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I am a resident of the state of Wisconsin and I am currently in an SMP at a reputable university with a guaranteed interview. I am on track to get somewhere around a 4.0 for my first semester (fingers crossed) and I am hoping to carry that trend into the following year. I am a first-generation college student as well and have a pretty strong upward trend at the end of my undergraduate career. Do yall think I have a chance at some MD schools without having to retake my MCAT?

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You could receive MD interviews but should also apply to DO schools. For MD schools I suggest these:
U Wisconsin
Medical College Wisconsin
Loyola
Rosalind Franklin
Rush
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Creighton
TCU-UNT
NOVA MD
George Washington
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Seton Hall
New York Medical College
Albany
Vermont
Quinnipiac
I suggest these DO schools:
DMU-COM
CCOM
KCU-COM
ATSU-KCOM
MU-COM
AZCOM
TUNCOM
LECOM (all schools)
PCOM (all schools)
ACOM
WVSOM
UP-KYCOM
WCU-COM
 
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So are you saying id have a decent chance at getting interviews there ? I really appreciate your response btw.
 
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I'm a bit less sanguine.

Have DO schools on your list.
Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.
 

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Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.
Most reinventors have 513+ MCATs for MD. Chances are best with your state schools.

You're fine for DO, very fine
 

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Do you mind if I ask what is the cause of your lack of optimism? I would have applied DO without pursuing an SMP if I was interested in pursuing DO (not that DO is out of the question but I would not have paid an extra 40k). But I applied to a pretty decent SMP and worked my butt off for a 4.0 so I was hoping that would at least give me a better chance.

$40k just so you thought you could get an MD rather than DO? My friend, we/they both learn and do the same thing!
There may be a difference in style or philosophy but you see that across the spectrum of MD schools as well. I’ve seen DO’s in every specialty I can think of. Y’all need to drop these pre-conceived notions about what physicians (DO and MD) do. I would send a lump of coal to whoever told you it was a good idea to throw away 40 K for nada.
 
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$40k just so you thought you could get an MD rather than DO? My friend, we/they both learn and do the same thing!
There may be a difference in style or philosophy but you see that across the spectrum of MD schools as well. I’ve seen DO’s in every specialty I can think of. Y’all need to drop these pre-conceived notions about what physicians (DO and MD) do. I would send a lump of coal to whoever told you it was a good idea to throw away 40 K for nada.
I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.
 
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It's also worth mentioning that any chance of getting INTO a medical school is 100% on you. We can only advise as to chances for IIs.
Thank you for your response and your assistance on this. I appreciate you taking the time to help others. I definitely agree, the rest is on me. Appreciate ur help
 
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I realize what I said my have come off as disrespectful towards people who are in DO schools or people who have graduated from DO schools, and I apologize for that. My intention was not to come off like that at all. I just think there is a bit more uncertainty when it comes to DOs, especially considering the residency merger. Not to mention that I hope to practice over seas someday and I know that DOs are not internationally recognized which is a travesty in and of itself.
AOA international licensure summary[42]
CountryYear of latest policyMedical practice rightsRequirements for licensure
Argentina2006UnlimitedForeign physicians must submit credentials to various agencies and then appear before any of the National Universities in order to have their diploma recognized.
Australia2013UnlimitedAccording to documents published online, the Medical Board of Australia has "agreed to accept the DO USA as a primary medical qualification for the purposes of medical registration provided that the DO USA was awarded by a medical school which has been accredited by the Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation".[43]
Austria2009UnlimitedHospital must have position unable to be filled by Austrian physician.
Bahamas2004UnlimitedUS license recognized.
Bahrain2010UnlimitedUS license recognized.
Barbados1995LimitedOsteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM) only.
Belize2009UnlimitedMust complete a Belizean residency for permanent license eligibility.
Bermuda1997UnlimitedRequired at least 2 years of GME and examination or interview by the Council's Examination Committee. Non-Bermudans must have approval from the Ministry of Labour & Home Affairs to work on the island.
Botswana2019Unlimited
Brazil2007UnlimitedCompletion of Brazilian board exam, establishing residency & some training in Brazilian hospital is required.
CanadaAlbertaUnlimitedRequires at least 2 years of GME accredited by the ACGME or AOA and must have passed the Universities Coordinating Council Exam, a basic sciences exam, and have passed all three parts of the LMCC.
British ColumbiaUnlimitedRequires at least 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME, completed at least 1 year of GME in Canada, passed all three parts of the LMCC.
ManitobaUnlimitedUS license recognized.
New BrunswickUnlimitedRequires at least 2 years of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME and have passed all 3 parts of the LMCC. Reciprocity pathway for DO physicians with a Maine license.
NewfoundlandUnlimitedThe Medical Act 2011 allows full licensure of osteopathic physicians, both for the country's full registry & its educational registry.
NW TerritoriesUnlimitedUS license recognized.
Nova ScotiaUnlimitedRequires a Canadian or ACGME residency.
OntarioUnlimitedRequires a Canadian or ACGME residency.
Prince Edward IslandUnlimited
QuebecUnlimitedRequires 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or ACGME, 1 year of GME in Quebec passed the written, oral and clinical board examination of the College of Family Physicians of Canada and must speak French fluently.
SaskatchewanUnlimited
YukonUnlimitedUS license recognized.
Cayman Islands (UK)1983UnlimitedUS license recognized.
Central African Republic1990UnlimitedUS licensure and annual attendance at the National Congress for Physicians.
Chile2008UnlimitedA written exam in Spanish is required, besides a series of practical tests involving common procedures (CPR, intubation, lumbar puncture, etc.).
China2009UnlimitedUnited States DO physicians are permitted to apply for short-term medical practice licensure.
Colombia1996UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians.
Costa Rica2009UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians.
Dominican Republic2000UnlimitedUS license & board certification recognized.
Ecuador1990UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians. Reciprocity exists with most Latin American countries.
Eswatini2019Unlimited
Ethiopia2011UnlimitedMust renew the license every 5 years.
Finland1996UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians.
France2009LimitedOMM only. The French government does not recognize the full scope of practice osteopathic medicine.
The Gambia2011Unlimited
Germany2008UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians. Depends on need. Decisions made on individual basis.
Ghana2019Unlimited
Greece2009UnlimitedGreek citizenship required, unless, in rare instances, there exists a crucial need for certain types of specialist physicians. Further, a work permit must be obtained, a difficult task, and speaking Greek is an unwritten requirement. These are the same requirements as other foreign physicians.
Grenada2007UnlimitedUS license recognized.
Guyana1996UnlimitedCase-by case basis.
Honduras2009UnlimitedNational Autonomous University must accredit all foreign titles. After accreditation is completed, the applicant must seek registration with the Medical College of Honduras (MCH).
Hong Kong1998UnlimitedWritten examination. Personal interview. Training approval.
India2012UnlimitedUnlimited for short-term work.
Indonesia1992Unlimited and restrictedForeign physicians affiliated with a university project or a mission have unlimited practice rights. No private practice allowed.
Iran2009UnlimitedIranian citizens who have received both the DO degree from a US osteopathic school and are board certified in a clinical specialty. Osteopathic degrees from other countries are not accepted. The process of evaluation of the medical education and clinical training is under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Health and Medical Education (MoHME).
Israel2007UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians. Hebrew required.
Italy2009UnlimitedPhysicians are discouraged from seeking employment in Italy without firm contracts and work permits. If there is a US state law outlining reciprocity with Italy, a statement to this effect from the Italian Consulate will warrant better chances.
Jamaica1994Limited and restrictedDO physicians were permitted to supply some services while participating in a specific mission project.
Jordan2012Unlimited
Kenya2007Unlimited
Lebanon2004UnlimitedAOA letter required. Examination required.
Lesotho1990sUnlimitedApplicants must appear before the Medical, Dental and Pharmacy Council to answer some medical questions and present their credentials. The Council will also make a recommendation about where the applicant's skills would be most helpful in the country.
Liberia1990sUnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians.
Luxembourg1987UnlimitedThe practice of medicine in Luxembourg by a doctor who is not an EU national is very rare.
Malta2010UnlimitedAccepted on a case by case basis if training meets the minimum educational requirements for physicians in the EU (Article 24 of Directive 2005/36/EC). Examination required.
Malawi1991Unlimited
Mauritius2019Unlimited
Mexico2011Unlimited & RestrictedHealth Secretary Quijano of the Yucatán State of Mexico signed a Proclamation recognizing US-trained osteopathic physicians in that state; DO physicians can now obtain short-term & long-term licensure through the Health Secretary's office. All other Mexican states require work permits - only available in conjunction with the association of a short-term medical mission project.
Micronesia1993UnlimitedStatutes specifically include DOs
Namibia2019Unlimited
Nepal2008UnlimitedApproval by the Nepal Medical Council & a visa from the Immigration Department.
Netherlands2009UnlimitedSame requirements as other foreign physicians.
New Zealand2008UnlimitedHearing required. Case-by-case basis.
Nigeria2010UnlimitedUS licensure and completion of specialty training required.
Norway2009LimitedOMM only, but DOs may apply for recognition as medical doctors.[44]
Pakistan2011UnlimitedUS osteopathic medical schools meet the Medical and Dental Council's statutory regulations for international medical graduates. Scope is unlimited, but practice setting may be restricted
Panama2009UnlimitedPanamanian citizenship required.
Papua New Guinea2010UnlimitedWork permit required. Short-term or a long-term volunteer service license also available.
Peru2011UnlimitedProcess for licensure is the same as for other IMGs.
Poland2009UnlimitedExamination & Polish required.
Qatar2011UnlimitedMust possess a valid work visa, and pass written and oral examinations.
Rwanda2019Unlimited
Russia2006UnlimitedForeign physicians make arrangements to practice through Russian sponsors, such as hospitals or businesses.
Saint Lucia2000UnlimitedUS credentials recognized.
Saudi Arabia2009UnlimitedForeign physician must be recruited by a government agency, a corporation or a private health care entity, such as a hospital.
Seychelles2019Unlimited
Sierra Leone1993UnlimitedNotarized US credentials recognized.
South Africa2019UnlimitedU.S. degree recognized. The AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians.
South Sudan2019Unlimited
Sweden2005UnlimitedUS license recognized.
Taiwan2008UnlimitedThe ROC government recognizes American DO degrees. Applicants must take Taiwan Examination Yuan to obtain Taiwanese license.
Tanzania1985UnlimitedUS license and GME recognized. Temporary work permits are available.
Uganda2008Unlimited
United Arab Emirates2009UnlimitedExamination required.
United Kingdom2005UnlimitedUS-trained DO physicians are eligible for full medical practice rights. Applicants must pass the PLAB examination and work for one year in the National Health Service. Following that year, the applicants will be able to apply for a license to practice privately. For GMC registration as a specialist, postgraduate training will need to be separately recognized by the Postgraduate Medical Education and Training Board (PMETB). GOsC registration is also required.
Venezuela2007UnlimitedRecognized status under the law of the practice of medicine.
Vietnam1995UnlimitedForeign physicians can fill vacancies in hospitals that are in need of certain specialists.
Zambia2009UnlimitedUS licensure required.
Zimbabwe2019UnlimitedThe AMCOA recognition of American trained DOs gave full medical and surgical practicing rights to the professionals. Same requirements as foreign physicians.


Not sure how accurate this is but to each their own :shrug:
 
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