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The GPA-MCAT grid shows you have ~1/3 chance for a MD acceptance.So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.
This is taking into consideration Grad school GPA?The GPA-MCAT grid shows you have ~1/3 chance for a MD acceptance.
I'm a bit less sanguine.So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.
Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.I'm a bit less sanguine.
Have DO schools on your list.
Most reinventors have 513+ MCATs for MD. Chances are best with your state schools.Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.
Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.
I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.$40k just so you thought you could get an MD rather than DO? My friend, we/they both learn and do the same thing!
There may be a difference in style or philosophy but you see that across the spectrum of MD schools as well. I’ve seen DO’s in every specialty I can think of. Y’all need to drop these pre-conceived notions about what physicians (DO and MD) do. I would send a lump of coal to whoever told you it was a good idea to throw away 40 K for nada.
Thank you for your response and your assistance on this. I appreciate you taking the time to help others. I definitely agree, the rest is on me. Appreciate ur helpIt's also worth mentioning that any chance of getting INTO a medical school is 100% on you. We can only advise as to chances for IIs.
AOA international licensure summary[42]I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.
Country | Year of latest policy | Medical practice rights | Requirements for licensure | |
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Argentina | 2006 | Unlimited | Foreign physicians must submit credentials to various agencies and then appear before any of the National Universities in order to have their diploma recognized. | |
Australia | 2013 | Unlimited | According to documents published online, the Medical Board of Australia has "agreed to accept the DO USA as a primary medical qualification for the purposes of medical registration provided that the DO USA was awarded by a medical school which has been accredited by the Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation".[43] | |
Austria | 2009 | Unlimited | Hospital must have position unable to be filled by Austrian physician. | |
Bahamas | 2004 | Unlimited | US license recognized. | |
Bahrain | 2010 | Unlimited | US license recognized. | |
Barbados | 1995 | Limited | Osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) only. | |
Belize | 2009 | Unlimited | Must complete a Belizean residency for permanent license eligibility. | |
Bermuda | 1997 | Unlimited | Required at least 2 years of GME and examination or interview by the Council's Examination Committee. Non-Bermudans must have approval from the Ministry of Labour & Home Affairs to work on the island. | |
Botswana | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Brazil | 2007 | Unlimited | Completion of Brazilian board exam, establishing residency & some training in Brazilian hospital is required. | |
Canada | Alberta | Unlimited | Requires at least 2 years of GME accredited by the ACGME or AOA and must have passed the Universities Coordinating Council Exam, a basic sciences exam, and have passed all three parts of the LMCC. | |
British Columbia | Unlimited | Requires at least 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME, completed at least 1 year of GME in Canada, passed all three parts of the LMCC. | ||
Manitoba | Unlimited | US license recognized. | ||
New Brunswick | Unlimited | Requires at least 2 years of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME and have passed all 3 parts of the LMCC. Reciprocity pathway for DO physicians with a Maine license. | ||
Newfoundland | Unlimited | The Medical Act 2011 allows full licensure of osteopathic physicians, both for the country's full registry & its educational registry. | ||
NW Territories | Unlimited | US license recognized. | ||
Nova Scotia | Unlimited | Requires a Canadian or ACGME residency. | ||
Ontario | Unlimited | Requires a Canadian or ACGME residency. | ||
Prince Edward Island | Unlimited | |||
Quebec | Unlimited | Requires 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or ACGME, 1 year of GME in Quebec passed the written, oral and clinical board examination of the College of Family Physicians of Canada and must speak French fluently. | ||
Saskatchewan | Unlimited | |||
Yukon | Unlimited | US license recognized. | ||
Cayman Islands (UK) | 1983 | Unlimited | US license recognized. | |
Central African Republic | 1990 | Unlimited | US licensure and annual attendance at the National Congress for Physicians. | |
Chile | 2008 | Unlimited | A written exam in Spanish is required, besides a series of practical tests involving common procedures (CPR, intubation, lumbar puncture, etc.). | |
China | 2009 | Unlimited | United States DO physicians are permitted to apply for short-term medical practice licensure. | |
Colombia | 1996 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
Costa Rica | 2009 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
Dominican Republic | 2000 | Unlimited | US license & board certification recognized. | |
Ecuador | 1990 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Reciprocity exists with most Latin American countries. | |
Eswatini | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Ethiopia | 2011 | Unlimited | Must renew the license every 5 years. | |
Finland | 1996 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
France | 2009 | Limited | OMM only. The French government does not recognize the full scope of practice osteopathic medicine. | |
The Gambia | 2011 | Unlimited | ||
Germany | 2008 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Depends on need. Decisions made on individual basis. | |
Ghana | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Greece | 2009 | Unlimited | Greek citizenship required, unless, in rare instances, there exists a crucial need for certain types of specialist physicians. Further, a work permit must be obtained, a difficult task, and speaking Greek is an unwritten requirement. These are the same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
Grenada | 2007 | Unlimited | US license recognized. | |
Guyana | 1996 | Unlimited | Case-by case basis. | |
Honduras | 2009 | Unlimited | National Autonomous University must accredit all foreign titles. After accreditation is completed, the applicant must seek registration with the Medical College of Honduras (MCH). | |
Hong Kong | 1998 | Unlimited | Written examination. Personal interview. Training approval. | |
India | 2012 | Unlimited | Unlimited for short-term work. | |
Indonesia | 1992 | Unlimited and restricted | Foreign physicians affiliated with a university project or a mission have unlimited practice rights. No private practice allowed. | |
Iran | 2009 | Unlimited | Iranian citizens who have received both the DO degree from a US osteopathic school and are board certified in a clinical specialty. Osteopathic degrees from other countries are not accepted. The process of evaluation of the medical education and clinical training is under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Health and Medical Education (MoHME). | |
Israel | 2007 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. Hebrew required. | |
Italy | 2009 | Unlimited | Physicians are discouraged from seeking employment in Italy without firm contracts and work permits. If there is a US state law outlining reciprocity with Italy, a statement to this effect from the Italian Consulate will warrant better chances. | |
Jamaica | 1994 | Limited and restricted | DO physicians were permitted to supply some services while participating in a specific mission project. | |
Jordan | 2012 | Unlimited | ||
Kenya | 2007 | Unlimited | ||
Lebanon | 2004 | Unlimited | AOA letter required. Examination required. | |
Lesotho | 1990s | Unlimited | Applicants must appear before the Medical, Dental and Pharmacy Council to answer some medical questions and present their credentials. The Council will also make a recommendation about where the applicant's skills would be most helpful in the country. | |
Liberia | 1990s | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
Luxembourg | 1987 | Unlimited | The practice of medicine in Luxembourg by a doctor who is not an EU national is very rare. | |
Malta | 2010 | Unlimited | Accepted on a case by case basis if training meets the minimum educational requirements for physicians in the EU (Article 24 of Directive 2005/36/EC). Examination required. | |
Malawi | 1991 | Unlimited | ||
Mauritius | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Mexico | 2011 | Unlimited & Restricted | Health Secretary Quijano of the Yucatán State of Mexico signed a Proclamation recognizing US-trained osteopathic physicians in that state; DO physicians can now obtain short-term & long-term licensure through the Health Secretary's office. All other Mexican states require work permits - only available in conjunction with the association of a short-term medical mission project. | |
Micronesia | 1993 | Unlimited | Statutes specifically include DOs | |
Namibia | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Nepal | 2008 | Unlimited | Approval by the Nepal Medical Council & a visa from the Immigration Department. | |
Netherlands | 2009 | Unlimited | Same requirements as other foreign physicians. | |
New Zealand | 2008 | Unlimited | Hearing required. Case-by-case basis. | |
Nigeria | 2010 | Unlimited | US licensure and completion of specialty training required. | |
Norway | 2009 | Limited | OMM only, but DOs may apply for recognition as medical doctors.[44] | |
Pakistan | 2011 | Unlimited | US osteopathic medical schools meet the Medical and Dental Council's statutory regulations for international medical graduates. Scope is unlimited, but practice setting may be restricted | |
Panama | 2009 | Unlimited | Panamanian citizenship required. | |
Papua New Guinea | 2010 | Unlimited | Work permit required. Short-term or a long-term volunteer service license also available. | |
Peru | 2011 | Unlimited | Process for licensure is the same as for other IMGs. | |
Poland | 2009 | Unlimited | Examination & Polish required. | |
Qatar | 2011 | Unlimited | Must possess a valid work visa, and pass written and oral examinations. | |
Rwanda | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Russia | 2006 | Unlimited | Foreign physicians make arrangements to practice through Russian sponsors, such as hospitals or businesses. | |
Saint Lucia | 2000 | Unlimited | US credentials recognized. | |
Saudi Arabia | 2009 | Unlimited | Foreign physician must be recruited by a government agency, a corporation or a private health care entity, such as a hospital. | |
Seychelles | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Sierra Leone | 1993 | Unlimited | Notarized US credentials recognized. | |
South Africa | 2019 | Unlimited | U.S. degree recognized. The AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians. | |
South Sudan | 2019 | Unlimited | ||
Sweden | 2005 | Unlimited | US license recognized. | |
Taiwan | 2008 | Unlimited | The ROC government recognizes American DO degrees. Applicants must take Taiwan Examination Yuan to obtain Taiwanese license. | |
Tanzania | 1985 | Unlimited | US license and GME recognized. Temporary work permits are available. | |
Uganda | 2008 | Unlimited | ||
United Arab Emirates | 2009 | Unlimited | Examination required. | |
United Kingdom | 2005 | Unlimited | US-trained DO physicians are eligible for full medical practice rights. Applicants must pass the PLAB examination and work for one year in the National Health Service. Following that year, the applicants will be able to apply for a license to practice privately. For GMC registration as a specialist, postgraduate training will need to be separately recognized by the Postgraduate Medical Education and Training Board (PMETB). GOsC registration is also required. | |
Venezuela | 2007 | Unlimited | Recognized status under the law of the practice of medicine. | |
Vietnam | 1995 | Unlimited | Foreign physicians can fill vacancies in hospitals that are in need of certain specialists. | |
Zambia | 2009 | Unlimited | US licensure required. | |
Zimbabwe | 2019 | Unlimited | The AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians. |