What book is good for studying RISE?

[TJMAXX]

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😛😕 I am a 1st year path resident,wanted to hear your advice. Thanks for your help.😍

 

[KeratinPearls]

😛😕 I am a 1st year path resident,wanted to hear your advice. Thanks for your help.😍

I would think for AP...just 1) learn from your cases, 2) study from question books (leftkowich, Sternberg, Rosai), 3) maybe ask senior residents for the topics which were asked previous RISE exams (topics are usually sent out to residents when they get their scores) and study those thoroughly.

For CP, learn from your rotations, read clinical compendium and do questions from the companion. Old RISE questions and #3 above.

I'd also like to hear what other ppl have to say.

Good luck.

 

[Parts Unknown]

Unless you are in a program that uses the RISE for purposes of advancement, don't bother studying. It's a waste of time. Your program will be much more impressed by an increase in your score over the years, so go ahead and shank it now.

After four years of taking the RISE I have no idea what it was meant to accomplish. My scores in each section would wildly fluctuate from year to year, from sub-PGY1 to super-PGY4 (although I always killed forensics, for some reason). My average did steadily increase, which was nice, I suppose. Perhaps the esoterica prepared me for that wonderful feeling of taking the boards.

My program was reasonably strict about making us all take it at a certain time in a neutral testing facility on campus. From what I understand, other programs let people take it at home, and I have heard many tales of open-book and group-test taking abuses that may skew the averages.

In summary, I would just briefly review Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, and try not to take it too horribly hungover.

 

[Patho2009]

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[Gene_]

Do not study anything prior to taking it the first time. This will give you an assessment of where your weaknesses/strengths are relative to your colleagues. I used the scores to identify the areas I needed to improve on in the following year.

 

[KCShaw]

I agree that I wouldn't go crazy about it, especially 1st year, for pretty much all the reasons already stated. The RISE is mostly like the old questions. The better question is what people think is good for studying for the boards -- if you do that, you'll be OK with the RISE.

The answer to -that- is to study regularly and early, focusing primarily on what you're doing in your rotations at that time (like you never heard that before..). Sometime between 2nd-3rd year (out of 4) I'd start going back and looking at things you're not as groovy with. For AP, any of the good 2-volume surg path books is what, I think, you should spend a lot of time with early. I also got some good use out of the "Differential Diagnosis" book, because it's useful in helping mentally categorize and narrow your options. I'd say a separate cytology book is useful too, when you get to that point; I found DeMay's smaller book useful. For CP I think it's more of a mixed bag; Henry's has a lot of info on all things CP, but many of the sections are not a good read. And don't neglect Robbins! I had some attendings at one institution who scoffed that no path resident should BE a path resident unless they already knew Robbins, so don't bother reading it, it's too simple. At another institution I had attendings who used it as their 1st reference for everything. Either way, use it, read it, know it.

Ultimately the best book(s) are the ones you'll actually read and remember something from. Don't get caught up in getting the biggest book from the most famous author -- those can be good for reference, but not always good to read and remember useful pearls from.

For final year review, I thought Lefkowitch's AP Review book was pretty good, and for CP the "old" Mais' clinical compendium I thought was pretty good (the newer one just didn't read very well for me). One of the review courses is probably worthwhile to do (Osler, ASCP, AFIP, etc.). I also think it's useful to look over board-review type questions just to mentally get in the groove, though not so much to "study" per se.

 

[pathstudent]

All of the following would be good.

1) the big demay
2) all of the fasicles
3) a forensic textbook
4) the technical manual
5) Elmer konemen's micro book
6) henry's chemistry chapter
7) ioachim's lymph node book
8) foucar's bone marrow book
9) a large molecular book

all of those would be good to read. But i would only read about my cases.

 

[sohsie]

1) DONT STUDY FOR THE RISE. It is a waste of time. No one cares what you score unless you are in a bad residency program.
2) DONT read massive books like Henry, Koneman, etc. It is a waste of time. The amount you will gain will be diminished by how often you fall asleep trying to read them.
3) I am not in the "You must read Robbins" camp. Its a good book, but there is a lot of basic science that you don't really need, and it focuses a lot on clinical disease in areas that aren't really surgical pathology dependent. (I only read parts of it)
4) If you want reading material, I would suggest Mais Clinical Compendium, Jones Clinical Pearls (Yes, its old, but it does give you good CP in a readable format).
5) For AP, you can read one of the 2 volume surg path texts (Sternberg, Rosai, etc.) Dont worry about knowing/remembering everything in there. The point is to get comfortable with it so that when you do study for the boards, the material will be that much more familiar.
5) Cytology - Baby DeMay

Hope this helps.

 

[HbyHA]

please don't waste your time studying for this exam, especially during your first year. a better use of your time would be reading about cases that you've had during the year, if you have the time. if you are too exhausted to study during your first month of surg path (or whatever else is a tough month at your program), don't worry about it. your job during your first few months of residency is just to figure out how the system works and survive it.

the test itself is bizarre with bad questions and images (prep for the boards, maybe?). be happy as long as you're doing better than the year before.

 

[icpshootyz]

Please don't study for the RISE. It is not a test that you should cram for just to get a good score. Just do your work and study for your daily cases and you should do fine on the RISE. If you have glaring deficits it is more a poor reflection of your program than you.

 

[green mantis]

I agree w/ the others about not studying for the RISE, especially as a 1st year. I think it's perfectly fine to bomb the exam the 1st time around since I'm sure there's plenty of areas that you haven't rotated through. The important part is that you're improving each year.

Your program should have copies of old exams from the 1990's to early 2000's. It's good to look through them since many questions tend to be repeated. Would you feel silly if you missed a question that's shown up several times before?


----- Antony

 

[GeoLeoX]

Would you feel silly if you missed a question that's shown up several times before?

What's the highest level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

 

[smellycat]

What's the highest level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

I think I missed that question every year except 4th year. I never bothered to look up the right answer.

 

[Gene_]

What's the highest level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

Self-actualization

And of course I only know this because it is asked about every single year.

 

[Parts Unknown]

What's the highest level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs?

Per Wikipedia (that bastion of infalliblity), near the end of his life Maslow proposed a level higher than self-actualization: self-transcendence.

Perhaps someone needs to check the reference ("Theory Z" The Farther Reaches of Human Nature, NY: Viking, 1972) and get the ASCP on the horn.

 

[aaliyahhaughton]

😛😕 I am a 1st year path resident,wanted to hear your advice. Thanks for your help.😍

Ask a professor. 🙂