What are my chances of getting into an MD school?

[Batman's Dr.]

I am a resident of the state of Wisconsin and I am currently in an SMP at a reputable university with a guaranteed interview. I am on track to get somewhere around a 4.0 for my first semester (fingers crossed) and I am hoping to carry that trend into the following year. I am a first-generation college student as well and have a pretty strong upward trend at the end of my undergraduate career. Do yall think I have a chance at some MD schools without having to retake my MCAT?

3.01 SGPA
3.23 CGPA (~3.8 GPA in my last two years)
509 x 2 (124,129,126,130) --> (125,127,127,130)


ECS are as follows
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340 hours
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Volunteering (300 hours in total and still volunteering)

 

[Faha]

You could receive MD interviews but should also apply to DO schools. For MD schools I suggest these:
U Wisconsin
Medical College Wisconsin
Loyola
Rosalind Franklin
Rush
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Creighton
TCU-UNT
NOVA MD
George Washington
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Seton Hall
New York Medical College
Albany
Vermont
Quinnipiac
I suggest these DO schools:
DMU-COM
CCOM
KCU-COM
ATSU-KCOM
MU-COM
AZCOM
TUNCOM
LECOM (all schools)
PCOM (all schools)
ACOM
WVSOM
UP-KYCOM
WCU-COM

 

[Batman's Dr.]

So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.

 

[Faha]

So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.

The GPA-MCAT grid shows you have ~1/3 chance for a MD acceptance.

 

[Batman's Dr.]

The GPA-MCAT grid shows you have ~1/3 chance for a MD acceptance.

This is taking into consideration Grad school GPA?

 

[Goro]

So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.

I'm a bit less sanguine.

Have DO schools on your list.

 

[Batman's Dr.]

I'm a bit less sanguine.

Have DO schools on your list.

Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.

 

[Goro]

Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.

Most reinventors have 513+ MCATs for MD. Chances are best with your state schools.

You're fine for DO, very fine

 

[mikesheree]

Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.

$40k just so you thought you could get an MD rather than DO? My friend, we/they both learn and do the same thing!
There may be a difference in style or philosophy but you see that across the spectrum of MD schools as well. I’ve seen DO’s in every specialty I can think of. Y’all need to drop these pre-conceived notions about what physicians (DO and MD) do. I would send a lump of coal to whoever told you it was a good idea to throw away 40 K for nada.

 

[Goro]

It's also worth mentioning that any chance of getting INTO a medical school is 100% on you. We can only advise as to chances for IIs.

 

[Batman's Dr.]

$40k just so you thought you could get an MD rather than DO? My friend, we/they both learn and do the same thing!
There may be a difference in style or philosophy but you see that across the spectrum of MD schools as well. I’ve seen DO’s in every specialty I can think of. Y’all need to drop these pre-conceived notions about what physicians (DO and MD) do. I would send a lump of coal to whoever told you it was a good idea to throw away 40 K for nada.

I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.

 

[Batman's Dr.]

It's also worth mentioning that any chance of getting INTO a medical school is 100% on you. We can only advise as to chances for IIs.

Thank you for your response and your assistance on this. I appreciate you taking the time to help others. I definitely agree, the rest is on me. Appreciate ur help

 

[Calizboosted76]

I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.

AOA international licensure summary[42]

Country	Year of latest policy	Medical practice rights	Requirements for licensure
Argentina	2006	Unlimited	Foreign physicians must submit credentials to various agencies and then appear before any of the National Universities in order to have their diploma recognized.
Australia	2013	Unlimited	According to documents published online, the Medical Board of Australia has "agreed to accept the DO USA as a primary medical qualification for the purposes of medical registration provided that the DO USA was awarded by a medical school which has been accredited by the Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation".[43]
Austria	2009	Unlimited	Hospital must have position unable to be filled by Austrian physician.
Bahamas	2004	Unlimited	US license recognized.
Bahrain	2010	Unlimited	US license recognized.
Barbados	1995	Limited	Osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) only.
Belize	2009	Unlimited	Must complete a Belizean residency for permanent license eligibility.
Bermuda	1997	Unlimited	Required at least 2 years of GME and examination or interview by the Council's Examination Committee. Non-Bermudans must have approval from the Ministry of Labour & Home Affairs to work on the island.
Botswana	2019	Unlimited
Brazil	2007	Unlimited	Completion of Brazilian board exam, establishing residency & some training in Brazilian hospital is required.
Canada	Alberta		Unlimited	Requires at least 2 years of GME accredited by the ACGME or AOA and must have passed the Universities Coordinating Council Exam, a basic sciences exam, and have passed all three parts of the LMCC.
British Columbia		Unlimited	Requires at least 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME, completed at least 1 year of GME in Canada, passed all three parts of the LMCC.
Manitoba		Unlimited	US license recognized.
New Brunswick		Unlimited	Requires at least 2 years of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME and have passed all 3 parts of the LMCC. Reciprocity pathway for DO physicians with a Maine license.
Newfoundland		Unlimited	The Medical Act 2011 allows full licensure of osteopathic physicians, both for the country's full registry & its educational registry.
NW Territories		Unlimited	US license recognized.
Nova Scotia		Unlimited	Requires a Canadian or ACGME residency.
Ontario		Unlimited	Requires a Canadian or ACGME residency.
Prince Edward Island		Unlimited
Quebec		Unlimited	Requires 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or ACGME, 1 year of GME in Quebec passed the written, oral and clinical board examination of the College of Family Physicians of Canada and must speak French fluently.
Saskatchewan		Unlimited
Yukon		Unlimited	US license recognized.
Cayman Islands (UK)	1983	Unlimited	US license recognized.
Central African Republic	1990	Unlimited	US licensure and annual attendance at the National Congress for Physicians.
Chile	2008	Unlimited	A written exam in Spanish is required, besides a series of practical tests involving common procedures (CPR, intubation, lumbar puncture, etc.).
China	2009	Unlimited	United States DO physicians are permitted to apply for short-term medical practice licensure.
Colombia	1996	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians.
Costa Rica	2009	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians.
Dominican Republic	2000	Unlimited	US license & board certification recognized.
Ecuador	1990	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Reciprocity exists with most Latin American countries.
Eswatini	2019	Unlimited
Ethiopia	2011	Unlimited	Must renew the license every 5 years.
Finland	1996	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians.
France	2009	Limited	OMM only. The French government does not recognize the full scope of practice osteopathic medicine.
The Gambia	2011	Unlimited
Germany	2008	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Depends on need. Decisions made on individual basis.
Ghana	2019	Unlimited
Greece	2009	Unlimited	Greek citizenship required, unless, in rare instances, there exists a crucial need for certain types of specialist physicians. Further, a work permit must be obtained, a difficult task, and speaking Greek is an unwritten requirement. These are the same requirements as other foreign physicians.
Grenada	2007	Unlimited	US license recognized.
Guyana	1996	Unlimited	Case-by case basis.
Honduras	2009	Unlimited	National Autonomous University must accredit all foreign titles. After accreditation is completed, the applicant must seek registration with the Medical College of Honduras (MCH).
Hong Kong	1998	Unlimited	Written examination. Personal interview. Training approval.
India	2012	Unlimited	Unlimited for short-term work.
Indonesia	1992	Unlimited and restricted	Foreign physicians affiliated with a university project or a mission have unlimited practice rights. No private practice allowed.
Iran	2009	Unlimited	Iranian citizens who have received both the DO degree from a US osteopathic school and are board certified in a clinical specialty. Osteopathic degrees from other countries are not accepted. The process of evaluation of the medical education and clinical training is under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Health and Medical Education (MoHME).
Israel	2007	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Hebrew required.
Italy	2009	Unlimited	Physicians are discouraged from seeking employment in Italy without firm contracts and work permits. If there is a US state law outlining reciprocity with Italy, a statement to this effect from the Italian Consulate will warrant better chances.
Jamaica	1994	Limited and restricted	DO physicians were permitted to supply some services while participating in a specific mission project.
Jordan	2012	Unlimited
Kenya	2007	Unlimited
Lebanon	2004	Unlimited	AOA letter required. Examination required.
Lesotho	1990s	Unlimited	Applicants must appear before the Medical, Dental and Pharmacy Council to answer some medical questions and present their credentials. The Council will also make a recommendation about where the applicant's skills would be most helpful in the country.
Liberia	1990s	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians.
Luxembourg	1987	Unlimited	The practice of medicine in Luxembourg by a doctor who is not an EU national is very rare.
Malta	2010	Unlimited	Accepted on a case by case basis if training meets the minimum educational requirements for physicians in the EU (Article 24 of Directive 2005/36/EC). Examination required.
Malawi	1991	Unlimited
Mauritius	2019	Unlimited
Mexico	2011	Unlimited & Restricted	Health Secretary Quijano of the Yucatán State of Mexico signed a Proclamation recognizing US-trained osteopathic physicians in that state; DO physicians can now obtain short-term & long-term licensure through the Health Secretary's office. All other Mexican states require work permits - only available in conjunction with the association of a short-term medical mission project.
Micronesia	1993	Unlimited	Statutes specifically include DOs
Namibia	2019	Unlimited
Nepal	2008	Unlimited	Approval by the Nepal Medical Council & a visa from the Immigration Department.
Netherlands	2009	Unlimited	Same requirements as other foreign physicians.
New Zealand	2008	Unlimited	Hearing required. Case-by-case basis.
Nigeria	2010	Unlimited	US licensure and completion of specialty training required.
Norway	2009	Limited	OMM only, but DOs may apply for recognition as medical doctors.[44]
Pakistan	2011	Unlimited	US osteopathic medical schools meet the Medical and Dental Council's statutory regulations for international medical graduates. Scope is unlimited, but practice setting may be restricted
Panama	2009	Unlimited	Panamanian citizenship required.
Papua New Guinea	2010	Unlimited	Work permit required. Short-term or a long-term volunteer service license also available.
Peru	2011	Unlimited	Process for licensure is the same as for other IMGs.
Poland	2009	Unlimited	Examination & Polish required.
Qatar	2011	Unlimited	Must possess a valid work visa, and pass written and oral examinations.
Rwanda	2019	Unlimited
Russia	2006	Unlimited	Foreign physicians make arrangements to practice through Russian sponsors, such as hospitals or businesses.
Saint Lucia	2000	Unlimited	US credentials recognized.
Saudi Arabia	2009	Unlimited	Foreign physician must be recruited by a government agency, a corporation or a private health care entity, such as a hospital.
Seychelles	2019	Unlimited
Sierra Leone	1993	Unlimited	Notarized US credentials recognized.
South Africa	2019	Unlimited	U.S. degree recognized. The AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians.
South Sudan	2019	Unlimited
Sweden	2005	Unlimited	US license recognized.
Taiwan	2008	Unlimited	The ROC government recognizes American DO degrees. Applicants must take Taiwan Examination Yuan to obtain Taiwanese license.
Tanzania	1985	Unlimited	US license and GME recognized. Temporary work permits are available.
Uganda	2008	Unlimited
United Arab Emirates	2009	Unlimited	Examination required.
United Kingdom	2005	Unlimited	US-trained DO physicians are eligible for full medical practice rights. Applicants must pass the PLAB examination and work for one year in the National Health Service. Following that year, the applicants will be able to apply for a license to practice privately. For GMC registration as a specialist, postgraduate training will need to be separately recognized by the Postgraduate Medical Education and Training Board (PMETB). GOsC registration is also required.
Venezuela	2007	Unlimited	Recognized status under the law of the practice of medicine.
Vietnam	1995	Unlimited	Foreign physicians can fill vacancies in hospitals that are in need of certain specialists.
Zambia	2009	Unlimited	US licensure required.
Zimbabwe	2019	Unlimited	The AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians.

Not sure how accurate this is but to each their own