevermind. It's an old thread.
 
I cannot wait to come back to my home state and brush up on my Spanish. It's been too damn long!
 
I've been accepted at both schools, and my goal is to stay in California for residency. As a result, I'm probably going to go with WesternU on this one. All of my thoughts are from memory, so I may be missing details here and there. This post will come off as WesternU biased; I simply remember more from it.

Facilities:
NSU has more modern facilities overall, and I believe they have more simulation resources (dummies) compared to Western's standardized patients. though WesternU has improved with their opening of their Health Education Center and Patient Care Center. There are plenty of new lockers and study rooms now. Most classes should be recorded at WesternU through the Apreso system, but I believe NSU's are more on-and-off with their recordings.

Nova has both standardized patients and simulators. All of your exams will be on standardized patients 1st year, and a mix of both during your second. NSUs recording system is indeed pretty dicey-and they're constantly finding excuses to not put the recordings up.

Location:
NSU wins, since Ft. Lauderdale is in a nicer area. WesternU's location in Pomona isn't the best; there's a stretch of downtown which has that homey "Oldtown" feeling, but Pomona has plenty of shady-looking areas that you probably shouldn't hang around at night (i.e. prostitutes come out on Holt Ave.). I don't mind the area because I know that I'll either be on campus, at the gym in the Oldtown area, or at my non-Pomona apartment. The flipside of living in a not-so-pretty area is that there are cheap groceries around, such as at the El Super. NSU is wet heat, while Pomona is dry heat.

NSU is really wet heat only a few months out of the year, from about late april until late september. The rest of the year is pretty much like it is now, with around 50-70% humidity (like SoCal, for all you west coasters) and ranging from 60-80 degrees during the day.

Curriculum:
NSU has a traditional curriculum, and they started implementing mandatory classes such as Medical Spanish (due to the prevalent Hispanic immigrant population in Ft. Lauderdale). The M1s I talked with were stressed during the tour, as administration had recently changed the frequency of exams from more weekly based to large cumulative ones, so they had to remember a lot more than previous classes. NSU and WesternU have interdisciplinary education, since their campuses house multiple health profession programs (DMD, Pharm, etc.). Attendance was enforced through ID card readers near the entrance to lecture halls.
WesternU characterizes their curriculum as hybrid case-based learning. The first year is akin to a traditional block-based curriculum (Anatomy, Biochem), with clinical medicine essentials and OMM running year round. The second year introduces PBL concepts like small groups; WesternU states that faculty will give you more guidance, questions, and handouts compared to typical PBL curriculums, and the whole class meets up once a week to realign groups on a common track. I wasn't sure of their attendance policy. WesternU has no specific COMLEX board preparation, while NSU works with one of the review companies (I think Kaplan) to provide COMLEX prep and test bank questions.

Spanish is not mandatory, and exams are definitely not too cumulative. You have an exam or two every week. Also, interdisciplinary education straight up does not exist here. You attend classes in the same building as the opt, dental, and pharm people, but you'll probably never talk to any of them in your two years on campus. Keep in mind that the tour guides here btw are half fed what to tell you. We get community service hours for doing it, so they don't want to irk the admin.

Clinical Rotations:
This is where I made my choice for WesternU over NSU. NSU has some great rotations with Broward General (it's huge and has liver transplant!), Sinai, and Jackson Memorial, but my M1 guides didn't have any personal experience with clinical rorations yet. I was very impressed with the responsibility that WesternU students were given at their rotation sites at Arrowhead Regional and Riverside, and the M4 I talked with gushed at the wide pathology and autonomy students had at their rotations. If you wanted to work hard, you could gain some great hands-on experience during your rotations.
I wasn't a big fan of NSU's 2 months of Family Medicine and 2 months of required Rural rotations (done usually at a rural area or at county jail). WesternU was more balanced in my opinion, and I could take an elective 3rd year before my Match application is due. WesternU also has many university hospitals (USC, UCLA, Loma Linda) nearby where I could do my away sub-internships in, which is important if I want to pursue a residency at these Southern California programs.

About the rural-while it's true that there are a couple of required months, it's rarely an obstacle for people. Auditions are still very doable, since most people have their rurals in the summer before 4th year or after residency interview time is over. The 3rd year rotations are what sold me--while you won't have electives it's really nice to not have to move around at all. They're all at great hospitals too.


Community Service
I didn't receive much information at NSU about this, but I am aware that NSU students participate in community service electives and help out at health fairs. WesternU students have the Montclair Clinic, PCHAT, PHOP, Chinatown Clinic, and community health fairs.
Actually, WesternU was the reason I became aware of the DO field. I helped create a health fair for the city of Monterey Park, and we recruited WesternU students to provide services. Over 30 DO and podiatry students came to provide glucose, cholesterol, OMM, and podiatry screenings to the community; I was impressed by their dedication to serve, and my experience definitely influenced my decision to choose WesternU.

Perhaps someone with experience from NSU could chime in too. And remember: check each school's websites throughly, as there's a lot of information just waiting to be read about curriculum, rotations, and lifestyle.

NSUs website is ****. Absolute ****. Half of the info on there is out of date, and the rest doesn't really tell you anything useful. We also don't have com service 'electives' per se, but we do have an 80 hour service requirement that we have to meet by the end of our second year. This can be accomplished through any of the dozens of opportunities that clubs and the school will put on throughout the year. If you do a week-long international mission trip that can count for about 40 hours, just to give an example.
 
I thought there were some excellent infos in this thread. Beware, it's an old one.

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